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Post by annemarie on Wed 30 Jan 2019, 02:21

He doesn't want immigrants to come here , and yet he will take advantage of them. He doesn't even pay minimum wage.
What a peace of work.

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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by annemarie on Wed 30 Jan 2019, 18:57

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6648759/Trump-defends-North-Korea-ISIS-foreign-policy-intel-chief-paint-different-picture.html

[size=34]Trump tells his intelligence chiefs 'go back to SCHOOL' and lectures them on Iran in Twitter dressing down after they said North Korea wants to keep its nuclear weapons and ISIS are NOT defeated[/size]


  • President Donald Trump defended his foreign policy initiatives on Wednesday after his intelligence chiefs sharply contradicted his claims the day before

  • Trump suggested his chiefs were 'extremely naive and passive'

  • And he told them to 'go back to school' as he defended his foreign policy stances

  • The president was particularly defensive of his relationship with North Korea but he also argued of the progress he made against ISIS 

  • His intelligence chiefs painted a different picture when they testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee on Tuesday

  • Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats said North Korean leader Kim Jong-Un is unlikely to give up his nuclear stockpiles

  • Additionally Coats said Iran appeared not to be pursuing a nuclear weapon 

  • And CIA director Gina Haspel warned ISIS was still dangerous 

  • Trump touted success after his summit last year with Kim; he's charged Iran with being a nuclear threat; and he proclaimed ISIS 'defeated' earlier this year


By EMILY GOODIN, U.S. POLITICAL REPORTER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 08:49 EST, 30 January 2019 | UPDATED: 12:21 EST, 30 January 2019

     


President Donald Trump on Wednesday suggested his intelligence chiefs should 'go back to school' and lectured their 'naive' assessments on Iran after they sharply contradicted his foreign policy claims, particularly on North Korea and ISIS.
The president's response to his chiefs testimony before the Senate a day earlier was an unprecedented Twitter dressing down of America's top intelligence officials, where he called them 'extremely passive and naive,' said they were flat out 'wrong' on Iran, and suggested 'Intelligence should go back to school!.'
He railed against FBI directory Christopher Wray, CIA director Gina Haspel, and Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats, who painted a different picture of America's relationship with its foreign partners when they testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee on Tuesday. 


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President Donald Trump defended his foreign policy initiatives on Wednesday


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He attacked his intelligence chiefs as 'extremely passive and naive'


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He suggested they go back to school
Trump did not hold back in his fury and insults.  

'The Intelligence people seem to be extremely passive and naive when it comes to the dangers of Iran. They are wrong! When I became President Iran was making trouble all over the Middle East, and beyond. Since ending the terrible Iran Nuclear Deal, they are MUCH different, but....,' he tweeted.
He added: '....a source of potential danger and conflict. They are testing Rockets (last week) and more, and are coming very close to the edge. There economy is now crashing, which is the only thing holding them back. Be careful of Iran. Perhaps Intelligence should go back to school!' 
The president spent the morning in a defensive twitter storm about his foreign policy initiatives after Coats argued North Korea has no intention of giving up its nuclear weapons - in contrast to the president's claim of success after his summit with Kim Jong-Un - and CIA director Gina Haspel warned ISIS was still dangerous after Trump claimed they had been beaten.
Additionally Coats, in his testimony, had a different take on one of Trump's key assertions on Iran - that it had cheated on the spirit of the 2015 nuclear agreement. The president has argued Iran is still a nuclear threat.
Coats appeared to contradict that when he said Tehran was complying with the deal - even after Trump announced America's withdrawal from it in May - and isn't taking any steps toward a nuclear weapon.
'We do not believe Iran is currently undertaking activities we judge necessary to produce a nuclear device,' he said. 
Former CIA Director John Brennan, a frequent Trump critic who had his security clearance revoked by the president, retweeted Trump's criticism and told the president: 'All Americans, especially members of Congress, need to understand the danger you pose to our national security.'
'Your refusal to accept the unanimous assessment of U.S. Intelligence on Iran, No. Korea, ISIS, Russia, & so much more shows the extent of your intellectual bankruptcy. All Americans, especially members of Congress, need to understand the danger you pose to our national security,' he wrote on Twitter.
Trump's early morning defense of his foreign policies particularly focused on Iran and North Korea. 


