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Post by annemarie on Tue 12 Jun 2018, 13:07

I think congress is letting them do what ever they want, so they can get whatever they want done. You don't bite 
the hand that let's you get a way with murder.

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Post by LizzyNY on Tue 12 Jun 2018, 13:50

Annemarie - What's happening in Washington goes way beyond the usual "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours". Trump and his minions are dismantling our government and destroying our environment. The Democrats aren't the only ones who see it happening. Many Republicans do, too. If they aren't prepared to retire from government as several have done, they keep their mouths shut to get funding for their re-election campaigns. They want to stay in government, no matter what - assuming there's a government left when Trump's people are done.
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Post by annemarie on Tue 12 Jun 2018, 13:52

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5834125/Trump-says-denuclearization-North-Korea-start-quickly.html

[size=34]'Kim is already destroying a testing site' Trump says denuclearization in North Korea will start 'very quickly' despite experts warning that regime 'may not dismantle everything' without US involvement in the process[/size]

  • President Trump said he and Kim had struck a deal after the official signing

  • After the summit Trump said denuclearisation would take 'a very long time'

  • Experts have warned the process will need to be stringently policed by the US 

  • Kim demolished the Punggye-ri test facility last month in front of world media

  • Some experts claimed the first demolition was faked by the North Korean leader 


By GEORGE MARTIN FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 06:46 EDT, 12 June 2018 | UPDATED: 08:30 EDT, 12 June 2018

    



President Trump said on Tuesday that Kim Jong-un had already agreed to dismantle another nuclear test site as he pledged that denuclearisation would go ahead 'very quickly'.
The President said the pair had struck an unofficial understanding that the North Korean leader would dismantle a second testing site after the official signing had taken place at the Singapore summit on Tuesday. 
'North Korea is already destroying a major missile engine testing site,' the President told the assembled world's media.
'I got that after we signed the agreement,' Mr. Trump said of the concession.





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Kim Jong Un and President Trump shake hands prior to their meeting on Sentosa Island in Singapore on Tuesday


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The President holds up a signed agreement between himself and the North Korean leader after the ceremony
'I said, "Do me a favor; we've got this missile-engine testing site. We know where it is because of the heat." It's incredible the equipment we have, to be honest with you.'
After the landmark summit with Kim, the President said North Korea would be progressing with the denuclearisation process 'very quickly' but warned that it might take 'a very long time'.
'We're starting that process very quickly. Very, very quickly. Absolutely,' he said. 
'Scientifically, denuclearisation takes a very long time.'
Trump did not give a location for the testing site, but reaffirmed his faith in the North Korean leader, adding: 'I think he's going to do these things.'
But experts have warned that the process of denuclearisation will need to be stringently policed by the US.
'They're not going to eliminate everything, and there're some things that aren't a problem. Some of the risks are manageable,' federal adviser Siegfried S. Hecker said in an interview last month.







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Kim Jong-un inspects the deal he co-signed with President Trump at the Singapore summit


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The President told the world's media that he and Kim had agreed to the demolition of another test site in North Korea after the official signing


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Hecker, who has visited the North Korean sites on a number of occasions, warned that the full-disarmament programme could take up to 15 years. 
'We're talking about dozens of sites, hundreds of buildings, and thousands of people,' he added.
Hecker also said the key to assuring full-denuclearisation would go ahead as planned would be to compensate the North for the loss of its nuclear capabilities. 
'The key is to establish a different relationship with North Korea where its security rests on something other than nuclear weapons,' Hecker said.
Kim Jong-un has already staged a very public demolition of one of his nuclear test sites, the Punggye-ri test facility, in front of the world's press on May 25.
But other security experts warned that the demonstration may have been nothing more than a red herring.








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A photo taken on May 24, 2018 shows the entrance to a nuclear test tunnel at North Korea's Punggye-ri test facility prior to its demolition


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Blown up: This satellite image from yesterday shows the Punggye-ri test site in North Korea, which has now reportedly been demolished


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The second tunnel and an observatory of Punggye-ri nuclear test ground is blown up during the dismantlement process in Punggye-ri
Preliminary analysis of seismic sensors in the region suggest the blasts were not strong enough to collapse the underground tunnels intended for demolition, a US official told CNN.
Journalists were placed only around 500 meters away from the explosions - another sign, according to experts, that they were not that strong. 
A third piece of evidence was the big plume of dust seen in footage of the explosions. It has been suggested that shows the blast was surface level rather than deep in the ground. 
CNN also reported that imagery shows technical equipment was removed from the tunnel complex prior to the detonations - raising the possibility it could be used elsewhere or return at a later date. 
The President said on Tuesday that US secretary of state Mike Pompeo and North Korean officials will hold follow-up negotiations 'at the earliest possible date' after the Singapore summit.
For now, it remains unclear what how long the denuclearisation programme will take to complete and how it will be carried out.


[size=34]How the world reacted to the historic meeting between Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un[/size]


The meeting and the joint statement issued by the two adversaries, who until recently were trading insults, has been warming welcomed around the world.
South Koreans watching on television at train stations and other public places broke out into applause while a one-page extra edition of a Japanese newspaper was snapped up commuters.
Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said: 'Hopes for peace on the long-divided Korean Peninsula, however, remain tempered by the many failed attempts in the past.
'The United States and North Korea have been in a state of antagonism for more than half a century.


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South Koreans watching the summit on television begin clapping as they watch the meeting of the two leaders in Singapore 

'Today, that the two countries' highest leaders can sit together and have equal talks, has important and positive meaning, and is creating a new history.'
An editorial in the official English-language China Daily emphasized China's role in bringing Trump and Kim together. It called on them to maintain the positive momentum.
'This would not only reward all those who have spared no efforts in their attempts to make their meeting a reality, it would also enable both to hail it as a success,' the editorial read.
Malaysia's Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad says his country will reopen its embassy in Pyongyang. 
The two countries were embroiled in a diplomatic row after the killing of Kim Jong-nam, Kim Jong-un's half brother, in 2017.
At a train station in Seoul, the South Korean capital, people cheered and applauded as televisions screens broadcast the Trump-Kim handshake live.
Japan's largest newspaper, the Yomiuri, printed a special edition in both Japanese and English that was distributed for free in major cities 90 minutes after the meeting began.


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World reaction to the meeting of Trump and Kim has been warm, with China emphasising its role in bringing then together

Passers-by outside a Tokyo train station snapped up 500 copies in a flash, excited to have a souvenir of the historic event.
They generally welcomed the meeting as a good first step but wondered if any progress would be made on the fate of Japanese abducted by North Korea in the 1970s and 1980s.
'My biggest concern is the abduction issue, then the nuclear and missile,' said 70-year-old retiree Tomoaki Kenmotsu.
'I have no idea how much the abduction issue is being taken up at the summit, but I hope it will be a good start for that issue too.'
The hard work remains to come, said Momoko Shimada, a 20-year-old student: 'After the handshake and political show will be the real action. I believe that won't be easy.'

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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by annemarie on Tue 12 Jun 2018, 19:38

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5834263/Trump-Trudeaus-criticism-cost-Canada-lot-money.html

[size=34]Trump warns Trudeau that criticizing him was a mistake that will cost Canada 'a lot of money' as he doubles down on trade war while praising Kim Jong-Un as 'talented and loved'[/size]

  • Trump's war of words on Trudeau led critics to question why he was bashing a U.S. partner while appearing to cozy up to one of its bitterest long-time foes

  • Trump said he had a good relationship with Trudeau and Kim

  • He vowed U.S. allies will no longer take advantage of America on trade 

  • He said Trudeau must not have known he was watching his post G7 presser:  'Justin probably didn't know that Air Force One has about 20 televisions' 

  • Trump on Kim: 'He's got a great personality. He's a funny guy, he's very smart'


By EMILY GOODIN, U.S. POLITICAL REPORTER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM and WIRES
PUBLISHED: 05:46 EDT, 12 June 2018 | UPDATED: 14:33 EDT, 12 June 2018

    


President Donald Trump says Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau 'learned' from the mistake of criticizing him and it's going to cost Canada 'a lot of money.'
Speaking at a press conference in Singapore on Tuesday, Trump said he decided to back out of the G7 communique after watching Trudeau's closing summit news conference, at which the prime minister warned that Canada would not be pushed around on tariffs - a point Trudeau had made several times before.
'He'll learn that's going to cost a lot of money for the people of Canada. He'll learn, he can't do that,' Trump said.



President Donald Trump spoke to reporters during a press conference after his meeting with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un at the Capella Hotel  and chastised Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau for waiting until he left to say Canada would not be pushed around


The president also said the Canadian leader must not have realized that Trump had televisions on Air Force One, allowing him to monitor Trudeau's news conference.
'I think that Justin probably didn't know that Air Force One has about 20 televisions,' he said.  
Trump recalled watching Trudeau's press conference in an interview with ABC News.
'He talked about how they won't be bullied. And I said 'What's this all about? He didn't do that to my face, what's this all about?' But here's what the story is: We have been taken advantage of as a country for decades by friends and enemies both,' Trump said. 'Our trade is a disaster, our trade deals.' 
Trump's attack on one of America's oldest allies came as he praised North Korea leader Kim Jong-Un as smart, talented and loved.
'He is very talented. Anybody that takes over a situation like he did, at 26 years of age, and is able to run it,' Trump said at his press conference. 'I don't say he was nice or I don't say anything about it - he ran it. Very few people, at that age - you can take one out of ten thousand, probably, couldn't do it.'
The president told ABC News that Kim will be very happy with the agreement the two men signed in Singapore on Tuesday. 
'He's going to be happy. His country does love him. His people, you see the fervor. They have a great fervor,' he said.
And he told Voice of America that Kim is a funny guy.
'He's got a great personality. He's a funny guy, he's very smart, he's a great negotiator,' Trump said. 'He loves his people, not that I'm surprised by that, but he loves his people.'
At his press conference at the end of his summit with Kim, Trump kept up his feud with America's closest allies over trade, saying he could not allow them to continue taking advantage of the United States.
Although he insisted he had a good relationship with Trudeau, Trump took another dig at him, saying the United States had a big trade deficit with Canada and that 'a little balance' was needed.






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President Trump and Justin Trudeau talk at the G7 meeting
'We are being taken advantage of by virtually every one of those countries,' Trump told a news conference on Tuesday. 'Look, countries cannot continue to take advantage of us on trade. 
The escalating clash with Trudeau cast a shadow over the Trump's nuclear talks with Kim and led critics to question why the president was bashing U.S. partners while appearing to cosy up to one of Washington's bitterest long-time foes. 
'I have a good relationship with Justin. And I have a, I think, a very good relationship with Chairman Kim right now,' Trump said. 
Trump fired off a volley of tweets on Monday further venting anger at NATO allies, the European Union and Trudeau. Some of Trump's aides also lashed out at the Canadian prime minister.

Trump Takes Trudeau To Task



'When I got out to the plane, I think that Justin probably didn't know that Air Force One has about 20 televisions. 
And I see the television and he's giving a news conference about how he will not be pushed around by the United States and I say push him around? 
We just shook hands. It was very friendly. ... No, I have a good relationship with Justin Trudeau. I really did, other than he had a news conference, that he had because he assumed I was in an airplane and I wasn't watching. 
He learned. That's going to cost a lot of money for the people of Canada. He learned. You can't do that. You can't do that.'



Trump's extraordinary outburst in recent days appeared aimed at striking a chord with voters who support his 'America First' agenda. 'Not fair to the people of America! $800 billion trade deficit,' he tweeted on Monday.
In the same set of tweets, Trump said: 'Justin acts hurt when called out!'
On Tuesday, Trump said: 'We have a big trade deficit with Canada ... it's close to $100 billion a year deal loss.'
However, the office of the U.S. Trade Representative has said the United States ran an $8.4 billion trade surplus with Canada in 2017.
Canadian officials have stressed the two countries' extensive trading relationship and pointed out that Canada is the top export destination for 35 U.S. states and that 9 million jobs in the United States depend on trade with its northern neighbour.
The White House escalated the war of words against Trudeau before the summit began with Trump aides taking to the Sunday morning public affair shows to blast the Canadian prime minister.
'He really kind of stabbed us in the back. He really, actually, you know: he did a great disservice to the whole G-7. He betrayed,' White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow said on CNN's 'State of the Union' Sunday morning.


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President Donald Trump meets North Korean leader Kim Jong Un at the Capella Hotel on Sentosa island in Singapore


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President Donald Trump and North Korea's leader Kim Jong Un shake hands following a signing ceremony during their historic U.S.-North Korea summit
'You just don't behave that way. It's a betrayal. Essentially double-crossing,' Kudlow said of Trudeau's challenge to the president on tariffs at the G7 summit in Canada.
He then said Trudeau was aiming to make Trump look weak ahead of his historic meeting with Kim. The president left the G7 summit early in order to fly to Singapore for that summit.
Trump 'is not gonna let a Canadian prime minister push him around,' Kudlow said. 'He is not going to permit any show of weakness on a trip to negotiate with North Korea.'
'He can't put Trump in a position of being weak going into the North Korean talks. He can't do that. And by the way, President Trump is not weak,' he noted. 
'Kim must not see American weakness. It's that short.'   
Director of the White House National Trade Council Peter Navarro joined in the bashing.
'There's a special place in hell for any foreign leader that engages in bad faith diplomacy with President Donald J. Trump and then tries to stab him in the back on the way out the door,' he said on 'Fox News Sunday.' 'That's what bad faith Justin Trudeau did with that stunt press conference.' 
Navarro added: 'To my friends in Canada, that was one of the worst political miscalculations of a Canadian leader in modern Canadian history.'
Navarro apologized for his remarks on Tuesday, Bloomberg News reported.


'My job was to send a signal of strength,' he said at a conference in Washington. 'The problem was that in conveying that message I used language that was inappropriate.'
Canadian Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland defended the prime minister on Sunday, saying that Canada doesn't find attacks 'appropriate or useful.'
'Canada does not believe that ad hominem attacks are a particularly appropriate or useful way to conduct our relations with other countries,' she said at a press conference.
The trade dispute was launched after Trump last week removed exemptions from steel and aluminum tariffs on imports from Canada, Mexico and the EU.
Canada responded by slapping tariffs on $12.8 billion worth of US exports, including metals, toilet paper, ball point pens and pizza.
'We're like the piggy bank that everybody is robbing,' Trump said at a press conference as he departed the two-day meeting in La Malbaie, Quebec on Saturday.
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Post by annemarie on Wed 13 Jun 2018, 20:07

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5839835/Former-Trump-lawyer-Michael-Cohen-expected-cooperate-prosecutors-replace-lawyers.html

[size=34]Has Cohen flipped? Former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen 'set to cooperate with prosecutors' as he moves to replace his lawyers and tells friends he'll be arrested in a matter of days[/size]

  • Cohen served as the longtime lawyer for Donald Trump

  • He has been under criminal investigation for potential bank and wire fraud as well as tax issues relating to his taxi business

  • He said he used a home bank loan to wire a $130,000 'hush' payment to porn star Stormy Daniels 

  • The firm handling discovery of a trove documents from an FBI raid is no longer expected to represent him

  • The developments come hours after Trump returned to the U.S. from Singapore

  • The president is under pressure to answer questions from Mueller directly  


By GEOFF EARLE, DEPUTY U.S. POLITICAL EDITOR FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 10:54 EDT, 13 June 2018 | UPDATED: 14:41 EDT, 13 June 2018

    

President Donald Trump's longtime lawyer Michael Cohen is parting ways with his legal team just days before a critical deadline, in a move that could signal a new legal strategy or even a decision to cooperate with prosecutors.
Cohen, who served as a fixer for Donald Trump before he was president, has been under criminal investigation for bank and wire fraud as well as tax issues relating to his taxi business.
Cohen has been represented by lawyer Stephen Ryan, a Washington, D.C. lawyer with the firm of McDermott, Will & Emery. 
There was no official court filing and no official reasons have been given for the split, first reported by ABC News. But the sudden move, in advance of a Friday court deadline for going through millions of documents, led to immediate speculation by sources that Cohen would move to cooperate with prosecutors.

 The firm is expected to no longer represent him going forward reported, unidentified sources told ABC. The sources said they expect Cohen to cooperate.
There are other possible reasons, which could even involve billing for the skyrocketing costs of the defense.


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Michael Cohen, personal lawyer to U.S. President Donald Trump, center, exits federal court in New York, U.S., on Wednesday, May 30, 2018
Michael Avenatti, the lawyer for porn star Stormy Daniels, estimated that Cohen's costs were reaching up to $500,000 per week – 'not a typo,' he wrote. 
Cohen's break from the firm also includes Ryan's co-counsel, Todd Harrison.
Although there is not evidence of it yet, the split could also be a sign of some unknown friction between Cohen and his lawyers, possibly involving something discovered in the trove of documents seized by the FBI.
 Philadelphia trial lawyer Max Kennerly tweeted some other scenarios, including the possibility that 'something found in the raid contradicts what he told his lawyers.'
The investigation and potential charges have put him under tremendous pressure in the Southern District of New York, while special counsel Robert Mueller continues his Russia probe.
during the complex fight over sorting through documents to determine what is privileged communication between the lawyer and client Trump.
The Wall Street Journal confirmed the firm's departure, but said people familiar with the matter said Cohen had not decided whether to cooperate. 
The report indicated Cohen wanted to hire a new lawyer with close ties to the Manhattan District Attorney's office. 
Ryan is a Washington-D.C. based lawyer. 
CNN reported that Cohen has yet to meet with prosecutors to discuss any potential cooperation agreement.
Lawyers have been poring over 3.7 million documents seized in an FBI raid of Cohen's home and office. 
Ryan did not immediately return a call seeking comment. 
Cohen has been telling friends he expects to be arrested imminently, the New York Daily News reported. 
A source told the publication Cohen fears he will get indicted and arrested. 


