Re: Why Does George Date These Gals

by Lighterside Thu 13 Feb 2014, 12:14

Ocean, the only thing that I have to say to the opinions you've shared thus far is George's life IS NOT a Harlequin Romance novel and no matter how we try to moralize, theorize or analyze his life, NO ONE, not one of us, knows the "real story" because we're looking from the "outside, in"...Just my two & a half cents! Wink

by party animal - not! Thu 13 Feb 2014, 12:46

'Good Catholic boy goes off the rails a bit as far as women are concerned'. Discuss

by Rachel Thu 13 Feb 2014, 14:01

Lighterside wrote:Ocean, the only thing that I have to say to the opinions you've shared thus far is George's life IS NOT a Harlequin Romance novel and no matter how we try to moralize, theorize or analyze his life, NO ONE, not one of us, knows the "real story" because we're looking from the "outside, in"...Just my two & a half cents!

EXACTLY

But maybe George should finally realize, that we here on the forum are the true EXPERTS about HIS LIFE.
Like in my Icon he should pick up a beautiful feather and PURPLE INK some SHEETS OF BEAUTIFUL HANDMADE PAPER and finally start taking his notes on OUR OPINIONS
Maybe we could help eliminate that DARKEST PART, the EYESORE OF HIS LIFE, his so terrible and so disgusting DATING LIFE

pityviolin

Personally I am convinced that people change as they grow older.
Learn from the past but do not live in the past otherwise you will not move forward.
George is moving forward.
HALLELUJAH & AMEN

by Carla97 Thu 13 Feb 2014, 14:15

party animal - not! wrote:'Good Catholic boy goes off the rails a bit as far as women are concerned'. Discuss

Wow, I like this style of thinking, my interest is somewhat renewed for "good catholic boys" now...
I always thought they might be a bit boring.

Well I guess most people know how the story is going to end with "good catholic boy" or any man for the matter...but what neither of us know is where the story will go before it does. Could be super interesting. Hmmm.

Just kidding Wink

by Rachel Thu 13 Feb 2014, 14:35

Carla97 wrote:
party animal - not! wrote:'Good Catholic boy goes off the rails a bit as far as women are concerned'. Discuss

Wow, I like this style of thinking, my interest is somewhat renewed for "good catholic boys" now...
I always thought they might be a bit boring.

Well I guess most people know how the story is going to end with "good catholic boy" or any man for the matter...but what neither of us know is where the story will go before it does. Could be super interesting. Hmmm.

Just kidding

Rofl - if they are like George then I'm also interested in a "Good Catholic Boy"

by ****** Thu 13 Feb 2014, 18:35

I find strange intelligent, politicized, cult, refined man and Hollywood star, dating women who seem to prostitutes, it was just one night, I understand, but dating 2.3 years, goes beyond my understanding. What does he talk to them?

by ktsue2002 Thu 13 Feb 2014, 20:07

I don't have a problem with it. I agree with Mrs. Clooney when she said, "He is a big boy and can take care of himself." I say let him live the way he wants, as long as he isn't breaking laws and hurting anyone.

by Dior Thu 13 Feb 2014, 21:01

ktsue2002 wrote: I say let him live the way he wants, as long as he isn't breaking laws and hurting anyone.

Do not worry, I think he does what he wants all the time.

What is bugging me is this " not hurting anyone".

He seems to use women as objects, they have to be there when it suits him or he is in the mood and then disappear when he doesn't need them anymore, yes?
At least this is the pasha image he is selling to the media.
What a good example for people all over the world.
Use them and then make them go away, immediately or after 2 years. This is how a successful man handles his love life.

The reason why we have feminism in this world are men, who are treating women like this and worse.

And because he chooses women with a raunchy past and doubtful character, his female fans can applause when he dumps them, as they were not good enough for him anyway. And who cares for their feelings, no, they got what they deserve.

Brilliant strategy, but I wouldn't say it hurts nobody.

