Re: Amal Alamuddin and her work

by theminis Fri 20 Jun 2014, 04:08

Way2Old4Dis wrote:Remember, at the beginning of this whole thing, back when Assange was still pretending to be the ethical warrior, he supposedly turned over the documents to assure their integrity and to vet the release of the information so that they were used for informational purposes only.

Then, he got into it with the very man he chose to protect and vet the documents because the guy redacted some information from a release, due to national security fears. Assange tore him a new one, and threatened to release the redacted information himself -- though he's not supposed to personally hold any.

Now he's essentially threatening to blackmail the President and the Attorney General of the United States, with documents he's not supposed to have and counter to the process of the man to whom the documents are entrusted.

The man is an arrogant liar. He throws tantrums when he doesn't get his way; only his tantrums include disclosing state secrets.

I have the feeling that all that would have to happen is that Assange gets his feelings hurt because Amal is getting more attention in the case than he is, or that the press wants Amal/George more than Amal/Julian, and he'd fire her ass.

Of course, he's more likely to use her notoriety to shine the spotlight on his honorable deeds.

Think he needs to re-read the definition of the word ethical for a start, infuriating and for some reason I cannot fathom has his share of supporters too!!

by The next mrs clooney Fri 20 Jun 2014, 09:38

From what I understand she is only representing him with regards to his extradition to Sweden and not any other parts of his case.

by party animal - not! Fri 20 Jun 2014, 10:08

correct..........

by Joanna Fri 20 Jun 2014, 11:17

I like the facts too !

by LizzyNY Fri 20 Jun 2014, 12:17

Thanks to The Next Mrs Clooney for the info. Does anyone know how law chambers choose who to assign to their cases? Do they assign people based solely on their legal expertise, or do lawyers choose the cases they want to work on?

I'm curious whether Amal chose the legal path she's on, or if she works on these types of high profile cases because they were assigned to her by her bosses.

by party animal - not! Fri 20 Jun 2014, 12:23

Well, she'll be working in a team of people - just the number of law tomes for such a case would be more than for just one person!

And as she's a relative junior i e she's not a QC or Judge it would be unlikely that she alone would choose - and obviously they would play to her strengths e g fluent in Arabic and French for one

by LizzyNY Fri 20 Jun 2014, 12:39

Thanks PAN. It just seems that she is best known for defending the rights of people most of us would consider international criminals. Is that the specialty of Doughty Chambers? I'm just trying to reconcile her practice with her reputation as a humanitarian. Did she choose this path to build her legal reputation and bankroll, or is it just a result of working where she does?

I'm trying very hard to like her, but her professional choices keep getting in the way.

by The next mrs clooney Fri 20 Jun 2014, 14:36

the QC's will usually ask the Junior barristers to work on a case with them based on their specific area of expertise. And I guess if you really want to progress in your career you probably shouldn't say no when they have specifically asked you.

by Way2Old4Dis Fri 20 Jun 2014, 14:48

From what I can tell, Amal sits/has served on some commissions and task forces that have humanitarian goals, but she's been on the 'humanitarian' side of only one big-issue legal case. So it comes down to a matter of marketing. She has things she can point to that depict her as 'humanitarian' and a 'human rights activist.'

'Defender of due process for those who commit crimes against humanity' doesn't have the same ring to it.

by party animal - not! Fri 20 Jun 2014, 15:21

Well, if you look at her cv, and see that among other things, she trains the Bahraini police force how to treat people with humanity and similar projects ( I ought to look it up again really) you can see that what we've been fed so far is the controversial stuff that creates headlines (shock, horror - who would have thought!!), but I get the impression that she's a much more rounded person than that.........apart from the fact that I'm not a lawyer and have no ideas about the complexity of it all.

Do we really think that Our Hero has fallen in love with someone without principles?

by The next mrs clooney Fri 20 Jun 2014, 15:41

50% of the work done by her chambers is legal aid and pro bono work. In order to allow them to do this they have to take on very high paying clients. The more notorious the client the higher it will pay. If she actually defended the clients in a way that was trying to get them off despite what they had done I would have more of an issue, but if you read about her role in each case she seems to be fighting for them to get a fair trial and have the same laws applied to them as everyone else.

