George Clooney and the laydeeeez

Katiedot wrote:IMO she's no better or worse than anyone else he's dated in the past 10 years. They've all been self-serving gold-diggers with a dubious past.

You'd have to go right back to Celine to find a girlfriend who we'd generally all agree was acceptable. That was more than 10 years ago.

It's no coincidence that he ends up with this type of woman: he's choosing to be with them. He's dated two porn stars, a stripper, a self-professed go-go dancer and most of the women he's been seen with seem to have been scraped from the bottom of a Vegas bar at closing time. And not a nice bar.

Gosh! WHY??? Even I wondered if George ever had any girlfriend who is remotely acceptable.... What do you think his story is? How can someone be so blatantly against any form of commitment?

He considers his work more important he has actually said it. He doesn't want to put any real effort into a real relationship because he seems to think he can't work the way he does if he has a girlfriend to worry about. So he picks girls who come and go at his whim and don't really ask for anything, except some press and a walk down the red carpet. Eli is exactly like the others hasn't been around for awhile then he has a break and she is around again. Then he will go off to work and she will disappear although I do believe her time in up!

Still, it is such a cliche...going for cocktail waitresses and actresses who are popular for bare-all! I guess celebrity relationships are much more complicated. A regular 49 yr old who has commitment issues can still find decent girls to hang out with...no strings attached and all that!

But. then the public, press, etc., won't have anything to "talk" about. How boring would it be to the tabloids (and the blogs) if he dated a school teacher or bank teller or secretary. Now, all you school teachers and bank tellers and secretaries, don't be yelling at me!!!! I don't like his choices, but they are HIS choices. He knows that his name is going to stay in the gossip sites if he is associated with, lets say, less than stellar companions. He once said that in a few years nobody is going to remember who he is (I'm paraphrasing since I can't remember his exact quote - something about being on Hollywood Squares). So this keeps him in the gossip sites. Again, I don't like these choices, but for whatever reason, he has made those choices. We can take it, or we can leave it. I personally wish that he would just use his talent and his projects as his "date". Now, to me, that's a HUGE selling point!

I agree with you Mel, but the only thing is, teachers, bank tellers or secretaries or whatever are less likely to agree to the casual relationships that he seems to be looking for.

Starlets, famelovers and golddiggers on the other hand are perfectly happy with a 'boyfriend' who can't be bothered to make an effort with them and likes long periods with them not around. Maybe even agree to share him with other women, who knows?

I agree with Dex that he decided a long time ago that he wasn't willing to put in the energy required to run a meaningful relationship, preferring instead to focus on himself and his career.

Selfish? Yes, but who said he was perfect?

He lives his life in a way that suits him and it seems no one is hurt.

Very well-said Melbert and Katie. Whatever is said about him he says "but don't let it get in the way of a good story." Nuff said.

Absolutely Katie! He definitely doesn't want anyone smarter than him around who could figure out his ways!!! His current choices are most happy when his wallet is open!

Actually, one caveat to the 'no one gets hurt' bit: fans who believe that he is the noble romantic hero of their dreamy love.

We can all see what happens to fans who think he is the perfect man, because let's face it, who's idea of a perfect man includes someone who thinks hanging out with strippers and dating porn stars is, like, really cooool, man? Seriously?

Putting up with his less than selective taste in women is all part and parcel of being a George Clooney fan. You either deal with the ho's or you move on and find someone else to follow.

As I've stated here in the house rules and many times elsewhere, while I don't especially like them, I don't particularly have a problem with these women and the work they do and I think they're as entitled to date someone like George Clooney as any other woman.

That's my solution to being a George fan. How are you all coping?

I'm coping fine Katie. His girlfriends make for interesting reading. I hope his next girlfriend is just as colorful.

If he was perfect, wouldn't that be boring?

I have to admit, i don't give a damn about his dating life. He's an adult and can do whatever he wants with his life. I didn't know about his sluttiness until I joined this site. I was a bit surprised by it but that's the life he's chosen so who I am to judge. He seems to have a good heart with charities and doesn't seem to be a dick to his fans or the general public. I like his films and he's hot to look at. Good enough for me.

