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Nazi-Looted Art Found In German Parliament: Report
by Mazy Sun 05 Jan 2014, 11:10
Nazi-Looted Art Found In German Parliament: Report
By Madeline Chambers | Reuters – Mon, 30 Dec, 2013
By Madeline Chambers
BERLIN (Reuters) - An art historian has found two art works stolen by the Nazis inside Germany's parliament, a newspaper reported on Monday, in a new embarrassment for authorities after a huge stash of looted art came to light last month.
The Bundestag, in a statement issued after the report in Bild newspaper, said an art historian was reviewing two "suspicious cases", but a spokesman would not confirm the find.
The art historian's investigations into the German parliament's art collection, which began in 2012, were continuing, the Bundestag spokesman said.
"It is unclear when there will be a result to the investigations," he said.
Last month German authorities revealed that a trove of Nazi-looted art, valued at 1 billion euros ($1.38 billion), had been found in a Munich apartment.
That collection had been held for decades by Cornelius Gurlitt, the elderly son of an art dealer of part-Jewish descent who was ordered by Hitler to buy up so-called 'degenerate art' and sell it to raise funds for the Nazis.
Bild newspaper said one of the two works discovered in the Bundestag collection had also originally belonged to the Gurlitt family.
Bild said the two works were an oil painting, 'Chancellor Buelow speaking in the Reichstag', by Georg Waltenberger dated 1905, and a chalk lithography entitled 'Street in Koenigsberg' by Lovis Corinth.
The Nazis plundered hundreds of thousands of art works from museums and individuals across Europe. An unknown number of works is still missing and museums around the world have conducted investigations into the origins of their exhibits.
German authorities came under fire for keeping quiet for two years about the discovery of Gurlitt's trove of 1,406 European art works which included works by Picasso and Matisse.
The legal status of the hoard is unclear. Gurlitt has demanded his art back and lawyers working on reclaiming property for heirs to Jewish collectors say he may get to keep at least some.
The Bundestag's art collection comprises around 4,000 works and Bild said investigations had found some 108 pieces so far of unknown provenance.
About four years ago, it returned a portrait of former German chancellor Otto von Bismarck in a hat by Franz von Lenbach to its original owners after it was found to have been stolen by the Nazis.
The Central Council of Jews in Germany called for a list of the Bundestag's art works to be published.
"If the Bundestag is keeping lists of its collection secret, hindering the press in its investigations, protecting the perpetrators of Ayranization and not informing the heirs, I would wish those responsible to show more sensibility and tact," Council President Dieter Graumann told Bild.
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(Reporting by Madeline Chambers; Editing by Susan Fenton)
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By Madeline Chambers | Reuters – Mon, 30 Dec, 2013
By Madeline Chambers
BERLIN (Reuters) - An art historian has found two art works stolen by the Nazis inside Germany's parliament, a newspaper reported on Monday, in a new embarrassment for authorities after a huge stash of looted art came to light last month.
The Bundestag, in a statement issued after the report in Bild newspaper, said an art historian was reviewing two "suspicious cases", but a spokesman would not confirm the find.
The art historian's investigations into the German parliament's art collection, which began in 2012, were continuing, the Bundestag spokesman said.
"It is unclear when there will be a result to the investigations," he said.
Last month German authorities revealed that a trove of Nazi-looted art, valued at 1 billion euros ($1.38 billion), had been found in a Munich apartment.
That collection had been held for decades by Cornelius Gurlitt, the elderly son of an art dealer of part-Jewish descent who was ordered by Hitler to buy up so-called 'degenerate art' and sell it to raise funds for the Nazis.
Bild newspaper said one of the two works discovered in the Bundestag collection had also originally belonged to the Gurlitt family.
Bild said the two works were an oil painting, 'Chancellor Buelow speaking in the Reichstag', by Georg Waltenberger dated 1905, and a chalk lithography entitled 'Street in Koenigsberg' by Lovis Corinth.
The Nazis plundered hundreds of thousands of art works from museums and individuals across Europe. An unknown number of works is still missing and museums around the world have conducted investigations into the origins of their exhibits.
German authorities came under fire for keeping quiet for two years about the discovery of Gurlitt's trove of 1,406 European art works which included works by Picasso and Matisse.
The legal status of the hoard is unclear. Gurlitt has demanded his art back and lawyers working on reclaiming property for heirs to Jewish collectors say he may get to keep at least some.
The Bundestag's art collection comprises around 4,000 works and Bild said investigations had found some 108 pieces so far of unknown provenance.
About four years ago, it returned a portrait of former German chancellor Otto von Bismarck in a hat by Franz von Lenbach to its original owners after it was found to have been stolen by the Nazis.
The Central Council of Jews in Germany called for a list of the Bundestag's art works to be published.
"If the Bundestag is keeping lists of its collection secret, hindering the press in its investigations, protecting the perpetrators of Ayranization and not informing the heirs, I would wish those responsible to show more sensibility and tact," Council President Dieter Graumann told Bild.
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(Reporting by Madeline Chambers; Editing by Susan Fenton)
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Re: Nazi-Looted Art Found In German Parliament: Report
by What Would He Say Sun 05 Jan 2014, 12:14
@Mazy ...thanks yet again...x
Where Berlin? That will make the the film festival interesting.....
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Re: Nazi-Looted Art Found In German Parliament: Report
by silly girl Sun 05 Jan 2014, 12:44
Yes very interesting...thanks....maybe pushing the film out wasn't a bad idea,,,,,
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Re: Nazi-Looted Art Found In German Parliament: Report
by Nicky80 Sun 05 Jan 2014, 12:49
Yes Berlin. The art was found in the government building. The statement said two "suspicious cases"..... So nothing is confirmed yet. Still investigating. I think they do the investigation because one of the two arts originally belonged to the Gurlitt family. The old guy from Munich where the big art found was made. I guess they just want to make sure where those 2 pictures are coming from.
