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Post by Missa Wed 01 Oct 2014, 13:26

It's hard to even know where to begin, but let's start with the fact that he's 53 and not 54, which seems a basic enough fact for a celebrity's fan to get right. But I think you've clearly established you're not a fan. If you were, you'd know that George hasn't spent the last twenty years talking about how "horrific" marriage was; at worst, he said that he tried it and it just wasn't for him. He also said several times that he'd never say never, so the door was always cracked open for him to change his mind.

As Katie said, if you don't think George regularly sells his private life, sometimes in the same breath as complaining about press intrusion into his life, then you haven't been paying attention. And just a tip: the people commenting in internet comment sections do not represent to view of the majority. For the most part they seem like they've all gone off their medication at the same time.
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Post by NewFanForever Wed 01 Oct 2014, 13:41

Being in the media for a lot of his life I think GC is well aware that the horse has bolted for the type of media we have seen recently.

No longer are the days when women head to the shops or newsagents on a Monday or Wednesdays to pick up there 4 or 5 favourite mags it has become unaffordable. Necessities must prevail.
 
All this is changing and very soon...Newspapers are on the way out and I believe will probably be followed my mags.

When reading on many sites...people are talking about"decluttering" even prized magazines...citing you can now just google online for anything you want.

George Clooney's people would be up to date with these changes and I feel as a few have mentioned he has been acting out of character doing and allowing things he normally may not do....but times are such that we may never see or have hard copy of events such as this again.

Perhaps we will be coming to GC's open house and paying a fee to see pics?

I don't know...but..

There are a few things in life you can be certain of.

1/ I will always look at any awards events AJ attends to see what she "looks" like.

2/ Brad is really leading in his dedication to fathering and remaining a youthful role model.

Therefore any media will in the future pay them for what they have to offer are offering.

This is what the public want to see and here about!

What we have seen here this weekend with GC and Amal is a token/exchange of the excellence that we may be able to expect in the future from them?

Its up to us now the public to make our own decisions.

Because online media is so critical it needs to be handled in a different way from times past and care must be taken to not oversaturate/bore people as it can easily come across as attention seeking....imo


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Post by doris day Wed 01 Oct 2014, 15:24

i dont know if its real love or not,imo we can just guess. the only thing i can say for sure is that she is the first one who is different from the others,she has no  infamies in her past that we know,no gossip about her, shes a well known barrister and not a waiter or ex wrestler or model or hooker (nothing against waiters !) so if he wants to start  something new,imo probably politics and wash away some bad comments there were about his private life, this is the right person. that said,always imo,i agree that she seems to like press attention a lot,but probably most of people would...who could be indifferent to the  can can that happened in venice? who could  be disgusted from the attentions and care she had? imo any  woman woul like to be overwhelmed by attention dresses etc.imo they have a project and if the project is public life ,shes perfect for that

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Post by lelacorb Wed 01 Oct 2014, 16:44

Amal likes attention? May be or she trying say to everyone: I there are too. Must not have been easy for her to get married in Venice in the crowd shouting, only the name of George. Maybe Amal, seeking attention, she just wanted to say this: I there are too


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Post by doris day Wed 01 Oct 2014, 16:47

lela i did not understand what u wrote...

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Post by globalchick Sat 11 Oct 2014, 11:57

There's a poster over at the Daily Mail - from New York - who has said the following today:

In relation to an article on Stacey:

She (Stacey) looks amazing. Insiders are saying George is regretting marrying that idiot woman. Own it Stacy! He'll be sorry!

And in an article on George's purchase of the $20 million mansion:

Word on the street is that she is a nightmare. George not happy already.


Could be rubbish of course. But he's just had to spend a lot of non stop time with her and she's got a ring on her finger now and no need to impress anymore. Interesting. And he looked very old in New York. Not like a man who'd just been on vacation. It looked like he's aged 5 years in a month. 