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'Trump should be super worried about Michael Cohen,' an official said. 'If anyone can blow up Trump, it's him'
President Trump has branded the probe a 'witch hunt' and acknowledged the pressure Cohen is under. 
The potential charges prompted federal agents to raid Cohen's home in Manhattan on April 9. 
Federal Judge Kimba Wood has given Cohen's lawyer until Friday to sort through remaining documents seized in the raid. A 'special master' is overseeing the process.

 
Cohen negotiated a nondisclosure agreement with porn star Stormy Daniels, who claims she had an affair with Trump in 2006. Cohen signed the deal, although Trump, who was identified by a pseudonym, did not.  He later reimbursed Cohen for up to $250,000, according to a financial disclosure form.
President Trump blasted the FBI raid on Cohen after it happened.
'It's a real disgrace,' the president told reporters. 'It's an attack on our country in a true sense. It's an attack on what we all stand for.'
Trump tweeted in May: 'Mr. Cohen, an attorney, received a monthly retainer, not from the campaign and having nothing to do with the campaign, from which he entered into, through reimbursement, a private contract between two parties, known as a non-disclosure agreement, or NDA.'
He continued in the pair of tweets: 'These agreements are...very common among celebrities and people of wealth. In this case it is in full force and effect and will be used in Arbitration for damages against Ms. Clifford (Daniels). The agreement was used to stop the false and extortionist accusations made by her about an affair.'


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Donald Trump lawyer Michael Cohen and his wife Lauren Cohen were seen out in Tribeca after having lunch at Tribeca Grill in New York City
Trump concluded: '...despite already having signed a detailed letter admitting that there was no affair. Prior to its violation by Ms. Clifford and her attorney, this was a private agreement. Money from the campaign, or campaign contributions, played no roll in this transaction.'
Daniels' real name is Stephanie Clifford. 
Cohen has been working for Trump since 2011 in an assortment of roles, earning himself the nickname 'bulldog.' 
An ex-White House official shared with Vanity Fair that Trump should definitely be concerned if Cohen turns on him.  

'Trump should be super worried about Michael Cohen,' the official said to Vanity Fair. 'If anyone can blow up Trump, it's him.'
Cohen sent a text message to Vanity Fair, asserting that 'your alleged source is wrong!'  
The embattled attorney is also under the radar of special counsel Robert Mueller as he works to find links of collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign. 
Shortly after Trump's election, a plethora of companies gave millions to Cohen's consulting firm - Essential Consultants. 
One such company was Columbus Nova, a Manhattan based investment firm whose primary client is Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg. 
The latest in the Cohen courtroom saga is that a federal judge ruled on Friday that Trump would have to publicly object to documents he seeks to have protected from prosecutors' examination, according to the New York Post. 



Retired judge Barbara Jones is combing through the materials obtained by agents in their search and seizure of items at Mr. Cohen's law office and home on April 9.
Her role is to root out any documents that might be protected under lawyer-client confidentiality between Trump and Mr. Cohen.
Jones' first report, issued on June 4, indicated that only a small portion of the documents she had reviewed up until now are protected by privilege.
Trump's attorney in the matter, Joanna Hendon, had hoped to make her case privately to Judge Kimba Wood as to why at least one designation was inaccurate.
'The submissions at issue will disclose matters pertaining to privilege and the grand jury investigation, exclusively,' Hendon wrote.
Prosecutors opposed the objections being made privately, and Wood sided with the state.
'(The) objections should be filed publicly, except for those portions that divulge the substance of the contested documents,' Wood wrote.


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President Donald Trump's long-time personal attorney Michael Cohen exits a New York court on April 16, 2018 in New York City, accompanied by attorney Stephen Ryan
Stormy Daniels attorney Michael Avenatti jumped on the report, and went after Cohen's counsel. Avenatti himself stepped back from the New York case after the judge warned the California lawyer he couldn't get dispensation to handle the case while also going on a publicity tour.
'So after Mr. Ryan makes false accusations against me in fed court, he now abandons Mr. Cohen, withdraws, tucks his tail between his legs, & goes home? Just like David Schwartz before him!! Not a good look and a disaster for Mr. Cohen and Mr. Trump. #Basta' Avenatti tweeted.
After the feds raided Cohen, Trump blasted the move on Twitter. 'Attorney-client privilege is dead!' Trump wrote.
The president cast it as an attack on the country, although other observers said it could put pressure on Trump in the Russia probe. Cohen represented Trump in a series of business and personal matters beyond the Daniels case. He was involved in talks with Russians over a potential Trump Tower Moscow during the presidential campaign.
'It's an attack on our country in a true sense. It's an attack on all we stand for,' Trump said after the raid. 'That is really now on a whole new level of unfairness.'

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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by LizzyNY on Wed 13 Jun 2018, 21:23

It's really funny how this is an attack on our country "in a true sense" (because it's about him) but Russia's proven meddling in our elections is no big deal. I hope Cohen sings like a canary and gives up every skeleton in Trump's closet.
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Post by annemarie on Wed 13 Jun 2018, 22:22

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5840877/Rudy-Giulianis-son-loses-West-Wing-access-John-Kelly-refuses-Trumps-order-promote-him.html

[size=34]Rudy Giuliani's son loses West Wing access at White House after Chief of Staff John Kelly refuses Trump's order to promote him [/size]

  • Trump ordered Andrew Giuliani promoted to special assistant after dining with Rudy Giuliani at Mar-a-Lago 

  • Kelly objected because he thinks Andrew 'subverts the chain of command' 

  • Instead Kelly took Andrew's blue staff pass, which gave him West Wing access, and left him with a lower level green staff pass

  • Andrew worked on Trump's campaign and has played golf with him

  • The president is said to be fond of him 


By EMILY GOODIN, U.S. POLITICAL REPORTER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 14:46 EDT, 13 June 2018 | UPDATED: 15:40 EDT, 13 June 2018

    


Andrew Giuliani, the son of Rudy Giuliani, has lost his West Wing access after the White House chief of staff refused to follow President Donald Trump's order to have him promoted.
The young Giuliani was a junior staffer who Trump ordered promoted to special assistant to the president - a third level staff position - after dining with the elder Giuliani at Mar-a-Lago, Axios reported.
Trump told his body man, Jordan Karem, to ensure Chief of Staff John Kelly promoted Andrew. 


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Andrew Giulian, son of Rudy Giuliani, lost his West Wing access after the White House chief of staff refused to promote him


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White House chief of staff John Kelly objected because he thinks Andrew 'subverts the chain of command'


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Andrew is the son of Rudy Giuliani and Donna Hanover
But Kelly and other White House staff nixed the plan because they think Andrew 'subverts the chain of command.' They also contend Andrew has other issues in the workplace that they weren't happy about, two sources told Axios.

Kelly took away Andrew's blue staff pass about two weeks ago, which got him access into the West Wing. Andrew now only has a green pass, which means he needs an escort to enter the inner circle of the White House.
Andrew's current title is Public Liaison Assistant.
Another source told Axios the president is 'genuinely fond' of Andrew, and believes he helped mend the father-son relationship after Rudy and Andrew's mother divorced.
Donna Hanover split with the former New York City mayor in 2002.
Andrew also volunteered on the Trump campaign. Additionally, he's an excellent golfer and has played many rounds with Trump.


'The president has been there for me, for the good times, but more importantly through the bad. That's just the kind of man he is. I'm grateful that he's always been willing to give me his advice on personal matters and I consider him to be my good friend and even a father figure. His family is my family,' Andrew told Axios in a statement. 
It's unclear whether Trump knows the promotion didn't happen.
The younger Giuliani became a national figure after his childhood antics during his father's first mayoral inauguration were parodied on 'Saturday Night Live.' Young Andrew repeated parts of his father's oath as the elder Giuliani was sworn in.

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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by carolhathaway on Thu 14 Jun 2018, 06:44

What do you guys think about the agreement between Trump and Kim Jong Un?
If I was naive, I'd think: "Finally, somebody found out how to deal with Kim, appearantly because they are like-minded. And that's good for the world"
But since I'm not naive and after I've read analyses about the agreement, it's much more difficult. The agreement only contenrs letters of intend, no solutions for South Korea and Japan who - assome of you might remember - have been US allies for decades.

I'm still surprised about how much power your POTUS actually has and what he's able to decide without asking Congress. I've never noticed that before and am not sure I didn't pay that much attention or if former Presidents simply haven't done it like Tru,p does. He decides, signs agreements and denounces others without asking anybody, and you hear critics from Democrats and some Republicans as well, but nothing substantial from either of them. 
That's a different side of democracy as I'd understand it - if it's a democracy at all (and I have never questioned that before).
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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by annemarie on Thu 14 Jun 2018, 10:39

I don't believe congress is so afraid of him, I think they simply don't rock the boat if we are all looking at the jackass
no one is looking at them.

If president Obama had done anything this jackass has he would have been impeached in a blink of an eye.

I don't believe Kim is going to destroy millions in nuclear weapons, when he did blow up something for the press

I think it was old machinery.

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Post by LizzyNY on Thu 14 Jun 2018, 13:37

Carolhathaway - Our Congress does have powers to keep the president in check, but they aren't using them.
   1) Many Republican Congressmen are afraid they'll lose their jobs if they challenge Trump. If he  comes out against them, they'll raise less money for their election campaigns and could lose their jobs.
   2) The two parties have been fighting for so long that it's difficult for them to agree on anything. Many of the things they could do require a majority vote of Congress and that means they would have to work together. Right now that isn't happening.
   3) Trump and his corrupt appointees work behind the scenes to nibble away at all kinds of programs through "executive orders" which don't require Congressional approval. Much of this is being challenged in the courts as many affected groups are suing the government.
   4) There are congressmen who wholeheartedly embrace Trump's policies.

Eventually something will happen to "dethrone" Trump. Hopefully sooner rather than later.
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Post by annemarie on Thu 14 Jun 2018, 14:46

I'm afraid it will come down to the election and there are still a lot of people who support the jackass. Of course it depends on who runs against him as well.

I can't think yeah he will lose, I thought he couldn't possible win and he did .

I was hoping Mueller's investigation would find something, but right now I am starting too doubt that as well.

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Post by annemarie on Thu 14 Jun 2018, 18:32

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5844653/New-York-attorney-general-sues-Trumps-family-charity-persistent-illegal-conduct.html

[size=34]New York attorney general sues President Trump, his family and its charity for 'persistent illegal conduct' after foundation used donations to pay creditors and stage a campaign event[/size]

  • Prosecutors charged Trump with repeatedly misusing his nonprofit for non-charitable items 

  • The attorney general asks for Donald J. Trump Foundation to be dissolved and for $2.8 million in restitution and penalities

  • Donald Trump Jr., Ivanka Trump and Eric Trump were named in the lawsuit because they sit on the board

  • Prosecutors say Trump kids should have kept their father's spending in check 

  • Trump slammed the suit in series of tweets made almost immediately after knowledge of the suit became public 

  • He charged 'sleazy' New York Democrats with 'doing everything they can to sue me on a foundation that took in $18,800,000 and gave out to charity more money than it took in, $19,200,000. I won't settle this case!'


By EMILY GOODIN, U.S. POLITICAL REPORTER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 11:08 EDT, 14 June 2018 | UPDATED: 13:09 EDT, 14 June 2018


New York's attorney general filed suit against President Donald Trump and his three eldest children on Thursday, alleging 'persistently illegal conduct' at the president's personal charity.
The suit is filled with scathing charges against the president and his management of his self-named non-profit. It includes allegations of violations of campaign finance laws and illegal coordination with Trump's presidential campaign.
Prosecutors charge Trump with repeatedly misusing the nonprofit to pay off his businesses' creditors, to decorate one of his golf clubs and to stage a multimillion dollar giveaway at his 2016 campaign events.
In the suit, filed Thursday morning, New York Attorney General Barbara Underwood asked a state judge to dissolve the Donald J. Trump Foundation, according to The Washington Post.

She asked that its remaining $1 million in assets be distributed to other charities and that Trump be forced to pay at least $2.8 million in restitution and penalties.
Trump slammed the suit in series of tweets made almost immediately after knowledge of it became public. 


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New York is suing President Trump's personal charity


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Donald Trump Jr., Ivanka Trump and Eric Trump - pictured here with their father at his inauguration - were also named in the suit


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Trump tweeted back his defense of the suit


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The president was critical of the attorney general's office and of Democrats
He charged 'sleazy' Democrats with coming after him. 
'The sleazy New York Democrats, and their now disgraced (and run out of town) A.G. Eric Schneiderman, are doing everything they can to sue me on a foundation that took in $18,800,000 and gave out to charity more money than it took in, $19,200,000. I won't settle this case!,' he wrote. 
Underwood was promoted to attorney general a fews weeks ago, succeeding Schneiderman after he resigned following allegations that he had physically abused some of his romantic partners.
She is a career staffer, not an elected official, who vowed not to seek election for a full term in the job this fall.
Given the two-year length of the investigation, a majority of it was conducted under Schneiderman, who took office in 2011.
Trump focused on the disgraced politiican in his push back.
'Schneiderman, who ran the Clinton campaign in New York, never had the guts to bring this ridiculous case, which lingered in their office for almost 2 years. Now he resigned his office in disgrace, and his disciples brought it when we would not settle,' he wrote. 
It's unclear what Trump was referring to when he wrote Schneiderman ran the Clinton campaign in New York. 
Schneiderman was New York attorney general during the 2016 campaign. He and Clinton are both Democrats.
During that contest, his office called on Trump's foundation to cease and desist fundraising activities in the state as the charity was under investigation for its spending.
Trump's campaign called for a similar investigation of the Clinton Foundation and said Schneiderman was a 'partisan hack.' 
Schneiderman said concerns about the Clinton Foundation's fundraising did not rise to the level of an investigation. 
Back in 2016, critics of the Clinton Foundation waned a probe of the millions of dollars from individuals who met with the then-secretary of state after either donating or promising to donate to the non-profit, which included funding from foreign governments.
Schneiderman said the rules for reporting government funds have not been found to apply to foreign governments.
In the suit against the Donald J. Trump Foundation, Underwood also asked that Trump be banned from leading any other New York nonprofit for 10 years. It's a penalty usually reserved for the operators of small-time charity frauds.





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Acting New York state Attorney General Barbara Underwood announced the suit


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Trump's children could have to pay millions in fines, depending on a court ruling
Donald Trump Jr., Ivanka Trump and Eric Trump were also named in the lawsuit because they have been official board members of the Donald J. Trump Foundation for years. 
The foundation and its directors could face several million dollars in additional penalties, depending on how the court rules. 
Prosecutors also want to bar Trump's three eldest children from the boards of nonprofits based in New York or that operate in New York for one year.
That could force the children to cut ties with a variety of groups, including charities of their own. 
They were named, Underwood wrote, because board members are supposed to scrutinize spending for signs that its leader — in this case that was their father — was misusing the funds.
She charged they exercised no such oversight. The board had not met since 1999.
'The Foundation is little more than an empty shell that functions with no oversight by its board of directors,' the lawsuit states. 'In the absence of a functioning board, Mr. Trump ran the Foundation according to his whim, rather than the law.'
The investigation came after The Washington Post launched a probe of Trump's charity, writing several articles on the subject during the presidential contest. 
Underwood said their 20-month investigation, which began in June 2016, found Trump repeatedly violated laws that set the ground rules for tax-exempt foundations and his biggest violation was that donor money is meant to serve the public good - not to provide private benefits to the charity's founders.
'As our investigation reveals, the Trump Foundation was little more than a checkbook for payments from Mr. Trump or his businesses to nonprofits, regardless of their purpose or legality,' Underwood said in a statement to The Post.  
She also sent referral letters to the Internal Revenue Service and the Federal Election Commission for possible further action, adding more weight to the legal troubles the president faces. 
She noted in her letters to those agencies there could be 'possible violations' of tax law and federal campaign law. 
Trump is already under investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller on whether he obstructed justice in the probe of Russia's role in the 2016 election.
Now he faces more legal problems because of his charity. 


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Trump slammed former New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman in his critique of the lawsuit


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Trump's 2016 rally in Iowa that raised funds for military veterans is named in the suit as a possible violation of the law


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The suit includes questionable expenses made by the charity, including a $10,000 on a portrait of Trump that was hung at one of his golf clubs
Trump founded his charity to give away some of the royalties from his 1987 book 'The Art of the Deal.' 
But he did not give it any money between 2008 and 2015. It's largest donors are wrestling moguls Vince and Linda McMahon, who gave $5 million total in 2007 and 2009. Linda McMahon was appointed by Trump as head of the Small Business Administration.
Underwood charged the nonprofit was essentially one of Trump's personal checkbooks — a pool of funds that his clerks knew to use whenever Trump wanted to pay money to a nonprofit. 