Although I will say that there's absolutely nothing wrong with not getting married and not having kids. I got married later in life and I'm not having kids. I don't think I'm messed up in the head. Well, not too bad anyway.... Marriage and children aren't for everyone but it seems the paps and public will always be obsessed by why George doesn't want either.

Katiedot wrote:

Putting up with his less than selective taste in women is all part and parcel of being a George Clooney fan. You either deal with the ho's or you move on and find someone else to follow.

So true Katiedot Like u guys say, I don't have a problem with who George dates, it's his personal business, blah, blah...I get that. These unrealistic relationships he's in just makes him a little less real for me That is the only problem! On the other hand, if he were married and had kids or got into a serious relationship...who knows, maybe I wouldn't have found him follow-worthy!

I still like George, regardless of who he dates. As time goes on, I have learned to accept his choices (not like) but they are interesting. If he is selfish in not wanting to put time and effort into a relationship, then at least he recognizes this and it probably has a lot to do with his choice of women. He will have plenty of choices as I am sure there will be a neverending supply of women who would love to be 'the girlfriend of'. Overall, I just like to see him happy.

In case you're wondering what happened, I made this a new topic. Thought it was interesting enough in its own right and not really part of the whole betty/furbaby conversation any more.

You totally freaked me out Katie!! I thought it was brand new and as I was reading, I thought "I've read this before", then I saw my own post and WOW!! I did read it before. Thank you for waking me up!

melbert wrote:You totally freaked me out Katie!! I thought it was brand new and as I was reading, I thought "I've read this before", then I saw my own post and WOW!! I did read it before. Thank you for waking me up!

haha! I did the same thing! I thought 'when did I post in this thread??'. Doh!

Sorry about that!!

just keeping us on our toes!!!

Dexterdidit wrote:Eli is exactly like the others .......

Though, IMHO, he's realizing that she isn't. Just guessing, but from reading old gossip articles about her, she seems like the type to put demands on him.

Nah, George holds the power in all these relationships. That's the point of having these kind of relationships. The woman is at his beck and call.

I dealt with Georges sluttiness ages ago. He isn't a perfect man and I like that about him. His choices in women are part of the package, I don't like them and I wish at times he could choose better. But it is his life I'm just watching it. One thing I do like is his honesty he knows he can't hold down a real relationship at he is honest about it. I think eli has become harder to handle then some of the others but she is just like them in the end. When George wants her around she shows up then disappears for weeks on end just like the others. When George wants it over he will do something about it and Eli will run out of luck not that I think for a second this one will go away quietly something I believe George has worked out. It would be boring if he went out with someone and it was serious and she was lovely what would we talk about? Although there will always be those who won't like who he dates no matter how good or nice she is.

I really don't care who George dates. It's his life. I think he treats the woman he dates well and I'm sure they know what to expect out of the relationship. If they start to want more then he's willing to give then he moves on. Again I wouldn't think that would be a huge surprise to the women he dates. I'm not a starry-eyed fan by any means but I think he is still a good person who cares about people. I admire his dedication to his craft and for his humanitarian efforts.

I mostly agree with everyone, but I also think it might be not so boring if he dated a woman of substance, who was also gorgeous, and they had funny red carpet "schtick" and she was occasionally quoted saying witty things too.

GTC is funny, gorgeous, and witty -- we don't think he's boring. So maybe pairing him up with someone a little more like him would double the fun??

Or would it be boring just because he would be "off the market" for real?

I agree piglove, I'd like to see him with a woman of more substance, she could be gorgeous, but it be great if everyone couldn't see her naked on the internet.

Just out of interest, what's so bad about having naked pictures on the internet? Does that make you any less "suitable" to have a boyfriend? Fall in love? Date someone like George Clooney?

There's thousands of women in the US alone who make money that way. Are they all to be damned to eternal singledom because they're somehow not fit to be with a good man?

