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South Sudan: A New Country's Growing Pains

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South Sudan: A New Country's Growing Pains

Post by Guest on Thu Aug 18 2011, 17:14


Copyrights issues, couldn't paste the article. More evidence...

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Post by cindigirl on Thu Aug 18 2011, 17:50

I suppose "growing pains" come naturally. Our country went through it re. Revolutionary War, Civil War. I just hate seeing the violence against the poor African pheasants.

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Post by pattygirl on Thu Aug 18 2011, 18:12

Not to be too picky, but you're worried about violence against poor African pheasants[i]. Don't think they have pheasants in Sudan but if it gave peasants food to eat, how bad could the violence be. Sorry I just couldn't resist.

Even today in this country, we have not enough food and clean water for some. And our government doesn't always work for the good of its people and they sure pocket $$ too. They always manage to give themselves raises while claiming they can't give veterans and seniors COLA increases so they can continue to live.

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Post by cindigirl on Thu Aug 18 2011, 18:20

Sorry for the misspelling. No, I didn't mean birds, I meant people in
villages.

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Post by cindigirl on Thu Aug 18 2011, 18:28

Patty quote:
"They always manage to give themselves raises while claiming they can't give veterans and seniors COLA increases so they can continue to live."

I heard there's going to be a "small" increase in COLA, I think, next year.


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Post by pattygirl on Thu Aug 18 2011, 18:31

I knew that. Just couldn't resist. Am I forgiven?

On the COLA - from your lips to God's ears!

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Post by cindigirl on Thu Aug 18 2011, 18:37

You are definitely forgiven my sweet patty. I heard about the increase a few months ago and haven't heard that they won't. I'm not sure, but I think because the Republicans got their way with the debt crisis the Medicare and SS wil not be touched. At least for now.

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Post by Guest on Thu Aug 18 2011, 18:59

Well, one thing I can say… We didn’t have another country so close trying to disrupt our “infrastructure edifice” right after our independence. Our “adversaries” were across the pond, so to speak, not across the line. That makes it even harder to contend with.

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Re: South Sudan: A New Country's Growing Pains

Post by Guest on Wed Aug 24 2011, 13:43

Satellites Confirm Sudanese Red Crescent Burial of Body Bags in Mass Graves
WASHINGTON – The Satellite Sentinel Project (SSP) has confirmed the burial of human remains, some of them in body bags or tarps, through a series of DigitalGlobe satellite images taken of two newly discovered mass grave sites in Sudan’s restive South Kordofan region. The addition of the two new mass graves brings the total discovered by SSP to eight.

The Sudanese Red Crescent Society (SRCS) excavated mass graves and filled them with corpses in South Kordofan, according to evidence gathered by SSP. The evidence includes eyewitness reports obtained by SSP, and statements from the SRCS, substantiated by DigitalGlobe satellite imagery. In addition, SSP’s report includes an official SRCS photo of the body disposal team, and notes that SRCS pre-positioned at least 415 body bags and 2,000 plastic tarps in South Kordofan before the fighting began.

Acting on instructions from the State of South Kordofan, the SRCS used an excavator to dig and cover large pits. In some cases, eyewitnesses reported, SRCS workers poured fuel on dead bodies and set them on fire.

The US government has stated in the July 20 edition of The Washington Post, “What they identify as body bags, we see those same items in those same places before the fighting started.” The US government has released no eyewitness report or imagery in support of its assertion.

SSP’s report states: “SSP has determined, though, that these same items were not present in those same places on 7 June or 17 June or 20 July. Since the 14 July report, SSP has published reports from additional eyewitnesses who have seen corpses wrapped in what appear to be white body bags or white plastic tarps. And satellite imagery shows the dumping and subsequent burials of what appear to be white bundles of human dimensions, wrapped in some sort of tarps, and bent in the shapes of the letters ‘C’ or ‘J,’ consistent with human bodies bent at the waist or knees, on a remote, wooded mountainside.”

Enough Project Co-founder John Prendergast said:

“The evidence against the Sudanese government continues to compound and has now become impossible to dismiss. It is time for the international community to take serious action and execute its responsibility to protect innocent lives in Sudan.”


