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Post by What Would He Say on Sat 14 Apr 2018, 12:07

[new thread started by Katiedot by removing posts from another thread about her many paparazzi photoshoots in March/April in NYC]

In reference to last picture above....from this weeks many phots....


You know I was always “iffy” about Amal...but I have to say my heart goes out to her this last week and I really don’t know why????

Call it gut instinct again... I just get the feeling she needs a shoulder, an ear ...  I feel genuinely unhappy for her, enduring these constant daily pap parades.... if there is a back door why doesn’t she take it... if it’s part of an agreement, (vogue whatever) just break it. Life’s too short...happiness should be her daily fuel... not this, this is awful....
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Post by party animal - not! on Sat 14 Apr 2018, 12:33

Mm.......except, except in a way this is all grist to her mill now.

Bound to happen on Vogue release.  Big publicity for her causes - huge bag in assistant's hand yesterday - three huge things going on: Lawyers office NYC for Reuters case, UN work, and Columbia professor. Never mind possible Met Ball consulting......

and she said in the Vogue article that she didn't mind given the happiness she's found (or something like that but much better put!)

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Post by annemarie on Sat 14 Apr 2018, 12:57

The house has no back door just a fenced yard.

This is what she said about this press scrutiny.

But that whole side—invasions of privacy and paparazzi, all of that—has happened because of something so happy and so important in my life.”


She also said they spend a lot of time at home so they can have their privacy.

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Post by LizzyNY on Sat 14 Apr 2018, 14:21

WWHS - There's not much she can do about it. Now that the paps know where she's staying they just camp out and wait for her to come out. The only way to avoid it completely would be to never leave the house.

That's why I'm a bit surprised they invested in a condo here. Everyone knows where it is, so once they move in they're pretty much guaranteed pap coverage at their front door most of the time. Even if people lose interest in George (Heave forbid!) they'll still be interested in her and the twins.
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Post by Admin on Sat 14 Apr 2018, 14:29

I can kind of see where WWHS is coming from on this.  I ended up having to edit all the thread titles by adding the date, otherwise we'd have half a dozen threads all called 'Amal leaving the house today'.  It's been lovely to see all her clothes, but I think it's been a little excessive.

I'm assuming it's all part of some sort of deal she's got going on with Vogue [and on a side note, I wonder what will happen if Anna Wintour really is kicked out] but I'm not entirely sure why it's happening.  Does George need this kind of publicity?  She certainly doesn't.

I could see this as being a lot of fun (in the beginning, at least) for someone who loves clothes.  If Vogue offered me the option of endless designer clothes, I'd jump at the chance too, even if some of the outfits were a little too . . . fashion forward at times.  

Maybe she's setting herself up as a socialite type of figure in her own right?  Maybe she loved the free clothes and now, as WWHS says, she's kind of caught up in a merry-go-round that she can't get off.  Or maybe doesn't want to get off.  She looks happy enough in the photos, but even Kardashians don't parade this much!  I know she has to get to work, but George seems to have been able to make it in and out without being photographed each time [unless we fuel the conspiracy that they're living separately].
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Post by party animal - not! on Sat 14 Apr 2018, 14:39

When - and if - they move into the new place life will be a lot easier, because their cars will simply drive straight into the underground car park.....

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Post by annemarie on Sat 14 Apr 2018, 14:47

She loves clothes and always has that is not new for her  apparently.

 I don't think George made it in and out any easier than Amal. We never saw Amal or George arrive.

The pictures started after they and the kids arrived. Bottom line for me she is his wife they will take pictues

they sell rags. I think she has accepted that it is the trade off for her love and happiness. She can't hide and 

there is no reason she should she is simply getting on with her life. What she is doing is not rocket science

wearing nice clothes and and going to work is no big deal other than to the paps who get paid big money 

for the shots they take. This is after all how they make their living .

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Post by Donnamarie on Sun 15 Apr 2018, 20:01

I want to give greenies to almost every pic posted!  Great selection annemarie.  !!!!

THANKS AGAIN TO JOANNA FOR COMING UP WITH THE IDEA!

I guess I will be the odd person out here who still thinks that the paps catching Amal everyday as she heads out are prompted not by Amal, or George, but by the paps doing what they get paid to do.  They have ways and sources to give them the heads up on the goings on of celebrities.  They know which celebrities’ pics are in demand and bring in top dollar.

None of us really know what’s up with Amal and George’s living arrangements at this condo.  There has never been any sightings of the babies.  I can’t believe that they are being kept inside for the duration of Amal’s work in NYC.   We saw George there once or twice.  Was he there just for one weekend? 