Charges Against Trump Foundation


 The New York Attorney General's lawsuit charges the Donald J. Trump Foundation was essentially one of President Trump's personal checkbooks. Here are some of the specific charges: 


  • In 2016, the charity's board knowingly permitted the Trump Foundation to be coopted by Trump's presidential campaign and thereby violated its certificate of incorporation and state and federal law by engaging in political activity



  • On January 28, 2016, Trump attended a fundraiser for veterans in Iowa instead of the GOP presidential debate. The Iowa fundraiser was planned, organized, financed and directed by the campaign instead of the charity. Trump's charity ceded control of the funds it raised to senior Trump campaign staff, who dictated the manner in which the foundation would disburse those proceeds, directing the timing, amounts and recipients of the grants.
  • The foundation permitted the campaign to exhibit and award enlarged copies of those grant checks to recipients at campaign rallies for the political benefit.
  • The Foundation ceded control of the grants for veterans to the campaign, which amounted to an improper in-kind contribution of no less than $2.823 million (the amount donated to the Foundation) to the Trump campaign 
  • Trump's wrongful use of the foundation to benefit his campaign was willful and knowing. Trump repeatedly signed, under penalties of perjury, IRS Forms 990, in which he attested that the foundation did not carry out political activity. Trump also signed, again under penalty of perjury, the Foundation's Certificate of in which he certified that the foundation would not use its assets for the benefit of its directors or officers and that it would not intervene in "any political campaign on behalf of any candidate."
  • On September 9, 2013, the foundation issued a check in the amount of $25,000 to "And Justice for All," a political organization in Florida established to support the re-election of Pam Bondi to the position of Florida Attorney General. Private foundations such as the Trump foundation are prohibited from making political contributions.
  • On its 2013 IRS tax return, the foundation did not list the Florida contribution but did list a $25,000 contribution to a Kansas-based Section 501(c)(3) organization with a similar name, Justice for All. Contrary to this disclosure, the foundation never made a contribution to the Kansas-based Justice for All. 
  • Trump initialed a printed copy of the email to indicate his approval for the payment. 
  • The foundation claims its donation to Bondi's campaign was an inadvertent mistake by the Trump Organization's accounting staff it was, at a minimum, a result of the foundation's lack of adequate controls and inadequate supervision of and training of staff performing services.
  • The foundation also entered into the following prohibited self-dealing transactions that directly benefitted Trump or entities that he controlled:
  • On September 11, 2007, the foundation made a $100,000 payment to the Fisher House Foundation to settle of Palm Beach claims against Mar-a-Lago.
  • On February 14, 2012, the foundation made a $158,000 payment to the Martin B. Greenberg Foundation to settle legal claims against The Trump National Golf Club.
  • On November 5, 2013, the foundation made a $5,000 payment to the DC Preservation League, a charitable organization, for promotional space featuring Trump International Hotels in charity event programs.
  • On March 20, 2014, the foundation made a $10,000 payment to the Unicorn's Children's Foundation for payment of a painting Trump purchased at a charity auction.
  • On December 14, 2015, the foundation made a $32,000 payment to the North American Land Trust, a charitable organization that preserves natural resources, in connection with a pledge by Seven Springs, LLC to fund the management of conservation easement.





Legally, Trump isn't allowed to buy things for himself using the charity's money, even if he was buying them from nonprofits. 
The suit also lists some of the questionable expenses made by the charity, including a $10,000 on a portrait of Trump that was hung at one of his golf clubs.
And twice Trump used the charity's money to settle legal claims against his businesses.
In 2007, he settled a dispute with the town of Palm Beach, Florida, over code violations at his Mar-a-Lago estate. The town agreed to waive outstanding fines if Mar-a-Lago gave $100,000 to the charity Fisher House.
But the donation came from the foundation and not the estate, prosecutors charged after Trump wrote a note requesting the move.
In 2012, a Trump golf club agreed to pay $158,000 to settle a lawsuit with a man who was denied a $1 million hole-in-one prize during a tournament at the club. The Trump Foundation paid the money instead of the club. 
In March, after the attorney general's investigation was underway, Trump repaid his foundation all $258,000, plus more than $12,000 in interest, the suit notes. 
Underwood said Trump had already repaid amounts spent by the foundation, plus penalty taxes totaling more than $4,000.
In the case of the portrait, she said Trump's golf club paid the foundation the 'fair rental value' of using the foundation-owned painting as decoration. The value: $182. 
IRS rules also prohibit tax-exempt foundations from aiding political campaigns. 
But Underwood cited two instances where Trump's foundation had seemed to do so.
In August 2013, Trump donated $25,000 from his foundation to a Florida political group aiding the reelection of state Attorney General Pam Bondi. Around that time, Bondi's office was considering whether to join an ongoing lawsuit by then-New York AG Schneiderman, alleging Trump had defrauded students at his now-defunct 'Trump University.'
The Trump Foundation omitted any mention of Bondi's political group from its annual report to the IRS and instead said the $25,000 donation had gone to a nonprofit in Kansas with a similar-sounding name.
Underwood said Trump's staff blamed confusion among accounting clerks for spending the foundation's money, instead of Trump's own. As for the incorrect IRS filing, Underwood wrote, 'the Foundation has no credible explanation for the false reporting of grant recipients.' 
Trump repaid the $25,000 and paid a penalty tax of $2,500 for an improper political gift after it came to light in a Washington Post investigative series on the Donald J. Trump Foundation during the 2016 campaign.
However, Underwood charges that the campaign Trump's foundation helped most was his own.
In January 2016, Trump skipped a debate among Republican presidential candidates because he was feuding with debate host Fox News. Instead, he held a televised fundraiser for veterans — bringing in millions from wealthy friends and small-dollar donors, much of which went to his foundation.
Underwood charged 'the Foundation ceded control over the charitable funds it raised to senior Trump Campaign staff.' 
She cited emails in which Corey Lewandowski, then-campaign manager, directed which veterans' charities should receive money.
The Trump Foundation has been in legal limbo since after the election, when the president wanted to dissolve it amid growing controversy about its practices. But the foundation could not legally dissolve while it was under investigation, the New York attorney general ruled. 
New York has jurisdiction over the Trump Foundation because the charity is based at Trump Tower in Manhattan and registered in New York State.
Trump has been president of the foundation since he founded it in 1987.

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Post by annemarie on Thu 14 Jun 2018, 21:36

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5845267/Canadians-shopping-Trump-free-boycotting-goods-stores-cancelling-vacations.html

[size=34]Canadians are shopping 'Trump free' by boycotting US goods, stores and cancelling vacations to the States in solidarity with Trudeau[/size]

  • Angry Canadians are buying homegrown products instead of US goods 

  • Hashtags are trending on Twitter including #BuyCanadian and #BoycottUSA

  • Instead of Walmart, Starbucks and Florida oranges, shoppers are buying local

  • Others have cancelled their trips to the US and are venturing to parts of Canada

  • This is in retaliation to President Trump's trade war sparked after he called Prime Minister Justin Trudeau 'dishonest and weak'


By KAYLA BRANTLEY FOR DAILYMAIL.COM 
PUBLISHED: 15:54 EDT, 14 June 2018 | UPDATED: 16:21 EDT, 14 June 2018

    




Canadians are boycotting American-made products, stores and cancelling trips to the States in protest of President Trump's trade war and bad blood with their prime minister.
In defense of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, shoppers are skipping out on Walmart, Starbucks and Florida oranges and instead turning to homegrown Canadian products. 
This came after Trump said he would punish 'the people of Canada' following Trudeau's criticism of the US president's tariffs at a post-G7 news conference.
His comments then sparked a Twitter tirade where Trump called Trudeau very 'dishonest and weak'.


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In defense of their prime minister Justin Trudeau, Canadian shoppers are skipping out on Walmart and Starbucks and buying homegrown goods






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Canadians took to Twitter to express their disdain for the US president and described their plans for boycotting their neighboring country. 

Popular hashtags have taken over Twitter, including #BuyCanadian, #BoycottUSProducts and #BoycottUSA.
Canadians are sharing tips via social media for how to shop for homegrown products.
One woman suggested shopping at Tim Horton's instead of Starbucks and going to Rossy instead of Walmart. 
Another man said: 'I have traditionally contributed thousands to the US economy each year. Not until this guy is history. #Boycott USA.' 



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Some are even cancelling vacations to the US and instead, flying or driving through different regions in Canada. 
One Toronto resident said: 'I was planning a road trip that would take me through Maine on my way to NS. Now I can't fathom spending any of my hard earned cash in your country. I don't blame the citizens but I gather you can understand the position the rest of the world is in. #BoycottUSA'  
Trudeau himself acknowledged the support of the public while at Parliament this week.
'There's a bit of a patriotic boost going on these past few days,' he said.


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Speaking at a press conference in Singapore on Tuesday, Trump said he decided to back out of the G7 communique after watching Trudeau's closing summit news conference. 
It was there the prime minister warned that Canada would 'not be pushed around' on tariffs - a point Trudeau had made several times before.
'He'll learn that's going to cost a lot of money for the people of Canada. He'll learn, he can't do that,' Trump said.
The president has imposed tariffs of 25 and 10 per cent on aluminum and steel from Canada and other countries.   
The president also said the Canadian leader must not have realized that Trump had televisions on Air Force One, allowing him to monitor Trudeau's news conference.
'I think that Justin probably didn't know that Air Force One has about 20 televisions,' he said.
Trump recalled watching Trudeau's press conference in an interview with ABC News.
'He talked about how they won't be bullied. And I said "What's this all about? He didn't do that to my face, what's this all about?" But here's what the story is: We have been taken advantage of as a country for decades by friends and enemies both,' Trump said. 'Our trade is a disaster, our trade deals.'
Following the president's comments, White House aide Peter Navarro said there is a 'special place in hell' for leaders like Trudeau who engage in 'bad faith diplomacy' with President Trump. 
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Post by annemarie on Fri 15 Jun 2018, 12:13

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5846847/Trump-told-G7-leaders-Crimea-Russia-speaks-Russian.html

[size=34]Revealed: Trump told G7 leaders over dinner that 'Crimea is part of Russia because everyone there speaks Russian' as he called for nation to be allowed back into the summit[/size]

  • Diplomatic sources say Trump appeared to defend Russia's violent annexation of Crimea, saying most people in the peninsula spoke Russian anyway

  • During a discussion on foreign affairs on Friday, Trump apparently questioned why the G7 leaders were siding with Ukraine

  • 'Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world,' he allegedly said 

  • President Trump has repeatedly called for Russia to be brought back into the G7 

  • It was thrown out of the international group in 2014 after the annexation

  • Trump simplified the violent conflict as 'something that happened a while ago'

  • Trump left early on Saturday, missing environmental talks, after arriving to a frosty reception  


By HANNAH PARRY FOR DAILYMAIL.COM 
PUBLISHED: 23:57 EDT, 14 June 2018 | UPDATED: 03:42 EDT, 15 June 2018

    



President Donald Trump reportedly told G7 leaders that he believed Crimea was part of Russia because people there spoken Russian.  
Last week, Trump argued that Russia should be allowed to rejoin the G7 during the summit in Quebec, Canada.
Russia was kicked out of the then-G8 in 2014 following the violent annexation of the peninsula from Ukraine. Russian President Vladimir Putin defended the move saying that he had the right to protect Russian citizens and Russian speakers in Ukraine. 
Now diplomatic sources, who spoke anonymously to Buzzfeed, say Trump went as far as to appear to defend Russia's actions, saying that most people in Crimea spoke Russian anyway.


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President Trump reportedly told G7 leaders that he believed Crimea was part of Russia because people there spoken Russian
During a discussion on foreign affairs on Friday, Trump apparently questioned why the G7 leaders were siding with Ukraine, saying that 'Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world,' according to the source. 

When pressed about the president's comments on Thursday, Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders claimed she wasn't there so couldn't comment. 


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During a discussion on foreign affairs on Friday, Trump apparently questioned why the G7 leaders were siding with Ukraine (President Donald Trump (R) talking with German Chancellor Angela Merkel (C) and surrounded by other G7 leaders during a meeting of the G7 Summit)


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L-R: British Prime Minister Theresa May, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, US President Donald Trump, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, French President Emmanuel Macron, Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and Italian Prime Minister Guiseppe Conte 



On the second day of the summit, dismissed the annexation of Crimea as 'something that happened a while ago' which shouldn't now stand in the way of peace.
'This used to be the G8, not the G7,' Trump said at a press conference on Charlevoix near Quebec after attending a breakfast earlier in the day with foreign leaders.  
'I have not spoken to Vladimir Putin for quite a while. It has been discussed and some people quite like the idea of bringing Russia back in.'

'Something happened a while ago and I think it would be an asset to have Russia back in. 
'I think it would be good for Russia and I think the G8 would be better having Russia back in would be a positive thing. 
'We're looking for peace in the world. We're not looking to play games,' he said. 
Later, when pushed on whether or not he supported Putin taking control of the peninsula, he was vague.  
'Crimea was let go during the Obama administration and Obama can say all he wants but he allowed Russia to take Crimea.


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Russian President Vladimir Putin defended the move saying that he had the right to protect Russian citizens and Russian speakers in Ukraine
'I may have had a much different attitude. 
'Why did he do that? Why did he do that? 'That being said, it's been done a long time,' he said.
He added: 'I would rather see Russia in the G8 as opposed to the G7. 
'The G8 is a more meaningful group than the G7.' 
Russia continues to remain under U.S. and European sanctions for its annexation and incursion into part of Ukraine. Russia got kicked out of the group after it annexed Crimea. 
'They should let Russia come back in because we should have Russia at the negotiating table,' Trump said before boarding Marine One on his way home from the summit.
'Why are we having a meeting without Russia being in the meeting?' Trump asked.
'They threw Russia out. They should let Russia come back in.'
His unexpected gesture toward Moscow came in an extended extemporaneous press event under the roar of Marine One's engines, where the president also:

[size=34]THE ANNEXATION OF CRIMEA[/size]


The Republic of Crimea is a small peninsula between the Black Sea and the Sea of Azov. 
In February 2014, Russia, under Putin's watch, took control of it from Ukraine in a violent take-over which saw Kremlin-backed troops descend on the region. 


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Police officers arrest a protester in Moscow, March 2, 2014, during clashes over Russia's annexation of Crimea



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The majority of Crimea's 2million residents speak Russian and had voted to join Russia officially in a referendum but the vote was deemed illegal by Ukraine and by the rest of the West. 
There also remained a huge portion of the population who consider themselves Ukrainian and not Russian, along with the Crimean Tatar population - a predominantly Muslim community who suffered under Russian leaders in the past. 
The dispute sparked violent clashes in the area and was condemned internationally. 
President Obama slammed Putin's seizure of it as 'illegitimate' and he slapped sanctions on Russia as a result. 
At the time, Putin was part of the G8 but its leaders moved to expel him in response. 
In a statement at the time, they said it went against the principles of the international community. 
The region had been fought over for years. 
From 1793 until 1954, it was part of Russia. In the 1950s, it was transferred to Ukraine by the Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev. 
During Russia's control of it, particularly in the years of Stalin's leadership, Crimean Tatars were persecuted. 
Stalin believed they had worked with German occupiers and sent many of them in exile to parts of Asia.  



Trump cast his opinion on Russia in pragmatic terms, though he said it was up to the group.
'I would recommend, and it's up to them, but Russia should be in the meeting. It should be a part of it,' he said.
'You know, whether you like it or not, and it may not be politically correct, but we have a world to run,' Trump told reporters in extended remarks before his trip.
'And in the G7, which used to be the G8, they threw Russia out. They should let Russia come back in,' the president said.
It is just the latest in a series of times the president has sought to bolster ties with the Kremlin, including resisting a sanctions bill pushed by Congress that he ultimately signed, calling for warmer relations with Moscow, and restating Russian President Vladimir Putin's denials of election interference after a one-on-one meeting. 
The opinion is sure to ruffle other European leaders who were unanimous in their expulsion of Russia from the group in 2014. 
They condemned both Putin and Ukraine - which held an illegal referendum on the status of Crimea - saying at the time that both violated international laws and ethics. 


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Time for business: Trump sat beside Justin Trudeau at the start of the first formal G7 session. The Canadian prime minister was hosting and therefore chairing the summit


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Complaint: Trump had been said to be tired of British minister Theresa May's tone and did not appear to be offering her warm looks
'International law prohibits the acquisition of part or all of another state's territory through coercion or force," according to a joint statement at the time. "To do so violates the principles upon which the international system is built. We condemn the illegal referendum held in Crimea in violation of Ukraine's constitution.'
The statement continued: 'We also strongly condemn Russia's illegal attempt to annex Crimea in contravention of international law and specific international obligations.'
Trump's bold pronouncement came after he already has been engaged in angry back-and-forth with traditional allies France and Canada in a trade war. The Trump administration slapped tariffs on steel and aluminum imported form the allies, citing a national security exception.
The Canadian prime minster blasted back mentioning Canada's military contributions in Afghanistan, while French President Emanuel Macron said Thursday the remaining six G6 nations could operate without U.S. leadership. 
And at the summit, he got a warm welcome from Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, but his scheduled meeting with French President Emanuel Macron got scratched at the outset.
Aides were able to cobble together a meeting for later on Monday.
'We've had really a very good relationship, very special,' Trump said at first. 'A lot of people wrote a couple of things that weren't quite true – a little bit accurate, perhaps – we've had a little test every once in a while when it comes to trade,' the president then acknowledged.
It capped off a brief stop in Quebec where he appeared isolated by other world leaders. 
Despite reports of frosty relations between them, Trump insisted that his relationships with other countries were 'a 10'. 
On Saturday, as the G7 met in Quebec, Putin held a summit of his own with the President of Iran, one of Trump's political enemies. 
They grinned as they posed for photographs in China together as the European leaders and Trump discussed how to combat Iran's nuclear plans and support of terrorist groups.