Mireikha Aldow Mireikha (top, left), Executive Director of the South Kordofan
branch of the Sudanese Red Crescent Society, with the corpse disposal team
in South Kordofan on 27 June 2011. Credit: SRCS

An official SRCS photo taken on June 27 shows the executive director for the organization’s South Kordofan branch, Mireikha Aldow Mireikha, with members of the SRCS body disposal team, some of whom are wearing masks or gloves. Sudanese media has quoted South Kordofan Governor Ahmed Haroun, who is wanted by the ICC on charges of genocide in Darfur, as saying that he instructed the SRCS to dispose of the bodies.

SSP's report states:

"Eyewitnesses have described to SSP seeing a yellow front-end loader with a backhoe digging mass graves in and around Kadugli at sites in which an SRCS Land Cruiser and SRCS workers were also present. One eyewitness described a yellow excavator digging two pits at a site where men dressed in a manner consistent with SRCS workers subsequently threw bodies into the pits. These eyewitness reports, obtained by SSP, are consistent with a statement to the press by the executive director of the South Kordofan branch of SCRS that the locality of Kadugli provided the SRCS corpse management team with 'a loader for excavation.' "

The SSP report also shows what appears to be a yellow front-end loader with a backhoe, less than a kilometer from an apparent mass grave, consistent with what eyewitnesses reported to SSP.


Dr. Charlie Clements, Executive Director of the Harvard Carr Center, said:

“While the US and other members of the UN Security Council continue to debate how to respond, the debate over the existence of body bags and mass graves in and around Kadugli is now over. The Satellite Sentinel Project has irrefutably confirmed that the Sudanese Red Crescent Society has dug mass graves and filled them with large numbers of corpses in body bags or tarps, following reports of systematic mass killing by the Government of Sudan.”

In addition, SSP has confirmed UN reports of six Government of Sudan security checkpoints on roads in and around South Kordofan’s capital of Kadugli.

Physicians for Human Rights (PHR) has reviewed the recent Satellite Sentinel Project (SSP) imagery of alleged mass graves in Sudan. According to the review by Stefan Schmitt, director of PHR’s International Forensic Program, the images provide credible evidence of possible mass graves and require a full and comprehensive forensic investigation.

“To help determine the nature of mass graves, we need to know if the victims were soldiers or civilians and how and why they died. Proper exhumations and examinations would give us this information. PHR is prepared to provide forensic experts in support of an independent investigation into mass graves in South Sudan,” said Schmitt.

Links to SSP Reports, Interactive Map, and DigitalGlobe Satellite Imagery

Read the new SSP Special Report, “Evidence of the Burial of Human Remains in Kadugli”: http://www.satsentinel.org/report/special-report-evidence-burial-human-remains-kadugli-south-kordofan

View or download the DigitalGlobe satellite imagery:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/enoughproject/sets/72157627379645553/

View SSP’s interactive map, showing the locations of alleged mass graves in and around Kadugli:
http://bit.ly/o5SkEB


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Re: South Sudan: A New Country's Growing Pains

Post by Guest on Wed Aug 31 2011, 01:22

More mass graves found bringing the alleged number to eight. This is what I was afraid of... It "looks" like the Sudan government will allow the UN to enter South Kordofan to investigate but… the Sudan Government are ramrodding the search. -Keep the eye in the sky, George! Those guys are sneaky! Read the story at the link below:

Copyright issues – http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2011/08/mass-graves-and-george-clooney.html

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Post by it's me on Thu Feb 09 2012, 21:26

they are still in pain

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Post by Cinderella on Thu Feb 09 2012, 21:48

Thanks, It's Me!

I keep up on all the reading. It's a terrible thing going on in Sudan but there are some good reports out there, too! We have to stay on top of it and stay aware of everything. I think it would help if the separate tribal leaders would come together and talk about the "happenings" so they could be better prepared when the "enemy" comes but it seems they even have trouble meeting. How to change this? I've been trying to think of a reason that would touch each fraction but haven't been able to. Since I've never been there, it's kind of hard. And, who knows, this might have already been tried to no avail.

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Post by it's me on Thu Feb 09 2012, 22:09

already tried to no avail?

this is really sad
REALLY REALLY SAD.......

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