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FBI Director Christopher Wray; CIA Director Gina Haspel; and Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee on 'Worldwide Threats'


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Trump started Wednesday morning defending his policies on Syria


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He was particularly defensive of his work with North Korea


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The president's early morning Twitter focus was on world affairs after his intelligence chiefs sharply contradicted his claims


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Trump touted his foreign policy work after his intelligence chiefs offered a different assessment


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Former CIA Director John Brennan, a frequent Trump critic who had his security clearance revoked by the president, fired back in the defense of the intelligence chiefs
'When I became President, ISIS was out of control in Syria & running rampant. Since then tremendous progress made, especially over last 5 weeks. Caliphate will soon be destroyed, unthinkable two years ago. Negotiating are proceeding well in Afghanistan after 18 years of fighting..,' Trump wrote in a series of tweets that came before he insulted his intelligence chiefs.
'Fighting continues but the people of Afghanistan want peace in this never ending war. We will soon see if talks will be successful? North Korea relationship is best it has ever been with U.S. No testing, getting remains, hostages returned. Decent chance of Denuclearization...,' the president noted. 
He added: '...Time will tell what will happen with North Korea, but at the end of the previous administration, relationship was horrendous and very bad things were about to happen. Now a whole different story. I look forward to seeing Kim Jong Un shortly. Progress being made-big difference!'
The positive notes from Trump came after Haspel warned ISIS was still dangerous and Coats told the Senate Intelligence Committee that Kim is unlikely to give up his nuclear stockpiles.
'We currently assess that North Korea will seek to retain its WMD (weapons of mass destruction) capabilities and is unlikely to completely give up its nuclear weapons and production capability because its leaders ultimately view nuclear weapons as critical to regime survival,' Coats said in his opening statement as the three intelligence chiefs testified on Tuesday.
'Our assessment is bolstered by our observations of some activity that is inconsistent with full denuclearization,' he added.  
Coats' conclusions run counter to the claims Trump made after his June summit in Singapore with Kim, when he argued North Korea no longer poses a nuclear threat.
Trump plans to meet with Kim again 'shortly,' as he said in his Wednesday morning tweet but no agenda, venue or date have been announced. 
The White House has said the sitdown will be around the end of February.


Additionally, in the annual 'Worldwide Threat Assessment' released on Tuesday, it was revealed Kim is wooing China and South Korea to support its push for Washington to loosen sanctions pressure without making significant nuclear concessions. 
'Kim has also sought to align the region against the U.S.-led pressure campaign in order to gain incremental sanctions relief, and North Korean statements have repeatedly indicated that some sanctions relief is necessary for additional diplomacy to occur,' the report said.  
The 42-page report released by Coats noted North Korea had not conducted any nuclear or missile tests in over a year and had declared its support for the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.
Pyongyang had also 'reversibly dismantled' parts of its infrastructure for weapons of mass destruction, the report said.  
The report also noted that in his 2019 New Year's address, Kim pledged that North Korea would 'go toward' complete denuclearization and promised not to make, test, or use nuclear weapons.






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Contradiction: Dan Coats (right), the Director of National Intelligence, told the Senate Intelligence Committee, that Kim Jong Un still wants nuclear weapons so his regime can survive. Coats testified beside (from left) Christopher Wray, the FBI Director, and Gina Haspel, the CIA Director