The stories about his breakups are strange and I cannot imagine that it didn't hurt the women.

by ktsue2002 Thu 13 Feb 2014, 22:01

Wouldn't you think that by the time, say Stacy Keibler, dated GC, she kind of knew the drill. These women aren't innocent victims. They probably played him as well as he played them. Also, I think some do go into this with the intention of using him. I don't think Keibler did that, but she could have.

by ****** Thu 13 Feb 2014, 22:08

Well I think he gets involved with this type of woman, because he knows that hardly fall for one of them ... I love GC, but for me it is a puzzle..Sorry, my Inglês is not perfect.

by ... Thu 13 Feb 2014, 22:33

by theminis Thu 13 Feb 2014, 22:58

My children know that Mummy is a huge fan of Clooney, they think he is the best Batman in the world, but here is a newsflash, they have never googled George Clooney, its absolutely not on their radar to do so, they wouldn't even have a clue if he dates at all = so I very much doubt that "children" the world over are googling George Clooney and his dating life - talk about sensationalism Ocean!

by Mazy Thu 13 Feb 2014, 22:58

Ocean wrote:Yes, but the saddest & most shocking and inconsiderate part in all this is that his public image advisors & George Clooney himself never cared that children, teenagers and respectable adults will Google the girlfriends of Mr Clooney.
It's not like they're publicly anonymous and nothing comes up; or maybe a social networking page. These women are desperate for fame & fortune would do anything for it.
Filth is what the search engines return.

Porn, violence, sleaze, grotesque imagery, stories of illicit substance abuse. Children are subjected to this courtesy of Clooney & PR team.
Children who may adore him in Fantastic Mr Fox. Teenagers learning from GNGL. Adults enjoying his films.
Then they like to learn more about the man....
Research who his life partner is....
AND ARE SUBJECTED TO FILTH!!

So sad!! Yes, that is hurting the innocent children & teenagers.... Polluting their minds. They did not need this nauseating imagery.

YES YES YES, Why not blame George for the War in Iraq, the Economy and anything else you can think of. Give me a break and stop being so ridiculous.

by ... Thu 13 Feb 2014, 23:04

Not all children, teenagers or adults. But many will....
I'm not blaming George at all.
If this is a carefully crafted public image by a PR team, then they should have considered the filth associated.

No sensationalism.
It's common sense. Facts. Google Krista Allen, SK, EC, SL....
People don't need to be exposed to this disgusting imagery nor do they expect it. Shocks.

by theminis Thu 13 Feb 2014, 23:23

Ocean wrote:Not all children, teenagers or adults. But many will....
I'm not blaming George at all.
If this is a carefully crafted public image by a PR team, then they should have considered the filth associated.

No sensationalism.
It's common sense. Facts. Google Krista Allen, SK, EC, SL....
People don't need to be exposed to this disgusting imagery nor do they expect it. Shocks.

And this is where in my opinion you err Ocean, its not a carefully crafted public image by his PR team - if they were to try and manage his life and celebrity status to the degree you suggest then he would be dating a Mother Teresa type.

by ktsue2002 Thu 13 Feb 2014, 23:33

Why does he date these women? Quite simply, ... because he can.

by ... Thu 13 Feb 2014, 23:45

@ theminis - not if they're selling a carefully crafted public image of a suave middle-aged actor with a flamboyant lifestyle who dates fast, desperate women with images bordering on the grotesque, young enough to be his children. Some big gun studio bosses thought this would be an endearing image?
Crass & tasteless.
I understand George agreed to this image.

It's in the past.
Hopefully he's changed. As mentioned by many others here, looked better & happier on red carpet recently.

Ah....the importance of being earnest.

by Mazy Fri 14 Feb 2014, 01:01

@ocean Ar we going back to all these conspiracy theories again? As a way of saving myself tension I will leave these conversation.

by LizzyNY Fri 14 Feb 2014, 01:11

I am sooo tired of this. The man lives his life the way he wants to. He flies solo when it suits him and brings women into his life when and how he wants them - girlfriend, hook-up, one-night stand - whatever. So what? It doesn't take away from all the other things he does in the world, and may be all he needs to be happy. That may bother some people, but it really is HIS life and HIS business. If he is looking for "the one", then I hope he finds her, but if not then I can also accept that the way he lives is HIS choice, not some PR plot foisted on him by the people around him. THAT would really bother me and I have a hard time believing someone who has crafted the career he has could be such a wuss!