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Post by Picachu Sat 11 Oct 2014, 12:16

who the hell would want to be a celebrity with all this utter rubbish being written. I don't believe for one minute George is regretting his marriage, its just people with nothing better to do with their sad little lives that spread this rubbish
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Post by Donnamarie Sat 11 Oct 2014, 14:07

Thank you Picachu. Couldn't have said it better. I sometimes will read comments below an article online and wow there are some pretty incredible and hateful things said by these anonymous people. It's pretty disgusting. Yes, they must lead sad little lives.
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Post by Silje Sat 11 Oct 2014, 14:45

Someone is leaking old Amal pics in US Magazine comment sections and she looks quite different back then so she has definetely had a make-over. There is also a pic with George and Waldo? supposedly leaving the hotel in New York?

I suspect the nutter is on that board too but where would she get the pics from? So who is leaking them? Amal's ex boyfriend? The right wing movement in America?

And Donnamarie and Annmarie someone is using your user names leaking some of the pics.
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Post by Alisonfan Sat 11 Oct 2014, 15:15

globalchick wrote:There's a poster over at the Daily Mail - from New York - who has said the following today:

In relation to an article on Stacey:

She (Stacey) looks amazing. Insiders are saying George is regretting marrying that idiot woman. Own it Stacy! He'll be sorry!

And in an article on George's purchase of the $20 million mansion:

Word on the street is that she is a nightmare. George not happy already.


Could be rubbish of course. But he's just had to spend a lot of non stop time with her and she's got a ring on her finger now and no need to impress anymore. Interesting. And he looked very old in New York. Not like a man who'd just been on vacation. It looked like he's aged 5 years in a month. 



I think he found a lovely fresh girl, but she is morphing into his past girlfriends, lets face it that is what he likes.  She never wore her skirts that short before GC.

To a degree, she is on the road to becoming like past GF IMO.

Look at the pictures of this happy go lucky girl, and compare with wedding.  

I feel she will miss the life and love's she had before.

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Post by Alisonfan Sat 11 Oct 2014, 15:17

See happy! AND NO MICRO SKIRTS!

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Post by fava Sat 11 Oct 2014, 15:46

Alisonfan wrote:See happy! AND NO MICRO SKIRTS!

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Um, how do you know her skirt length from these photos?

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Post by fava Sat 11 Oct 2014, 15:50

globalchick wrote:There's a poster over at the Daily Mail - from New York - who has said the following today:

In relation to an article on Stacey:

She (Stacey) looks amazing. Insiders are saying George is regretting marrying that idiot woman. Own it Stacy! He'll be sorry!

And in an article on George's purchase of the $20 million mansion:

Word on the street is that she is a nightmare. George not happy already.


Could be rubbish of course. But he's just had to spend a lot of non stop time with her and she's got a ring on her finger now and no need to impress anymore. Interesting. And he looked very old in New York. Not like a man who'd just been on vacation. It looked like he's aged 5 years in a month. 

"word on the street" from anonymous posters "could be rubbish"?  LOL

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Post by globalchick Sat 11 Oct 2014, 16:16

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Looks like she's had her teeth done recently based on those photos. And yes she used to dress more modestly. I've seen other pics from where you sourced these. 

Many people were competely repulsed by that wildly inappropriate short skirted dress she wore at her Venice wedding which barely covered her underwear when she knew she was climbing into boats. If you read the comments below any of the wedding articles alot of women lost all respect for her because of that outfit. The skirt was virtually flush with her pubic area and she knew she was facing a wall of photographers. And she knew that would be the case. That one choice shows exactly the kind of person Amal is. It would have been wildly inappropriate at any age and even more pathetic from a woman who is turning 40 in a couple of years. My gut feel is that George has told her that her best feature is her legs and she made those choices in a desperate attempt to impress him. But it just showed very poor judgement and she was lucky the paparazzi didn't get a crotch shot. It's even more pathetic that a lawyer and a human rights lawyer of all types, felt the need to behave like that. I don't even remember Stacey wearing a skirt so short so even Stacey, the wrestler, had better judgement than Amal. 