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Another summit: After this meeting in Singapore in June 2018, Trump said that Kim Jong Un had committed to full denuclearization but was contradicted Tuesday by his own Director of National Intelligence
However, it said Kim made it conditional on 'practical actions' by the United States and added that Pyongyang had - in the past tied - the idea of denuclearization to changes in diplomatic ties, economic sanctions, and military activities.
And CIA director Gina Haspel told the Senate panel on Tuesday that Kim's regime 'is committed to developing a long-range nuclear-armed missile that would pose a direct threat to the United States.' 
The threat report also found that the United States' trade policies and 'unilateralism' - central tenants of Trump's presidency - have strained relationships with foreign partners.
In addition to the focus on the North Korea, both the report and the chiefs' testimony examined relationships with Iran, Afghanistan and Syria plus warned of possible cyber attacks in the next presidential election.
Missing from the report was any mention of threats at the U.S-Mexico border where Trump is demanding a border wall for security reasons. 
The report stated the Islamic State group 'remains a terrorist and insurgent threat' inside Iraq, where the government faces 'an increasingly disenchanted public.'
In Syria, where Trump has ordered a full withdrawal of U.S. troops, the government of Bashar Assad is likely to consolidate control, with Russia and Iran attempting to further entrench themselves in Syria, the report claimed. 
And Haspel said of ISIS: 'They're still dangerous,' adding that they still command 'thousands of fighters in Iraq and Syria.' 
Last month Trump claimed 'we have won against ISIS; we've beaten them, and we've beaten them badly.' 
The intelligence assessment of Afghanistan projected a continued military stalemate. 
Without mentioning prospects for a peace deal, which appear to have improved only in recent days, the report said, 'neither the Afghan government nor the Taliban will be able to gain a strategic military advantage in the Afghan war in the coming year' if the U.S. maintains its current levels of support. 
Trump has ordered a partial pullback of U.S. forces this year, although no firm plan is in place.
Coats also told the committee that Russia and perhaps other countries are likely to attempt to use social media and other means to influence the 2020 U.S. presidential election.
'We expect our adversaries and strategic competitors to refine their capabilities and add new tactics as they learn from each other's experiences, suggesting the threat landscape could look very different in 2020 and future elections,' the intelligence report said.


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The White House is planning another meeting between Kim and Trump after their first summit in Singapore in June


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Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats told the Senate Intelligence Committee that North Korean leader Kim Jong-Un is unlikely to give up his nuclear stockpiles
The report specifically warned about Russia, which U.S. intelligence agencies determined had interfered in the 2016 election to sway voters toward Trump.
'Russia's social media efforts will continue to focus on aggravating social and racial tensions, undermining trust in authorities, and criticizing perceived anti-Russia politicians,' it said. 
'Moscow may employ additional influence toolkits - such as spreading disinformation, conducting hack-and-leak operations, or manipulating data - in a more targeted fashion to influence U.S. policy, actions, and elections.'
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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by Way2Old4Dis on Wed 30 Jan 2019, 21:18

What a peace of work.

I don't think "work" is quite the word we're looking for here.

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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by annemarie on Wed 30 Jan 2019, 22:10

I know just trying to keep it clean.

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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by annemarie on Sat 02 Feb 2019, 11:26

https://people.com/politics/trumps-tweets-sent-while-he-doing-other-things/

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Surprise! President Trump isn't the only one who hits his blue "Tweet" button
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February 01, 2019 07:05 PM

Like his hair, President Donald Trump‘s tweets are an integral part of his White House identity.
But during a revealing in-person interview with New York Times reporters, Trump gave out printed handouts of his tweets at the same time a staffer published them on his account — proving the president isn’t the only one who hits his blue “Tweet” button.
“Fresh from a meeting on trade with China’s vice premier, Mr. Trump seemed relaxed and confident as he sought to make his case,” wrote Timesreporters Peter Baker and Maggie Haberman, “distributing handouts including, at one point, printed copies of two tweets sent out in his name even as he was speaking with his visitors.”
Haberman told PEOPLE that the tweets on the printouts were the ones published on Thursday at around 5 p.m. Trump also gave the reporters a photocopy of the picture featured in the tweets.


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In the wide-ranging interview, published on Tuesday, Trump talked about his plan to declare a national emergency in order to build his border wall, since he believes negotiations with Congress are a “waste of time.” He also dismissed insinuations that he’s done anything wrong, even as the Russia investigation closes in on more of his associates, per the outlet.
While the reporters focused on these heavy topics, the president’s decision to pass out Twitter handouts also stood out to them. Why? It’s indicative of how he operates in the White House, the reporters said. Trump has a history of using Twitter to name-call his enemies, declare new policy (like the transgender ban in the military) and threaten nuclear war with North Korea.