Amal doesn’t seem to mind the daily photo barrage.  She probably knew wherever she was staying in NYC she would be tracked down by the paps.  But her comments in the Vogue article seem to suggest that she has accepted the attention and on balance it’s worth it.  Where George and Amal draw the line is on their children’s exposure ... understandingly.
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Post by ladybugcngc on Sun 15 Apr 2018, 21:37

Donnamarie wrote:I want to give greenies to almost every pic posted!  Great selection annemarie.  !!!!

THANKS AGAIN TO JOANNA FOR COMING UP WITH THE IDEA!

I guess I will be the odd person out here who still thinks that the paps catching Amal everyday as she heads out are prompted not by Amal, or George, but by the paps doing what they get paid to do.  They have ways and sources to give them the heads up on the goings on of celebrities.  They know which celebrities’ pics are in demand and bring in top dollar.

None of us really know what’s up with Amal and George’s living arrangements at this condo.  There has never been any sightings of the babies.  I can’t believe that they are being kept inside for the duration of Amal’s work in NYC.   We saw George there once or twice.  Was he there just for one weekend? 

Amal doesn’t seem to mind the daily photo barrage.  She probably knew wherever she was staying in NYC she would be tracked down by the paps.  But her comments in the Vogue article seem to suggest that she has accepted the attention and on balance it’s worth it.  Where George and Amal draw the line is on their children’s exposure ... understandingly.
Donna, other than the people on this blog, I'm not sure who would care about "pap" shots of Amal.  I don't think anyone is going to see a pap shot of Amal on the cover of any magazine, and buy it based on that.  For the most part, people are not interested in her work. And the small number of people who are interested in her work, care nothing about pap shots of her.

The coverage of her coming in and out of her living space reminds me of reality show personalities 'buying' attention. There are magazines to sell, the MET GALA to promote, and a desperate need to make Amal seem relevant to a wider audience.  

To my knowledge, there are a small number of people who carry a security level  that prevent paparazzi from being able to photograph them in the manner in which Amal has undergone daily.  Amal seems to understand she does not qualify for that high level security protection, and accept the paparazzi photographing her coming and going through her everyday life; she seems to go with the flow.

As life moves on, I hope many years of happiness for Amal.  The photographs document so much of her 4 year relationship with George Clooney.  Some of them bring back heart felt memories.


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Post by party animal - not! on Sun 15 Apr 2018, 22:44

Mm, actually think Amal''s security is likely to be excellent - and necessarily so. She is the first and only person to address and move the UN agree to prosecute ISIS. I would not be surprised to hear that she has had death threats.

interesting that George must now be back - and not one sighting.Pprobably done a deal with the doorsteppers

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Post by annemarie on Sun 15 Apr 2018, 23:02

She does have security , if you look at the pictures she has a driver and the white haired gentleman who escorts her to and from the house. 

They also do get threats , In the Hollywood Reporter interview he stated they have had a lot of real threats and they take them seriously.

They took out the five year order of protection against the man was it two years ago.


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Post by ladybugcngc on Sun 15 Apr 2018, 23:10

annemarie wrote:She does have security , if you look at the pictures she has a driver and the white haired gentleman who escorts her to and from the house. 

They also do get threats , George said they take them very seriously.

They took out the five year order of protection against the man was it two years ago.
I'm talking about the level of security one can have where the paparazzi is not allowed to impose, like that have on Amal.
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Post by party animal - not! on Sun 15 Apr 2018, 23:19

virtually impossible in NYC. I know. I've seen it. bear in mind they are next door to Anna Wintour's brownstone and two houses away from Sandra Bullock's. they have to have had an arrangement of some sort. one of her clients now is Reuters remember

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Post by LizzyNY on Sun 15 Apr 2018, 23:22

The NY Post outed G&A today for staying in the house on Sullivan St.. It isn't up to code as a multi-unit rental, and the owner is violating housing laws by renting the way he is. Chrissy Tiegen and John Legend had to leave when the police raided the place a few weeks ago and there's a court case pending. The Post seems to feel Amal, as a lawyer, should know better than to stay there.

I've been wondering why they didn't stay at the Carlyle as they usually do. I think the paps would have been less of a problem there. The hotel staff could have run interference for them. Maybe Anna Wintour suggested this place. Just to make it more convenient for her to meet with Amal, of course.
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Post by ladybugcngc on Sun 15 Apr 2018, 23:24

party animal - not! wrote:Mm, actually think Amal''s security is likely to be excellent - and necessarily so.  She is the first and only person to address and move the UN agree to prosecute ISIS. I would not be surprised to hear that she has had death threats.

interesting that George must now be back - and not one sighting.Pprobably done a deal with the doorsteppers
PAN I'm sure Amal's involvment to address the UN was with good intentions.  With the possiblity of death threats over her head, I'm surprised she does not have a higher level of security.  Clearly, Amal's security is limited, the paparazzi is allowed to photograph her when and where they please.  I don't want to go off topic.  Maybe you have some pictures/photos of Amal you like.