I think that once her rich Uncle Ziad's bank accounts got frozen she was looking for a sugar daddy and along came George. Since she met him she has been very busy relieving him of his money - $700,000 on the engagement ring, $20 million on the British home, millions on the wedding etc, huge amounts on stylists and designer dresses. There is not a lot to admire about this attention seeking woman. I stand by my earlier prediction that soon we will be seeing this woman in the front row of fashion shows and she will spend her time reading Vogue and not law journals. I also believe she will become increasingly self obsessed and obsessed with her appearance because she is not the most photogenic of women and certainly could never have been a model or actress with her face. When she starts doing the award ceremony circuit with George and face to face with all the actresses like Angelina Jolie and Charlize Theron it will bring out the very worst in her. Amal is light year's away from Matt Damon's civilian wife who was never a show off or attention seeker.


Amal also had the long red dress she wore at Venice drastically shortened from the original design execution to flaunt her legs. She's a show off. 


Also when you think about George's ex flames like porn stars Krista Allen and Ginger Lynn I wonder if Amal will feel a bit inadequate sexually too in time.  Most women would be worried if their husband's exes were porn stars. George's motivation in all of this IMO is that part of her attraction to him is that he's using her for an image change. Make himself look more serious and credible. But I think he will find out he's bitten off more than he can chew here. It will be interesting to see how this all unfolds.

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Post by Alisonfan Sat 11 Oct 2014, 19:32

Fava,

Here is the skirt length, but it is really from "gossip/third party" ppl who know her were hugely surprised by the wedding day after and day before pictures.  We have seen pictures on this site from gossip mags wearing shorts, the ppl do not by these mags, but did buy the Hello wedding addition and newspaper coverage of the Venice weekend and were genuinely shocked at both dresses.  Please see below her regular length.

Globalchick,


I think you are only seeing half the story, perfectly correct in some things you say, but you wrongly put all the blame on Amal, true she is morphing into girlfriends past, but helped hugely and with intent by George and his enormous PR machine.  It could become the classic case of the pupil becoming the master, but we must wait and see.  It is a shame that someone can be so influenced by ppl they trust to look out for them and guide them.  I think for instance the dress length may have been influenced by ppl saying "the fans love it, they say "why cant a human rights lawyer be sexy" you go girl work those sexy legs for miles, leave them breathless, show the sensuous side of the law".  Would you believe it, well hell yes if told enough and read some place like here, where only few of us have said "This is inappropriate" and when we do get shot down.  So think on that next time you follow the heard and agree to something you would not recommend YOUR daughter to do.  I feel Amal at this stage has been let down by ppl who should have been protecting her interests the most.  Right up to the engagement I feel she was protected, and then all bets were off.  Look at these pictures of a happy girl and wonder where she has gone. JMO

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Post by Atalante Sat 11 Oct 2014, 20:28

Where do these photos come from ?
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Post by LornaDoone Sat 11 Oct 2014, 20:34

such a load of bullshit being spewed here.

Amal isn't relieving George of his money.  HE decides what to do with his money.

Comments here are so emasculating and disrespectful.

No matter who George married, there will ALWAYS be negative people with WAY too much time on their hands to make constant negative comments.

It makes me wonder what kind of home life the negative nellies have.

Is your life so horrible that you need to come onto a FAN forum and post negative after negative post?

It is so fucking tedious to read the ramblings.

Unless George or Amal are posting HERE the comments anyone makes is OPINION not fucking FACT.

She's got her teeth done.

She's spending his money.

She's wearing shorter skirts.

She's doing this, she's doing that, she'd doing it at George's direction, she's doing it on her own.  She's become a witch and on and on and on.

And if I hear one more OPINION STATED AS IF FACT about some PR machine leading George by the nose to do any number of things that a man WITH FREE WILL HAS BEEN DOING OF HIS OWN ACCORD I'm going to Fucking scream!

GEEZUS!

Could you give your fucking delusions that you continually try to state as fact a rest?
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Post by Missa Sat 11 Oct 2014, 20:38

My favorite part was "This one time five years ago she wore a slightly longer skirt. SHE'S TURNED INTO A MONSTER."

Oh, and also: George NEVER dated Krista Allen. Nope, never. Not one time. Never mind all the pictures; he doesn't even know who she is. Wink
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Post by Doug Ross Sat 11 Oct 2014, 20:54

I think she started dressing more stylish and did something to her teeth when she got the job in London and moved there.