by LizzyNY Fri 14 Feb 2014, 01:30

Dior - I have trouble seeing the women in George's life as victims of an uncaring user. First - she'd have to be living under a rock not to know his history with women and his attitude (at least publicly) on marriage and family. Anyone getting involved with him goes in with their eyes open. If not, they're asking for trouble,

Second - A true feminist takes responsibility for her own choices and actions. She has to accept that where George is concerned, 'You pays your money and you takes your chance'. Most of the women he's been with seem to have realized that.

by fava Fri 14 Feb 2014, 01:35

Ocean wrote:@ theminis - not if they're selling a carefully crafted public image of a suave middle-aged actor with a flamboyant lifestyle who dates fast, desperate women with images bordering on the grotesque, young enough to be his children. Some big gun studio bosses thought this would be an endearing image?
Crass & tasteless.
I understand George agreed to this image.

There are a whole lot of totally baseless assumptions in these statements.

by party animal - not! Fri 14 Feb 2014, 01:45

Lots of conjecture about Our Hero's relationships - again - and we'll never know who loved who, who decided to end it, who was broken-hearted etc, etc, but let's not assume they were all one-sided decisions.......

by Katiedot Fri 14 Feb 2014, 05:27

ktsue2002 wrote:I don't have a problem with it. I agree with Mrs. Clooney when she said, "He is a big boy and can take care of himself." I say let him live the way he wants, as long as he isn't breaking laws and hurting anyone.

Totally agree!

Ocean wrote:If this is a carefully crafted public image by a PR team, then they should have considered the filth associated.

And right here's your biggest clue that this ISN'T a carefully crafted image that he's been coerced to take on.

If George's love life were created by his PR team and foisted on him against his wishes, you'd better believe his PR team would have come up with a lot of really lovely presentable women who'd give him that air of polish and sophistication that you seem to admire so much.

Personally I think his choice of girlfriends probably gives his PR team the heebiejeebies.

by it's me Fri 14 Feb 2014, 05:40

heebiejeebies? LOOL funny word Very Happy

by Lighterside Fri 14 Feb 2014, 12:18

Ocean wrote:Not all children, teenagers or adults. But many will....
I'm not blaming George at all.
If this is a carefully crafted public image by a PR team, then they should have considered the filth associated.

No sensationalism.
It's common sense. Facts. Google Krista Allen, SK, EC, SL....
People don't need to be exposed to this disgusting imagery nor do they expect it. Shocks.

Then Ocean dear, I suggest that you stop searching for their images on the internet and you won't scorch your eyes! I think the rest of the world population can worry about their own children and what they should be viewing. I seriously doubt as theminis pointed out, that ANY children are viewing those images that you seem to be obsessing about but I guess we'll never know for sure. But I wouldn't lose any sleep over the issue if I were you. Wink

by ... Fri 14 Feb 2014, 12:24

No need to patronize, Lighterside.
Basically, people search online about the partners of celebrities. You don't know people's pastimes either now, do you?

And if they look up George's recent past girlfriends, they see sordid images as described above.

by Lighterside Fri 14 Feb 2014, 12:35

Ocean wrote:No need to patronize, Lighterside.
Basically, people search online about the partners of celebrities. You don't know people's pastimes either now, do you?

And if they look up George's recent past girlfriends, they see sordid images as described above.

You should actually read the whole post, I believe I said that we would never know for sure about whom is viewing what on the internet.

It's more than just your "concern" and constant harping for the nameless, faceless children of the world, who you think are going to be scarred for life by viewing the naked pictures of the women George's has dated, in your opinion. It's this constant carping and accusations against his PR team, none of whom you know personally and yet you charge them, with a myriad of ridiculous decisions about their client's lifestyle and career, which make ABSOLUTELY no sense to any reasonable person and INSIST that this is what is going on, without the slightest shred of evidence or proof.