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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by LizzyNY on Fri 15 Jun 2018, 12:53

If speaking Russian makes Ukraine part of Russia, then speaking English must mean we're still part of the UK. God save the Queen, and could she please send her troops to rid us of this despicable usurper?
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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by annemarie on Fri 15 Jun 2018, 13:48

Lol Lizzy he is dumber than dish water and people believe the stupid things he says. It's hard to believe there
are that many stupid people on the planet.

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Post by annemarie on Fri 15 Jun 2018, 13:52

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5845877/Sessions-cites-Bible-defend-separating-immigrant-families.html

[size=34]Jeff Sessions cites Bible to defend separating immigrant children from parents who illegally enter U.S.[/size]

  • Attorney General spoke about immigration in Indiana on Thursday 

  • Public furor continues over government policy separating children from parents

  • Sessions said Apostle Paul 'commanded others to obey laws of the government' 


By ASSOCIATED PRESS
PUBLISHED: 16:46 EDT, 14 June 2018 | UPDATED: 07:35 EDT, 15 June 2018

    


Attorney General Jeff Sessions cited the Bible on Thursday in his defense of his border policy that is resulting in hundreds of immigrant children being separated from their parents after they enter the U.S. illegally.
Sessions, speaking in Fort Wayne, Indiana, on immigration, pushed back against criticism he had received over the policy. 
On Wednesday, a cardinal in the Roman Catholic Church said that separating mothers from their babies was 'immoral.'
Sessions said many of the recent criticisms were not 'fair or logical and some are contrary to law.'

'I would cite you to the Apostle Paul and his clear and wise command in Romans 13, to obey the laws of the government because God has ordained them for the purpose of order,' he said. 


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Attorney General Jeff Sessions cited the Bible on Thursday in his defense of his border policy that is resulting in hundreds of immigrant children being separated from their parents after they enter the U.S. illegally


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A two-year-old Honduran asylum seeker cries as her mother is searched and detained near the U.S.-Mexico border on June 12
'Orderly and lawful processes are good in themselves and protect the weak and lawful.'
Last month, the attorney general announced a 'zero tolerance' policy that any adult who enters the country illegally is criminally prosecuted. 


U.S. protocol prohibits detaining children with their parents because the children are not charged with a crime and the parents are.
According to U.S. Customs and Border Protection, more than 650 children were separated from their parents at the U.S.-Mexico border during a two-week period in May.


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Demonstrators line up to protest Sessions and immigration reform at Parkview Field in Fort Wayne, Indiana on Thursday


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Last month, the attorney general announced a 'zero tolerance' policy that any adult who enters the country illegally is criminally prosecuted
White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Thursday that she hadn't seen Sessions' comments but affirmed that the Bible did back up the administration's actions.
'I can say that it is very biblical to enforce the law. That is actually repeated a number of times throughout the Bible,' she said. 
'It's a moral policy to follow and enforce the law.'
In an unusually tense series of exchanges in the White House briefing room, Sanders wrongly blamed Democrats for the policy separating children from parents and insisted the administration had made no changes in increasing the use. 
Until the policy was announced in April, such families were usually referred for civil deportation proceedings, not requiring separation.


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U.S. protocol prohibits detaining children with their parents because the children are not charged with a crime and the parents are


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According to U.S. Customs and Border Protection, more than 650 children were separated from their parents at the U.S.-Mexico border during a two-week period in May
'The separation of illegal alien families is the product of the same legal loopholes that Democrats refuse to close, and these laws are the same that have been on the books for over a decade, and the president is simply enforcing them,' she said.
'We don't want this to be a problem,' she said.
Cardinal Daniel DiNardo, the archbishop of Galveston-Houston, told the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops on Wednesday that he was joining other religious leaders in opposing the government's border policy.
'Our government has the discretion in our laws to ensure that young children are not separated from their parents and exposed to irreparable harm and trauma,' DiNardo said in a statement.

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Post by annemarie on Fri 15 Jun 2018, 14:03

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5845699/Trumps-environmental-policy-roll-backs-cause-80-000-deaths-decade.html

[size=34]Trump's environmental policy roll-backs might cause 80,000 more deaths a decade from chemical exposure and respiratory illnesses, Harvard study finds[/size]


  •  The authors say the number of deaths is 'an extremely conservative estimate'

  • Calculations were made using health risk assessments conducted by the EPA during the Obama administration

  • They estimate repealing Obama's Clean Power Plan would lead to 36,000 deaths and 630,000 cases of respiratory infection in children

  • The essay was dismissed by the EPA, run by scandal-plagued Scott Pruitt, as being rhetoric and not research  


By MARY KEKATOS FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 17:43 EDT, 14 June 2018 | UPDATED: 01:12 EDT, 15 June 2018

    


Environmental policy changes proposed by the Trump administration could lead to an extra 80,000 American deaths per decade, according to two Harvard scientists.   
David Cutler, a public-health economist, and Francesca Dominici, a biostatistician, say that figure is 'an extremely conservative estimate' in the essay published on Tuesday in the Journal of the American Medical Association.
Rolling back the Clean Power Plan will lead to an estimated 36,000 deaths and a repeal of emission requirements for certain vehicles will lead to an estimated 14,000 deaths, they wrote.
They argue that the changing policies could cause respiratory problems as well for more than one million people over a decade, many of them children.

The essay, which is not a formal peer-reviewed study, has added to a growing debate about what many see as an assault by the Trump administration on policies regarding environmental health.


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Environmental policy changes proposed by the Trump administration could lead to extra 80,000 American deaths per decade, according to two Harvard scientists
Cutler and Dominici reviewed eight EPA policy actions either in progress or that have been proposed.
These include a repeal of the Clean Power Plan, a rollback of Corporate Average Fuel Economy standards or automobiles, and revoking the Waters of the United States Rule - which are Obama-era rules for clean air, chemical and water, respectively.
Dominici, a biostatistician at the Harvard TH Chan School of Public Health and Cutler, an economist at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government, made their calculations from health risk assessments conducted by the EPA during the Obama administration.
'A central feature of [Trump's] agenda is environmental damage: making the air dirtier and exposing people to more toxic chemicals,' the pair wrote.
'The beneficiaries, in contrast, will be a relatively few well-connected companies.'


The scientists argue that many of the repeals and rollbacks will expose Americans to atmospheric particulate matter, popularly known as smog.
Smog contains a pollutant called ozone, which has been proven to be harmful to human health.
Ozone can aggravate health problems such as asthma, emphysema, chronic bronchitis and other respiratory problems. It can also reduce resistance to colds and lung infections.
The two researchers say that changes in air quality will have the most detrimental  consequences on public health.
They estimate that repealing Obama's Clean Power Plan alone would lead to 36,000 deaths and 630,000 cases of respiratory infection in children within the next decade.  
About 90 percent of the increase in respiratory ailments is attributed to a loophole that would be reopened to allow trucks that don't comply with pollution rules to remain on the road, according to the authors  


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The scientists argue that many of the repeals and rollbacks will expose Americans to atmospheric particulate matter, popularly known as smog
In a statement to Bloomberg, the EPA, which is run by climate change skeptic Scott Pruitt, said the essay was rhetoric and not research.
'This is not a scientific article, it's a political article. The science is clear, under President Trump greenhouse gas emissions are down,' the statement read.
'Superfundsites are being cleaned up at a higher rate than under President Obama, and the federal government is investing more money to improve water infrastructure than ever before.'
Pruitt has been plagued by scandal, reportedly using taxpayer money for extravagant purchases, including a $43,000 soundproof booth for his office.
He is also under investigation for allegedly abusing his power, bypassing the White House to give two of his favorite aides large raises.
But Cutler defended the essay, saying that the estimates were based on impact analyses conducted by the EPA itself. 
'If they don't like what their scientists say, they should provide scientific reasons for thinking so,' he told Bloomberg.

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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by annemarie on Fri 15 Jun 2018, 14:16

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5845443/Twitter-explodes-GOP-jumps-Trump-Train-chairwoman-warns-embrace-Trump-agenda.html

[size=34]Twitter exploded at Ronna McDaniel's comment'Go f*** yourself': Twitter explodes after GOP finally jumps on Trump Train and chairwoman warns Republicans to 'embrace the @realDonaldTrump agenda' or else[/size]

  • Ronna McDaniel's tweet warning Republicans to embrace the Trump agenda caused a firestorm of fury against her 

  • 'What in the actual hell.... is this a threat Ronna?' Meghan McCain, the daughter of Sen. John McCain, wrote

  • Twitter users compared her tweet to something that would been seen from the Nazis or the Soviet Union

  • McDaniel tried to clarify with later tweet

  • And President Trump tweeted how well the Republican Party is doing under him 


By EMILY GOODIN, U.S. POLITICAL REPORTER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 14:19 EDT, 14 June 2018 | UPDATED: 14:48 EDT, 14 June 2018

    



A twitter firestorm of fury flared after Ronna McDaniel, the chairwoman of the Republican Party, posted a tweet that many took as a threat aimed at those who don't support President Donald Trump. 
'Complacency is our enemy. Anyone that does not embrace the @realDonaldTrump  agenda of making America great again will be making a mistake,' she wrote Wednesday evening.
'Go f*** yourself,' was one of the many colorful replies by twitter users, who compared her tweet to Soviet gulags and the Nazi regime.
Even prominent Republican voices criticized the Republican National Committee chairwoman. 


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RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel caused a firestorm with a tweet


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McDaniel's tweet that started it all



John McCain's daughter questioned McDaniel


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Prominent GOP voices like Bill Kristol also had questions


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President Trump tweeted how well the GOP is doing
'What in the actual hell.... is this a threat Ronna?' wrote Meghan McCain, the daughter of Sen. John McCain.

And conservative commentator Bill Kristol wrote that 'I'm old enough to remember when Ronna Romney McDaniel spoke in a way befitting a citizen of a free republic, before Ronna McDaniel started sounding like a spokesperson for an authoritarian government.'
Trump, however, issued a celebratory tweet Thursday morning claiming 'the Republican Party is starting to show big numbers.'  
Several critical tweets were fired at McDaniel, many of them laced with profanities. 
'Are you threatening us? Do you think this is 1930s Germany? I will not salute Trump. I will #TakeAKnee #TakeAKnee if I f*cking want to. I will say #FUCKTRUMP. I will call/fax/tweet my reps. I will march. I will #Resist! ���� So sit down and STFU,' one twitter user blasted at McDaniel.
'Throw me in a f***ing gulag queen,' another wrote. 
'Lady that sounds like something that could have been written by Pravada in the golden days of the Soviet Union,' another tweeter user wrote. 
McDaniel later tweeted out part of an interview she conducted with Lou Dobbs on Fox News and explained: 'Here's the full context of my answer referenced in this tweet, which didn't translate well with a 240-character limit.'
She told Dobbs: 'We've got a lot more to do and we cannot risk losing that in these midterms. So complacency is going to be our enemy and anyone who doesn't embrace the Trump agenda and doesn't recognize the issues that compelled us to victory in the White House, is going to be making a mistake.'
The controversy comes after a Republican senator said the Republican Party was becoming like a cult.
'It's becoming a cultish thing, isn't it?' Sen. Bob Corker of Tennessee said Wednesday. 'It's not a good place for any party to end up with a cultlike situation as it relates to a president that happens to be of — purportedly — of the same party.'
The party appears to be trending toward the president.


In Tuesday's primary election, Republican Congressman Mark Sanford lost his primary to a challenger that embraced her support of Trump while knocking the lawmaker for criticizing the president.
In Virginia, Republicans nominated Corey Stewart, a Trump-like candidate, for senator. Stewart has a history of embracing, as the president has, Confederate symbols and white nationalists. 
Trump endorsed him with a tweet after he won the nomination.
There also seems to be less room for Trump critics in the party.
Corker is prominent Trump critic and he's hanging up his hat this year, opting not to run for reelection. Republican Sen. Jeff Flake is doing the same - deciding to retire after Trump criticized him repeatedly and the White House was working against him in his Senate primary.
While primary elections are filled with the kind of red meat voters that gobble up Trump's type of rhetoric, the general election could prove more problematic for these candidates, particularly those that have to run state wide.


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President Trump tweeted how well the GOP was doing



Twitter exploded at Ronna McDaniel's comment


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Twitter exploded at Ronna McDaniel's comment


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Twitter exploded at Ronna McDaniel's comment



Twitter exploded at Ronna McDaniel's comment


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Twitter exploded at Ronna McDaniel's comment


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Twitter exploded at Ronna McDaniel's comment




Many political analysts, for example, saw Stewart's securing the Senate nomination in Virginia virtually reassuring that Democratic Sen. Tim Kaine will win reelection.
Presidents are always a big draw at rallies and among the party faithful but the question of can that translate into votes this November will be watched closely of Trump.
Obama was enormously popular on the campaign trail but had trouble getting Democrats elected.

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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by LizzyNY on Fri 15 Jun 2018, 14:31

annemarie wrote:Lol Lizzy he is dumber than dish water and people believe the stupid things he says. It's hard to believe there
are that many stupid people on the planet.
 Is Trump dumber than mud? In many respects, yes, but he is a genius at manipulation. That's why I have to disagree that his supporters are "stupid". Many of them are just as smart as anyone else, but they're having a tough time getting by and were tricked into believing Trump would make things better.

If we're going to get rid of Trump we'll have to get a lot of his supporters to switch sides. That won't happen if we keep calling them names and saying they're stupid. We really need to listen to them and try to find solutions to their problems. If we can expend so much energy promoting racial and sexual equality, immigrant's rights and so many "progressive" causes we should at least be willing to hear these people out and try to help them, too. It might even win us some votes.

Re: Jeff Sessions - I am sick to death of self-professed "Christians" using the Bible to defend the most indefensible actions. Whatever happened to the Golden Rule? If you truly follow Jesus that should be your mantra for life. Does Sessions truly want his own family ripped apart? I doubt it. Yet he happily violates everything Jesus stood for because the power of his office has gone to his head. He is a mean, mean man but no matter what he says, no matter how many church sermons he sits through, he is not a Christian!
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Post by annemarie on Fri 15 Jun 2018, 15:47

I found this in an  article that was asking Trump voters why they voted for him.


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[*][url=https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/08/donald-trump-voters/401408/#Trump Is Low-Risk, High-Reward]Trump is Low Risk, High Reward[/url]––“I will vote for Donald Trump (and to a lesser extent Bernie Sanders) because he represents hope… And how much damage can he really do?”

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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by annemarie on Fri 15 Jun 2018, 17:56

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5849117/California-woman-forces-Border-Patrol-agents-Greyhound-bus.html

[size=34]California woman forces Border Patrol agents off a Greyhound using the Fourth Amendment after they demanded to see everyone's immigration documents[/size]

  • Tiana Smalls was riding a Greyhound bus from Bakersfield to Las Vegas last week

  • As they reached Nevada border patrol agents tried to inspect their documents

  • Smalls told passengers not to show anything because agents had no authority

  • The agents then allowed the bus to pass without confronting anybody on board 


By CHRIS PLEASANCE FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 12:19 EDT, 15 June 2018 | UPDATED: 12:19 EDT, 15 June 2018

    



A woman has told how she confronted border patrol agents after they demanded to see her visa documentation while on a bus from California to Nevada. 
Tiana Smalls said she was riding the Greyhound from Bakesfield to Las Vegas on June 5 to see family when the altercation took place.
Smalls recalled on Facebook how she challenged the agents for having no authority to check papers so far from a border, after which they backed off.


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Tiana Smalls was riding a Greyhound from Bakesfield to Las Vegas to see her family when the driver announced that border agents would be stopping the bus and asking to see documents
The incident took place at a border post which used to be used to check for fruit being brought into California because of an invasive species of fly.

But on this occasion when the bus stopped, Smalls said the driver announced: 'We are being boarded by Border Patrol. Please be prepared to show your documentation upon request.'
Smalls said she stood up and began shouting: 'This is a violation of your Fourth amendment rights. You don't have to show them s***! This is illegal. We are not within 100 miles of an international border so that have no authority to ask you for anything. Tell them to f*** off!' 


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Not being able to speak Spanish, Smalls said she translated the remark using an app on her phone and tried to reassure Spanish speakers on the bus.
When the agents actually boarded, she reiterated: 'I'm not showing you shit! I'm not driving this bus, so you have no right to ask me for anything! 
'And the rest of you guys don't have to show them anything, either! This is harassment and racial profiling! 
'Don't show them a gotdamn thing! We are not within 100 miles of a border so they have no legal right or jurisdiction here! Google it!'