And I agree PAN I don't believe that George would fall for someone who stood for the exact opposite to what he believes so strongly in.

by Way2Old4Dis Fri 20 Jun 2014, 15:42

She doesn't train anybody. She's probably helped in writing the guidelines. That would be one of the task forces on which she has served.

Of course, she has principles. Some of them are suspect, from where I sit. But then, I'm not the one in love with her. Love is blind, especially during the infatuation stage.

by Way2Old4Dis Fri 20 Jun 2014, 15:47

The ends doesn't justify the means.

If she has a true 'humanitarian' belief system, she doesn't serve it well by defending perpetrators of heinous crimes so the firm can pay its bills.

by party animal - not! Fri 20 Jun 2014, 16:11

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I rest my case, M'Lud

Who is Amal Alamuddin? The British lawyer who has tamed George Clooney

As an Oxford graduate, humanitarian lawyer and adviser to the UN, Amal Alamuddin might seem an unlikely match for one of Hollywood’s most eligible men.

But George Clooney has reportedly put a string of supermodels and actresses behind him and proposed to the British lawyer whose life is a world away from the glitz of celebrity life.
Miss Alamuddin, 36, has carved out an impressive career for herself as a high flying lawyer working out of London’s Doughty Street Chambers.

Born in Beirut, Lebanon, and fluent in both French and Arabic, Miss Alamuddin studied at St Hugh’s College at Oxford University before going to the New York University School of Law.
After graduating she passed the New York Bar in 2002 and the Bar of England and Wales (Inner Temple) in 2012.

She now specialises in international law, human rights, extradition, and criminal law and has represented Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder, in his battle against extradition to Sweden.
She also advises governments on international law, is an adviser on Syria to The UN Special Envoy Kofi Annan, and is Counsel to the Inquiry into the use of drones in counter terrorism operations.
She also assisted the Presiding Judge, Judge Patrick Robinson, on trial of Slobodan Milosevic and is a legal adviser to the King of Bahrain.

According to her chambers entry, she has represented clients before the International Criminal Court, the International Court of Justice and the European Court of Human Rights, as well as in domestic courts in the UK and US.

She also trains judges, state officials and UN investigators on international criminal law and human rights and has trained police forces in the Gulf.

On top of her busy work schedule, Miss Alamuddin has contributed to many books on international criminal law, co-edited The Law and Practice of the Special Tribunal for Lebanon, and lectured at SOAS, The New School in New York, The Hague Academy of International Law, and the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill.

Although her life may seem a far cry from the glittering Showbusiness world Clooney inhabits, the pair are known to have things in common.

Like Miss Alamuddin, Clooney has long shown interest in human rights issues, most notably the humanitarian crisis in Darfur.

And neither are strangers to flattery – while Clooney may be seen as one of the most eligible men in the world, Miss Alamuddin has been voted the hottest barrister in London by the blog Your Barrister Boyfriend.

by Way2Old4Dis Fri 20 Jun 2014, 16:21

Proving what?

Never mind. This is one of those stalemate matters. You like and apparently admire her. I think she may be a perfectly "lovely" person, as people have described her, but think she's unfairly getting accolades as a "humanitarian" when her professional activities include so many cases that are so obviously not.

by PigPen Fri 20 Jun 2014, 16:23

Although her life may seem a far cry from the glittering Showbusiness world Clooney inhabits, the pair are known to have things in common.
Like Miss Alamuddin, Clooney has long shown interest in human rights issues, most notably the humanitarian crisis in Darfur.
And neither are strangers to flattery – while Clooney may be seen as one of the most eligible men in the world, Miss Alamuddin has been voted the hottest barrister in London by the blog Your Barrister Boyfriend. Humanitarian work, maybe. The need for flattery ought to keep this relationship afloat. sarcasm