I'm sorry but at times this constant charge against his PR reminds me of one of those "religious right" zealots in American politics, who make up stories about our President all the time, even when the facts fly in the face of what they are saying.

by ... Fri 14 Feb 2014, 12:48

Elementary evaluation.
Sleazy women with porn, violence, allegations, etc & vile images online. That's the main point I'm making,

Many people research a celebrity they like. Whether contemporary or past. So much info available thanks to internet.

His PR oversees his media. They promote certain image. I'm well aware.
And independent of that, the fact remains that photos of recent past girlfriends are there to nauseate anyone (including children) who looks these women up. Readily available.
PLAIN SIMPLE FACT.

by Lighterside Fri 14 Feb 2014, 12:51

We will never agree on this so let's just leave this conversation here...life's too short to waste another minute on something so nonsensical. We will have to agree to disagree.

by Joanna Fri 14 Feb 2014, 13:11

Oh dear..... lol!

Ocean....sordid images ?
Why do you looking at them if they offend you
so much then ?

How do you know about these many people in the world looking at all these sleazy, vile etc pictures ?

Have you done lots of in-depth surveys over the years ?
Can you give us links to the results ?

by Lighterside Fri 14 Feb 2014, 13:14

@Joanna....I'm beginning to suspect that she works for the NSA! LMAO (Sorry couldn't resist, their spying is in the news so often!)

by ... Fri 14 Feb 2014, 13:25

Bullying tactics again?
When someone makes a valid point and you ladies don't agree, do you start intimidating and ridiculing?
Well, my explanation is basic.
Again, since it's failing to sink in:

There are sleazy pornographic & violent photos, incriminating allegations & other compromising material READILY AVAILABLE online about the last few girlfriends George Clooney has dated.

PLAIN SIMPLE FACTS!
The internet allows immediate access to anyone who wishes to research them.

Now, it's common knowledge that people are intrigued to use search engines.

by Lighterside Fri 14 Feb 2014, 13:30

No not bullying, trying to defuse with laughter...sorry if it was at your expense, but you kind of left yourself wide open don't you think? People need to take responsibility for their own actions, isn't that what you keep saying?

by Dior Fri 14 Feb 2014, 13:34

They are just women who sell their bodies, the one or/and the other way.
And there are men like George who like to buy this meat.
No breaking news, elderly rich men are doing this since ages.

George does carry on the old image of the aging playboy, maybe he is a little bourgeois.
But: "A chaque fou sa marotte." jocolor

by LizzyNY Fri 14 Feb 2014, 13:36

Ocean - Not to offend, but perhaps you're giving more power to the PR teams than they actually have over their clients - like they did in the old days of the studio system when the stars had to do as they were told or not work. Some of today's stars (ie. Justin Bieber, Lindsay Lohan) are total train wrecks. If the PR people and the studio heads have so much power, how could this happen?

As far as children seeing George's girlfriends in inappropriate poses, I wouldn't worry too much about that. Most kids aren't anywhere near as interested in him as we are - he's way too old for them. I doubt they'd go to the trouble of looking him up online, let alone googling his girlfriends. Personally, if he's not in the picture I don't want to see it.

by melbert Fri 14 Feb 2014, 13:38

Dior wrote:But: "A chaque fou sa marotte."

you made me spit coffee Dior! hahahahaha

by Lighterside Fri 14 Feb 2014, 13:56

Dior wrote:They are just women who sell their bodies, the one or/and the other way.
And there are men like George who like to buy this meat.
No breaking news, elderly rich men are doing this since ages.

George does carry on the old image of the aging playboy, maybe he is a little bourgeois.
But: "A chaque fou sa marotte."

Exactly Dior...it's a story as old as humanity itself.

Dior wrote:But: "A chaque fou sa marotte."