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Smalls said she informed everyone on the bus that the agents (file picture) had no authority to demand their papers and that they should refuse to show them
She claims that, after seeing she was willing to cause a problem, the agents got off the bus and allowed it to continue.
According to the ACLU, customs and border officials are legally allowed to operate within a 'reasonable distance' of a US land border.
A 1953 federal regulation defined 'reasonable' to be within 100 air miles, rather than land miles, of a border. That would include the California-Nevada border.
However, the Fourth Amendment only allows law enforcement officials to enter business areas that are open to the public in the exercise of their duties - going anywhere else requires a warrant or consent.
Since Greyhound buses require a ticket to enter, they are not considered to be open to the public, and the agents' legal authority does not extend there.
A statement on the ACLU's website says: 'ACLU affiliates in Washington, California, Arizona, Michigan, New York, Vermont, and Florida have reported multiple incidents involving Border Patrol agents boarding Greyhound buses without a warrant or consent, and terrorizing passengers by demanding their papers. 
'These reports indicate that Border Patrol agents routinely engage in racial and ethnic profiling, singling people out for the color of their skin or accents.'
Smalls has been widely praised online for standing up to the agents and defending the passengers who could not speak English.

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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by annemarie on Fri 15 Jun 2018, 18:07

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5848881/Paul-Manafort-ask-judge-not-revoke-bail-Friday.html

[size=34]Paul Manafort is JAILED: Judge cancels Trump aide's house arrest and locks him up over witness tampering allegations while awaiting trial in Mueller probe[/size]

  • U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson has revoked Paul Manafort's bail and has sentenced him to await trial behind bars

  • Manafort, who was newly indicted on witness tampering charges last week, had asked to remain on house arrest on Friday morning  

  • He had been indicted on raft of charges in Virginia - where his trial will begin on July 25 and Washington DC - which will begin on September 17  

  • Until now, he had been confined to his home in the Washington suburb of Alexandria, Virginia, and forced to wear a GPS monitoring device

  • Mueller's team had asked the judge this month to revise Manafort's terms of his release or revoke it entirely

  • Manafort had allegedly used WhatsApp to send messages to 'influence [witness] testimony and to otherwise conceal evidence'


By KAREN RUIZ FOR DAILYMAIL.COM and WIRES
PUBLISHED: 11:31 EDT, 15 June 2018 | UPDATED: 12:55 EDT, 15 June 2018

    


Donald Trump's former campaign chairman Paul Manafort will await trial behind bars after a federal judge revoked his bail during his arraignment on Friday. 
The former Trump aide had asked to remain on house arrest until his trial which is set to begin on September 17 in Washington. 
U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson ruled in favor of prosecutors who for months had been pushing for Manafort to be jailed because he is a flight risk.
In issuing her ruling, Jackson said she had 'struggled' with the decision but she couldn't 'turn a blind eye' to his conduct.

'You have abused the trust placed in you six months ago,' she said.
Manafort had been confined to his home in the Washington suburb of Alexandria, Virginia and forced to wear a GPS monitoring device since last year.  
He had repeatedly requested to end his home confinement in exchange for pledging $10 million in real estate as collateral - which Judge Jackson had rebuffed. 


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Former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort had his bail revoked during his arraignment on Friday 


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Manafort had been on house arrest since last year and had been forced GPS monitoring device


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Last week, Special Counsel Robert Mueller indicted Manafort on a new charge of witness tampering, and had asked for his bail to be revoked 

A federal grand jury indicted Manafort and a longtime associate, Konstantin Kilimnik, last week on charges of obstruction of justice and conspiracy to obstruct justice, adding to the multiple felony counts he already faced. 
The charges do not relate to his work on the Trump campaign or involve allegations of Russian election interference. 
Manafort has pleaded not guilty to the charges.
He has been indicted by Mueller in both Washington and Virginia on a raft of charges including conspiracy against the United States. 
His trial on the related charges in Virginia is set for July 25. 
Mueller, whose investigation could threaten Trump's presidency, is also investigating whether the president's 2016 campaign colluded with Moscow and whether Trump has unlawfully sought to obstruct the Russia probe. 
The president has called Mueller's investigation a witch hunt and has denied wrongdoing. 
A June 8 indictment charged Manafort and Konstantin Kilimnik, a Manafort aide and political operative with alleged ties to Russian intelligence, with tampering with witnesses about their past lobbying for Ukraine's former pro-Russian government.


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Manafort's wife Kathleen Manafort, was seen leaving without him after his arraignment on a third superseding indictment against him by Special Counsel Robert Mueller on charges of witness tampering


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Kathleen was escorted through the crowd of protesters and photographers as she left the Federal Courthouse in Washington 
The indictment accused Manafort and Kilimnik of attempting to call, text, and send encrypted messages in February to two people from a political discussion group - the so-called Hapsburg Group - that Manafort worked with to promote Ukraine's interests in a bid to sway their testimony.
The messages - sent on WhatsApp - were an 'effort to influence [witness] testimony and to otherwise conceal evidence', the FBI said.  


Mueller's team this month asked the judge to revoke Manafort's bail, saying his "obstructive" conduct "instills little confidence that restrictions short of detention will assure Manafort's compliance with the court's orders and prevent him from committing further crimes."
Manafort has longstanding ties to a pro-Russian political party in Ukraine and a Russian oligarch close to the Kremlin.
The charges against Manafort in Washington include conspiracy to launder money, conspiracy to defraud the United States and failing to register as a foreign agent for the pro-Russia Ukrainian government under former President Viktor Yanukovych. 


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Manafort was seen going through security on his arrival at federal court, Friday


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U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson ruled in favor of prosecutors who for months had been pushing for Manafort to be jailed because he is a flight risk


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Manafort was met by a crowd of protesters holding signs reading 'lock him up' as he walked into the Federal Courthouse Friday morning 

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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by annemarie on Fri 15 Jun 2018, 18:10

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5847999/Donald-Trump-popular-Republicans-president-Second-World-War.html

[size=34]Donald Trump is more popular with Republicans than almost any president since WWII with an approval rating of 87 per cent, poll finds[/size]

  • The President is more popular than JFK and Obama were among Democrats 

  • Only George W. Bush whose popularity surged post 9/11 more popular with GOP

  • Most Americans also believe Trump was right to meet with Kim Jong-un 


By TARIQ TAHIR FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 07:59 EDT, 15 June 2018 | UPDATED: 09:19 EDT, 15 June 2018

    


Donald Trump's popularity among members of his own party in is higher than any other post-war President except for George W. Bush.
On day 500 of his term of office, which fell on June 4, Mr Trump's approval rating among Republicans stood at 87 per cent, according to Gallup.
The figure puts him head of John F. Kennedy or Barack Obama who found favour with 85 per cent and 79 per cent of Democrats on same day.


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How post-war presidents have polled among their own supporters since the Second  World War 


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Only George W. Bush has been more popular than Donald Trump among Republican voters 

Another poll, published by the independent Monmouth University Polling Institute, put his overall approval rating at 43 percent.
That marks a slight increase on April's figure and is level with his highest score, recorded in March 2017.
The survey was conducted by telephone in the two days after Mr Trump met Kim Jong-un.
Seven-in-10 voters said the meeting was a good idea is up from 63 per cent in late April, including 93 per cent of Republicans, 74 per cent of independents, and 49 per cent of Democrats.


Only 20 per cent say the Singapore meeting was a bad idea.
In addition, just under half of respondents said the meeting made Trump stronger as opposed to 13 per cent who thought it made him look weaker with 38 per cent saying it made no difference.
Kim Jong Un received similar numbers to the President, with 45 per cent saying it made him look stronger, 9 per cent weaker, and 39 per cent saying it didn't change his international stature.


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Seven-in-ten American voters believe the President was correct to meet Kim Jong-un
Patrick Murray, director of the independent Monmouth University Polling Institute, said: 'The event was clearly a good photo op for both leaders, but the top goal from the US perspective was reducing the nuclear threat posed by Kim's regime.
'The public is more optimistic than pessimistic that this will be an outcome of these talks, but only just slightly.'
But the president remains a divisive figure within the country and his popularity within the Republican base has strengthened his grip on the party, increasing the prospect of a second term.
Mark Sanford, a Republican congressman in South Carolina who had been critical of Mr Trump, lost his seat in a primary contest to Katie Arrington, an enthusiastic Trump supporter.
Corey Stewart, who has made defending Confederate monuments his cause, became the Republican nominee for one Virginia's state's two Senate seats.
He has been disowned by much of the Republican Party but was congratulated by Mr Trump for his primary win.

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Post by annemarie on Fri 15 Jun 2018, 18:13

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5848447/I-dont-want-nuclear-weapon-destroy-family-Trump-tells-reporters.html

[size=34]'I don't want to see a nuclear weapon destroy you and your family': Trump claims his meeting with Kim Jong-un averted a war where 'millions' would have died[/size]

  • President Trump at the White House defended his meeting with Kim Jong-un 

  •  He got asked how he could have said the dictator 'loves' his people and compared human rights abuses there to other countries

  •  'I don't want to see a nuclear weapon destroy you and your family'

  •  'I did a great job this week'

  • Trump said'we're well on our way to get denuclearization' of North Korea


By GEOFF EARLE, DEPUTY U.S. POLITICAL EDITOR FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 09:57 EDT, 15 June 2018 | UPDATED: 11:25 EDT, 15 June 2018

    


President Donald Trump defended his summit meeting Kim Jong-un and his statements vouching for the  North Korean dictator's love of his people, saying his actions potentially saved millions of lives.
With only a four-part joint statement on the books and not time-frames or mechanisms for ridding the hermetic nation of its nuclear weapons on the books, Trump declared his policy already a success.
'I did a great job this week. The fake news said, "Oh, you met,"' Trump complained in an impromptu press conference on the North Lawn of the White House Friday.  
'One broadcast said: "He gave up so much,"' Trump vented.


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President Trump defended his North Korea summit at the White House on Friday



'You know what I gave up? I met. I met, We met, we had great chemistry. He gave us a lot. You haven’t had a missile test in seven months,' he said, referencing North Koreans refrain from provocative ballistic missile launches. 
'You haven’t had a firing. You haven’t had a nuclear test in 8 ½ months. You haven’t had missiles flying over Japans,' he said.
'He gave us the remains of our great heroes,' Trump said, nothing North Korea has pledged to return remains of U.S. soldiers from the Korean war. 


'How can he love his people if he’s killing them?' asked a reporter, referencing Trump's series of comments praising Kim, despite North Korean work camps, a  gulag system, political killings, and occasional famine.
'I can’t speak to that. I can only speak to the fact that we signed an incredible agreement. It’s great. And it’s going to be great for them too. Because now North Korea can develop and North Korea can become a great country economically it can become whatever they want but there won’t be nuclear weapons and it won’t be aimed at you and your family,' he said. 


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'I don't want to see a nuclear weapon destroy you and your family'


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'We met, we had great chemistry,' Trump said of his summit with Kim Jong-un
Trump drew on emotional language when a reporter asked how he could essentially defend North Korea's human rights record despite the kidnapping that resulted in the death of Otto Warmbier, a deceased former American hostage Trump and diplomats helped free. 
'You know why? Because I don’t want to see a nuclear weapon destroy you and your family,' Trump said.
'I don’t want to see a nuclear weapon destroy you and your family. I want to have a good relationship with North Korea.'
'When I came in people thought we were probably going to war with North Korea. If we did, millions of people would have been killed,' Trump said.
Trump was responding to criticism that he gave Kim the propaganda win of a summit without getting more concessions on denuclearization, and didn't lock in a plan to get there.
'And now we're well on our way to get denuclearization. And the agreement says there will be total denuclearization. Nobody wants to report that,' Trump said. 
Trump also said it was his idea to suspend joint U.S.-South Korea military exercises that many military leaders consider essential to South Korea's defense, but North Korea has long considered an irritant.
'I call them war games. I hated them from the day I came in,' Trump said. A reporter told Trump that 'war games' was the way North Korea describes the exercises.
'That’s my term. They might use it,' Trump said.
'I said I’d like to halt it … it costs us a lot of money. I saved a lot of money,' he said.

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Post by annemarie on Fri 15 Jun 2018, 18:17

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5841873/Critics-blast-Arizona-lawmakers-comments-racist.html

[size=34]Arizona lawmaker faces calls to quit after saying 'there aren't enough white kids to go round' in a speech about integration in schools[/size]

  • David Stringer said racial integration in schools was hindered by too few whites

  • The Republican representative was speaking at a Men's Forum event on Monday

  • Now facing calls to quit from Arizona's Republican governor and party chairman

  • Accused 'political opponents' of trying to 'distort' message and 'mislead' voters


By RORY TINGLE FOR DAILYMAIL.COM and ASSOCIATED PRESS
PUBLISHED: 20:01 EDT, 13 June 2018 | UPDATED: 12:44 EDT, 15 June 2018

    


A Republican state lawmaker from Arizona who said 'there aren't enough white kids to go around' during a speech discussing integration in schools is facing calls to quit from the chairman of his own party.
'Sixty percent of public school children in the state of Arizona today are minorities. That complicates racial integration because there aren't enough white kids to go around,' Stringer told the Yavapai County Republican Men's Forum on Monday.
The clip also shows Stringer saying immigration is 'politically destabilizing' and 'represents an existential threat to the United States.'



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David Stringer told the Yavapai County Republican Men's Forum on Monday (left) that integration in schools was hindered by the lack of white children. He is seen on the right in a photo posted on his Facebook
David Stringer said his 'political opponents... have taken 51 seconds out of a 16 minute speech to try to distort my message and mislead voters' and he's 'not interested in taking the fake news bait.'

Stringer's speech was livestreamed on Facebook and was available to watch on his campaign page. It was later removed. 
But a clip widely circulated on social media by a Democrat showed Stringer talking about how immigration is changing the demographic makeup of the country.


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'If we don't do something about immigration very, very soon, the demographics of our country will be irrevocably changed and we will be a very different country and we will not be the country you were born into,' he said.
Stringer, who is from Prescott, told the Arizona Capitol Times that he apologized to anyone he offended, and that he planned to re-post the entire 17 minute video of his comments. He said he wants people to hear the whole speech.
'I am calling on him to resign immediately,' Arizona GOP chairman Jonathan Lines said in a statement released on Thursday, after the clip circulated widely on social media. 'These words have no place in our party, or in our state.'


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Stringer sought to defend his comments with this post on his Facebook page, in which he accused 'political opponents' of attempting to smear him 
Gov. Doug Ducey, who is seeking re-election in November, 'agrees with Chairman Lines and supports this call from AZ GOP,' Ducey spokesman Daniel Scarpinato said in a Twitter post.
Stringer didn't immediately return emails or a call to his office on Thursday afternoon seeking comment on the calls by his fellow Republicans to resign.
But in his Facebook page, Stringer said his comments about school integration 'were factually accurate and were intended to illustrate the challenges facing successful integration when white students are a rapidly declining percentage of the whole.
'This issue cries out for honest and open public discussion. Regrettably, my political opponents seek to shut down discussion with name calling and vile accusations,' Stringer added.
'I am not afraid of conservative bigwigs and I'm not afraid of liberal bullies either.'

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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by annemarie on Fri 15 Jun 2018, 23:56

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5844361/Rudy-Giuliani-calls-Joe-Biden-moron-mentally-deficient-idiot.html

[size=34]Rudy Giuliani calls Joe Biden 'a moron' and a 'mentally deficient idiot' who finished at the bottom of his law school class and predicts he's 'too old' to beat Donald Trump in 2020[/size]

  • Giuliani is President Donald Trump's personal attorney handling Special Counsel Robert Mueller's probe on Russia

  • He's blasting former VP Joe Biden as stupid, old and unfit to run in 2020

  • 'I’m calling Joe Biden a mentally deficient idiot,' he said in an interview

  • Biden finished 76th out of 85 students in his law school class, something he lied about when rnuning for president in 1988

  • He was bounced out of that race for plagiarizing some of his law school work, and a speech by British Labour leader Neil Kinnock 


By DAVID MARTOSKO, U.S. POLITICAL EDITOR FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 18:26 EDT, 15 June 2018 | UPDATED: 18:35 EDT, 15 June 2018

    



Presidential attorney Rudy Giuliani thinks former vice president Joe Biden is too old and too stupid to run for the top job at the White House.
'Joe Biden is a moron,' the former New York City mayor told HuffPost.
'I’m calling Joe Biden a mentally deficient idiot.'
Giuliani also claimed Biden graduated from Syracuse University law school at the bottom of his class.

That's close, but not strictly accurate: Following a report in Newsweek, Biden was forced to acknowledge in a 1987 press conference that he finished in 76th place out of 85 graduates in his class.


