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Post by party animal - not! on Wed 06 Feb 2019, 18:11

For all those who've been wondering, according to this move-ins started this month........

https://ny.curbed.com/maps/nyc-architecture-hudson-yards-woolworth-building


https://100e53.com/

Theirs is on the second link


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Post by ladybugcngc on Wed 06 Feb 2019, 18:17

Theirs !!!  bounce
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Post by LizzyNY on Wed 06 Feb 2019, 23:02

Thanks, PAN. I was wondering when the building would be ready for tenants. Have to say I'm less than impressed, but that's on me I guess. I like the character of the Woolworth building 100X more than the others - including 100 E53rd. Other than the pool, which is very nice to have, the place looks to me like every office building I've ever worked in - and that includes the condo interiors they showed.

I know everyone has their own personal style, but this place is so "modern" that I think it would be hard to style it any other way - unless this is the style you like to begin with. It reminds me of the waiting room at the dentist's office.
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Post by party animal - not! on Thu 07 Feb 2019, 01:01

I agree Lizzy.

The advantage here is that it's close to the UN - and it's very discreet i e cars drive straight in. But it doesn't seem like either of their tastes given the other houses they live in - all of which have a great history - or at all like the types of hotels they enjoy staying in NYC which are usually art deco  e g Bemelsman Bar

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Post by LizzyNY on Thu 07 Feb 2019, 01:27

I can see the attraction to having a centrally located place where you can leave some of your stuff while you jet around the world. The building seems to offer decent amenities, too. I just think they could have probably found something with more character.

I wonder if they were influenced by Cindy and Rande - or if it was the other way around.
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Post by Donnamarie on Thu 07 Feb 2019, 02:38

It’s very elegant and modern but I agree.  It doesn’t seem to be in line with George and Amal’s taste.  At least if their Sonning home is any indication.  May be that they won’t be spending too much time there and location, privacy and security were more important.

The Woolworth is a standout to me too.  Its  history alone gives it a unique distinction.
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Post by party animal - not! on Thu 07 Feb 2019, 02:49

Yep, and Villa L'Oleandra is eighteenth century isn't it?

I think investment in it happened before the twins came along, so it could be just that in the end. After all the Gerbers seem to do this and own a string of bars in NYC too, so maybe it's that and something to do with tax too.........

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Post by LizzyNY on Thu 07 Feb 2019, 14:53

I guess they might have bought it to flip the way Rande and Cindy do with some of their properties. There are certainly enough uber-rich idiots willing to overpay for a piece of real estate in NYC that they visit a couple of times a year - and I have to include G&A in that group. Their willingness to pay whatever developers ask is destroying the housing market in the city for people who actually live and work here.

Obviously G&A aren't solely responsible for the situation, and they have every right to buy into a luxury property if they can afford it. I hope they will be very happy there. It's just that when buildings like that get the prices they ask it discourages developers from building anything affordable for the "real" New Yorkers who do the work that makes the city run.
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Post by annemarie on Thu 07 Feb 2019, 16:46

I think it's an investment, it only has three bedrooms. Now with the twins it seems too small with them the twins and nannies.

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Post by annemarie on Thu 07 Feb 2019, 16:49

There is no money it seems in building for the people who keep this city running. The city is selling off city project playgrounds and parking lots to developers to build luxury housing it is just ridiculous.

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Post by party animal - not! on Thu 07 Feb 2019, 17:27

I have no idea how much people are charged in taxes to buy houses in NYC - or the USA for that matter, but here in the UK there is a range of different charges involved in purchase (ie legal fees for conveyancing etc etc.

The biggest charge known as stamp duty is what you pay the government to move (i e it's a tax).

But if you managed to buy a house under £300,000 you wouldn't have to pay anything.

At the opposite end of the scale anybody who buys a house worth over £1,500,000 has to pay the government 12% of the price they paid........

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Post by LizzyNY on Thu 07 Feb 2019, 17:47

PAN - Being a renter I really don't know what taxes apply when you purchase a house or apartment in NYC. From what my friends tell me, though, the taxes they pay for water and city services add on to the "real estate" taxes that are supposed to be based on the value of their property - although the rate of those taxes depend on where you live. I don't know what taxes would apply to a condo in Manhattan, but the monthly/annual maintenance fees are definitely very high.