The Times report isn’t the first one to note that Trump has staffers who assist with presidential tweets.
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FILE - In this Saturday, Jan. 28, 2017 file photo, President Donald Trump speaks on the telephone with Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington. In the background is a portrait of former President Andrew Jackson which Trump had installed in the first few days of his administration. Jon Meacham, who wrote a 2008 biography of Jackson titled "American Lion,” said Trump has echoed Jackson's outsider message to rural America by pledging to be a voice for "forgotten men and women." But he says it's "not the cleanest analogy." (AP Photo/Alex Brandon, File)
Ex-staffer Cliff Sims’ new book, Team of Vipers, reveals that, in the early days of the White House, longtime aide Dan Scavino was the only person besides the president “who always maintained access to the @readlDonaldTrump Twitter account.” (Savino’s role as presidential tweeter was so impressive that he was profiled by The New York Times Magazine in April 2018).

“[Trump would] fire off tweets from the residence at all hours and usually without any advance notice to staff,” Sims writes. “During the day, he would call Dan into the Oval to dictate tweets, complete with punctuation instructions — dash, dash, ‘sad,’ exclamation point — and his own unique way of capitalizing seemingly random words for emphasis.”
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He continues: “Early on, there wasn’t an official channel to submit recommended tweets, but Dan would come in with a printout of various options. Trump would approve them, disapprove them, or make tweaks, but you can rest assured that he wasn’t letting anything go out without his sign-off.

“In that regard, he was like a publisher, fiercely protective of his brand and loyal to his audience — he only wanted to put out things they’d want to read.”
Sims, who was on the communications team as a special assistant to Trump until 2018 after working on Trump’s campaign, also became “adept” at copying Trump’s voice.
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“Policy and communications aides would bring their topics to me and I’d craft the most Trumpian tweet I could,” he writes, “then submit it for approval, with a pretty good success rate.”
While Sims defends Trump in his book, he is also critical of the president and the way the White House operates. In response, the president took to his favorite social media platform to denounce Team of Vipers. But it’s unlikely that Trump read Sims’ book in full because, as the Times report explains, staffers put together summaries of books written by ex-staffers for him to read.

“I have somebody — boom boom, they give me the quotes,” the president told the Times reporters.
In another twist, Trump told the reporters that being president is not lucrative. He described the job as a “loser” financially, according to the Times.
“I lost massive amounts of money doing this job,” Trump said, per the outlet. “This is not the money. This is one of the great losers of all time. You know, fortunately, I don’t need money. This is one of the great losers of all time. But they’ll say that somebody from some country stayed at a hotel. And I’ll say, ‘Yeah.’ But I lose, I mean, the numbers are incredible.”

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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by party animal - not! on Sat 02 Feb 2019, 19:51

Somebody unplug Twitter!!

The worst part about this is that his phone is not encrypted and Russia and China and Lord knows who else are listening. But he says it would be too inconvenient!

And this (below) has been described as 'wilful ignorance'. Basically he doesn't listen when being briefed and then rages when he get the facts wrong and blames those trying to brief him.

http://time.com/5518947/donald-trump-intelligence-briefings-national-security/

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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by annemarie on Sat 02 Feb 2019, 20:00

'Willful Ignorance.' Inside President Trump's Troubled Intelligence Briefings
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In the wake of President Donald Trump’s renewed attacks on the U.S. intelligence community this week, senior intelligence briefers are breaking two years of silence to warn that the President is endangering American security with what they say is a stubborn disregard for their assessments.

Citing multiple in-person episodes, these intelligence officials say Trump displays what one called “willful ignorance” when presented with analyses generated by America’s $81 billion-a-year intelligence services. The officials, who include analysts who prepare Trump’s briefs and the briefers themselves, describe futile attempts to keep his attention by using visual aids, confining some briefing points to two or three sentences, and repeating his name and title as frequently as possible.

What is most troubling, say these officials and others in government and on Capitol Hill who have been briefed on the episodes, are Trump’s angry reactions when he is given information that contradicts positions he has taken or beliefs he holds. Two intelligence officers even reported that they have been warned to avoid giving the President intelligence assessments that contradict stances he has taken in public.