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Rudy Giuliani says Joe Biden is too old and stupid to challenge Donald Trump for the presidency in 2020


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Biden has run for the White House twice, served for decades as a U.S. senator and wonthe vice presidency on Barack Obama's ticket; he did graduate near the bottom of his law school class, however


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Giuliani believes Trump is likely to win re-election unless the Democratic Party nominates a fresh face 
Biden was running for the Democratic Party's 1988 presidential nomination.
That effort was derailed, in part, by revelations that he plagiarized some of his work in law school and used portions of a speech by British Labour Party leader Neil Kinnock without credit.
The future veep had claimed earlier in the campaign that he had finished law school in the top half of his class.
'I guess every single word I've said is going to be dissected now,' he told The new York Times then, not quite grasping what the new age of presidential politics would be like.
Of his law school class ranking, he said, 'I exaggerate when I'm angry, but I've never gone around telling people things that aren't true about me.'


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Biden, now 75, is just three years older than President Trump


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Democratic political strategists are panicking because Barack Obama is on the sidelines and yet represents the only center of vital energy in the party. One says: 'There’s f***ing no one else. ... Bill Clinton is toxic, Carter is too old, and there’s no one else around for miles'
Biden ran for president again 20 years later, ultimately becoming Barack Obama's 2008 running mate. And he has been sending signals that he's ready for a third bite at the apple.
He considered running in 2016 but ultimately sat out the election after his son Beau died of brain cancer.
Giuliani said Biden's age, 75, would make him too old to run for the White House.
President Donald Trump is just three years younger.
Giuliani thinks the president will win a second term, provided the Democratic Party doesn't nominate a fresh face with novel qualities that might lead to nationwide enthusiasm.


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Biden ran for the 1988 Democrtaic presidential nomination but was doomed to fail after news surfaced that he had inflated his law school resume and plagiarized some of his work


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Obama has been holding secret meetings with potential 2020 challengers like Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, 76, and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, 68



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'They need someone new, who would be more threatening to us' than someone like Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, he said.
'They’ve got to hit us with a surprise.'
Democrats in general are looking more and more backward for political inspiration, urging Obama to come off the sidelines and fire up voters for a 'blue wave' in November.  
A political strategist told The Hill this week: 'There’s f**king no one else. ... Bill Clinton is toxic, Carter is too old, and there’s no one else around for miles.'
'The desire among Democrats for Obama to take a more leading role in the midterm fight and party building in general is just getting stronger, particularly with the lack of alternatives.'

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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by annemarie on Sat 16 Jun 2018, 16:22

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5851459/White-House-criticizes-comments-Joe-Scarborough-comparing-federal-action-Nazi-tactics.html

[size=34]White House calls comments by MSNBC's Joe Scarborough comparing federal action taken under Trump's immigration policies to Nazi tactics 'appalling' and 'shameful'[/size]

  • MSNBC's Joe Scarborough's called out 'Nazi'-like actions by federal authorities at US border crossings on Friday, which angered the White House

  • Scarborough pointed out that federal agents at US borders have reportedly been saying children are being taken to 'shower' and never returning with them 

  • White House deputy press secretary Hogan Gidley said in a statement provided to Fox News that the comments were 'appalling' and 'shameful'

  • Scarborough made the comment after discussing White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders' repeated declarations that family separations where 'the law'

  • President Donald Trump maintains the Democrats are to blame for separations 

  • However, a Trump administration policy shift now treats attempted illegal entry as criminal rather than civil, thus requiring family separations in those situations


By STEPHANIE HANEY FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 10:20 EDT, 16 June 2018 | UPDATED: 10:25 EDT, 16 June 2018

    


The White House called MSNBC's Joe Scarborough's comments comparing the actions of immigration law enforcement officers at US border crossings to those of Nazis 'appalling' on Friday.
Scarborough pointed out while hosting 'Morning Joe' on Friday that federal agents at US borders have reportedly used tactics similar to those used by Nazi soldiers during World War II to separate Jewish families, in saying children are being taken to 'shower' and never returning with them. 
'This is the type of inflammatory and unacceptable rhetoric that puts a target on the backs of our great law enforcement,' White House deputy press secretary Hogan Gidley said in a statement provided to Fox News. 
President Donald Trump has maintained that it's the fault of Democrats in Congress that immigration is at its current state.

But the high numbers of unaccompanied minors being separated from parents at official US border crossings is directly related to a policy change by Trump's administration that now treats attempting to enter the country illegally as a crime rather than a civil infraction.
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The White House called MSNBC's Joe Scarborough's comments comparing the actions of immigration law enforcement officers at US borders to those of Nazis 'appalling' on Friday
'I know children are being ripped from their mother’s arms, even while they’re being breast-fed. I know children are being marched away to showers, marched away to showers,' Scarborough said.
'Being told they are — just like the Nazis — said that they were taking people to the showers and then they never came back.'
Scarborough continued: 'You think they would use another trick like, "Hey, got a slurpee room over there. We’re going to take them to get a slurpee." That would be better than, "We’re marching them to the showers and we’ll be right back," and they never come back.'
Scarborough's comments were preceded by a discussion of how White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders continued to say variations of, 'It's the law,' when asked about families being separated at the borders, when it's actually not the law.


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In response to Scarborough's reaction to Sanders comments, the Trump administration policy and the manner in which it's reportedly being carried out, White House deputy press secretary Hogan Gidley (shown) called the morning show host's commentary 'shameful' and inaccurate



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President Donald Trump answers questions during a press conference following his meeting with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un on Tuesday in Singapore
It's under a 'zero tolerance' policy announced by Attorney General Jeff Sessions that Department of Homeland Security officials are now referring all cases of illegal entry for criminal prosecution. 
This is a shift, in that these cases used to be handled as civil infractions, which did not result in a criminal charge and therefore did not require detention of the adult. 
Now that illegal entry cases are being handled as criminal charges and prompting detention, US protocol prohibits detaining children with their parents because the children are not charged with a crime and the parents are. 
About 2,000 children have been separated from their families at the border over a six-week period during a crackdown on illegal entries, according to US Department of Homeland Security figures obtained by The Associated Press on Friday.


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The figures show that 1,995 minors were separated from 1,940 adults between April 19 and May 31, breaking down to an average of 46 children per day being separated from their families.
The separations were not broken down by age, and included separations for illegal entry, immigration violations, or possible criminal conduct by the adult. 
The new figures are for people who tried to enter the US between official border crossings.   
The policy has been widely criticized by church groups, politicians and children's advocates who say it is inhumane.  
Asylum seekers who go directly to official crossings are not separated from their families, except in specific circumstances including if officials can't confirm the relationship between the minor and adults, safety of the children, or if the adult is being prosecuted. 


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Multiple reporters at Friday's press briefing at the White House appeared visibly upset, with Playboy reporter Brian Karem (left) asking White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders (right), 'Don't you have any empathy?'


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About 2,000 children have been separated from their families at the border over a six-week period during a crackdown on illegal entries; Occupants at Casa Padre, an immigrant shelter for unaccompanied minors in Brownsville, Texas, are seen in this photo taken on Thursday
Scarborough wasn't the only one set off by Sanders' seeming to dodge the moral question of why the Trump administration has chosen this approach. Multiple reporters at Thursday's press briefing at the White House appeared visibly upset, with Playboy reporter Brian Karem asking Sanders:
'You're a parent, don't you have any empathy for what these people are going through?'
Sanders told Karem, who is also a CNN analyst and executive editor for The Montgomery County Sentinel, that she would not answer him because he was shouting at her, out of turn. 
In response to Scarborough's reaction to Sanders comments, the Trump administration policy and the manner in which it's reportedly being carried out, Gidley called the morning show host's commentary 'shameful' and inaccurate.
'It is appalling that Joe Scarborough would compare sworn federal law enforcement officers— who put their lives on the line every day to keep American people safe— to Nazis,' Gidley said in the statement.  
'It is also horribly insulting to the memory of the 6 million Jews who perished in the Nazi Holocaust. Not only is Scarborough’s rhetoric shameful, but his facts are categorically false. When American citizens break the law, they are separated from their children and prosecuted. It’s unclear why Scarborough believes that illegal aliens are entitled to more rights than those afforded to American citizens. While Scarborough is quick to launch into his straight-to-camera outrage over the temporary separation of illegal alien families, he has never shown similar outrage for the permanent separation of American families forever torn apart from their children, who were killed by criminal aliens as a result of Democrats’ open borders policies,” Gidley continued.
'If Joe Scarborough actually cared about keeping illegal alien families together, he would use his platform to support the Trump Administration’s efforts to close loopholes in federal immigration law,' the statement said.  



Scarborough fired back on Twitter, defending his comments, on Saturday





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President Donald Trump tweeted on Friday that Democrats were to blame for the 'breakup of families at the Border with their horrible and cruel legislative agenda'
Scarborough fired back on Twitter, defending his comments, on Saturday.
'I am sorry that the Trump Administration has created a vicious policy where parents are told their children are being taken to showers and never return. Such inhumanity is un-American. You can quote me on that,' he wrote. 
Another tweet from Scarborough on Saturday read:
'I feel pity for Trump stooges who lack the character to oppose his heartless policy that rips babies from their mothers’ arms and sends children to showers and then disappear.' 
These posts came after Trump tweeted on Friday:
'The Democrats are forcing the breakup of families at the Border with their horrible and cruel legislative agenda. Any Immigration Bill MUST HAVE full funding for the Wall, end Catch & Release, Visa Lottery and Chain, and go to Merit Based Immigration. Go for it! WIN!'
On Thursday, Sessions cited the Bible in defending his policy, arguing the recent criticisms were not 'fair or logical and some are contrary to law.'
'I would cite you to the Apostle Paul and his clear and wise command in Romans 13, to obey the laws of the government because God has ordained them for the purpose of order,' he said.
The International Rescue Committee, a humanitarian aid group, released a statement on Friday saying: 'A policy of willing cruelty to those people, and using young sons and daughters as pawns, shatters America’s strong foundation of humanitarian sensibility and family values.' 


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Unaccompanied minors stand in a line on Thursday at Casa Padre, an immigrant shelter for unaccompanied minors, in Brownsville, Texas

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Post by annemarie on Sat 16 Jun 2018, 16:26

I know that this immigration rule was on the books and the Dems didn't close the loop hole. My thought is why would they

no one has ever used this tactic and i'm guessing they thought no one ever would .

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Post by LizzyNY on Sat 16 Jun 2018, 17:41

If Trump's policies had been in effect when his draft-dodging grandfather emigrated (via chain migration) to the US (to become a criminal - he was a human trafficker - he ran a brothel) if Trump had been born at all, it would have been in Germany. Someone really needs to invent time travel!
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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by Donnamarie on Sat 16 Jun 2018, 18:59

Joe Scarborough’s comment may have been somewhat sensational and over the top but the intent was to bring attention to this horrendous policy that Trump has enacted.  This is not a Democratic law.  It was the previous administrations’ policy to keep immigrant families together if they were to be put in dentention facilities.  Despite what Trump’s aide said in response to Joe’s comments it is actually shameful and embarrassing what this administration is doing.  And on top of that to invoke biblical scripture to justify their actions is disgraceful.  

This policy was enacted in May of this year by the Trump administration.   If Trump is so ‘sad’ and concerned for these children like he says he is (don’t believe it for a minute) all he has to do is change the  damn policy.
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Post by party animal - not! on Sat 16 Jun 2018, 19:04

I quite like this.......

https://twitter.com/ScottFrazier19/status/999977971598413824

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Post by annemarie on Sat 16 Jun 2018, 23:05

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5852055/Parents-hit-132-000-bill-five-year-old-son-knocks-sculpture.html

[size=34]Parents are hit with $132,000 bill after their five-year-old knocks over a glass sculpture while 'hugging' it[/size]

  • Shannon Goodman's five-year-old son knocked the sculpture over on May 19 

  • It was being displayed at a community center in Kansas City, Kansas 

  • Afterwards, she received a letter from the city's insurance company 

  • It valued the artwork, which has pieces of glass and mirror on it, at $132,000

  • Goodman said she will not pay that and insists it was simply an accident 

  • The artist says he wants what is owed to him because the  piece is now damaged 


By JENNIFER SMITH FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 15:56 EDT, 16 June 2018 | UPDATED: 16:32 EDT, 16 June 2018

    



A boy's parents have been hit with a $132,000 bill after he accidentally knocked over a glass sculpture by hugging it. 
The boy was at a wedding reception at Overland Park community center in Kansas City, Kansas, where Aphrodite di Kansas City, a glass and mirror sculpture, was on display on May 19. 
Surveillance footage shows him toddling up towards it and wrapping his arms around it while his mother Shannon Goodman and other adults chat on sofas nearby. 
He accidentally pulled it towards him and it toppled over on to him, causing damage to the back of the figure's head and arms. 

It left him with scratches on his face. In the video, he sheepishly looked towards his mother after the accident. 



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The boy is shown above on surveillance footage approaching the sculpture and putting his arms around it as his mother sits on a sofa nearby


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He pulled it towards him and was overpowered by its weight 


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With the statue on the floor, the boy rolled out from under it and got to his feet


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He then ran away as his mother approached to see what had happened 



Now, the artist Bill Lyons wants to be reimbursed for the money he says he has lost because he can't sell it. 


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This is the sculpture the boy knocked over. It is called Aphrodite Di Kansas City and is made of glass and pieces of mirror. The artist says the top of it was damaged when he pulled it over
He estimated its worth to be $132,000. 
Lyons had loaned the sculpture to the city of Overland Park to put on display. It was the city's representatives who contacted Goodman asking for her to pay. 
She had expected the sculpture to be much less valuable and was stunned when she received a letter from the city's insurance company. 
'It’s clear accidents happen and this was an accident. I don’t want to diminish the value of their art. But I can’t pay for that,' she told The Kansas City Star.  
She explained that she was saying goodbye to the bride's father when her son wandered off towards the statue but insisted he and his three siblings, who were also there, are always well behaved.
'He probably hugged it. 
'Maybe my son hugged a torso because he’s a loving, sweet nice boy who just graduated from preschool.'


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Stunned: The boy's mother, Shannon Goodman, said she was shocked by the value of the artwork 
A spokesman for the city of Overland Park said it had filed a claim with Travelers, its insurance company. 
'The city has a responsibility to file a claim with our insurance company, and we do that any time city property is damaged. 
'It will be up to the insurance companies to get this worked out,' they said. 
Lyons, the artist, said: 'I want to be reimbursed for the amount of time that I spent on it and for what I think it is worth.'

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Post by annemarie on Sat 16 Jun 2018, 23:09

It's simple teach your child not too touch things that aren't his. Also, since your the mom keep up with him .

This drives me crazy when I'm out , people just let their kids run around anywhere , it's not a park so have them stand or sit still.

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Post by annemarie on Sun 17 Jun 2018, 10:25

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5852951/Former-CIA-director-slammed-comparing-Trumps-immigration-policy-Nazi-Germany.html

[size=34]'Other governments separated mothers and children': Former CIA director is slammed for comparing Trump's immigration policy to that used by the Nazis during the Holocaust[/size]

  • Former CIA director General Michael Hayden sparked outrage on Twitter 

  • He shared a picture of Birkenau in Auschwitz and compared it to US immigration

  • 'Other governments separated mothers and children,' he captioned the image

  • When one angry follower asked if he was on drugs, he said 'no, voignier'

  • US immigration policy has seen nearly 2,000 children separated from parents


By HANNAH MOORE FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 01:40 EDT, 17 June 2018 | UPDATED: 01:40 EDT, 17 June 2018

    



The former head of the CIA posted a series of ominous tweets on Saturday, likening Trump's immigration policy to Nazi Germany.
General Michael Hayden, 73, shared a black and white picture of the train tracks leading to Birkenau, and wrote: 'Other governments have separated mothers and children'.
Birkenau, also known as Auschwitz II, was the largest camp in the Auschwitz complex, and is the place where about 90 per cent of roughly 1.3million people transported to Auschwitz died.


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Former CIA director General Michael Hayden caused outrage on Twitter on Saturday when he compared the US' immigration policy to Nazi Germany


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Hayden's own position on the policy was not entirely clear, but he appeared dismissive of anyone who tried to tell him off for his actions
People reacted angrily to the General's comparison - finding it in poor taste and insulting to those who went through the German concentration camps. 


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When he was asked by one follower if he was on drugs he responded: 'No. Voignier'
'There’s no other way to say it... What an ignorant f***. How can anyone compare the genocidal atrocities of Nazi Germany to what’s happening now,' Twitter user Topher Carlton wrote.

'Utterly disgusting, and deeply insulting to those who perished & to the survivors.'
Keeping his words brief, the General responded: 'Wasn’t hard. Really. No effort at all'.
When one social media user told Hayden their mother-in-law was in the Holocaust, he responded within minutes. 
Continuing as ominously as he started, he wrote: 'Civilization is a thin veneer that must be protected'.
Another simply asked: 'Are you on drugs?' to which he responded: 'No. Voignier' - a type of wine.


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A new 'zero-tolerance' policy has seen undocumented immigrants face mass trials (pictured) with most not knowing where their children are
From his tweets, it is not entirely clear where the General stands on Trump's immigration policy, which has seen thousands of children separated from their parents. 
The administration has brought in a 'zero tolerance' policy, that sees everyone who tries to enter the US illegally prosecuted. Because the children are not charged with a crime, they are not able to be detained with their parents.


In just six weeks, Homeland Security reported nearly 2,000 children had been separated from their families.
Halfway through his discussion, Hayden was distracted by a conversation about wine his 'voignier' comment appeared to have sparked.