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Post by annemarie on Sun 15 Apr 2018, 23:28

The people who leased the house are at fault , not Amal and George  how are they  supposed to know what the problems are. They

obviously trusted the leasing agent who new very well they shouldn't be leasing it.

I think they leased it because there is a backyard and the babies can go out and not be photographed . At the hotel

that wouldn't be possible. Too many people to inform the paps what the kids and the nanny look like. 

The Vogue interview stated she had work with the U.N. so we do know she is there for that as well.

George has never barred or treated the paps badly, as long as they are respectful he is fine with them. He

said himself they have a job to do , he may not like it but he gets it. As far as security stopping the paps

that would cause more problems than necessary they get their pictures and everyone gets on with their day.

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Post by ladybugcngc on Mon 16 Apr 2018, 01:05

Note: copied from the Amal's Style File thread.

party animal - not! wrote:Mm, actually think Amal''s security is likely to be excellent - and necessarily so.  She is the first and only person to address and move the UN agree to prosecute ISIS. I would not be surprised to hear that she has had death threats.  

I look forward to reading the facts when the case to prosecute ISIS is presented in court. 


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Post by Admin on Mon 16 Apr 2018, 05:25

Donnamarie wrote:I guess I will be the odd person out here who still thinks that the paps catching Amal everyday as she heads out are prompted not by Amal, or George, but by the paps doing what they get paid to do.  [ . . . ] None of us really know what’s up with Amal and George’s living arrangements at this condo.  There has never been any sightings of the babies.  I can’t believe that they are being kept inside for the duration of Amal’s work in NYC.   We saw George there once or twice.  Was he there just for one weekend? 
I'm thinking that they came to an agreement with the paps: lots of shots of George and Amal (which DO sell magazines/websites otherwise the paps wouldn't bother to take the photos) in exchange for not photographing other things.

Just a guess.

The kids are what, nine months now? If there's a garden, then I can't see why they'd need to come and go a lot at the moment, but yes, if the Clooneys really are actually living there, then there's clearly an agreement not to photograph everyone coming or going from that house. Unless they all only come/go at night?

Amal leaves the house every day for a few hours. George, I'd assume, also has to come and go every day, but he didn't get photographed. Either they're not living there, or there's an agreement.

ladybugcngc wrote: I don't think anyone is going to see a pap shot of Amal on the cover of any magazine, and buy it based on that.  For the most part, people are not interested in her work. And the small number of people who are interested in her work, care nothing about pap shots of her.

The coverage of her coming in and out of her living space reminds me of reality show personalities 'buying' attention. There are magazines to sell, the MET GALA to promote, and a desperate need to make Amal seem relevant to a wider audience.
Hmmmn, yes and no. The pap photos aren't going on any front covers of magazines; they're on websites. The gossip sites are really hot on what generates clicks for them and if they don't get clicks on the Amal photos, they'll soon stop posting them. That's not because the websites care about Amal - or indeed who's on the front cover - but they do care about advertising revenue and ads only come for sites with a lot of clicks.  

It seems to me that Amal is being sold to us as an accomplished woman who has it all: a meaningful career, a great wardrobe and a loving family. Think of her as the sort of anti-Kardashian (vacuous air-head who'd have achieved nothing if it weren't for a sex tape and a willingness to put herself out there)! Finally, here's a woman with substance.

My question is who's doing the selling? Is it team Clooney who, lest we forget, have a powerful agent with decades of experience of crafting images for Hollywood behind them? Or is it a natural narrative that's come from the media themselves? As much as we'd like to think of entertainment press as being stupid, they're smart enough to know what sells and someone like Amal is desperately missing in the pantheon of celebrities they write about. One could almost say that in the wake of #metoo and an increased concern about pop culture, if Amal didn't already exist, she'd have to be invented.
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Post by annemarie on Mon 16 Apr 2018, 11:02

Katie I , think it more the press trying to sell Amal, your right they know what people want and if people are visiting their
site and reading about Amal,  they know she is of interest. Whether it be just people making nasty comments in the comment section it doesn't matter the interest is there.

In collecting the pictures of Amal , I have discovered there aren't as many as you would think for a woman in her position. They are of her with George, going to work or the odd one out with friends or her mother. She isn't seen out all the time not even  shopping.They do keep their lives as much as they can private.

The most pictures we seem to get are when they are in New York, I think because it is easier to get shots and they love New York and enjoy going out.