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Post by Missa Sat 11 Oct 2014, 20:56

Um, George also has a completely different set of teeth from the start of his career. Lots of people get veneers or caps or whatever when they have the money to do it.
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Post by LornaDoone Sat 11 Oct 2014, 20:57

Missa wrote:My favorite part was "This one time five years ago she wore a slightly longer skirt. SHE'S TURNED INTO A MONSTER."

Oh, and also: George NEVER dated Krista Allen. Nope, never. Not one time. Never mind all the pictures; he doesn't even know who she is. Wink
Yea, I always wondered how Krista was able to photoshop herself into that pap picture of her and George in the back seat of the car right after he won his Oscar. 

And I do remember of picture of the two of them walking arm and arm after they had dinner.  The pap camera was really far away but the zoom was working perfectly.

Yea.
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Post by Picachu Sat 11 Oct 2014, 21:00

oh boy if i had legs like Amal i most certainly would were a small dress like that, she looked stunning

and who cares about who he dated before he is MARRIED, deal with it people and drop all the crap, its so tiring and boring
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Post by The next mrs clooney Sat 11 Oct 2014, 21:05

Anyone who looks the same as they did 10 years ago put your hands up!!
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Post by LizzyNY Sat 11 Oct 2014, 21:08

There is more fiction here than in all George's movies put together! It's amazing the plot lines some people can devise just from looking at a few pictures and reading a few anonymous posts about people they've never met and will likely never meet. Fantasyland is alive and well! Errrr
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Post by party animal - not! Sat 11 Oct 2014, 21:09

So if this is all a publicity stunt (irrespective of what everybody has said about the relationship that we're seeing so far, and it is only those with a public platform at the mo) why on earth has Our Man moved heaven and earth to be with this lady for the past year? Oh, and decided to marry her and move to the UK for half of the year??!!

What could possibly be another motive? Someone tell me please.



These two are in love, guys. So please pull yourselves together and get a grip!

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Post by Missa Sat 11 Oct 2014, 21:13

Because she's entranced him with her Magic Druze Legs, with which she convinces him to spend every penny he has buying her dresses and homes and new teeth. The only catch is that her legs must be constantly visible or the spell wears off.

At least, that's what I read on the internet.
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Post by LizzyNY Sat 11 Oct 2014, 21:34

Not worthy Missa - You're a genius! You've solved the mystery!  If you read it on the internet then it MUST be true. Very Happy
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Post by Doug Ross Sat 11 Oct 2014, 21:40

Missa wrote:Because she's entranced him with her Magic Druze Legs, with which she convinces him to spend every penny he has buying her dresses and homes and new teeth. The only catch is that her legs must be constantly visible or the spell wears off.

At least, that's what I read on the internet.

Haahahahahahaha I'm sure that these are the real reasons. lol!lol!

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Post by Silje Sat 11 Oct 2014, 23:05

George Clooney fans seems to be more then a little obsessive, either critizing him or defending him. Kind of reminds me of Twiharders.  But Twiharders tend be to be teenage girls and George Clooney's fans tend to be a little older, so I am surprised of the aggressiveness people are showing to other posters.

The guy is just an actor. We don't know him personally, do we? So what is the big  deal of letting someone else have a different opinion?

Personally I never believed the love story and I probably never will. I don't think they will get divorced, I think it will be a marriage of convience, like her parent's marriage seems to be. There is nothing wrong with that.

But because I don't believe the love story of course I am curious to why he married her. Maybee time will tell, maybee not.

I like gossip, I think a lot of people do, who read gossip mags or are on Fan forums. Nothing wrong with that either, it just a  hobby right now fo me.

Speaking  of true love I saw an interview on Scandinavian TV about the American Missionary  woman who got Ebola and survived. She and her husband were both on the show and they had been married for 40 years and they had such love and such faith in God. That was beautiful to watch. So even a cynic like me do believe in real love but most marriages/relationship that I have seen are not like that.
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Post by LornaDoone Sat 11 Oct 2014, 23:09

Silje wrote:George Clooney fans seems to be more then a little obsessive, either critizing him or defending him. Kind of reminds me of Twiharders.  But Twiharders tend be to be teenage girls and George Clooney's fans tend to be a little older, so I am surprised of the aggressiveness people are showing to other posters.