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Hayden (pictured right with former President George Bush) said it took 'no effort at all' to make the shocking comparison 

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Post by LizzyNY on Sun 17 Jun 2018, 13:34

It isn't the same thing - but it is the first step. He's right when he says that "civilization is a thin veneer". Look at what's been happening in this country since the election. It doesn't take a genius to see that if Trump reigns unchecked, we are heading down the same road.

Before WWII most people the Nazis targeted refused to believe that such atrocities could happen. Who could believe that such a civilized nation could do such horrible things? They stayed in place until it was too late because they didn't think it could happen. Then it did.. They died.

We should not be taking offense at the general's words. Someone is sounding a warning bell and we should listen. How many would have survived WWII if they had listened?

Trump must be stopped.
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Post by Donnamarie on Sun 17 Jun 2018, 19:53

I totally agree Lizzy.  As with Scarborough’s comment about taking the children to the showers Hayden’s comments were overtly sensational.  It’s tricky when anyone goes down the path of making comparisons to Nazi Germany or Hitler.  That time in world history was the epitome of evil.  What could compare to that?  
What is happening right now with illegal immigration is not the same by any stretch but it is a sign of our country going in the wrong direction when it comes to our morals and values as the United States of America. 
Sadly we’ve been here before many times.  It’s a shameful part of the fabric of our country’s history .... the last episode being Japanese internment camps.  

Trump must be stopped. Yes!!  People need to wake up!  
Read the news.  Stay informed.  Take our democracy seriously.  And vote in November!
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Post by annemarie on Mon 18 Jun 2018, 01:22

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5854223/Melania-wants-president-govern-heart-amid-illegal-immigrant-children-crisis.html

[size=34]Melania says she wants the president to govern 'with heart' amid crisis of illegal immigrant children separated from adults – but official insists changes will 'require' Democrats to fund Trump's wall[/size]

  • First lady Melania Trump said Sunday that she wants to see an administration that 'governs with heart' 

  • She addressed the crisis of illegal immigrant children being housed separately from adult guardians who are being prosecuted for jumping the U.S. border

  • An administration official said Sunday that the situation is no different from other criminals who are separated from their families while in jail awaiting trials 

  • Trump counselor Kellyanne Conway said Sunday on 'Meet the Press' that 'nobody likes this policy

  • But 'Congress passed the law that it is a crime to enter this country illegally,' she said; 'so if they don’t like that law, they should change it'


By DAVID MARTOSKO, US POLITICAL EDITOR FOR DAILYMAIL.COM 
PUBLISHED: 15:11 EDT, 17 June 2018 | UPDATED: 16:34 EDT, 17 June 2018

    


First lady Melania Trump appeared on Sunday to break with the Trump administration's 'zero tolerance' policy on illegal immigrant children crossing into the United States with adult family members.
The debate over the policy has focused on approximately 2,000 children who have been separated from their parents or adult guardians and transported to either government facilities or foster care.
Resulting photos of the circumstances under which some of the minors are being housed have driven Democrats to decry the situation as 'heartless' and 'immoral' – and to call for the use of discretion that would
The first lady's spokeswoman Stephanie Grisham said in a statement to DailyMail.com, CNN and other outlets that 'Mrs. Trump hates to see children separated from their families and hopes both sides of the aisle can finally come together to achieve successful immigration reform.'

'She believes we need to be a country that follows all laws, but also a country that governs with heart.'


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First lady Melania Trump said Sunday that she wants to see an administration that 'governs with heart,' speaking about the unfolding crisis of illegal immigrant children being housed separately from adult guardians who are being prosecuted for jumping the U.S. border


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About 2,000 minors are being housed in specialized detention centers, drawing howls of protest from immigration advocates and Democratic lawmakers who oppose President Trump at every turn


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A national debate has erupted over how the children are being treated, with Democrats claiming they're being kept in cages and Republicans circulating photos like this one – showing a teddy bear on a cot in one of the shelters


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While some of the holding centers are overcrowded, the Health and Human Services Department is trying to put a positive spin on a situation that the Trump administration says is an unavoidable consequence of strictly following existing immigration laws. An administration official said Sunday that the situation is no different from other criminals who are separated from their families while in jail awaiting trials
What 'successful' immigration reform means, however, is in the eye of the beholder. 
The Justice and Homeland Security Departments are strictly applying immigration law, which treats border-jumpers as lawbreakers worthy of prosecution.
The month-old 'zero tolerance' approach was put into place in response to a dramatic increase in the number of illegal immigrants being apprehended at or near America's southern border.
That outcome, however, puts children who crossed the U.S.-Mexico border with them in the same category as children of other criminal defendants – meaning they can't remain in custody with adults who are often their parents.
'It's the same as any other child who is left separated from a father or a mother who's held in jail pending prosecution of a criminal case,' an administration official told DailyMail.com on Sunday.
That outlook is shared by Attorney General Jeff Sessions and the president.
Trump tweeted Sunday that 'Democrats can fix their forced family breakup at the Border by working with Republicans on new legislation, for a change! This is why we need more Republicans elected in November. Democrats are good at only three things, High Taxes, High Crime and Obstruction. Sad!' 


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U.S. Border Patrol agents took a father and son from Honduras into custody near the U.S.-Mexico border on June 12


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President Trump has been blaming Democrats for refusing to go along with Republican immigration bills that would fund his border wall in exchange for legal changes in how many illegal immigrants are treated while their cases unfold
In this case, however, the children are initially housed by the Department of Health and Human Services, compared to minor citizens who are left with a single parent or referred to civilian foster care.
The official requested anonymity to speak freely, saying: 'There's no reason to treat any class of criminals differently than any other.'
'If Democrats want to change the law, they can come along with Republicans. That, however, will require a longer-term solution including more border security.'
'Border security' is the Trump administration's most common substitute language for the wall that Trump has promised since early in the presidential campaign.
Aside from serving as legislative leverage to secure funding for the wall, the president and Sessions have repeatedly defended their chosen method of enforcing federal law, saying it has the added benefit of deterring future border-crossers.



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Protesters blocked an entrance to the headquarters of U.S. Customs and Border Protection during a protest on June 13, 2018 that included some Democratic members of Congress


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Another group of protesters chanted slogans outside an ICE detention center in downtown Los Angeles on June 14, part of a push to oppose new family separation policies


The president has sometimes clumsily blamed Democrats for his policy, drawing howls of protests and claims Trump is a liar from commentators, immigration advocates and some news outlets as a whole, most notably CNN and The New York Times.
Some in the administration have openly signaled their distaste with the policy and its effects.
'As a mother, as a Catholic, as somebody who's got a conscience ... I will tell you that nobody likes this policy,” Trump counselor Kellyanne Conway said Sunday on 'Meet the Press.'
She also tossed the political hot potato down Pennsylvania Avenue to Capitol Hill.
'Congress passed the law that it is a crime to enter this country illegally,' she added. 'So if they don’t like that law, they should change it.'


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Trump counselor Kellyanne Conway said Sunday on 'Meet the Press' that 'nobody likes this policy,' but 'Congress passed the law that it is a crime to enter this country illegally. So if they don’t like that law, they should change it'


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The policy of separating children from parents was sparsely applied during the Obama administration but there were cases where minors were held or referred to foster care while their parents were awaiting prosecution






Senate Democrats remain the most persistent obstacles to a deal, refusing to join Republicans in a majority large enough to break a filibuster and bring a bill to a vote.
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, a Republican, has refused to invoke a 'nuclear option' that Trump favors, abolition of the filibuster, a move that would allow Republicans to pass a White House-friendly proposal by the slimmest of margins.
The president is expected to meet with the entire GOP caucus Tuesday in Congress to drive congressional Republicans toward either of two immigration bills stuck in legislative purgatory.
Melania Trump last month unveiled a White House 'Be Best' initiative, a children's welfare platform focusing on 'well-being, social media use, and opioid abuse.'
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Post by carolhathaway on Mon 18 Jun 2018, 06:44

So when somebody committes a crime in the States like, let's say stealing something in a shop and has an underaged child, it is taken away and brought to an unknown place in any case? No matter how old the child is? And without finding out if there are any relatives who could take care of the child?
In Germany, they try not to imprison parents of small children if there's nobody else to look after them inbetween accusation abd convincing, and they try to suspend those parents on suspended sentence if it was a trivial offence. There are many prisons (which is where you go after you're convicted to have committed a crime) where parents - mostly mothers - can take their small children with them. If they go to school already, they will stay with foster parents or in a children's home. But in no case children are taken away from their parents without their knowledge.
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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by annemarie on Mon 18 Jun 2018, 10:26

Carol, Children with parent's who have bee arrested are not taken away. They are taken care of by family or friends.

What Trump is doing is simply a ploy too get that damn wall built. Since the Democrats won't include the wall in the immigration deal. 

This is his way of getting even with them He is a lower than a snake , how you can use innocent family's especially children too get your way  is beyond me.

A lot of the people who support him don't care , they seem too think that's fine what they are doing is illegal so that is the rule great he is in forcing it.

What is so horrible is most Mexican's are hard working and just looking for a better life for their families. Yes there are those who do wrong but there are those people in all races  not just Mexican

Trump and his family will meet Karma one day. They are all too stupid too realize that what they do they will pay for
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Post by annemarie on Mon 18 Jun 2018, 10:32

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5854987/Illegal-immigrant-parents-told-children-going-bath-theyre-separated.html

[size=34]Detention center volunteer says border agents 'tell illegal immigrant parents that they are taking their children for a bath before separating them' as photos reveal the inside of a Texas processing center[/size]

  • Agents have reportedly told parents they were taking their children for a bath  

  • The children would then be separated from their parents, an advocate revealed  

  • Those children are now living in detention centers along the US-Mexico border

  • Heartbreaking photos released Sunday showed inside of a processing center 

  • Kids were seen lying on green mats with foil sheets intended to serve as blankets

  • Hundreds of children were seen waiting in cages created by metal fencing

  • Between mid-April and the end of May, almost 2,000 children were separated from their parents after crossing over US-Mexico border 


By VALERIE EDWARDS FOR DAILYMAIL.COM and ASSOCIATED PRESS
PUBLISHED: 21:07 EDT, 17 June 2018 | UPDATED: 03:25 EDT, 18 June 2018

    



Border agents have reportedly been telling illegal immigrant parents that they are taking their children 'for a bath' before separating them.
Anne Chandler, the director of the Houston office of Tahirih Justice Center said she's spoken with several parents who were told their children were going to get washed, before guards informed them they would never see their kids again.
She made the stunning claims as heartbreaking photos were released showing have inside of a processing center in Texas, where illegal immigrant children are taken. 
On Friday, it was revealed that nearly 2,000 children were separated from adults at the border between mid-April and the end of May.

Those children are now living in detention centers along the US-Mexico border. 
'The officers say, "I'm going to take your child to get bathed." That's one we see again and again. "Your child needs to come with me for a bath,"' Chandler told Texas Monthly.  
'The child goes off, and in a half an hour, twenty minutes, the parent inquires, "Where is my five-year-old? Where's my seven-year-old? This is a long bath." And they say, "You won't be seeing your child again."' 
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Border agents have reportedly been telling illegal immigrant parents that they are taking their children 'for a bath' before separating them. This heartbreaking photo shows the children at a Border Patrol processing facility in McAllen, Texas 


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Anne Chandler, the director of the Houston office of Tahirih Justice Center said she's spoken with several parents who said they were told their children were going to get a bath before they were separated
Chandler said that in some cases agents simply tell the parents that they are taking their children away.
'And when the parent asks, "When will we get them back?" they say, "We can't tell you that,"' she said. 
Chandler said the officers also tell the parents that they are going to 'prosecuted' or  that they aren't 'welcome in this country'.
In May, Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced a 'zero tolerance' policy in which all those apprehended entering the US illegally, including those seeking asylum, would be criminally charged, which generally leads to children being separated from their parents. 
The policy has drawn condemnation from medical professionals, religious leaders and immigration activists, who warn that some children could suffer lasting psychological trauma. 
But nonetheless, the children are separated from their parents, held in government facilities, released to adult sponsors or placed in temporary foster care.


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Other photos show children in single-file line and sitting next to one another like 'caged-animals'


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The McAllen facility is reportedly where more kids are separated from their parents than anywhere else in the US
Heartbreaking photos showed the inside of the largest Border Patrol processing station in the US, which is located in McAllen, Texas. The US Border Patrol allowed reporters to briefly visit the facility on Sunday.
Inside the old warehouse, hundreds of children wait in a series of cages created by metal fencing. 
One cage had 20 children inside. Scattered about are bottles of water and bags of chips.
Children were seen lying on dark green mats with large foil sheets intended to serve as blankets. 
Other photos show children in single-file line and sitting next to one another. 
One teenager told an advocate who visited that she was helping care for a young child she didn't know because the child's aunt was somewhere else in the facility. 
She said she had to show others in her cell how to change the girl's diaper.
More than 1,100 people were inside the large, dark facility that's divided into separate wings for unaccompanied children, adults on their own, and mothers and fathers with children. 


The cages in each wing open out into common areas to use portable restrooms. The overhead lighting in the warehouse stays on around the clock. 
According to the Border Patrol, close to 200 people inside the facility were minors unaccompanied by a parent. 
Another 500 were 'family units,' parents and children. Many adults who crossed the border without legal permission could be charged with illegal entry and placed in jail, away from their children. 
The McAllen facility is reportedly where more kids are separated from their parents than anywhere else in the US. 
Administration officials have defended the tactic as necessary to secure the border and suggested it would act as a deterrent to illegal immigration, while Trump has sought to blame Democrats, saying their support for passage of a broader immigration bill would end the separations.
Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, the head of the Department of Homeland Security even bashed the media on Sunday for 'misreporting'.
'This misreporting by Members, press & advocacy groups must stop. It is irresponsible and unproductive. As I have said many times before, if you are seeking asylum for your family, there is no reason to break the law and illegally cross between ports of entry,' she tweeted.
'We do not have a policy of separating families at the border. Period,' Nielsen added. 


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Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, the head of the Department of Homeland Security even bashed the media on Sunday for 'misreporting'





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'As a mother, as a Catholic, as somebody who has got a conscience. ... I will tell you that nobody likes this policy,' White House adviser Kellyanne Conway said on NBC's Meet the Press on Sunday. 
'You saw the president (say) on camera that he wants this to end.' 
Democrats have accused Trump of effectively turning the children into political hostages to secure stricter immigration measures, such as funding for a US-Mexico border wall.
'Stop lying to the American people. This is your policy,' Democratic US Representative Hakeem Jeffries said in New Jersey.
Democratic Sen Jeff Merkley of Oregon, who was denied entry earlier this month to children's shelter, said: 'Those kids inside who have been separated from their parents are already being traumatized.'
'It doesn't matter whether the floor is swept and the bedsheets tucked in tight,' he added. 
In Texas' Rio Grande Valley, the busiest corridor for people trying to enter the US, Border Patrol officials argue that they have to crack down on migrants and separate adults from children as a deterrent to others.



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Democratic lawmakers (including Reps Jerrold Nadler, center, and Carolyn Maloney, second frim right) tried to gain access to an ICE facility in Elizabeth, New Jersey on Sunday where children have been detained


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Reps Albio Spires (left) and Bill Pascrell (right) try to gain access to the ICE detention facility
'When you exempt a group of people from the law ... that creates a draw,' said Manuel Padilla, the Border Patrol's chief agent here. 'That creates the trends right here.'
Agents running the holding facility - generally known as 'Ursula' for the name of the street it's on - said everyone detained is given adequate food, access to showers and laundered clothes, and medical care. 
People are supposed to move through the facility quickly. Under US law, children are required to be turned over within three days to shelters funded by the Department of Health and Human Services.
Padilla said agents in the Rio Grande Valley have allowed families with children under the age of five to stay together in most cases.
Democratic lawmakers joined hundreds of protesters outside an immigration detention facility in New Jersey on Sunday for a Father's Day demonstration against the Trump administration's practice of separating children from their parents.
'This must not be who we are as a nation,' said Representative Jerrold Nadler, one of seven members of Congress from New York and New Jersey who met with five detainees inside the facility, including three who said they had young relatives removed from their care after seeking asylum at the border.
The lawmakers in Elizabeth waited about 90 minutes to gain access to the detention facility, which is operated for the US government by a private contractor. 