Katie, on the contrary, if you have a good body I think it would enhance your chances for a man. Just had to put in my two cents.

Nothing wrong with posing nude to make a living, and yes any woman is deserving of a good mate. It would just be a nice change if he would date someone that doesn't have her twat all over the internet.

Good point, Katiedot, and it definitely applies to someone like Krista or Lisa, who use nudity to sell a product (like porn or a calendar). We should be able to separate their professional "exploitation" from their personal lives.

However, some of the pics I've seen of Sarah L. seem at best like someone is exploiting her drunkenness and immaturity, at worst like someone is actually selling her body. More than any of his other main ladeez, she was the closest to being an escort (maybe she actually was, as a "Nine Girl" or whatever). And her photos reek of it. We can argue over the pros and cons of the sex industry, if you like, but I found those images depressing and sordid (I get a yeast infection just looking at the scooter one). Here are some examples to brighten your day:

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Ha! Hot Cross Buns anyone

I wonder what it must be like for her- going from being GC's girlfriend to whatever she is doing now. Sort of like getting the bends. I had read that she had a rough life. That time must have been like living a fairytale.

so ladyz i don't agree the woman can make living from being nude only "we can catch celebs being on beach wearing swimsuits or bikini but to make all ur career being naked all time, i call that something else" but realy who do u think is more prettier sarah or elisabetta ?the only diffrence i notice that sarah was taller what about u!

lolo, I think both are pretty but in different ways. Now I don't own a team-betty tee, but I believe she is a better match for George than Sarah was.

All of us who've been George fans for a long time will notice one trend: serious revisionism about the old girlfriend when the new one comes along.

You'll forever read that the one before "looked so happy together" or "seemed so sweet" or whatever from the new fans who weren't following closely.

The previous girlfriend is always somewhat acceptable while the current one is usually cast as worse than the devil.

Then he moves on to a new girlfriend, the fans move on, he gets a new girlfriend, new fans flock to say how the old girfriend seemed nice but the new one is worse than the devil.

How can this be?

Lisa Snowdon was ripped apart by fans (myself included, I didn't know any better then) for being the vacuous, pointless, gold digging famewhore that she was, and he looked miserable with her. Then it was Krista's turn, and my, weren't we vicious towards this ex-porn star who he wouldn't even be seen in public with. Then Lisa again (more miserable), then Krista again (still no public appearances). Finally Sarah Larson who was a vacuous, pointless, gold digging ex-escort girl who he looked miserable with. Now we have Betty,who's a vacuous, pointless, money grubbing, gold digging, famewhore who makes him miserable.

Does anyone see a pattern here?

None of these women are any better or worse than the other. None of them make him any more happy or miserable than the last. They're all of the same type; that type is George Clooney's type and I guarantee the next one will be identical.

You can find pictures of him looking happy with all of his girlfriends (Betty included) and you can find plenty where he doesn't. My conclusion is that he probably doesn't like PDAs and isn't comfortable in public situations.

Has there every been a "tell all" from one of Clooney's ex-girlfriends? If not, I'm wondering why? You'd think that ANY high-profile celebrity would be vulnerable to someone who decided to "kiss and tell." How has George kept this from happening? Does he perhaps make these women sign a confidentiality agreement? I can't believe at least one of these ex-girlfriends hasn't tried to make money selling her story about her time with Clooney. It appears to the casual observer that his career is his focus, and he doesn't want to be bothered by a serious relationship, so he dials rent-a-chick or whatever. The fact that his current girlfriend has been recently tied to a high-class club (since closed for prostitution) is a pretty good indication of what's going on here. I wonder if George has the same approach as Cary Grant -- who was very macho, dated beautiful women, but was at the very least a very closeted bisexual. Any thoughts on this?

but with all ely do sarah was working in las vegas i think both are the same no one is better than the other

Katiedot wrote:

Does anyone see a pattern here?