 As she herself said, the invasion of privacy came from something so happy and important in her life. I think it is a trade off for all she has , so she puts on a smile and gets on with living her life which she does with or without pap attention.

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Post by Katarzyna on Tue 01 May 2018, 15:42

Amal deliberately leased that house knowing the paps could photograph her leaving every day. So easy to rent a high rise apartment with a basement where a car with blackened windows could drive her out everyday and not be photographed. Instead it was a different expensive outfit every day. Makeup artists and hairdressers made her pap ready every day. Flaunting George's wealth. This is why she's so disliked.

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Post by annemarie on Tue 01 May 2018, 16:23

I don't think either George or Amal care who likes them or doesn't they are happy and living their lives with their children.

What other people do with their money is their business. The assumption that she is spending George's  money is always funny to me she makes her own .

At her age I am sure she can do her own hair and make up.

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Post by ladybugcngc on Tue 01 May 2018, 16:47

I saw enough of Amal, her coats, and hired paparazzi to last a lifetime.  I have to say I'm glad Amal has moved.  George, Amal, the twins, and extended family seemed to be enjoying an early summer in the Como area.  Unusual not to see the family out to dinner in Como, maybe they are keeping a low profile until the Met Gala.

I'm looking forward to seeing George Clooney, the Gerbers, and Amal at the Met Gala.  All jokes aside, the last time they attended the Met Gala, Amal's dress was absolutely beautiful and George Clooney was a Distinguished Gentlemen. I do believe Amal will be wearing a beautiful gown, fit for the Ball and George Clooney the most handsome date of the evening.
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Post by Donnamarie on Tue 01 May 2018, 18:25

I agree Annemarie.  I don’t think George and Amal are interested in what others (with the possible exception of close family and friends) think about how they lead their lives.    

No evidence whatsoever of ‘hired paparazzi’.  The Clooneys attract attention whenever they are spotted.  The paps make it their job to seek out celebrities and the Clooneys are still newsworthy.  If we knew that Amal was going to be teaching at Columbia beforehand then the paps knew it too.  None of us know why Amal and George were using that particular condo during Amal’s stint at Columbia.  We’ve all made guesses but so many times we have tried to figure out the what and why of George and Amal and so many times we are wrong or we never find out the true details.  

Amal is a rich woman in her own right.  So she could just as easily be flaunting her own fashion wealth.
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Post by ladybugcngc on Tue 01 May 2018, 18:46

Donnamarie wrote:I agree Annemarie.  I don’t think George and Amal are interested in what others (with the possible exception of close family and friends) think about how they lead their lives.    

No evidence whatsoever of ‘hired paparazzi’.  The Clooneys attract attention whenever they are spotted.  The paps make it their job to seek out celebrities and the Clooneys are still newsworthy.  If we knew that Amal was going to be teaching at Columbia beforehand then the paps knew it too.  None of us know why Amal and George were using that particular condo during Amal’s stint at Columbia.  We’ve all made guesses but so many times we have tried to figure out the what and why of George and Amal and so many times we are wrong or we never find out the true details.  

Amal is a rich woman in her own right.  So she could just as easily be flaunting her own fashion wealth.
Donna, nobody can convince me the paps outside Amal door were not hired to be there.  I've watched George Clooney over 10 years and I've NEVER seen anything like Amal's paparazzi fiasco on her door step.  Other than the one time George Clooney left for a date, Amal and Amal's mother were the only people I saw coming and going out of that door.
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Post by What Would He Say on Tue 01 May 2018, 21:19

It is what it is.... I don’t like it, the constant pap walks.... but then they(he)  don’t care either .... so even Stevens...
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Post by Katarzyna on Wed 02 May 2018, 05:39

Amal wanted the paparazzi there as George’s PR firm continues its push to make her happen. Problem is the public don’t like her. She’s too thirsty for attention and her flaunting of his wealth is just hypocritical. She has no idea. In the vogue interview they refer to nannies, chefs and staff. The hairdressers and make up artists are flaunted. She makes no effort to hide her massive spending of George’s money while claiming to care about the poor. No one likes people like that. In addition George’s PR keep trying to portray her as ‘beautiful’. The public know what a beautiful woman is and it’s not Amal. Yet she tries so so hard and spends so much money on her appearance . I just remember Celine Balitran saying George hates high maintenance women who spend all their time on clothes and shopping. Yet look at Amal?

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Katarzyna wrote:Amal deliberately leased that house knowing the paps could photograph her leaving every day.
Sigh.

The thing that annoys me so much on George Clooney fan forums is the deep, deep, deeeep desire of fans to blame everything on the woman, and never on George. You really think he's this patsy who had no idea that instead of his usual hotel, his wife had rented a house? And that on the first day of the paparazzi being there, he still had no idea that the paparazzi would be there? You think he's that stupid?