From left, FBI Director Christopher Wray, CIA Director Gina Haspel, Director of National Intelligence Daniel Coats, Defense Intelligence Agency Director Gen. Robert Ashley, National Security Agency Director Gen. Paul Nakasone and National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency Director Robert Cardillo testify to the Senate Intelligence Committee on worldwide threats on Jan. 29, 2019.
From left, FBI Director Christopher Wray, CIA Director Gina Haspel, Director of National Intelligence Daniel Coats, Defense Intelligence Agency Director Gen. Robert Ashley, National Security Agency Director Gen. Paul Nakasone and National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency Director Robert Cardillo testify to the Senate Intelligence Committee on worldwide threats on Jan. 29, 2019. Salwan Georges—The Washington Post/Getty Images
That reaction was on display this week. At a Congressional hearing on national security threats, the leaders of all the major intelligence agencies, including the Directors of National Intelligence, the CIA and the FBI contradicted Trump on issues relating to North Korea, Russia, the Islamic State, and Iran. In response, Trump said the intelligence chiefs were “passive and naïve” and suggested they “should go back to school.”

The intelligence officials criticizing Trump requested anonymity because the briefings they described, including the President’s Daily Brief, or PDB, are classified. The PDB is one of the most highly restricted products produced by U.S. intelligence analysts. A select group of intelligence officials is involved in preparing these briefings. A small number of senior officials, often including the Director of Central Intelligence, Director of National Intelligence or the heads of other agencies depending on the topic, usually deliver it.

The reporting for this story is based on interviews with multiple officials who have first hand knowledge of the episodes they describe, and multiple others who have been briefed on them. Asked in detail about the officials’ concerns, senior White House and National Security Council officials declined to comment.

The problem has existed since the beginning of Trump’s presidency, the intelligence officials say, and for a time they tried to respond to the President’s behavior in briefings with dark humor. After a briefing in preparation for a meeting with British Prime Minister Theresa May, for example, the subject turned to the British Indian Ocean Territory of Diego Garcia. The island is home to an important airbase and a U.S. Naval Support Facility that are central to America’s ability to project power in the region, including in the war in Afghanistan.

The President, officials familiar with the briefing said, asked two questions: Are the people nice, and are the beaches good? “Some of us wondered if he was thinking about our alliance with the Brits and the security issues in an important area where the Chinese have been increasingly active, or whether he was thinking like a real estate developer,” one of the officials said wryly.

In another briefing on South Asia, Trump’s advisors brought a map of the region from Afghanistan to Bangladesh, according to intelligence officers with knowledge of the meeting and congressional officials who were briefed on it. Trump, they said, pointed at the map and said he knew that Nepal was part of India, only to be told that it is an independent nation. When said he was familiar with Bhutan and knew it, too, was part of India, his briefers told him that Bhutan was an independent kingdom. Last August, Politico reported on president’s mispronunciation of the names of the two countries during the same briefing.

But the disconnect between Trump and his intelligence briefers is no joke, the officials say. Several pointed to concerns regarding Trump’s assessment of the threat posed by North Korea’s nuclear capabilities. After Trump’s summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong-Un last summer, the North claimed to have destroyed its major underground nuclear testing facility at Punggye-ri, and Trump has gone out of his way to credit the claim.

The National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGIA), which oversees the spy satellites that map and photograph key areas, had tried to impress upon Trump the size and complexity of the North Korean site. In preparing one briefing for the President on the issue early in his administration, the NGIA built a model of the facility with a removable roof, according to two officials. To help Trump grasp the size of the facility, the NGIA briefers built a miniature version New York’s Statue of Liberty to scale and put it inside the model.

Intelligence officials from multiple agencies later warned Trump that entrances at the facility that had been closed after the summit could still be reopened. But the president has ignored the agencies’ warnings and has exaggerated the steps North Korea has taken to shutter the facility, those officials and two others say. That is a particular concern now, ahead of a possible second summit with the Kim Jong-Un later this month.

The briefers’ concerns are spread across multiple areas of expertise. Two briefers worry that a summit with Chinese President Xi Jinping could produce a trade agreement that the President can trumpet but that fails to address China’s espionage, its theft of intellectual property that ranges from circuit boards to soybean hybrids, its military buildup, and its geopolitical ambition.

Three other officials worry about what one of them calls “precipitous troop withdrawals” from Syria and Afghanistan and a peace deal with the Taliban that in time would leave the extremist Islamic group back in charge and wipe out the gains made in education, women’s rights and governance since the U.S. invaded the country more than 17 years ago.

For now, the briefers are heartened by the intelligence community leaders who risked Trump’s ire by contradicting him in public testimony this week.

The danger, one former intelligence official said, is that those leaders and other intelligence briefers may eventually stop taking such risks in laying out the facts for the President.