LMAO! funny....

by ****** Fri 14 Feb 2014, 14:29

I do not think this behavior GC can negatively influence children and adolescents way, but I find it very strange that a man like him to be interested in that kind of woman. If he was a womanizer, even justified, but anyway, just for one night, not for a relationship for years, but when he is with these women, do not look happy, look bored, does not seem to desire them, so that on the internet there are several hints that he is gay and that they are hired. I think this should be discussed yes, he is a public figure and is subject to reviews, fans are curious yourself, at least I have.
I hope you understood what I wrote.

by mosaic Fri 14 Feb 2014, 14:34

Pari wrote:
mosaic wrote:...and as an afterthought thrown in--personally, I think porn, for my generation, has ruined so many relationships. I'm the same age as George and it just seems men of my age have no clue of how to be truly intimate with a woman....it is as if they learned all they needed to know about women through porn, making it impossible for them to connect on a spiritual level.

Just my two cents.

Thanks for that video with Ginger Lynn mosaic... sure yes, there will always be different forms of entertainment... and it ideally depends on where one is, to vouch for the right / wrong path or even recommend it for the others... Ginger and a whole world out there, believe that they are right! That they have contributed in some way to the upliftment of mankind from sadness... in their own ways, with their own reasoning etc... and then we have from them a big fat industry with lot many $$$ supporting/living out of them... where many might even term them as a "success" / "legend" etc... You are saying, "generations ruined?... relationships ruined?" Na... it is the $$$ that count for some...

Well, I have to respectfully disagree, Pari. I think the porn industry has done a bang up job of claiming to "liberate" women/people of their sexual inhibitions....it's a great marketing ploy to downplay that "ick" feeling one gets. I think the opposite is true--that being celibate gives one a sense of empowerment. You own your body and you decide who and when you will share it--not being pressured to be hopping into bed with anything that comes along. If you see sex beyond the physical and see it as connecting spiritually, as well, you can see how porn degrades that.

I totally agree about the $$$ factor. I was in college and a web technology professor got up in front of these 18-22 year olds and told them "you should invest in porn because they know how to make money." I could not believe what I was hearing. This guy also was saying that movies had to include violence to gain worldwide audience because violence sells and it was a universal "language." Yeah, well, so is peace. So...that kind of tells of the mindset. It does seem that porn and violence go together--both feed the dark side.

by ****** Fri 14 Feb 2014, 14:40

ktsue2002 wrote:Why does he dat

Yes it can, like any other Hollywood star can also, however all prefer to relate to serious women and has long-term relationshipe these women? Quite simply, ... because he can.

by mosaic Fri 14 Feb 2014, 14:41

Deborah Reis wrote:I do not think this behavior GC can negatively influence children and adolescents way, but I find it very strange that a man like him to be interested in that kind of woman. If he was a womanizer, even justified, but anyway, just for one night, not for a relationship for years, but when he is with these women, do not look happy, look bored, does not seem to desire them, so that on the internet there are several hints that he is gay and that they are hired. I think this should be discussed yes, he is a public figure and is subject to reviews, fans are curious yourself, at least I have.
I hope you understood what I wrote.

Totally agree, Deborah. I think George doesn't connect with them on a higher level other than the physical. But he has to realize that a woman who isn't like that will be independent and have her own opinions and want to live her life accordingly. I don't know if he can handle that.

And he is definitely not gay. I really wish those "accusations" would stop. I put the quotes in because it is offensive to gay folk to have to state you're not gay, as if it were some disease, but then again, you have every right to claim your own self.

by ****** Fri 14 Feb 2014, 14:45

I also do not think he's gay, but many people find, just look at comments on the internet .. God forbid Nothing against gays, but he is part of the female imaginary Laughing

by Joanna Fri 14 Feb 2014, 15:01

Speaking personally, I'm immune to any negative comments made about George. I have my own views about him which aren't influenced by anyone else's.

