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Post by cindigirl Sun 12 Aug 2012, 21:44

Thanks EEOsandy for not making me seem like some sort of a biatch because of my fashion statement remark. They say you should wear sunglasses all the time because there's always some sort of UV rays even on a cloudy day. I wear a lightly shaded pair every time I go out but I still don't understand her dark shades. IMO someone who wears dark glasses is usually trying to hide something. Just sayin'.
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Post by it's me Sun 12 Aug 2012, 21:51

she was attempting to make some sort of statement.


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Post by lucy Mon 13 Aug 2012, 00:45

I can understand wearing dark shades to avoid eye contact, which doesn't make much sense when you spend so many years of your life trying to be famous.
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Post by Katiedot Mon 13 Aug 2012, 07:21

barla wrote: The problem is to understand how an actor of importance and experience such as George, after the break up with Canalis, has completely lost his head (from a media point of view), literally hiring an escort (apparently, among other things, not particularly beautiful, nor elegant, we can not know if intelligent ... what does she speak about if not diets?) to support a role absolutely false, and continue to carry it forward until the boredom.
You see, that's the thing: Stacy is not different from the previous girlfriends even though fans new to the forum think she is. Elisabetta Canalis was widely believed to be an escort who was hired by George and fans even found references to Sarah Larson on the Las Vegas escort agency site (even though there was no proof that the girl was ever the same Sarah Larson George was dating, it didn't stop fans from claiming this was just a contract relationship).

So no, as far as I can tell, there's nothing new in any of this. The only conclusion I can come to is that either all of George's girlfriends have been escorts or none of them are.

lucy wrote:Katie I want to love all new photo's with George, but I'm having a hard time deciding which are real and which are posed! Most are in the opinion that all are posed? So it,s hard for me to believe in GTC anymore.
They're not posed, and they're not not posed if that makes sense. George can't stop the paparazzi from taking pictures. His only option if he doesn't want to be photographed is to hide away inside his house and not enjoy his life, or go out in public and accept he'll be photographed. What would you have him do?

watching wrote: She never wore outfots like this before yet all of a sudden, she starts when she just happens to be in Como with the awaiting press every time she steps off the grounds of the villa. Not in LA, NY or Cabo. She seems to get all dolled up - perfect hair, perfect makeup - and in a dressy outfit to go out and about whilst everyone else is in t shirts and shorts.
So a person is never ever ever in their entire lives allowed to change their style or experiment with a new look? They can never decide that their clothes should reflect who they are now in their life and must instead always be stuck wearing the same things they wore when they were in their 20s? Is it really so wrong to want to change your style sometimes and try out new looks?

Have we already forgotten the harsh criticism Elisabetta got on this forum for her casual, almost sloppy, dress sense and how she was supposedly embarrassing George by dressing like a slob most of the time?

I'd guess Stacy's been given the (very good) advice that in Europe (or at least mainland Europe) people tend to dress up more. Now I'm not saying every single European always dresses up at all times, but in general a number of people like to make more of an effort, especially in the evening.

We can also see George is dressed up in many of these shots. Mr jeans-and-t-shirt or even shorts-and-t-shirt in these pictures is in long trousers and a button shirt which for him is smart.

Has she overdone it sometimes? I think so, but that's hardly a crime to get so passionate about.

Missa wrote: I realize there are also some people who find something negative to say about every single breath she takes, and I don't agree with them either. But just as she occasionally does something right, or worth praising (tweeting about charities is nice), can't we agree that she sometimes makes missteps as well?
Yes and the key word in that sentence is SOMETIMES. Not everything she says, does, wears on every single occasion.

Sometimes she gets it wrong, as we all do in life. She's not perfect although for some reason the people who don't like her irrationally expect her to be perfect in all things and at all times and then act as though it's a major disaster when she inevitably gets it wrong.
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Post by watching Mon 13 Aug 2012, 12:07

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Post by lucy Mon 13 Aug 2012, 12:42

Katie, I would have him live his life to the fullest, if he stayed inside, I'd miss out on COH, I don't come here for the games.
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Post by barla Mon 13 Aug 2012, 13:33