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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by annemarie on Sat 02 Feb 2019, 20:03

He thinks he knows everything and knows nothing.

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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by Donnamarie on Sat 09 Feb 2019, 01:53

Regarding the Bezos/Pecker story I was reading an article in ‘The Washington Post’ yesterday about Bezos’ security guy and the point person for the AMI investigation.  Maybe others here have heard of Gavin de Becker but I hadn’t.  He has quite an impressive reputation and has provided security for many celebrities over the years and worked for the Justice Department.  He had a horrible and abusive childhood living in LA.  His mother killed herself when he was a teenager.  Without going into too much detail he ended up knowing Miguel Ferrer and eventually met Rosemary Clooney.  She heard his story and invited him to live in her home.  He eventually went on to become her road manager.  Can’t imagine George doesn’t know him.
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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by LizzyNY on Sat 09 Feb 2019, 02:55

Donnamarie - I don't know why, but his name seems very familiar. I think you're right. George must know him. Maybe he even gave George advice on how to manage his own security.
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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by annemarie on Sat 09 Feb 2019, 10:12

My guess is that George's security comes from De Beckers company.

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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by party animal - not! on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 13:52

Well, here's his company and what they do.

https://gdba.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNtXjIiJ0PU

I see George's usual security man was there last night - he works for many of them

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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by annemarie on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 13:56

George's usual security seems to be working for Jennifer he has been with her while she films and he was with her in the photos last night.

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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by Donnamarie on Mon 11 Feb 2019, 04:28

annemarie wrote:George's usual security seems to be working for Jennifer he has been with her while she films and he was with her in the photos last night.

Do you mean the bald guy in the blue shirt?  Thought I recognized him as George’s usual security guy.  I didn’t recognize the guy driving Amal, George and friend from Jen’s party.
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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by party animal - not! on Mon 11 Feb 2019, 14:06


Thursday is the anniversary of the Parkland shooting - and I'm willing to bet that we'll be hearing a lot more about it then.

And I'm also willing to bet that a certain couple will be continuing to back and mentor them in every way that they can...........and I suspect they are not alone

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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by annemarie on Mon 11 Feb 2019, 14:12

Yes the bald guy is his guard.

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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by annemarie on Wed 13 Feb 2019, 02:40

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6696853/Donald-Trump-Jr-slammed-saying-loser-teachers-spreading-socialism.html

[size=34]Donald Trump Jr. is slammed by educators for claiming 'loser teachers' indoctrinate American children with 'socialism from birth'[/size]


  • Donald Trump Jr encouraged young conservatives to 'keep up' the fight against socialism in their schools at a Trump rally in El Paso, Texas on Monday

  • 'You don't have to be indoctrinated by these loser teachers that are trying to sell you on socialism from birth. You don't have to do it,' he told the crowd  

  • His comments were quickly blasted on Twitter by liberals and teachers who argued students are taught 'social responsibility' and 'civic duty'  


By KAREN RUIZ FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 15:56 EST, 12 February 2019 | UPDATED: 16:33 EST, 12 February 2019

     




Donald Trump Jr has been slammed on social media after claiming 'loser teachers' are brainwashing young Americans 'from birth' with socialism.
The president's eldest son spoke to a crowd of Trump supporters at a rally in El Paso, Texas on Monday night, encouraging young conservatives to 'keep up' the fight against leftist policies at their schools.
'Keep up that fight, bring it to your schools. You don't have to be indoctrinated by these loser teachers that are trying to sell you on socialism from birth. You don't have to do it,' Trump Jr said drawing cheers and applause from the crowd. 




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Donald Trump Jr encouraged young conservatives to 'keep up' the fight against socialism in their schools saying they don't have to be 'indoctrinated by these loser teachers'


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President Trump drew an estimated 16,000 people to his rally in El Paso on Monday - claiming victory in his battle with Democratic upstart Beto O'Rourke. The arena held 6,500, but there was a large crowd outside which saw the speech on big screens


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Several teachers, including user @kybluebird77 hit out at Don Jr saying students are taught 'social responsibility' and 'civic duty'
The 41-year-old also expressed his joy over seeing young Republicans standing up for their beliefs which he said 'is not easy.'  