The guy is just an actor. We don't know him personally, do we? So what is the big  deal of letting someone else have a different opinion?

Personally I never believed the love story and I probably never will. I don't think they will get divorced, I think it will be a marriage of convience, like her parent's marriage seems to be. There is nothing wrong with that.

But because I don't believe the love story of course I am curious to why he married her. Maybee time will tell, maybee not.

I like gossip, I think a lot of people do, who read gossip mags or are on Fan forums. Nothing wrong with that either, it just a  hobby right now fo me.

Speaking  of true love I saw an interview on Scandinavian TV about the American Missionary  woman who got Ebola and survived. She and her husband were both on the show and they had been married for 40 years and they had such love and such faith in God. That was beautiful to watch. So even a cynic like me do believe in real love but most marriages/relationship that I have seen are not like that.

No issue with someone having an OPINION.  My issue is with posters who come on here spewing bullshit as FACT.
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Post by iamnoone Sun 12 Oct 2014, 00:12

well not all marriages are major love affairs,  passion screaming throwing dishes then make up sex in the kitchen.

there are partnerships based on loyalty, mutual respect, common goals and love yes.   I have no idea if thats the case here, but i sincerely hope there is a bond that supports both, gives them comfort, love and whatever else they look for in a marriage.

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Post by doris day Sun 12 Oct 2014, 01:29

Many people were competely repulsed by that wildly inappropriate short skirted dress...
REPULSED?????
somebody who is "completely repulsed" by a short skirt seen in a magazine needs a very very good psy.
i think that somebody here is showing at least a deep unhappiness if not some mental trouble

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Post by amaretti Sun 12 Oct 2014, 02:16

Ha ha haaa ( wish I had my mothers'  long long legs ).   Very Happy

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Post by Atalante Sun 12 Oct 2014, 13:31

Laughing So, ... , the pictures, where's the source ?
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Post by LornaDoone Sun 12 Oct 2014, 22:06

Atalante wrote:Laughing So, ... , the pictures, where's the source ?

Atalante the photos come up as from a photobucket account.

If you quote the original post and then look for the [ img ] strings you can see the url.

I didn't go to them since I'm not that interested and not really that great with photo stuff anyway, but it might give you more info.
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Post by globalchick Tue 14 Oct 2014, 09:30

Well initial thoughts by some people here that Clooney was trying to set up he and Amal to be a high profile "humanitarian" couple seem to be proving correct. Amal arrived in Greece today surrounded by cameras and media attention. Why? Because her chambers released the timing of her arrival in Greece last week to maximise the cameras and photographers who would be there. And Mrs Clooney arrived "ready for her closeup" clearly loving the attention and going straight for the cameras. The whole thing was set up to be a publicity stunt. And it seems to follow on from George deliberately arranging a PR media spectacle wedding for 4 days in front of the world's paparazzi. 

There's only one problem. People are not responding well to the show and her obvious love of the cameras. And George's name is being dragged into all the publicity. One of the reasons for George's enduring popularity is precisely that he avoided becoming part of a media circus (like Ben Affleck/JLo or even Brangelina). He avoided being overexposed. Amal's visit is getting a whole lot of (negative) coverage in the UK as many Brits want to hang on to the marbles and they know a PR stunt when they see it. And George's name and image is being dragged into all the media coverage.

It's hard to believe that George and Stan never thought of this when they conceived of the idea of a PR stunt wedding and a super high profile relationship for George. 

But I think it will all backfire on him as his name gets dragged into the mess. How will he retreat from the spotlight when he is always being dragged into it by her? It's like he is now doubling his publicity. And that's not going to be good. Double the attention. Double the paparazzi. Bearing in mind that none of this would be happening if George had married quietly or privately on an estate and released one picture of the wedding. He wanted to and did try and turn her into a celebrity lawyer with his media spectacle wedding and then selling the wedding pictures to any rag or magazine that would buy the pictures in every country in the world. 

And around the corner another media stunt in Britain awaits at the Alamuddin wedding celebrations. All of this is not good for George's reputation. He and Amal have gone way overboard. And all the in your face lavish spending [$20 million dollar British mansion and the release of all the interior pictures globally, the multi million dollar nuptials, $700,000 engagement ring]. 