No, I think George Clooney is very much aware of his image and cares about how he's seen in public. His wife? Not so much. If Amal does something like this, you can be sure she's got her husband's blessing.

Katarzyna wrote: This is why she's so disliked.
Really? And how did you decide that she's disliked when she gets so much positive coverage? This forum isn't a good place to draw your conclusions from: the fans have hated every woman George has ever dated and will always do so.

ladybugcngc wrote:Donna, nobody can convince me the paps outside Amal door were not hired to be there.
Well, then you have no understanding of how the paparazzi work. Nobody has to hire them: they get their money from selling the photos they take. All anyone has to do is to alert them to the fact that a celebrity who's worth taking photos of is at a particular place, and they'll show up.

Now, if you'd written 'Nobody can convince me that the paps outside the door weren't asked to be there', then we'd be in agreement. They clearly weren't there all the time so I guess they got the call whenever they were wanted. IMO, the only exception was the guy who got pictures of Amal with Ella - I think that was unplanned and those photos have been largely buried. Amal doesn't have that kind of clout to keep photos out of the media, but George's PR team certainly do.

Katarzyna wrote:Amal wanted the paparazzi there as George’s PR firm continues its push to make her happen.

Now here I think you're more on the money. I think George is very much behind this. I think he wants a wife who's publicly seen as beautiful, social, accomplished and fashionable. This is his thing, not hers and if we don't like it, then probably better to bemoan his behaviour rather than hers.

Katarzyna wrote:Problem is the public don’t like her. She’s too thirsty for attention and her flaunting of his wealth is just hypocritical. She has no idea. In the vogue interview they refer to nannies, chefs and staff. The hairdressers and make up artists are flaunted. She makes no effort to hide her massive spending of George’s money while claiming to care about the poor.
In your opinion, sure. But your opinion isn't a reflection of how everyone or even most people think. And if you're going to criticise, you need to get facts right: she's never said anything about caring for the poor.

Katarzyna wrote: In addition George’s PR keep trying to portray her as ‘beautiful’. The public know what a beautiful woman is and it’s not Amal.
Clearly George does think she's beautiful and surely that's the point? Do you insist now that she must appear to be beautiful to every person because that's an impossibility.

Katarzyna wrote: I just remember Celine Balitran saying George hates high maintenance women who spend all their time on clothes and shopping. Yet look at Amal?
There are two possible answers to this, and you can guess which is more likely:

1. George completely changed his personality.
2. You're misjudging Amal because you don't know her and have no idea what's going on in their lives
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Post by ladybugcngc on Wed 02 May 2018, 07:13

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ladybugcngc wrote:Donna, nobody can convince me the paps outside Amal door were not hired to be there.
 Well, then you have no understanding of how the paparazzi work. Nobody has to hire them: they get their money from selling the photos they take.  All anyone has to do is to alert them to the fact that a celebrity who's worth taking photos of is at a particular place, and they'll show up.

Now, if you'd written 'Nobody can convince me that the paps outside the door weren't asked to be there', then we'd be in agreement.  They clearly weren't there all the time so I guess they got the call whenever they were wanted.  IMO, the only exception was the guy who got pictures of Amal with Ella - I think that was unplanned and those photos have been largely buried.  Amal doesn't have that kind of clout to keep photos out of the media, but George's PR team certainly do.

Maybe that's how it works with a celebrity.  I'm talking about Amal, my position is the paps were hired to be.  You have every right to believe they were there to get a picture, to sell to someone who would be interested. 

I have heard very little from George Clooney's PR team regarding his relationship with Amal Clooney.  Maybe that has something to do with how their marriage relationship is structured.
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Ladybug, Amal is a celebrity. I know you don't want that to be the case, but that's a fact. Pictures of her sell. That's why the paps were taking the photos and will continue to take photos.

You'll never hear anything from George's PR team about anything. They work quietly behind the scenes.
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Post by annemarie on Wed 02 May 2018, 10:12

What is his PR supposed to say, this is his marriage and it is private. Amal has only one interview for the Vogue  that is after over three years of marriage. They do choose to  keep their private life private and away from the public eye.

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Admin wrote:Ladybug, Amal is a celebrity.   I know you don't want that to be the case, but that's a fact.  Pictures of her sell.  That's why the paps were taking the photos and will continue to take photos.

You'll never hear anything from George's PR team about anything.  They work quietly behind the scenes.
Again you have every right to believe Amal is a celebrity, people are interested, and pictures of her sell.  I understand Amal is a wanna be celebrity and other than the people on this blog  and her family nobody is interested.   The Soho fiasco is a perfect example, other than the paps there was NOBODY outside the Soho house trying to get Amal's attention. Celebrities have people who are interested in their comings and goings.  Other than people paid to take pictures of her, Amal obviously does not.