Although he received praise at the rally, Don Jr's comments were quickly blasted on Twitter by Democrats and teachers who slammed him for criticizing 'hardworking' educators.  
'Teachers do not indoctrinate kids. It's called learning. Academics, teamwork, social skills and - now - lock down drills. Not socialism, survival thru human compassion and kindness,' one Twitter user, Elizabeth Doyle said. 
Several teachers, including user @kybluebird77 blasted Don Jr's comments saying: 'Hey Jr., I've been teaching for 15 years and never once have I witnessed the teaching of socialism! I have however witnessed the teaching of RESPONSIBILITY, EQUALITY, AND CIVIC DUTY, as in it's our right to vote someone in that's not a complete idiot!!'
Twitter user Brett Rose echoed those sentiments suggesting students are taught how to be socially responsible, not to subscribe to political beliefs. 


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'I think little Donald here is getting socialism confused with "social responsibility." One is a political theory, and the other is how decent people should act,' he tweeted.     
'My hat is off to all the "Loser" teachers who spend their lives working hard to teach our children to be critical thinkers, to weigh the evidence before them, to recognize that #factsmatter, and to call bullsh!t on the bullsh!tters,' another said. 


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Twitter user Brett Rose echoed those sentiments suggesting students are taught how to be socially responsible, not how to subscribe to political beliefs


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Don Jr has been a vocal critic of the new wave of 'democratic socialism' taking over the Democratic party. 
While on stage, he also took the chance to ridicule the Green New Deal which has been mainly supported by New York Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio Cortez. 
'I see the Green New Deal,' Don Jr said before pausing to laugh. 
'We're gonna ban airline travel, we're gonna ban the internal combustion engine. We're gonna let people who just don't wanna work, we're gonna take care of them anyway. And it's all gonna pay for themselves,' he mocked. 


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Trump, who chose the border town as the venue for a rally to drum up support for his promised wall along the frontier with Mexico, spoke at the El Paso County Coliseum on Monday

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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by annemarie on Wed 13 Feb 2019, 18:14

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6701227/Bill-Cosby-compares-Nelson-Mandela-Gandhi-comment-prison.html

[size=34]Bill Cosby speaks out for the first time from prison as he compares himself to Nelson Mandela and Gandhi and says is a 'political prisoner' put in jail for 'trying to humanize all races, genders and religions'[/size]


  • 'My political beliefs, my actions of trying to humanize all races, genders and religions landed me in this place surrounded by barb wire fencing,' said Cosby

  • He said his 'temporary residence resembles the quarters of some of the greatest political prisoners - Martin Luther King, Jr., Mahatma Gandhi, Nelson Mandela'

  • Cosby, speaking out from prison for the first time , said he has 'no remorse' for his actions and should never have been put on trial

  • This comes after Cosby's spokesperson Andrew Wyatt said that the disgraced actor was having an 'amazing time' in prison 

  • Cosby, 81, is behind bars waiting to hear if the court will accept his appeal after he was sentenced to serve at least three years for aggravated sexual assault 

  • He claim that the judge in his case was 'corrupt' and the district attorney was a 'low life' 


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PUBLISHED: 12:37 EST, 13 February 2019 UPDATED: 13:10 EST, 13 February 2019



     

     

     

     

     
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Bill Cosby is once again speaking out from behind bars, and comparing himself to three of the most respected non-violent political protesters in history.  
In his statement, Cosby compares his time in prison to the sentences of Nelson Mandela and Gandhi while at the same time saying he has no remorse for any of his actions.
'Here’s why I, have "no" remorse and will never have remorse. I was given a deal; I settled out of court for $3.8 million dollars; I waived my 5th amendment rights; I was declared Not Guilty in 2005 by the Commonwealth - never charged,' said Cosby in his first comments from prison, which were relayed through his spokesperson Andrew Wyatt.
'However, a low-life District Attorney and a corrupt Judge needed me Guilty now. Not for justice, but for their political aspirations. They say, Mr. Cosby you must attend these classes. Why? One word. Entrapment!' 