The first word that comes to mind is needy.

by PigPen Fri 20 Jun 2014, 16:31

After reading my post, I don't think I explained myself well. The point I am trying to express is, okay, they have the humanitarian thing going for them. I'll give them that. But what else is there? Her work can be, at time, questionable. He can have a short fuse when defending his stand on politics ( don't criticize the Prez to him!). Yeah, none of my business, and opposites do make strange bedfellows... but is it known to go the distance? Odd thought- are they actually looking for happily ever after? There's a new line in civil marriages here at my end of the forest. Instead of til death do us part, it says as long as it serves the common good. Not allowed in church services.

by party animal - not! Fri 20 Jun 2014, 16:37

Way2, I don't know her to either like or admire her, but I just found the article saying she had trained judges, and police forces in the Gulf......that's all

And I think she must have worked bloody hard to get where she is

by Way2Old4Dis Fri 20 Jun 2014, 17:26

Yeah, but so have millions of other women. Working hard at a career doesn't make her exceptional.

My point is, if the "working hard" includes taking cases that go against your values as a "humanitarian," then are you justified in calling yourself a "human rights activist?" I would say 'no.' You don't eat from the hand that's pounding the life out of the 'humans' you say you want to help.

by party animal - not! Fri 20 Jun 2014, 17:41

Mm, well I don't feel I have enough knowledge about human rights international law and how cases are allocated and extrapolated to have a view,.

And if I did, it would only be with the very limited information I see in news articles, so I think my judgement might be a bit skewed.

May be a bit biased, tho, Way, 'cos she's a local girl done good.......

by PigPen Fri 20 Jun 2014, 18:15

party animal - not! wrote:Well, since Our Hero doesn't want to get married anyway, there is no issue!

Nice twitter pic at conference here:

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Those were the days!!!!~

by party animal - not! Fri 20 Jun 2014, 18:29

Mm, I remember finding that, when the rumours started. And then I noticed those beautiful earrings, and wondered.............

by PigPen Fri 20 Jun 2014, 18:31

wondered what?????

by Joanna Fri 20 Jun 2014, 18:43

Plenty of bed time reading here about Human Rights International Law.

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by LizzyNY Fri 20 Jun 2014, 23:14

I'm sorry if my questions about her started any disagreements. I'm still just trying to figure her out. I AM impressed by her career and her intellect. She has to be pretty smart to have gotten where she is - and not just book-smart. She seems, like George, to know just what to do to further her career. Something else they have in common.

by PigPen Sat 21 Jun 2014, 15:49

So, is getting engaged to George knowing just what to do to further her career? And vice verse, perhaps. Not being flip, just asking. I'm as bewildered as you are Lizzy. There's something about her facial expression when she is photographed ( at a symposium or walking with a latte in her hand) that says this is all part of a bigger plan than just nailing a movie star. As if to say I could have had anyone famous- but I got him, deal with it!

by fava Sat 21 Jun 2014, 16:01

PigPen wrote:So, is getting engaged to George knowing just what to do to further her career? And vice verse, perhaps. Not being flip, just asking. I'm as bewildered as you are Lizzy. There's something about her facial expression when she is photographed ( at a symposium or walking with a latte in her hand) that says this is all part of a bigger plan than just nailing a movie star. As if to say I could have had anyone famous- but I got him, deal with it!

I don't thing getting married furthers either of their careers. It might bring her more name recognition, but Hollywood does not impart any credentials or gravitas, which is what you need in her field. The only possibility that I see is that some might hire her to bring more publicity to their cause. Not sure how it helps George's career either. Won't even put the gay rumors to rest as many married actors have had those rumors going around (Travolta, Cruise)

Could it be they are doing it for reasons that have nothing to do with their careers?

by Joanna Sat 21 Jun 2014, 17:26

Oh yes indeed fava ! Thumbs up!

by Cece42 Sat 21 Jun 2014, 18:11

I have to agree with PigPen about her facial expressions, to me it is a smug look, and not just because she is engaged to George, she has had that look from the very beginning.

by LizzyNY Sat 21 Jun 2014, 18:48

Her parents (as they should) think she's wonderful. Her bosses think she's brilliant. Everyone who knows her that has been interviewed thinks she's super-special.