This is a very expensive city to live in and it is becoming even more so. If the super rich would stop over-paying for luxury properties the prices would drop and more housing stock would come on the market for the other 90% of the city's people.
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Post by party animal - not! on Thu 07 Feb 2019, 19:00

Rents in London (just for comparison, Lizzy) are quite a few pennies depending on the area of course, but it is not unusual to pay £750-850 rent per room a month in an apartment with friends - and that does not include the deposit you've put down to secure the contract from the landlords/owners.

So young people have to work very hard to save for a deposit on their own property - and property prices are almost prohibitive here. A one bedroom apartment for instance 20 miles outside London would be just under £300,000

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Post by LizzyNY on Thu 07 Feb 2019, 22:18

PAN - The situation here is much the same. Manhattan has always been a place where young people just starting out could not manage without at least one roommate. When you sign a lease you have to pay 'first and last months rent" or first month's rent and a month's rent as security (in case you damage the premises). You can expect a rent increase every couple of years, the amount depending on your lease and the rent regulations at the time - they vary from year to year depending on the economy. (It would be funny if it wasn't so serious. Both the landlords and the tenants go before the Rent Guidelines Board and plead poverty!)

The rents in the outer boroughs (Brooklyn, the Bronx, Staten Island and Queens) used to be considerably lower and the apartments larger, but that's changing quickly. People with money - but not quite as much as G&A and friends- are moving out of Manhattan and bringing the real estate vultures with them. The new apartments they build are smaller and more expensive.

More and more often young couples who would have had their own home are moving back in with their parents. Often it's to save up for a place of their own but sometimes it's because they can't afford to make it on their own. It's a difficult situation all around.
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Post by party animal - not! on Thu 07 Feb 2019, 22:59

Well I guess we're talking about two of the most popular cities on the planet where investment has followed from that.

What seems to be happening here, depending on ability, is that parents to a lesser (or greater) degree are helping their children to buy or contributing in some way, because property is such a good investment, apart of course from them having a roof over their head.

Some parents believe that it's better to do this than leave their money to death duties and government taxes! They have a point.

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Post by LizzyNY on Thu 07 Feb 2019, 23:25

It's not that different here. Most parents help their children as much as they can. The problem is that more and more often they can't help as much as they'd like or as much as the kids need.
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Post by party animal - not! on Fri 08 Feb 2019, 01:46


Mm, and I don't think it's likely to change anytime soon, Lizzy. Here in the UK there are also rent to buy schemes too, and shared buying i e people who are not couples but are just trying to get on the property ladder - not necessarily easy to find either

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Post by LizzyNY on Fri 08 Feb 2019, 16:04

PAN - Here it seems that "rent to buy" usually applies to private homes - at least here in NY. It's my understanding that a building owner can't sell individual apartments. They have to offer all the apartments for sale to the existing tenants and can only go forward if the majority of the tenants agree - thus turning the building into a condominium. Whether a condo owner can rent out their apartments depends on the condo association's rules.
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Post by Joanna on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 19:18

Here in the more Central and Rural areas of U.K.
one can buy a modern detached five bedroomed,
double garaged house for around £450,000.

I can never understand why folk live in such
a busy and expensive area as in the London area !

Sorry pan...... I don't mean to offend you. LOL.
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Post by Joanna on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 19:38

Having looked at some of the pictures on the Instagram link
of the Apartments
Two thoughts came to my mind......

How hot would those All Glass rooms get with the sun pouring in ?
I know how hot my conservatory gets in the summer, 
even with the blinds down....80c !

How would those Green Trees get watered.....
that's if they're real of course.

lol!

Are you going to make an Appontment to View one Lizzy ???

I know I'd love to.....With a list of practical questions.....LOL
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Post by party animal - not! on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 20:12

No offence, Joanna.

I came from the country to the 'burbs because the work was here.....

The house I live in is worth quite a bit more becos it's easy to get into London for work. It's all bonkers, but somebody would pay that I guess, and make a fortune if they rented it out

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Post by LizzyNY on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 21:03

It seems like it's the same all over. The further out you go, the more you get for your money. Sadly, a majority of the work is in the city center and a lot of people can't afford to live there - or even within easy commute. I know people who commute well over an hour to get to work because they can't afford to live closer.

Now commuting is becoming so expensive that you're actually not saving much by living further out (though you do get more for your money). Since so much of the city's housing market is dedicated to people like G&A, who drive up prices for everyone else, it's putting a lot of people in a real bind.
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