You see, that's the thing: Stacy is not different from the previous girlfriends even though fans new to the forum think she is. Elisabetta Canalis was widely believed to be an escort who was hired by George and fans even found references to Sarah Larson on the Las Vegas escort agency site (even though there was no proof that the girl was ever the same Sarah Larson George was dating, it didn't stop fans from claiming this was just a contract relationship).
So no, as far as I can tell, there's nothing new in any of this. The only conclusion I can come to is that either all of George's girlfriends have been escorts or none of them are.

some thoughts , Katie:
I do not think is quite correct what you said, or do you think Balitran, Snowdon, Allen has been hired ... from what, from the bar where they worked,from the advertising or film set where they meet? Certainly not. either EC (I know very little about SL), and this I can tell you as sure: she wasn't hired. Sure, known by mutual friends .. on request, but not put under contract, almost at the beginning. Perhaps it is contracted the breakup, to preclude such things do not like (and even this are uncertain).
Sk is the first escort clearly declared (so she called on interviews with magazines), the first alleged GF with whom there wasn't one, and I repeat, only one (something deliberately done by GC) PDA public (nor so less private). All the journalists and gossip workers, and from the beginning, they knew that this was just a mere speculation and advertising. Programmed wrong (George did not win an Oscar) and maybe, if Obama will not elected, ended even worse ...
There are lots of photos and journalists / workers in the field of show-bussiness, here and in the U.S., who judge and know that this is a fake ralationship. (At least until now). Certainly not comparable to most of the above (please do not let a psychotic misogynist to george ..)
Then there isn't "the all or none", because this is definitely the first time that George hires a partner from the beginning (he is getting old, the comparison with the new young upwardly actors does not hold up ...) and he's the first who seems to know it well and prove it every time ...

They're not posed, and they're not not posed if that makes sense. George can't stop the paparazzi from taking pictures. His only option if he doesn't want to be photographed is to hide away inside his house and not enjoy his life, or go out in public and accept he'll be photographed. What would you have him do?

C'mon Katie, as you call the ridiculous procession Tatum-Davies/George parents? The bike ride in the back garden or the studio prepared dinner Loud hailer in the famous Bellagio with the embarrassed parents of George (then escaped in the boat, almost without food ...)? Even my friend witnessed of the entire event, completely unrelated to any passion for george, was outraged and shocked ... affraid ?
From memory I do not remember so many events of this kind, attributable to the previous gf (including the canalis) ..... why have not been done before? Perhaps because now there is a contract to commit?
Of course, in this way GC is free, inside his home, to do whatever he wants .... even to send SK to sleep in the dependence of the guests ...... super cool super cool

Have we already forgotten the harsh criticism Elisabetta got on this forum for her casual, almost sloppy, dress sense and how she was supposedly embarrassing George by dressing like a slob most of the time?

It's true ... I wonder why George seemed to like it ... especially when Eli wore Cavalli / Versace/Armani on important occasions ..... oh yeah, she did not have all times, to sponsor earrings, handbags, pants, shirts etc .... ... (nothing wrong, SK is right to make money as possible from this relationship, now ...)

I'd guess Stacy's been given the (very good) advice that in Europe (or at least mainland Europe) people tend to dress up more. Now I'm not saying every single European always dresses up at all times, but in general a number of people like to make more of an effort, especially in the evening.

In Europe, generally, people tend to dress appropriately to what they are doing, and where they live ... in short dress, long dress .... does not matter, but, basically, comfortable or elegant depending on the occasion ... Then in some countries, say, the perception of taste and elegance, is stronger .... (Coco Chanel would have slain the Stacy least a hundred times ....) ... let's say that her body does not help (not enough to be tall with long legs to be attractive and wear clothes with elegance ... with that huge ass and bones, and those shoulders longshoreman ... no breasts... well ... those beautiful are made different. )