But I'm always intrigued by comments made by people who imply that they know what everyone else is thinking or doing.
"How do they know that"? is what I always think.

by ****** Fri 14 Feb 2014, 15:08

Today I read someone saying that he has a case of years with a hairdresser named Waldo and he has participated in several of his films. Do not know why people invent these things

by LizzyNY Fri 14 Feb 2014, 16:12

Poor Waldo! Every time the gay rumors surface someone brings up his name. Personally, I think he's just another example of George's loyalty to friends he feels he can trust. - It just struck me that the loyalty issue may be one of the reasons his relationships don't last -maybe the women are more loyal to their own agendas than they are to him. Having every woman you meet pressure you to help further her career could easily become a bore!

by Pari Fri 14 Feb 2014, 17:08

mosaic wrote:
Well, I have to respectfully disagree, Pari. I think the porn industry has done a bang up job of claiming to "liberate" women/people of their sexual inhibitions....it's a great marketing ploy to downplay that "ick" feeling one gets. I think the opposite is true--that being celibate gives one a sense of empowerment. You own your body and you decide who and when you will share it--not being pressured to be hopping into bed with anything that comes along. If you see sex beyond the physical and see it as connecting spiritually, as well, you can see how porn degrades that.

I totally agree about the $$$ factor. I was in college and a web technology professor got up in front of these 18-22 year olds and told them "you should invest in porn because they know how to make money." I could not believe what I was hearing. This guy also was saying that movies had to include violence to gain worldwide audience because violence sells and it was a universal "language." Yeah, well, so is peace. So...that kind of tells of the mindset. It does seem that porn and violence go together--both feed the dark side.

I think we disconnected someplace Smile

We are both saying the same things, but I was trying to "interpret" Ginger's world and reasoning that supports it... I salute your thoughts already I love you

by Pari Fri 14 Feb 2014, 17:18

Ocean wrote:Bullying tactics again?
When someone makes a valid point and you ladies don't agree, do you start intimidating and ridiculing?
Well, my explanation is basic.
Again, since it's failing to sink in:

There are sleazy pornographic & violent photos, incriminating allegations & other compromising material READILY AVAILABLE online about the last few girlfriends George Clooney has dated.

PLAIN SIMPLE FACTS!
The internet allows immediate access to anyone who wishes to research them.

Now, it's common knowledge that people are intrigued to use search engines.

Ooooops!! Are we constantly dwelling on George's past a lot longer than we must Ocean? I thought we spoke of "change" yesterday... how can that happen when we cannot forgive what is over and closed? Let us make space for THE NEW (whatever that is in George's world)... hopefully that will include NEW material for educating our children as well (OUCH!!) Smile

by Picachu Fri 14 Feb 2014, 18:17

Deborah Reis wrote:Today I read someone saying that he has a case of years with a hairdresser named Waldo and he has participated in several of his films. Do not know why people invent these things

I believe Waldo is actually married to a woman and has a child

by mosaic Fri 14 Feb 2014, 22:07

Pari wrote:
mosaic wrote:
Well, I have to respectfully disagree, Pari. I think the porn industry has done a bang up job of claiming to "liberate" women/people of their sexual inhibitions....it's a great marketing ploy to downplay that "ick" feeling one gets. I think the opposite is true--that being celibate gives one a sense of empowerment. You own your body and you decide who and when you will share it--not being pressured to be hopping into bed with anything that comes along. If you see sex beyond the physical and see it as connecting spiritually, as well, you can see how porn degrades that.

I totally agree about the $$$ factor. I was in college and a web technology professor got up in front of these 18-22 year olds and told them "you should invest in porn because they know how to make money." I could not believe what I was hearing. This guy also was saying that movies had to include violence to gain worldwide audience because violence sells and it was a universal "language." Yeah, well, so is peace. So...that kind of tells of the mindset. It does seem that porn and violence go together--both feed the dark side.

I think we disconnected someplace We are both saying the same things, but I was trying to "interpret" Ginger's world and reasoning that supports it... I salute your thoughts already

by Mazy Fri 14 Feb 2014, 22:24

We have discussed this gay issue to death in other threads and the conciseness was that George was not. It wouldn't matter to me if he was, I would love him anyway. Like many of us today I'm sure George has friends that are gay, and like us he love's and respects them the same as all the other friends.

As for the sick ugly comments that are on the net including twitter, I stopped reading them mostly. Sometimes one will come along that get's me and I fire back something nasty, but that's my own frustration with them. One thing I have noticed is there seems to be some of the same ones over and over again. There are many jealous mean people that think they can be cruel because of being anonymous, these are pathetic people and pay them no mind. xx

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