I don't think this find makes the film festival interesting. It is interesting for MM that's all. Which is still great. But I don't think they will use this case if nothing gets confirmed.
I don't think this find makes the film festival interesting. It is interesting for MM that's all. Which is still great. But I don't think they will use this case if nothing gets confirmed.
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Re: Nazi-Looted Art Found In German Parliament: Report
by What Would He Say Sun 05 Jan 2014, 12:56
@Nicky @silly girl
I meant interesting as in timing (as SG says in post above).
Timing is everything ....... BUT could there be more to come ...
YOU COULDN'T WRITE IT, BUT THEN THEY DID.
I meant interesting as in timing (as SG says in post above).
Timing is everything ....... BUT could there be more to come ...
YOU COULDN'T WRITE IT, BUT THEN THEY DID.
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Re: Nazi-Looted Art Found In German Parliament: Report
by Nicky80 Sun 05 Jan 2014, 13:03
Yep the timing is great. I'm sure there is more to come. that's what the prosecutors in Munich were saying when the big art found was made in Munich. The investigation is big and we just experience this with the article above as one of those art originally belonged to the family in Munich.
I think they starting to track down all the art work from the family even if it's not anymore in they possession to investigate if it's stolen art or not. So for sure much more to come
I think they starting to track down all the art work from the family even if it's not anymore in they possession to investigate if it's stolen art or not. So for sure much more to come
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Re: Nazi-Looted Art Found In German Parliament: Report
by What Would He Say Sun 05 Jan 2014, 13:10
@NICKY
I gave you a greeny Nicky... it's great to have someone with a point of view from inside a Country ... Keep us informed, your post's are always interesting.
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Re: Nazi-Looted Art Found In German Parliament: Report
by it's me Sun 05 Jan 2014, 22:30
hope G will still be welcomed there
anyway not his fault
he only made a film about a book
which wrote something REAL
anyway not his fault
he only made a film about a book
which wrote something REAL
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Re: Nazi-Looted Art Found In German Parliament: Report
by What Would He Say Sun 05 Jan 2014, 22:43
Ahhh, IM .... now here's a thought what if.....
He made a documentary short about making a film (MM) about the book (MM) and subsequent hooha. They need not edit it until as late as possible this year - 18 December as before -(take advantage of further revelations). That way enter YET ANOTHER CATEGORY AT 2015 OSCARS...which would also act as a timely reminder for MM in catagories already talked of ....
Hope I haven't confused everyone again....
He made a documentary short about making a film (MM) about the book (MM) and subsequent hooha. They need not edit it until as late as possible this year - 18 December as before -(take advantage of further revelations). That way enter YET ANOTHER CATEGORY AT 2015 OSCARS...which would also act as a timely reminder for MM in catagories already talked of ....
Hope I haven't confused everyone again....
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Re: Nazi-Looted Art Found In German Parliament: Report
by it's me Sun 05 Jan 2014, 22:49
he made a documentary to enter the documentary category in 2015 Oscar race?
you a spy?
you a spy?
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Re: Nazi-Looted Art Found In German Parliament: Report
by What Would He Say Sun 05 Jan 2014, 22:58
No no no.... just my imagination.... it's not real .... x
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Re: Nazi-Looted Art Found In German Parliament: Report
by Mazy Sun 05 Jan 2014, 23:40
That's what they did with "From Dusk to Dawn." They made "Full Tilt Boogie." about the making of FDTD.
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Re: Nazi-Looted Art Found In German Parliament: Report
by it's me Sun 05 Jan 2014, 23:55
it was nice
if I remember well
but Oscar worthy?
if I remember well
but Oscar worthy?
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Re: Nazi-Looted Art Found In German Parliament: Report
by What Would He Say Mon 06 Jan 2014, 01:41
This is about the an almost forgotten true story, coming back to life because of an authur and a couple of curious film makers and how serendipidy brought everything together and into sharp focus at exactly the right time.
Though, everybodies business looks easy from the outside. What do I know about documentaries or movies, but to me, it cries out to be made.
NO no dumb idea ... I think it is considered "Down Market" for movie makers to do shorts ... Can't see Mr Clooney doing anything "low rent" ... OMG NO !
Though, everybodies business looks easy from the outside. What do I know about documentaries or movies, but to me, it cries out to be made.
NO no dumb idea ... I think it is considered "Down Market" for movie makers to do shorts ... Can't see Mr Clooney doing anything "low rent" ... OMG NO !
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Re: Nazi-Looted Art Found In German Parliament: Report
by it's me Mon 06 Jan 2014, 08:56
so your idea about last news
good! let him know
good! let him know
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Re: Nazi-Looted Art Found In German Parliament: Report
by What Would He Say Mon 06 Jan 2014, 11:53
No, I am sure he is totally booked up 'till 2020
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Re: Nazi-Looted Art Found In German Parliament: Report
by it's me Mon 06 Jan 2014, 13:49
2020
busy with his job?
puke
busy with his job?
puke
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Re: Nazi-Looted Art Found In German Parliament: Report
by party animal - not! Wed 08 Jan 2014, 19:57
This should probably go alongside all this info.
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Re: Nazi-Looted Art Found In German Parliament: Report
by it's me Wed 08 Jan 2014, 20:52
link doesn't work :/
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by party animal - not! Wed 08 Jan 2014, 21:04
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Re: Nazi-Looted Art Found In German Parliament: Report
by it's me Wed 08 Jan 2014, 21:10
great
thanks!
thanks!
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Re: Nazi-Looted Art Found In German Parliament: Report
by Mazy Thu 09 Jan 2014, 01:43
PAN I put the article from your link in a new thread thanks.
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