None of these women are any better or worse than the other. None of them make him any more happy or miserable than the last. They're all of the same type; that type is George Clooney's type and I guarantee the next one will be identical.

You can find pictures of him looking happy with all of his girlfriends (Betty included) and you can find plenty where he doesn't. My conclusion is that he probably doesn't like PDAs and isn't comfortable in public situations.

So true and I am guilty as charged!

LOL, Wash, rinse, repeat!
I've only been following since Eli's time, so.....
Those pics of Sarah do everything BUT brighten my day - getting out the Lysol
As far as the nudity goes....I think it must be very liberating to be such an exhibitionist, and not care about the critics. But to me, it reeks of desperation - you aren't getting enough attention the way you are, or with the things you're already doing, so you put it all out there (or on a scooter....ewww) lot's of stars do it, or wannabe stars. But imo, it says alot more. Means you have no boundaries. And I think this scares off guys from wanting a real relationship with girls like this (of course, initially, I'm sure it's a rush for a guy to be with a girl that has no boundaries), because if you have no boundaries, how can you fully trust someone?

But it also means IMO that they're easy and have no respect for themselves. Even if you do have a good body, why put all your goods on sale and then have no takers, better set out a taster on your stall, and save the main event for your man! Men like the chase of wondering what you have rather than "seen it"!!

Yeah, but you're talking about regular men who are in the market for a serious relationship with a partner who's an equal. That's not George Clooney IMO.

When you think about millionaires who want to put all their energies into their work and not have to make an effort at all with his bed partner but who is looking for someone unhibited and open to kinky sex, then the Sarah Larsons et al are exactly what you go for.

midtod wrote:Has there every been a "tell all" from one of Clooney's ex-girlfriends?

Not really. The most recent kiss'n'tell was from a stripper called Sarah Talley (you'll find that in the 'ghosts of girlfriends past' section in this forum.

There was a hilarious nokiss'n'tell from a woman who nearly lost her virginity to him about 20 years ago which reflects very well on him. There were a few comments from porn star Ginger Lynn who dated him before Charlie Sheen. And then there was the blind item from the woman in London about four yeats ago which was written in such a way that you were meant to think it was George, but who knows if it really was him or even if she was telling the truth.

I think that's it.

As to the why there aren't many revelations, we think he probably makes them sign NDA (non disclosure agreements) but that's speculation, not verified fact. Apparently it's common in Hollywood to do so.

My personal opinion is that he treats them well so they're generally well disposed towards him and less willing to go to the press and talk.

@ Katie...AMEN on what you said about the previous girlfriends...all too true and we're all guilty at one time or another, truth be told.

@ midtod... "It appears to the casual observer that his career is his focus, and he doesn't want to be bothered by a serious relationship, so he dials rent-a-chick or whatever"

Yes by George, I think you've got it! LOL All the other conspiracy theories that he's doing this because he's being "forced" to by the "powers that be behind the curtains" is a load of hooey. This fits HIS work schedule and life style and why should he apologize to anyone for it? Seriously, besides delivering entertaining films, what does he actually owe anyone when they buy their tickets and put their butts in theater seats?

I know I've heard all the arguments for how this tarnishes his humanitarian blah, blah, blah, but ask yourself this; do the people in Darfur, South Sudan or anywhere else that he's lent his "celebrity brand" to get attention focused on their plight give a tinker's damn about who he beds? I think they care more about the help that's on the way because of his efforts but I guess I could be wrong.

@Lighter: all I know is that George owes me a HUGE apology for that mess called Leatherheads. Seriously.

But back to the women. George dates this type consistently and IMO it's not by accident. He's been around the block so many times, he probably built the block in the first place so he's no innocent who's fooled by the wicked wiles of the loose woman. If anything, he's in search of the loose woman with wiles wicked and otherwise.

It doesn't take a genius to figure these women out; when I read that Sarah Larson was a Vegas cocktail waitress I knew it would only be a matter of time before the dodgy pictures came out, and sure enough - thanks to her frenemies - those pics found light of day. I doubt it came as a surprise to George and I think we're all somewhat puzzled that those pics were the only ones. I was expecting more, frankly.