I think Amal is going to be his undoing. And the more Amal shoves herself into the spotlight the greater the risk that the British media will turn negativity into stories and Amal has a lot of skeletons in her closet. The arms dealer uncle, the family's anti-semitic views, the rumoured affairs with the married judge etc. It's only a matter of time before the British media start digging especially now she's taken on an unpopular [with the British] public cause.

I think George thinks he's the zen master of the media but maybe he's gotten too big for his boots and all this might backfire spectacularly.

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Post by lamby Wed 15 Oct 2014, 06:30

@Globalchick

You do realize that everything you have seen, are seeing and will see is of George's own devise?
Who do you think arranged everything? Amal isn't shoving herself anywhere.
IMO, it's all going swimmingly.

Some of the things you are saying sound like the rantings of one who's initials are DR.
I wouldn't be quoting unsubstantiated, and highly inflammatory rumors being spread by someone deeply deranged and clinically insane, if I were you.
I did read about her uncle's situation but his dealings do not cast aspersions on Amal nor her family.

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Post by Atalante Wed 15 Oct 2014, 09:44

Hollywood is business ! And G.C. just loves his jokes and tricks. Group  He has got a mediashow going on to entertain you all.  Seesaw of good and e
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Post by Katiedot Wed 15 Oct 2014, 10:18

Ok, let's put some facts behind the opinions and see how they stack up:

globalchick wrote:Amal arrived in Greece today surrounded by cameras and media attention. Why? Because her chambers released the timing of her arrival in Greece last week to maximise the cameras and photographers who would be there.
 Doughty Street love their publicity and seeing as they dont have much of a legal case, they're going to have to depend on a strong media campaign to support their case.  None of this has anything to do with George.  Amal has been involved in this years before she ever even met him.  

globalchick wrote:And Mrs Clooney arrived "ready for her closeup" clearly loving the attention and going straight for the cameras.
Riiiight.  And what would you have written if she'd turned up makeup free, ratty hair and running away from the cameras?  Let me tell you: you'd have written that she was an embarrassment to George, letting him and the whole world down with her totally unprofessional behaviour and attitude.  

The fact is, she did exactly what every other person in the world would do knowing that they were being met by the world's press on arrival at an airport: she dressed up and she showed up.   This was a work event and she behaved accordingly.

globalchick wrote:There's only one problem. People are not responding well to the show and her obvious love of the cameras.
 "People" eh?  I think you mean you and a handful of other commentators on internet forums and comment sections of tabloid newspapers.  That's not people, sunshine, so stop pretending it is.

And while we're on the subject of pretending, please stop pretending that there's a single human being out there who isn't disliked by someone and has never been criticised by anyone.  Even the very best people who behave with the very best intentions have their detractors.  Clooney does too.  Always has and always will.  That's never going to change.  A number of critical articles and posts are standard every day fare for him, as it is for all celebs, and isn't a big deal.  

globalchick wrote:And George's name is being dragged into all the publicity
 Ahem, it's Amal's name too now.

globalchick wrote:One of the reasons for George's enduring popularity is precisely that he avoided becoming part of a media circus (like Ben Affleck/JLo or even Brangelina).
 Yeah, cos he never dragged his previous girlfriends down the red carpet at the Oscars and he never staged any paparazzi shots of them at restaurants or any of that, now did he?  Yeah, that was sarcasm.  George has been selling out his private life for years now.

globalchick wrote:But I think it will all backfire on him as his name gets dragged into the mess. How will he retreat from the spotlight when he is always being dragged into it by her?
 Always?  Always?  Reality check: it's one time.  And seeing as he's often in the spotlight himself (it's part of his job) I can't see how you figure this is going to be an issue for him.

globalchick wrote: It's like he is now doubling his publicity. And that's not going to be good. Double the attention. Double the paparazzi.
Really?  If that's true, then you tell me where he's been every single day since he got married.  All we know is that he spent two nights, one day in New York and that was on a publicity tour.  Where he was in those weeks between leaving Venice and turning up in New York is anyone's guess.  We don't even know where he went on honeymoon!