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Post by lucy Mon 13 Aug 2012, 14:05

barla, Since SL(first GF for me) it was speculated about private escort, contract relationship, with no real proof. Same was said on blogs etc. about Eli and all the dates between SL and Eli. Don't know much about his past ex's before SL, but IMHO everyone speculates about the women in George's life, there is a consistent pattern over the years. Things may change a little with GF's but not much. I personally got all caught up in the SL thing, than again with Eli, but no more, they may not be what I think is right for George but it's not my life, my choice to make. They are just women(lucky????) is the price they pay for what is said about them worth the time they get with George? Wish SL, or Eli would answer that question.
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Post by barla Mon 13 Aug 2012, 14:45

lucy wrote:barla, Since SL(first GF for me) it was speculated about private escort, contract relationship, with no real proof. Same was said on blogs etc. about Eli and all the dates between SL and Eli. Don't know much about his past ex's before SL, but IMHO everyone speculates about the women in George's life, there is a consistent pattern over the years. Things may change a little with GF's but not much. I personally got all caught up in the SL thing, than again with Eli, but no more, they may not be what I think is right for George but it's not my life, my choice to make. They are just women(lucky????) is the price they pay for what is said about them worth the time they get with George? Wish SL, or Eli would answer that question.

Lucy all this speculation comes from the alleged bisexuality / homosexuality of george, now going on for a couple of years, re-emerge in some occasions, even publicizing the type of people who attended
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.... even friends (pitt did not seem too much joking at the time of the famous remark ....) .....
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Post by Katiedot Mon 13 Aug 2012, 15:22

barla wrote: I do not think is quite correct what you said, or do you think Balitran, Snowdon, Allen has been hired ...
To make it clear, I don't think ANY of his ex girlfriends were hired for PR contract purposes. None of them, including Larson, Canalis or Keibler.

barla wrote:Certainly not. either EC (I know very little about SL), and this I can tell you as sure: she wasn't hired.
Nice to hear confirmation of that, but the fact remains that a large number of fans at the time believed - continue to believe - that she was hired. That's a fact. That it may have been untrue is irrelevant; it's what many people believed.

barla wrote:Sk is the first escort clearly declared (so she called on interviews with magazines), the first alleged GF with whom there wasn't one, and I repeat, only one (something deliberately done by GC) PDA public (nor so less private).
Not true. If you'd been around at the time you would have read the exact same accusations about Sarah Larson and Elisabetta Canalis.

All those so-called PDA pictures of George and Elisabetta were called fake, cold and staged by fans commenting at the time. Just as the pictures of George and Stacy are called the same now.

barla wrote:Then there isn't "the all or none", because this is definitely the first time that George hires a partner from the beginning
"Definitely"? Yoiu have nothing other than gossip and speculation to go on, so forget any kind of 'definite' in this. it's no more 'definite' than it was with Canalis or Larson.

barla wrote:C'mon Katie, as you call the ridiculous procession Tatum-Davies/George parents? The bike ride in the back garden or the studio prepared dinner
He's surrounded by the paparazzi so he has no choice: he either hides inside his house or he has to be photographed in public. What would you have him do in this siutation?

barla wrote: From memory I do not remember so many events of this kind, attributable to the previous gf (including the canalis) ..... why have not been done before?
Because you weren't watching his every move on a fan site the way you are now so you didn't see everything that happened and you missed a lot of the speculation.

barla wrote:... let's say that her body does not help (not enough to be tall with long legs to be attractive and wear clothes with elegance ... with that huge ass and bones, and those shoulders longshoreman ... no breasts... well ... those beautiful are made different.
Let's not say that. Firstly because it's incorrect* and secondly because she can't help her height, her long legs or her wide shoulders. That's the way she is. Should she hide herself away in shame because she doesn't meet your peculiar standards of beauty?

I'm not even sure why George Clooney's girlfriend has to be stunningly beautiful. Is he not allowed to date a plain looking woman?

*models are expected to be tall and slim with regular features, all of which Stacy has. Wide shoulders are preferred because the clothes hang off the model better. That's why so many jackets, coats and tops have shoulder pads in them, because the shape makes the garment look better on those of us who don't have broad shoulders.
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Post by cindigirl Mon 13 Aug 2012, 15:37

Katiedot wrote:I'm not even sure why George Clooney's girlfriend has to be stunningly beautiful. Is he not allowed to date a plain looking woman?

Katie, I think there is gossip that his gfs are "arranged" BECAUSE they are all beautiful and basically the same age. I know and appreciate the fact that he loves women, but he only loves women who look a certain way and he seems to be stuck on women in their very early thirties. My opinion still is that they are for press relations, easy to look at, arm candy, etc. Otherwise why doesn't he date someone closer to his age?
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Post by The next mrs clooney Mon 13 Aug 2012, 15:46

Sorry but I have never believed that any previous girlfriends were paid escorts before SK. The body language displayed with others was very different and he was more at ease. You could tell that he was attracted to these women. With Stacy he is too distant for any real connection.
The photo ops are obviously staged dont care what anyone says.