I've followed George Clooney's life for 10 years and I've always heard confirmation from Stan regarding George Clooney's serious life accounts.  Now it is "a representative"/"someone close to thee family" verifying information.

Katie, we obviously see Amal differently.  I extend your right to view Amal as a celebrity.  I view Amal as an attorney in a marriage relationship with a celebrity, nothing more and nothing less.
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Post by annemarie on Wed 02 May 2018, 13:53

I don't remember Stan announcing anything about George's private life. Stan has denied stories that are not true or says no comment. 

Ladybug , most of the comments come from unknown sources that does not mean it is from George or Amal. The paps will take any story they can get whether true or not and they also don't check their facts. That is how misinformation gets spread.
Take for example the 9 million in jewels Amal was supposed to be wearing in Vogue. We clearly saw she wasn't . That is simply them not checking the facts.

As for Amal supposed hunger for fame if she were fame hungry we would see way more of her than we do . She would be at every envelope opening and dog walking party there is.  And she could have the attention on the same level as 
the Kardashians simply because of her last name.

She is rarely, seen at all except when working or with George so no I don't think she is interested in it at all. The paps
come with being George's wife. She get's on with her life and they  keep their life private. We don't know a lot about
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Post by LizzyNY on Wed 02 May 2018, 14:04

I don't know Amal Clooney. From what I do know there are things I respect her for and things I don't like. But where her public image is concerned - the pap walks and arranged "random" photo shoots- I think George is probably as much to blame as she is - if not more. He seems to have an image of himself as a world player and wants his wife to fit the scenario.

I think his pal Anna Wintour suggested the Sullivan St. house and worked with George's people to set up Amal's daily photo shoots as a lead-up to the Met Gala. I think George loves the kind of publicity it brought Amal, and I think Amal liked playing dress-up. IMO she loves the attention as long as it doesn't intrude too much into her private life.

Ladybug - How do you know there was nobody else outside the Soho house? Were you there?
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LizzyNY wrote:Ladybug - How do you know there was nobody else outside the Soho house? Were you there?
Other than the paps I saw zero.
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annemarie wrote:I don't remember Stan announcing anything about George's private life. Stan has denied stories that are not true or says no comment. 

Ladybug , most of the comments come from unknown sources that does not mean it is from George or Amal. The paps will take any story they can get whether true or not and they also don't check their facts. That is how misinformation gets spread.
Take for example the 9 million in jewels Amal was supposed to be wearing in Vogue. We clearly saw she wasn't . That is simply them not checking the facts.

As for Amal supposed hunger for fame if she were fame hungry we would see way more of her than we do . She would be at every envelope opening and dog walking party there is.  And she could have the attention on the same level as 
the Kardashians simply because of her last name.

She is rarely, seen at all except when working or with George so no I don't think she is interested in it at all. The paps
come with being George's wife. She get's on with her life and they  keep their life private. We don't know a lot about
their life because they keep it to them selves.
Annemarie we both seem to agree Amal is NOT a celebrity.  

I do believe the paps were hired to be outside the Soho house and that's why I see her as a wanna be celebrity.
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Post by LizzyNY on Wed 02 May 2018, 15:43

ladybugcngc wrote:Other than the paps I saw zero.
You saw "zero"? Where were you? Were you there watching the house 24/7? Sweetie, you may believe the paps were the only ones there, but unless you were there watching you have no proof that it's true. If nothing else, this is a busy street in a very busy city. Hundreds of people pass by every day - some of them might even care that Amal was staying there.
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Post by ladybugcngc on Wed 02 May 2018, 15:56

LizzyNY wrote:
ladybugcngc wrote:Other than the paps I saw zero.
You saw "zero"? Where were you? Were you there watching the house 24/7? Sweetie, you may believe the paps were the only ones there, but unless you were there watching you have no proof that it's true. If nothing else, this is a busy street in a very busy city. Hundreds of people pass by every day - some of them might even care that Amal was staying there.
Interesting...  Surely all of those things are possible.  Possible; however not likely.
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Post by LizzyNY on Wed 02 May 2018, 16:35

No. What is not likely is that the paps were the only ones there. Unless the street was barricaded at both ends (NEVER happened) plenty of people passed by that house every day. Whether they cared that the Clooneys were staying there is another matter, but the street certainly wasn't closed to foot traffic just for their convenience. Anyone who wanted to walk down that street - including the paps - was free to do so - and DID.
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Post by ladybugcngc on Wed 02 May 2018, 16:44

LizzyNY wrote:No. What is not likely is that the paps were the only ones there. Unless the street was barricaded at both ends (NEVER happened) plenty of people passed by that house every day. Whether they cared that the Clooneys were staying there is another matter, but the street certainly wasn't closed to foot traffic just for their convenience. Anyone who wanted to walk down that street - including the paps - was free to do so - and DID.
No, all they had to do was secure the area around her door step.  There were NO OTHER PEOPLE in the photos and video I saw.