If she's been hearing that all her life it's no wonder she looks smug. Let's hope, for George's sake, she doesn't believe it all.

by Atalante Sat 21 Jun 2014, 21:03

She izzzzzzzzz smug. Cool

by Katiedot Tue 24 Jun 2014, 16:23

She's a barrister. It's the only profession that makes surgeons look humble.

by PigPen Tue 24 Jun 2014, 16:51

I didn't know that about barristers. And surgeons believe they are God. Oh this is going to be fun, as George tends to need extra reassurance from time to time ( look at the bonus feature of The Descendants and Men Who Stare At Goats), and she's god-like. rollingsmiley

by Silje Tue 24 Jun 2014, 17:50

Is Amal still working for Julian Assange?

His Swedish lawyers are requesting that the Stockholm District court shall revoke the dentention order.

Perhaps this means that the Swedish prosecutor has to go to London to interrogate him. She has so far refused to do so.

Maybee this would mean work for Amal?

by Nicky80 Mon 30 Jun 2014, 19:32

This was found by Miss Sunshine, thank you Give Flowers

. Looks like Amal will be in the Hague in September????

Doughty Street International to open in The Hague

A civil liberties set currently representing jailed former Liberian president Charles Taylor (pictured) is to become the first chambers to open an office in The Hague, Netherlands.

From September, Doughty Street International will be headed by John Jones QC. It will be based in the centre of The Hague, just a five-minute walk from the International Court of Justice.

The office will provide support facilities for those members of chambers with practices in The Hague, some of whom are permanently based there, as well as serving as a centre for seminars and research.

Jones and associate tenant Dr Guenael Mettraux will be based in The Hague full-time, and the premises will act has home to others including Sir Keir Starmer QC, Wayne Jordash QC and Amal Alamuddin who will have cases at the International Court of Justice.

Jones currently have two cases there – representing Saif Gaddafi before the International Criminal Court and Mustafa Badreddine before the Special Tribunal for Lebanon.   He is also representing former Liberian President Charles Taylor in proceedings before the Residual Special Court for Sierra Leone.  
Taylor, who was sentenced by the UN-backed tribunal to a 50-year prison sentence in Britain has taken a legal action seeking his removal to an African jail arguing that he is being deprived of his right to a family life. He was convicted two years ago for aiding and abetting war crimes and crimes against humanity.
Jones has been counsel in five cases before the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia notably in the acquittals of Croatian general Mladen Markac and the Bosnian commander in Stebrenica, Naser Oric.

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It's on their website too

Doughty Street International – The Hague

Doughty Street International - The Hague (DSI-TH) will be the first set of barristers' chambers to have an office in The Hague, the capital of international law. The opening of an office in The Hague is a logical extension of Doughty Street's international law practice, which sees some members of chambers permanently based in The Hague with others regularly travelling there to appear before the many international courts and tribunals based in The Hague. DSI-TH will provide support facilities for those members of chambers with practices in The Hague, as well as serving as a centre for seminars, research and other initiatives.

From September 2014, DSI-TH's offices will be headed up by John Jones QC, the head of Doughty Street International.

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by Pita428 Mon 30 Jun 2014, 20:46

I would think that Amal would fall under the category of "others regularly travelling there. I'm not sure she would have even been mentioned in the article if she weren't linked to George. She is the only non-QC listed.

by party animal - not! Wed 02 Jul 2014, 21:44

Dated yesterday........

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by Way2Old4Dis Sun 06 Jul 2014, 21:17

Julian Assange has a court hearing (prosecutors vs his criminal defense team) in the sexual assault case coming up on July 16th.

So if it's true that George and Amal are in the midst of planning a September wedding (I have my doubts), this prelude to more movement on his case might be a hitch in their plans, because there's a chance her services will be needed in the extradition case around the same time.

by party animal - not! Sun 06 Jul 2014, 21:33

I don't think it's the only case on her books by far at the moment.