And by the way Stacy is not really a model. She is an actress (and I use that term loosely) as with many actresses and celebrities they do photoshoots, this does not make them models. She has no contract with an agency and she is not "the face" of anyone's campaigns. She is way to muscular to be a model.
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Post by fava Mon 13 Aug 2012, 15:46

I find it incomprehesible when folks say SK does not have a great body. She is toned and fit and her body looks great IMO. At times since dating George she has been too thin though. I am not a fan of hers and I actually think she has very little talent to give her a long term show biz career, but I can't see too many flaws in her body. Her height and her shoulders are not something in her control.

I believe the "paid escort" rumors always get traction on this site with folks who question his current choice of girlfriend. Among the general public, I would think those rumors predominate among people who think he is gay. Personally, although not a fan of his (seemingly) shallow choices of girlfriend, I would think much less of him if I found out for a fact that they were hired. I would have to question his charaacter on a lot of levels then. For example, if so much of his life is for "show", are the charitable interests a just to build his image and keep his name in the press?

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Post by fava Mon 13 Aug 2012, 16:01

One more point: if he dated a woman closer to his own age, I believe the comments would be even worse. Wrinkles, sagging? Posters would have a field day. Many men in a posiition of power and with money choose women that are a lot younger. Older women like me can say they are shallow, but it seems like the way of the world. Their egos like other men envying them. They feel entitled to physical perfection. They often don't come with baggage like kids. They may have few sexual inbiitions. They are probably pretty darn flexible too! (unlike me if you get my drift)

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Post by Katiedot Mon 13 Aug 2012, 16:06

The next mrs clooney wrote: The body language displayed with others was very different and he was more at ease.
Don't take my word for it: there are about fifteen 20-page threads about Elisabetta on this forum alone. Go back and read what the fans were actually saying then.

I can tell you this: the fans who were scrutinising every picture of George and Canalis (or George and Sarah for that matter) the same way we are now with George and Stacy were largely unable to identify any warmth, any sense of relationship between the two of them at all. What was remarkable to many posters was how long George and Elisabetta lasted given how unhappy they looked throughout their relationship. Their breakup was expected on a monthly basis. Almost all of their pictures together were described as George looking bored or embarrassed or angry or ignoring her altogether.

I'm NOT saying the fans were right in their assessment by the way. I'm only saying that was the prevailing feeling at the time.

@Barla: the gay rumours about George really picked up pace at the time he was dating Sarah Larson. She was the first girlfriend widely considered to be a contract girlfriend thus giving fuel to those rumours. Partly because George has been unable to look consistently happy with any woman on his arm since then and also partly because people just love to say ugly things on the internet, those rumours have just snowballed ever since then.
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Post by cindigirl Mon 13 Aug 2012, 16:09

fava wrote:They may have few sexual inbiitions. They are probably pretty darn flexible too! (unlike me if you get my drift)

Ah yes fava flexible. I don't believe there are too many other women who are as flexible as Stacy. Embarassed
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Post by barla Mon 13 Aug 2012, 17:03

Katiedot wrote:
The next mrs clooney wrote: The body language displayed with others was very different and he was more at ease.
Don't take my word for it: there are about fifteen 20-page threads about Elisabetta on this forum alone. Go back and read what the fans were actually saying then.

I can tell you this: the fans who were scrutinising every picture of George and Canalis (or George and Sarah for that matter) the same way we are now with George and Stacy were largely unable to identify any warmth, any sense of relationship between the two of them at all. What was remarkable to many posters was how long George and Elisabetta lasted given how unhappy they looked throughout their relationship. Their breakup was expected on a monthly basis. Almost all of their pictures together were described as George looking bored or embarrassed or angry or ignoring her altogether.

I'm NOT saying the fans were right in their assessment by the way. I'm only saying that was the prevailing feeling at the time.

@Barla: the gay rumours about George really picked up pace at the time he was dating Sarah Larson. She was the first girlfriend widely considered to be a contract girlfriend thus giving fuel to those rumours. Partly because George has been unable to look consistently happy with any woman on his arm since then and also partly because people just love to say ugly things on the internet, those rumours have just snowballed ever since then.