The fact is he's surrounded by paparazzi any way and has been for the last two decades.  It's not going to get any worse for him beause it already is at maximum level on account of him being an A-list film star (something you seem to have forgotten).


globalchick wrote:Bearing in mind that none of this would be happening if George had married quietly or privately on an estate and released one picture of the wedding.
 Oh come off it, you're kidding, right?  You really and truly think that had George married quietly the whole world's media would just have gone 'meh' at the first opportunity to photograph the new wife in public and not bothered to show up?  Really?

globalchick wrote:He wanted to and did try and turn her into a celebrity lawyer
 Whoever he married would have become a target for the media.  Whether he wanted her to become known or not is irrelevant because it will happen.

globalchick wrote:All of this is not good for George's reputation. He and Amal have gone way overboard. And all the in your face lavish spending [$20 million dollar British mansion and the release of all the interior pictures globally, the multi million dollar nuptials, $700,000 engagement ring
 And?  What of it?  People are used to stars spending a lot of money on weddings and living a lavish lifestyle.  There's always someone who's going to criticise but that's a fact that's true for everyone: there are people who find reasons to criticise anyone.  

globalchick wrote:I think Amal is going to be his undoing.
 Correction: you deeply and desperately long for her to be his undoing.  

globalchick wrote:Amal has a lot of skeletons in her closet. The arms dealer uncle, the family's anti-semitic views, the rumoured affairs with the married judge etc. It's only a matter of time before the British media start digging
 And you think George cares about any of this?  We all marry who we want and deal with their less than stellar family.  Or, if we can't deal, we don't marry.  George is married so I think that's your clue as to what he thinks.  If it'snot a problem for him, why on earth are you making it a problem for you?

With regards to the media digging up her past, that would be true no matter what she did.  Even if she'd given up her job and gone to live as a stay at home wife the media will love finding out bad things about her.  But you shouldn't make the mistake of thinking it's because they care; it's not.  They'll do it because it'll sell more newspapers and magazines.

globalchick wrote:especially now she's taken on an unpopular [with the British] public cause.
Ok, lets put this statement into perspective, shall we? Of the, let's say 0.5% of the British population who even give a shit about the Elgin marbles, please explain what massive damage is this going to do the George Clooney that is so catastrophic that she shouldn't take on the case?
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Post by jd68 Wed 15 Oct 2014, 10:28

^ Thank Katiedot!  cheers The majority of us on the forum are rabid Clooney fans. We actively seek out as much info on George that we can find. The general public heard about the wedding, maybe a broader circle was aware he attended ComicCon in NY but other than that they aren't aware of anything else.
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Post by MeganMorris Wed 15 Oct 2014, 10:50

globalchick wrote:And George's name is being dragged into all the publicity. One of the reasons for George's enduring popularity is precisely that he avoided becoming part of a media circus (like Ben Affleck/JLo or even Brangelina). He avoided being overexposed.
The tabloids/paparazzi circus it's not  something you can control completely. If there is interest from the the public, the media and the paparazzi will follow you. Or if there interest in the media to try an turn someone into a new target  to have more people for their stories.

I always find it funny when some actors say "I'm private because I'm not in tabloids and paparazzi don't follow me much". NO. You're not in tabloids and paparazzi don't follow you much because there isn't much public interest in you. lol If there was interest there would be nothing you could do but to try avoid it.

I can't speak about Ben Affleck/JLo because I never follow them, but I can speak about Angelina and Brad, because  I do follow them, as I said Angelina and George are my favorite actors.

Any paparazzi will tell you how hard it as always been to catch them and all the tricks Angelina and Brad use (decoy cars etc) to escape them. Anyone in the press will tell you how no one has any  real sources to them. And both of them don't have a PR person (Angelina never had one and Brad left his in 2008).

When they gave birth to the twins in France, the paparazzi were  in the roof of the building and had even rented a room above the one where Angelina was and tried to make a hole in the floor to try and take pics. This is how crazy they go to try and catch them. Angelina and Brad with the twins still manage to get out of the building without the paparazzi getting any photos. lol

From 2007 to 2010 there was an obsession from the tabloids. After 2010, things started to change, I believe because people realized that the tabloids stories were lies and the tabloid coverage diminished. They still have Angelina and Brad on their cover and stories, but not as much. After 10 years the lies of the tabloids doesn't sell as well. Lol

All of that had no impact on their careers. They both just had their biggest box office opening with WWZ and Maleficent. Variety did a test of the actors popularity (in all the social media etc) some months ago and Angelina was like the 2nd behind kristen Stewart if I'm not mistaken.