I don't like these kind of women and I don't particularly respect what they do. That doesn't mean I have the right to disrespect them either. As I wrote in my earlier post, I wrote horribly mean things about Lisa Snowdon. Then came Krista and I saw the real meaning of hatred and I began to question why anyone would post such horrible things about a complete stranger which of course meant I had to question my own meanness towards Lisa. I didn't like the answers I came up with and ever since then I try to be fair.

As to whether George will ever pick a girlfriend less, um, controversial among his fans, I think it's unlikely. It's just not what he's looking for. For over a decade he's been consistent in his tastes and I just don't think that's likely to change.

Re: George Clooney and the laydeeeez
by Katiedot Today at 1:04 pm
-@Lighter: all I know is that George owes me a HUGE apology for that mess called Leatherheads. Seriously.

Hahaha see Katie that's where we differ! I thought Leatherheads was funny; maybe I wasn't expecting more or maybe I've got the same kind of sense of humor as George, don't know which is true.

When you think about millionaires who want to put all their energies into their work and not have to make an effort at all with his bed partner but who is looking for someone unhibited and open to kinky sex, then the Sarah Larsons et al are exactly what you go for.

But in the end, do these millonaires really trust these types of women!

I really think these relationships exist because there is no expectation of anything serious developing. It's easy, the ladies are willing partners, perhaps the men feel macho about thinking they are into all things erotic, and the boundaries are established early on. G has often said his work comes first. It seems this type of set-up works for him. For me his sexual preferences do not affect my feelings for his professional work. I respect those people who think his moral code is wanting, but I wonder about holding entertainers to a higher moral code than others.

but I wonder about holding entertainers to a higher moral code than others.

If he was JUST an entertainer, than no.

But he is just an entertainer. I agree with Lighter that his humanitarian efforts are successful and that who he sleeps with has no impact on that, rightly so.

He's not a publicly elected official and like all private individuals he an get involved in humanitarian crises but is also free to do what he wants in bed with whoever he wants.

I disagree completely that someone who does good in one area of his life has to be spotlessly perfect in another. To me that just shows a lack of understanding about human nature.

I don't follow the argument that somehow hanging out with women who may or may not have done sex work disqualifies him for helping women who've been raped in Darfur. The one has nothing to do with the other. That's like saying bank tellers and strippers have the same profession because both handle cash.

The only people who I do expect to be morally superior are those who claim they're morally superior, which is mostly just people working for various religious entities.

That definitely excludes George; he doesn't claim to lead a virtuous life - in fact, he claims the very opposite (the "too many women, too many drugs" quotation comes to mind). That doesn't make him any less of an expert on Darfur and South Sudan, or less passionate about it. It certainly doesn't make him any less capable or suitable of being an advocate for the people who he can help and I think it would be crazy to suggest that he stop doing good simply because of who he sleeps with.

Imagine saying to the Haitians, or the victims of the tsunami or the recipients of any of the many charities he's supported in his career that they have to give the money back because the man who helped raise this money slept around.

sisieq wrote:But in the end, do these millonaires really trust these types of women!

Yes and no.

Yes because the women's loyalty has been bought by the agreement (spoken, unspoken or written down in a contract, however it's communicated) that she's the sex toy who hangs on his arm when it suits him and leaves him in peace when he needs peace in exchange for which she gets to live the life of a leisured, pampered wife with access to his houses, cars, credit card etc etc etc.

No because of course the women aren't any more in love with the men than the men are in love with the women. The women are just better at pretending they are because this is what their job is.

Plus, the men aren't looking for a long term relationship so what does trust have to do with anything?

Very business like attitude to meet your needs in life (pretty woman) the romantic in me would want the whole package, which is love and everything that comes with it.That's probably why I'm always so critical of his GF's is I want the same for him, the good,the bad, and the ugly.Which doesn't necessarily mean that's what he wants.