I think next time they want to set-up Amal in a photo shoot like that, they should pay a crowd to look and seem interested.

Lizzy I welcome the banter, however, maybe we should agree to disagree on this issue.
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Post by annemarie on Wed 02 May 2018, 17:07

Ladybug, also the paps don't have to be on the same side of the street when they take pictures they can be across the street.
So there really is no way of telling how may were there. Also different ones can show up at different times.

The paps weren't rude they took the pictures and Amal got on with her day. No need to secure anything I don't think

either George or Amal take this so seriously. They know when they are in public what to expect and how to handle it

they do that with class and respect. The paps are a part of the price they pay for what they have and they both know that.

Ladybug, I would like to know , how do you know that only people on this site and Nat's are interested in Amal .

Have you spoken to all George's fans around the world? 

With the internet the pictures go around the world so George's fans can all see them.  George's life has always been

of interest too his fans his personal life included. The only difference now is Amal is his wife and she is a big part of his life

Simply put interest in Amal is because she is George's wife just as the interest in his girlfriends was because they were with him.

And whether you believe it or not those picture of them together or her alone make money for the rags and the paps.

That is why the pictures are taken and sold money .

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Post by What Would He Say on Wed 02 May 2018, 17:21

annemarie wrote:What is his PR supposed to say, this is his marriage and it is private. Amal has only one interview for the Vogue  that is after over three years of marriage. They do choose to  keep their private life private and away from the public eye.


Ohhhh. AnneM private life private. C’mon.... this marriage is kept in a hat box..... bought out like an accessory... to be shown off or as they say across the pond show boated when their privacy doesn’t fit the bill, the narrative.... Funny that, I don’t know of anyone else who treats the sanctity of marriage like an accessory to their lives.... I thought it was supposed to be the beginning center and end of your life, your family life.... 

I got that one wrong....
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Post by ladybugcngc on Wed 02 May 2018, 17:26

Annemarie, again we seem to agree on some things when it comes to Amal.

Maybe we should just agree to disagree on other issues.
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Post by LizzyNY on Wed 02 May 2018, 17:37

Ladybug - Just a note: There were other people in some of the photos. Don't ask me which ones. Scroll back and look for them yourself.

I don't know if you've ever been here, but if you're coming to visit there's something you should know: New Yorkers don't take kindly to being manipulated because someone feels entitled. Unless there was actual construction work going on in front of the house no one was going to keep anyone from walking there. The paps or her security might try to stop people fro walking there but, I guarantee you most people wpuldn't take it well. Pulling rank or saying "Don't you know who I am?" is guaranteed to get you a "Yes, I do/No, I don't and I don't give a rat's ass so f**k off!".
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Post by ladybugcngc on Wed 02 May 2018, 18:14

LizzyNY wrote:Ladybug - Just a note: There were other people in some of the photos. Don't ask me which ones. Scroll back and look for them yourself.

I don't know if you've ever been here, but if you're coming to visit there's something you should know: New Yorkers don't take kindly to being manipulated because someone feels entitled. Unless there was actual construction work going on in front of the house no one was going to keep anyone from walking there. The paps or her security might try to stop people fro walking there but, I guarantee you most people wpuldn't take it well. Pulling rank or saying "Don't you know who I am?" is guaranteed to get you a "Yes, I do/No, I don't and I don't give a rat's ass so f**k off!".
Lizzy, I live in Los Angeles, Hollywood.  I know how these things work.  

I've seen organized celebrity photo ops' and I've seen paps out and about.  I have never seen anything like the Soho door step fiasco.  I've lived here my entire life 30+years.

Bottom line, I've looked at several photos and a video and I ONLY saw people with cameras.  Maybe if I scroll back other people "now" appear.  My position here is very clear, in my opinion the paps were HIRED to be there with NO interest from the surrounding public.


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Post by annemarie on Wed 02 May 2018, 18:15

Yes you are wrong, marriage is not the beginning and end of your life. It is simply a part of your life which continues after you are married and have a family.And if you are lucky it will be a great part of you life and something you will cherish.

We know next too nothing about their life as a couple, I am sure there is much more that George doesn't talk about.

And in the Vogue interview Amal didn't say much , which is how they keep their privacy. Others can speculate and tell lies 
they are the one's who know the truth.