In some months it will make 10 years Angelina and Brad are together and even with people thinking they were already married etc on the day it was known they had married, they trend on worldwide twitter on and off all day.


George and Amal with all the media coverage never trended on worldwide twitter or in any social media. The explanation I saw is that George is not popular in social media because the users are younger and the younger crowd is not into him. That Variety test point to that. Also Amal is not known.

Actors lose popularity as they get older, and no media stunt will change that. George is an intelligent man he got no know this. 

I don't think the marriage and all of this PR from Amal firm, is George idea, unless it is to make Amal known and get the public interested. But that never works either. Media  can't create a real interest on someone, you got to let the public get interest on their own or it wont last.

I hope Amal as a woman (tabloids are harder on women then on men, women have it a lot tougher ) is ready to the bullshit of tabloids. It won't take long before they start body shamming her (I'm an Angelina fan I've been seeing this since Angelina started getting known in her teenage years. Angelina is very skinny since she was a child) making  stories like she's dying etc

I also hope they're both prepared for bullshit from the media (breakup, cheating covers etc), as it will happen to them. Even if not as bad as Angelina and Brad, it will be a test to their relationship.

I remember George saying how Brad and Angelina knew how to deal with the media and paparazzi, that they turn that spotlight to the people and causes that need support (Angelina has been doing it since she was 24 and started traveling with the UNHCR) and how that was the way to do it. So his heart is in the right place.

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Post by Donnamarie Wed 15 Oct 2014, 12:33

MeganMorris, you are right that Brad and Angie do understand the media and how to deal with them. And George does also. And has for many years. He can go for lengths of time between photo ops if he chooses. He is savvy and experienced at handling the press. The press can be relentless in pursuing stories and stars. I think Brad and Angie have done an excellent job in managing their personal lives in the public eye. Give them a lot of credit. George and Amal are coming off a very public wedding. But they did what they wanted to do. I think they will manage being in the public eye with the same skill that they handled their early relationship. Discreetly as much as possible.
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Post by Donnamarie Wed 15 Oct 2014, 13:29

Katiedot, so appreciate you taking the time to debunk so much of what global chick has stated in her earlier posting. I don't have the patience to even read much of what she posts almost daily. Sometimes when I do read her posts I often regret it. I think global chick is more interested in getting attention than stating facts or using logic to back up her assertions.
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Post by Alisonfan Wed 15 Oct 2014, 16:13

must say it would be refreshing to see more posts/threads on just George.

jmo.

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Post by Katiedot Wed 15 Oct 2014, 17:47

I totally agree, Alisonfan. So why not start up a few conversations?
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Post by Atalante Wed 15 Oct 2014, 19:52

So who is Katiedot really ?
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Post by Nicky80 Wed 15 Oct 2014, 20:15

Donnamarie wrote:Katiedot, so appreciate you taking the time to debunk so much of what global chick has stated in her earlier posting.  I don't have the patience to even read much of what she posts almost daily.  Sometimes when I do read her posts I often regret it.   I think global chick is more interested in getting attention than stating facts or using logic to back up her assertions.  

Yeah Right

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Post by Atalante Fri 17 Oct 2014, 12:27

Before Clooney she looked happy, seeing those pictures, now she looks like an arrogant diva. Sad really.
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Post by LizzyNY Fri 17 Oct 2014, 14:13

Atalante - Or maybe she looks like a woman who is trying her best to deal with a boatload of attention she's not yet accustomed to. She's finding her way in the public eye. Maybe the arrogance and diva behavior you see is just nerves and discomfort at always having to be perfect because everyone is always watching. It must be exhausting to have to watch every move you make and every word you speak.
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Post by Donnamarie Fri 17 Oct 2014, 15:32

Atalante, you obviously dont know what arrogance looks like. Your comments are sad really!
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