Her July 2 joint statement from Chambers on the Egyptian situation wasn't exactly a couple of minutes' work in the office!

by LizzyNY Sun 06 Jul 2014, 22:12

If she was able to clear her schedule to go on vacation, she should be able to clear it for her wedding! If she postpones the wedding for work, George should start questioning her priorities. Honestly, would you ditch your wedding (to anyone, and especially to George) to represent a creep like Assange?

by Nicky80 Sun 06 Jul 2014, 22:21

Well I think vacation and court cases are two different things. You can move vacation around but court cases are set.

And so far nobody confirmed that the wedding is in September this was made up by the press and confirmed by "sources". We do not know if this is true. If there is no wedding in September it doesn't mean she postponed the wedding because of work.....

And let's say it is in September and Amal would postpone the wedding because of her work. Maybe George likes her priorities that's why he wants her Very Happy

I'm sure he is aware of her schedule.

Whatever it is...I think in this kind of Job you know when you are needed and have time to get married......So I'm sure George and Amal have it well planed.

by Way2Old4Dis Sun 06 Jul 2014, 22:35

LizzyNY wrote:If she was able to clear her schedule to go on vacation, she should be able to clear it for her wedding! If she postpones the wedding for work, George should start questioning her priorities. Honestly, would you ditch your wedding (to anyone, and especially to George) to represent a creep like Assange?

I'd never represent a creep like Assange.

That's where Amal and I differ.

That, and the fact that she's thin. She's thin, and she represents Julian Assange. That's how we're different.

And she has olive skin. She's olive-skinned, she's thin, and she's a lawyer for Assange.

Oh, and she likes high heels. High heels, skin, thin, and Assange. We're different that way.

The hair. She has long flowing hair, olive skin, she likes heels, she's thin, and she's a shill for Julian Assange.

And engaged to George Fucking Clooney. Amal has long, shimmering hair, olive skin, she likes do-me shoes, she's skinny as a rail, she sold out to be a mouthpiece for asshole Assange, and she gets to be Mrs. Fucking Clooney.

That's where we're different.

by Nicky80 Sun 06 Jul 2014, 22:42

So not a big difference then. You can beat her qualities easily Thumbs up!

by melbert Sun 06 Jul 2014, 23:08

Hey Way2, were you looking in MY mirror? affraid

hahahaha

by LizzyNY Sun 06 Jul 2014, 23:46

Way2Old -

Other than that you could pass for twins, right?

by Alisonfan Mon 07 Jul 2014, 00:20

Way and Amal were separated at birth. Obviously.
Like Kane and Able, Way and Amal.

by LornaDoone Mon 07 Jul 2014, 00:23

LMAO

I agree she's thin and has long, shimmering, flowing hair and she's going to be Mrs. George Clooney who gets to fuck him whenever she wants (or can fit on her SHEH DULE)

Yea I can't stand her either! brahahahaha

by Alisonfan Mon 07 Jul 2014, 00:46

Mmmmm, whenever she wants, she has to make it up the aisle first.
In the words of the great Queen B, "you should have put a ring on it" She was referring to "wedding ring".
Ref; Queen B's Mrs Carter Tour. (which includes snips from WEDDNG).

by bgarabedian Mon 07 Jul 2014, 08:09

it still looks like the wedding is on unless they change plans. I George is too much blinded by this amal and whatever she does, whom she defends is ok with him. I think he will learn later as time goes by and realize this person might not be the best choice for him. Anyway I wish him happiness, love, & a good life. bg

by Joanna Tue 08 Jul 2014, 23:55

Apologies if this video has been posted before.

The independence of the judiciary in Egypt
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3 months ago NOT YET RATED

Amal Alamuddin, rapporteur for the International Bar Association's Human Rights Institute 2014 report entitled 'Separating Law and Politics' on the lack of
independence of the judiciary in Egypt

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