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Post by Lilia on Wed 02 May 2018, 18:18

Actually the Soho house is her brother's house (ziad)

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Post by annemarie on Wed 02 May 2018, 18:29

Ladybug,  I would love to know how you know how many of George's fans are interested in his wife.

George has many fans in different countries so how exactly do you know it is only the one's here and on Nat's site.

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ladybugcngc wrote:Again you have every right to believe Amal is a celebrity, people are interested, and pictures of her sell.
 No, it's not a "right" to believe she's a celebrity.  It's a fact, not an opinion.  

You may wish as much as you want that she's not famous, but you'd be wrong in that.  And because you want to pretend she's not a celebrity, you've got to scrabble for some other, ludicrous, 'explanation' of what's going on.  

The fact is simple: she's a celebrity (meaning, somewhat famous) and of interest to the media.  Paparazzi pictures of her have been published worldwide because many other people are interested in seeing those pictures and reading about her (that's a definition of celebrity).

The only case for discussion is whether those paparazzi were told when she'd be coming out of the house each day, or if they were hanging around the way they do to celebrities when they find out where they live.  Personally I think they were told.

ladybugcngc wrote:  I understand Amal is a wanna be celebrity and other than the people on this blog  and her family nobody is interested.
 No, you don't understand at all.  I'm politely asking you to stop making up lies otherwise I'm going to have to ban you and your other fake accounts from this site.  You may wish as much as you want, and break out your meat puppet accounts to back you up, but that doesn't make what you wish true.  

ladybugcngc wrote: The Soho fiasco is a perfect example, other than the paps there was NOBODY outside the Soho house trying to get Amal's attention. Celebrities have people who are interested in their comings and goings. 
 I don't even know where to go with this bullshit.  You claim that on the basis of looking at "several photos and one video" that you know everything that was happening on a street for 24-hours a day for over three weeks??  Come on.  
Lie to yourself if it makes you feel better, but don't ask anyone here to believe you.

ladybugcngc wrote: I've followed George Clooney's life for 10 years and I've always heard confirmation from Stan regarding George Clooney's serious life accounts.  Now it is "a representative"/"someone close to thee family" verifying information.
 Sigh.  No, you really haven't.  And I know you love to pretend that George and Amal aren't really married, so this is just another excuse that you've just invented for pretending that it's not a relationship.  

ladybugcngc wrote: Katie, we obviously see Amal differently.  I extend your right to view Amal as a celebrity. 
 Yes, we see Amal differently.  I see her as she really is and you see her as you wish she could be.  You live in a fantasy world where whatever you make up is real.  I live in reality.

Just to make it extra super duper clear to you.  It's not "a right" to see Amal as a celebrity, just as it's not my 'right' to see water as wet or the sun as being hot.  It's a fact.  You're perfectly in your rights to believe she's not a celebrity, as long as a) you're aware that you're lying to yourself, and b) don't ask anyone else on this forum to accept your fantasy.  Otherwise I will close your account.

ladybugcngc wrote:  I view Amal as an attorney in a marriage relationship with a celebrity, nothing more and nothing less.
 Yes, we all know that you don't believe George and Amal are really married or in a real relationship.  Carry on with your wishful thinking but don't ask anyone else to believe it.

Lilia wrote:Actually the Soho house is her brother's house (ziad)
 Really?  Because the owner's name was reported because of legal violations and it wasn't her brother.
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Katie, again I extend to you your right to believe Amal is a celebrity and your belief the general public is interested in Amal.  I DON'T.  Because I don't see Amal as a celebrity and don't believe the general public is interested in her, that does not make me a liar.  That makes make a human with an OPINION.

It is you with the imagination.  I blog with here with ONE ACCOUNT and ONE USER NAME.  I don't use multiple accounts.  

My position is : the Soho doorstep fiasco were paps HIRED TO BE THERE, you have the right to believe whatever you want to believe.

I believe George Clooney and Amal Clooney are in a marriage relationship, as Annemarie stated they are the only people who know the extent of their relationship.  I've followed George Clooney through 3 romantic relationships, an engagement, a tie the knot marriage ceremony, 4 year marriage relationship, and twins.   I REALLY want to care about George Clooney's marriage relationship with Amal;  the TRUTH is I DON'T CARE.  I'm really happy with the ten year section of his life I'm connected to, as I've followed him over the years.

I don't live in an imaginary place; I LIVE IN THE TRUTH.  As the saying goes...  YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH.

Katie, yes I have followed George Clooney over 10 years.  I can understand why would try to find an excuse to ban me from the blog.  Calling me a liar because I've expressed my opinion is extremely odd, coming from someone who runs a blog.  A blog is a place where a person can share their opinion, even if it differs from your own.
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