This comes one day after Wyatt told NBC 10 that Cosby was having an 'amazing experience' in prison, where he exercises daily at 3:30am, has cut bread and coffee from his diet and rises his food with water to lower his sodium intake.  
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J-A-I-L-O: 'My political beliefs, my actions of trying to humanize all races, genders and religions landed me in this place surrounded by barb wire fencing,' said Cosby (mugshot above)


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Compare: He said his 'temporary residence resembles the quarters of some of the greatest political prisoners - Martin Luther King, Jr., Mahatma Gandhi, Nelson Mandela' (Mandela above in 2004)


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Peaceful: Cosby, speaking out from prison for the first time , said he has 'no remorse' for his actions and should never have been put on trial (Gandhi above in 1931)
Cosby goes on to explain why he believes these public officials were so eager to put him behind bars.
'My political beliefs, my actions of trying to humanize all races, genders and religions landed me in this place surrounded by barb wire fencing, a room made of steel and iron,' explained Cosby.
'So, I now have a temporary residence that resembles the quarters of some of the Greatest Political Prisoners - Martin Luther King, Jr., Mahatma Gandhi, Nelson Mandela, Randal Robinson, and Dr. Benjamin Chavis.'
He then closed out by declaring: 'I stand upright as a Political Prisoner and I Smile. The Truth is Strong!' 

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Cosby is currently serving a three- to 10-year sentence at the State Correctional Institute Phoenix in Collegeville after a jury found him guilty on three counts of aggravated indecent assault for a 2004 incident in which Andrea Constand alleged that she was drugged and sexually molested by Cosby at his Pennsylvania home.
The 81-year-old actor has never denied Constand's allegations, but argues that he was promised immunity from charges when he agreed to a settlement in the case and agreed to give a deposition.
In that deposition, Cosby confessed to obtaining Quaaludes to give to women.  
'When you got the Quaaludes, was it in your mind that you were going to use these Quaaludes for young women that you wanted to have sex with?' one of the attorneys asked Cosby.
'Yes,' said the actor. 
He was then asked: 'Did you ever give any of those young women the Quaaludes without their knowledge?'
That is when his lawyer objected and ordered Cosby not to answer.
This statement from Cosby sounds remarkably similar to an interview Wyatt did with NNPA Newswire and radio host Frankie Darcell of WDAS that was published by The Washington Informer. 
Much of that interview was devoted to what Wyatt and Cosby's publicist Ebonee Benson see as an unjust arrest and conviction that would have never occurred were Cosby not black.


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Leading the blind: This comes after Cosby's spokesperson Andrew Wyatt (above with Cosby) said that the disgraced actor was having an 'amazing time' in prison
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'He has been able to speak with other inmates about their situation and impart advice,' said Wyatt.
'Mr. Cosby loves hearing other stories of the inmates whom he calls residents. It’s that psychology part of him that takes them into his laboratory. He tells them, "You don’t have to swear or curse, this is what you do." He’s doing what he always have on the lecture circuit.'
Wyatt did not explain how Cosby did that however, since he was removed from the general population at that time.
'Mr. Cosby said Malcolm X, Martin Luther King Jr. and Nelson Mandela helped him prepare for this chapter of his life,' added Wyatt.
'He said they told him that if he was going to continue to fight for civil rights, something like this was bound to happen and he’s been prepared for it and he knows he’s in prison not for rape, but for infidelity. He knows he’s innocent and he’s kept his head up.'
What also revealed that Cosby had grown a beard and gave more information about his living conditions.
'He said the bed lies on thick steel or concrete and he’s allowed to make phone calls, but he’s still being assessed right now so he’s not in general population,' revealed Wyatt.
'He follows the rules and respects the guards. They’ve given him a cane and, because he’s blind, they have a trustee to help him.'  [/size]

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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by carolhathaway on Wed 13 Feb 2019, 20:04

Well, everybody has the right for an own opinion..
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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by LizzyNY on Wed 13 Feb 2019, 20:13

This is just totally bizarre. I wonder if they tested him for mental competence. It seems like he and drumpf are living in the same alternate fact-free universe.
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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by carolhathaway on Thu 14 Feb 2019, 06:43

As long as he's the only person who hares his opinion, I don't care. But he's vilifying his victims, and that's simply not fair. Not to mention all those civil-rights activists he mentioned, I don't think they would be too happy to be named with him...
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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by Way2Old4Dis on Thu 14 Feb 2019, 14:35

Equal parts dementia and narcissism.

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