...ehmmmm..ok katie, you're right!! no more plus words...except for the fact that it clearly that you would not work in the fashion industry or that you didn't see SK live. She isn't tall and slim .. she's is huge. No grace, no elegance..at all!! Then I have to tell you that I lived through the prelude to their breakup, where the entire entourage of George (but not him, hear, hear) pushed for their breakup, inevitably (and rightly so), has arrived ...
One last thing .... but because these constant comparisons with the poor, ignorant, neglected, rejected EC? The story is closed and far away.... It is perhaps now the final time to compare Eli inappropriate with the current and beloved companion of george? We feel for the wedding and the baptism of their children .... maybe they really deserve, each other .... Hello! Hello!
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Post by lucy Mon 13 Aug 2012, 17:31

Well I would take Eli's or Stacy's body any day any time, if only I could wake up bow legged and hot wearing a thong, or tall, big shouldered, etc. I'd want my husbands life insurance up to date cause either way he drop dead at the site of me!
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Post by Missa Mon 13 Aug 2012, 21:24

I don't think the fact that people always makes the same comments about George's girlfriends necessarily means that those comments aren't accurate. If he repeatedly dates d-list models/actresses twenty years his junior who use their connection with him to boost their careers to the c-list, with whom he seems to have no connection or a quickly fading connection, then of course the comments will be the same. If he ever decides to switch it up a little, I'm sure we will as well.

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Post by Lighterside Mon 13 Aug 2012, 21:55

Missa wrote:Those with light sensitive eyes can probably answer my question: do camera flashes cause you trouble? Because light is light, right? If her eyes are so sensitive as to require sunglasses on a cloudy day, she must have been in agony on all those red carpets, with hundreds of cameras flashing at her all at once. I suppose you could argue that her sensitivity is recent, but then she didn't wear sunglasses on her trip back to NYC a few weeks ago, out at a Yankee game with Torrie. Maybe the light is different in Europe, stronger. Are they closer to the equator in Italy? That might explain it. Rolling Eyes

I can't speak for Stacy but as for myself, that would be an emphatic YES the lights from flash bulbs absolutely KILL ME....like I said, it's my own situation with my eyes that I'm speaking about; I can't speak for her or to her reasons for wearing them but I also can't be ragging on her for something I do myself either, if you know what I mean. Smile
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Post by Missa Mon 13 Aug 2012, 21:59

Lighter,

I would expect that would be the case. But we never saw her wearing sunglasses on a red carpet. Or ever, not with this frequency, until someone apparently told her that's what Europeans do. Now they're superglued to her forehead. Look at the latest boat pics (from August 12): she's wearing them at night. Seriously? Rolling Eyes It just seems like an affectation to me, and rubs me the wrong way.
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Post by Missa Tue 14 Aug 2012, 00:26

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Here's a link of video of George in Villa Oleandra. The style doesnt seem to match the pictures of the one for rent at all.

The ad on the website mentions a guest house on the property; perhaps the interview was conducted there? I seem to remember during Diane Sawyer's interview and tour, they walked into the master bedroom, and they both commented on how ridiculously ornate it was, especially the ceiling. George even said he didn't sleep in that room, it was too much for him.

Hey, I just found stills from the video on this forum. Here's the link to the thread: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

The rooms aren't identical to those on the website, but it's more ornate than what's shown in that other video. The rental posting might not be for his villa, but it's not impossible that he's redecorated since both of these interviews. If he was planning to rent/sell, he may have deliberately decorated in a style people would expect from an "Italian villa", rather than his own.
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Post by The next mrs clooney Tue 14 Aug 2012, 02:47

Just for Stacy:

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Post by Katiedot Tue 14 Aug 2012, 08:48

In case anyone's looking for the conversation about George possibly renting out his villa, I've made it a new thread here: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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Post by Joanna Tue 14 Aug 2012, 10:38

The next mrs clooney wrote:Just for Stacy:

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Nothing !! Is that the message Tnmc ? Very subtle....LOL
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Post by The next mrs clooney Tue 14 Aug 2012, 14:30

Trying again!!!!

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Post by Joanna Tue 14 Aug 2012, 16:45

Wow.... that looks like he's pleasuring himself
in the first section !! lol!
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