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Trump's 'zero tolerance' policy generally leads to children being separated from their parents. The image above which was released on Sunday shows a child eating at an unaccompanied alien children program shelter in Brownsville, Texas


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Democrats in the US House of Representatives will introduce legislation this week aimed at stopping separations, mirroring a similar Senate bill sponsored by Democrat Dianne Feinstein. Children are pictured at the detention center in Brownsville 
In South Texas on Sunday, several Democratic lawmakers, including Senator Jeff Merkley, toured detention facilities to call attention to the policy, while Representative Beto O'Rourke, who is running for the US Senate in Texas, said he would march with protesters to the border.
'This is inhumane,' O'Rourke told CNN. 'I'd like to say it's un-American, but it's happening right now in America.'
Some moderate Republicans have also called on Trump to stop the separations. 
Senators Susan Collins and Jeff Flake wrote to White House officials on Saturday seeking more information on the policy.
'It is inconsistent with our American values to separate these children from their parents,' Collins said on CBS' Face the Nation on Sunday.
A spokeswoman for Melania Trump told CNN on Sunday that the first lady 'hates to see children separated from their families' and hopes lawmakers from both parties can agree on immigration reform, in what was a rare public statement on a policy issue from the president's wife. 
Her 'Be Best' platform, unveiled in May, is dedicated to children's well-being.
Democrats in the US House of Representatives will introduce legislation this week aimed at stopping separations, mirroring a similar Senate bill sponsored by Democrat Dianne Feinstein. 
But neither bill has much hope of securing enough support in the Republican-controlled Congress, let alone surviving Trump's veto pen.
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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by party animal - not! on Mon 18 Jun 2018, 10:51

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/laura-bush-family-separation-us-border_us_5b274105e4b056b2263b4e91

Scathing article by Laura Bush, a former educator..........

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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by Donnamarie on Mon 18 Jun 2018, 14:35

I was glad to hear from the former First Lady.  Barely a brave (a relative term in this regard) Republican Member of Congress has come forward to denounce this policy except for maybe three or four who are leaving Congress at the end of term anyway.  The Republicans have squandered their morality to hold onto any power they can.  What they fear is political death by a Trump tweet.

What is absolutely clear and the truth.  These immigrant children are being held hostage for a wall.
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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by annemarie on Mon 18 Jun 2018, 15:36

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5856217/Homeland-Security-Secretary-fires-controversy-grows-immigration-policy.html

[size=34]We do not have a policy of separating families at the border': Homeland security secretary fires back as controversy grows after nearly 2,000 children are taken away from parents[/size]

  • Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen said 'advocacy groups' are not reporting the truth

  • Explains that only lawbreakers will be separated from their children 

  • Massive flow of negative press has come over border separation of families

  • Nielsen criticized illegal border crossers who claim asylum

  • She said asylum-seekers at regular points of entry aren't breaking federal law


By VALERIE EDWARDS and DAVID MARTOSKO, U.S. POLITICAL EDITOR FOR DAILYMAIL.COM andWIRES
PUBLISHED: 08:30 EDT, 18 June 2018 | UPDATED: 09:12 EDT, 18 June 2018

    



Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen attacked reporters and members of Congress on Sunday for 'misreporting' details of the Trump administration's immigration policy. 
Nielsen also said 'advocacy groups' are unfairly blaming the president and her agency for a policy that results in separating nearly 2,000 children from their parents.
'We do not have a policy of separating families at the border. Period,' she tweeted.
Nielsen called the president's opponents 'irresponsible and unproductive' for turning the border situation into an international story.

'As I have said many times before, if you are seeking asylum for your family, there is no reason to break the law and illegally cross between ports of entry,' she tweeted.
She explained: 'For those seeking asylum at ports of entry, we have continued the policy from previous Administrations and will only separate if the child is in danger, there is no custodial relationship between 'family' members, or if the adult has broken a law.' 


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A two-year-old Honduran cries as her mother is searched and detained near the US-Mexico border on June 12. She had illegally crossed the Rio Grande on a raft to reach Texas


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Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen (pictured) also said 'advocacy groups' are failing to accurately report on troubles at the border that have led to nearly 2,000 children being taken away from their parents





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Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, the head of the Department of Homeland Security even bashed the media on Sunday for 'misreporting'


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A Honduran mother holds her two-year-old as U.S. Border Patrol as agents review their papers near the U.S.-Mexico border 








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A Honduran mother removes her two-year-old daughter's shoe laces, as required by U.S. Border Patrol agents, after being detained near the U.S.-Mexico border


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Neilsen's weigh-in comes after the leader of one immigration advocacy group claimed border agents have been telling illegal immigrant parents that they are taking their children 'for a bath' before taking them away.
Anne Chandler, the director of the Houston office of Tahirih Justice Center, said she's spoken with several parents who were told their children were going to get washed, before guards informed them they would never see the kids again.
She made the stunning claims as heartbreaking photos were released showing the inside of a processing center in Texas, where illegal immigrant children are taken.
On Friday it was revealed that nearly 2,000 children were separated from adults at the border between mid-April and the end of May.
Those children are now living in detention centers along the U.S.-Mexico border. 
'The officers say, "I'm going to take your child to get bathed." That's one we see again and again. "Your child needs to come with me for a bath,"' Chandler told Texas Monthly.  
'The child goes off, and in a half an hour, twenty minutes, the parent inquires, "Where is my five-year-old? Where's my seven-year-old? This is a long bath." And they say, "You won't be seeing your child again".'


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Border agents have reportedly been telling illegal immigrant parents that they are taking their children 'for a bath' before separating them. This heartbreaking photo shows the children at a Border Patrol processing facility in McAllen, Texas 


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Anne Chandler, the director of the Houston office of Tahirih Justice Center said she's spoken with several parents who said they were told their children were going to get a bath before they were separated
Chandler said that in some cases agents simply tell the parents that they are taking their children away.
'And when the parent asks, "When will we get them back?" they say, "We can't tell you that,"' she said.
Her claims have not been confirmed or verified. 
Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced a 'zero tolerance' policy in May, directing that illegal immigrants apprehended near the border must be criminally charged, which generally leads to children being separated from their parents.
That directive includes people who claim asylum after jumping the border instead of making their request at a regular point of entry – something Neilsen said Sunday is not against the law.
The policy has drawn condemnation from medical professionals, religious leaders and immigration activists, who warn that some children could suffer lasting psychological trauma. 
The children are held in government facilities, released to adult sponsors or placed in temporary foster care.


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Other photos show children in single-file line and sitting next to one another like 'caged-animals'


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The McAllen facility is reportedly where more kids are separated from their parents than anywhere else in the US
Heartbreaking photos showed the inside of the largest Border Patrol processing station in the US, which is located in McAllen, Texas. Border Patrol agents allowed reporters to briefly visit the facility on Sunday.
Inside the old warehouse, hundreds of children wait behind metal fencing.
One 'cage' had 20 children inside. Scattered about were snacks and bottles of water.
Children were seen lying on dark green mats with large foil sheets intended to serve as blankets. Other photos show minors in single-file line and sitting next to one another.
One teenager told an advocate who visited that she was helping care for a young child she didn't know because the child's aunt was somewhere else in the facility. 
She said she had to show others in her cell how to change the girl's diaper.
More than 1,100 people were inside the large, dark facility that's divided into separate wings for unaccompanied children, adults on their own, and mothers and fathers with children. 


The cages in each wing open out into common areas to use portable restrooms. The overhead lighting in the warehouse stays on around the clock. 
According to the Border Patrol, close to 200 people inside the facility were minors unaccompanied by a parent. 
Another 500 were 'family units,' parents and children. Many adults who crossed the border without legal permission could be charged with illegal entry and placed in jail, away from their children. 
The McAllen facility is reportedly where more kids are separated from their parents than anywhere else in the US. 
Administration officials have defended the tactic as necessary to secure the border and suggested it would act as a deterrent to illegal immigration, while Trump has sought to blame Democrats, saying their support for passage of a broader immigration bill would end the separations. 

'As a mother, as a Catholic, as somebody who has got a conscience. ... I will tell you that nobody likes this policy,' White House adviser Kellyanne Conway said Sunday on 'Meet the Press.'
'You saw the president [say] on camera that he wants this to end.'
Democrats have accused Trump of effectively turning the children into political hostages to secure stricter immigration measures, such as funding for a U.S.-Mexico border wall.
'Stop lying to the American people. This is your policy,' Democratic Rep. Hakeem Jeffries said in New Jersey.
Democratic Sen Jeff Merkley of Oregon, who was denied entry earlier this month to children's shelter, said: 'Those kids inside who have been separated from their parents are already being traumatized.'
'It doesn't matter whether the floor is swept and the bedsheets tucked in tight,' he added. 
In Texas' Rio Grande Valley, the busiest corridor for people trying to enter the US, Border Patrol officials argue that they have to crack down on migrants and separate adults from children as a deterrent to others.


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Democratic lawmakers (including Reps Jerrold Nadler, center, and Carolyn Maloney, second frim right) tried to gain access to an ICE facility in Elizabeth, New Jersey on Sunday where children have been detained


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Reps Albio Spires (left) and Bill Pascrell (right) try to gain access to the ICE detention facility
'When you exempt a group of people from the law ... that creates a draw,' said Manuel Padilla, the Border Patrol's chief agent here. 'That creates the trends right here.'
Agents running the holding facility - generally known as 'Ursula' for the name of the street it's on - said everyone detained is given adequate food, access to showers and laundered clothes, and medical care. 
People are supposed to move through the facility quickly. Under US law, children are required to be turned over within three days to shelters funded by the Department of Health and Human Services.
Padilla said agents in the Rio Grande Valley have allowed families with children under the age of five to stay together in most cases.
Democratic lawmakers joined hundreds of protesters outside an immigration detention facility in New Jersey on Sunday for a Father's Day demonstration against the Trump administration's practice of separating children from their parents.
'This must not be who we are as a nation,' said Representative Jerrold Nadler, one of seven members of Congress from New York and New Jersey who met with five detainees inside the facility, including three who said they had young relatives removed from their care after seeking asylum at the border.
The lawmakers in Elizabeth waited about 90 minutes to gain access to the detention facility, which is operated for the US government by a private contractor. 


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Trump's 'zero tolerance' policy generally leads to children being separated from their parents. The image above which was released on Sunday shows a child eating at an unaccompanied alien children program shelter in Brownsville, Texas


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Democrats in the US House of Representatives will introduce legislation this week aimed at stopping separations, mirroring a similar Senate bill sponsored by Democrat Dianne Feinstein. Children are pictured at the detention center in Brownsville 
In South Texas on Sunday, several Democratic lawmakers, including Senator Jeff Merkley, toured detention facilities to call attention to the policy, while Representative Beto O'Rourke, who is running for the US Senate in Texas, said he would march with protesters to the border.
'This is inhumane,' O'Rourke told CNN. 'I'd like to say it's un-American, but it's happening right now in America.'
Some moderate Republicans have also called on Trump to stop the separations. 
Senators Susan Collins and Jeff Flake wrote to White House officials on Saturday seeking more information on the policy.
'It is inconsistent with our American values to separate these children from their parents,' Collins said on CBS' Face the Nation on Sunday.
A spokeswoman for Melania Trump told CNN on Sunday that the first lady 'hates to see children separated from their families' and hopes lawmakers from both parties can agree on immigration reform, in what was a rare public statement on a policy issue from the president's wife. 
Her 'Be Best' platform, unveiled in May, is dedicated to children's well-being.
Democrats in the US House of Representatives will introduce legislation this week aimed at stopping separations, mirroring a similar Senate bill sponsored by Democrat Dianne Feinstein. 
But neither bill has much hope of securing enough support in the Republican-controlled Congress, let alone surviving Trump's veto pen.

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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by party animal - not! on Mon 18 Jun 2018, 17:01

Very true, Donnamarie - and is the present First Lady part of the 'compassionate' strategy?

For some reason Ms Nielsen does not strike me as the mothering sort - does she have children?

Loving Lysa Hayland Heslov's twitter on this - and many other things

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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by LizzyNY on Mon 18 Jun 2018, 17:53

Trump blaming the Democrats for this disaster is like a teenager wrecking the family car and blaming his father for buying it. It doesn't matter at this point who created the law. He's the one abusing it.

If the Dems promised to build his stupid wall he could make this go away tomorrow. HE could - not the Democrats - HIM. With one stroke of the pen (or in his case, one tweet) he could end this - just like he can without the Dems participation. He won't because he wants his damn wall above all else. We need to build a wall around him!
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Re: The Serious Side - part 5

Post by annemarie on Mon 18 Jun 2018, 22:08

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/mostread/article-5855123/US-lawmakers-want-end-evil-migrant-family-separations.html

[size=34]'Not on my watch!' Trump says the 'United States will not be a migrant camp and it will not be a refugee holding facility' while defending administration's illegal immigration policies[/size]

  • White House says Democrats are exploiting migrant families 

  • They are the ones using children as 'pawns' in a raging illegal immigration debate, the president and his spokespersons argued on Monday

  • A 'zero-tolerance' border security policy implemented by the Trump's administration sparked new outrage on Father's Day

  • After touring a center housing about 1,500 immigrant children, Dem. Sen. Jeff Merkley said 'hurting kids to get legislative leverage is unacceptable. It is evil'

  • Government said Friday that during one recent six-week period more than 2,000 minors were separated from their parents or adult guardians

  • DHS is claiming a rampant increase of 315 percent in fraudulent cases as partial justification for its polices

  • Trump said at Monday event that he's taking a hardline approach because he doesn't want the United States to end up like Europe


By FRANCESCA CHAMBERS, WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 22:08 EDT, 17 June 2018 | UPDATED: 16:58 EDT, 18 June 2018

    


President Trump said Monday that he's implementing strict immigration policies because he doesn't want the United States to end up like Europe.   
'The United States will not be a migrant camp and it will not be a refugee holding facility. Won't be,' he charged in fiery remarks at a White House event.
'You look at what's happening in Europe. You look at what's happening in other places. We can't allow that to happen to the United States. Not on my watch.'

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President Trump said Monday that he's implementing strict immigration policies because he doesn't want the United States to end up like Europe


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Trump suggested the United States' could bolster its credentials as leader of the free world by passing merit-based immigration laws that put a premium on high-skilled workers and lock down America's porous borders



'The United States will not be a migrant camp and it will not be a refugee holding facility. Won't be,' he charged  later in fiery remarks at a White House event.
The president delved without warning into a heated argument over immigration that his administration has been waging with Democrats at a signing ceremony for his space policy initiative.

'Immigration is the fault [of Democrats], and all of the problems that we're having, 'cause we cannot get them to sign legislation. We cannot get them even to the negotiating table. And I say it's very strongly the Democrats' fault,' he said at the East Room event. 'They're obstructionists, and they are obstructing.'
The president pinned the blame for family separation on the opposing party, which he said is refusing to work with Republicans in Congress to pass new rules to govern the nation's immigration system.
'If the Democrats would sit down, instead of obstructing, we could have something done very quickly - good for the children, good for the country good for the world,' he asserted. 'It could take place quickly. We could have an immigration bill. We could have child separation [ended].' 
Instead, the president contended, 'We're stuck with these horrible laws. They're horrible laws. What's happening is so sad. Is so sad. And it can be taken care of quickly, beautifully, and we'll have safety. 
'This could really be something very special. It could be something. Maybe even for the world to watch.  Just like they're watching our great economy, how it's soaring, they could watch this.'
Trump suggested the United States' could bolster its credentials as leader of the free world by passing merit-based immigration laws that put a premium on high-skilled workers and lock down America's porous borders.
'We have the worst immigration laws in the entire world. Nobody has such sad, such bad, and actually in many cases such horrible and tough. You see about child separation. You see what's going on there,' he said, bringing up a policy Democrats have been hammering his administration for adopting.
'But just remember, a country without borders, is not a country at all,' Trump said as justification. 'We have to take care of our people. You take a look at the death and the destruction that's been caused by people coming into this country without going through a process.'
The president conflated the diversity visa lottery that awards entry to vetted applicants at random with people who he said 'snuck across' the border to enter the country unlawfully.
'They could be murderers and thieves and so much else,' he asserted. 'So we want a safe country, and it starts with the borders, and that's the way it is.'
As the applause in the room died down, the president said, before returning to the topic at hand, that Democrats have but one choice to end the family separation: join Republicans in passing legislation that restructures the immigration system the way he's demanding.
'Everybody wants to do it. We want to do it more than they do,' he said of immigration reform. [If they come to the table, instead of playing politics, we can do it very, very quickly.'  


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The president's pitch: ''This could really be something very special. It could be something. Maybe even for the world to watch. Just like they're watching our great economy, how it's soaring, they could watch this'


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A view of inside U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) detention facility shows detainees inside fenced areas at Rio Grande Valley Centralized Processing Center in Rio Grande City, Texas, U.S., June 17, 2018. Picture taken on June 17, 2018


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Immigrants wait to head to a Catholic Charities relief center after being dropped off at a bus station shortly after release from detention through "catch and release" immigration policy on June 17, 2018 in McAllen, Texas. The man said he was separated from his son while in detention. "Catch and release" is a protocol under which people detained by US authorities as unlawful immigrants can be released while they wait for a hearing




The White House spent most of Monday sparring with Democrats who have been accusing the Trump administration of exploiting migrant families.
Each side condemned the other for using children as 'pawns' in a raging illegal immigration debate.
President Trump said Monday, as he attempted to gain the upper hand, that children are 'being used by some of the worst criminals on earth as a means to enter our country.'
Trump said in tweets that he'd also like to know where Democratic outrage is for American families who are being permanently separated by murderous, illegal immigrant gangsters.
'Why don’t the Democrats give us the votes to fix the world’s worst immigration laws? Where is the outcry for the killings and crime being caused by gangs and thugs, including MS-13, coming into our country illegally?' he said in a Monday morning rant. 
A rotating cast of Trump administration officials appeared on national news networks to buttress the president's arguments and assail Democrats using family separation as a cudgel against the Republicans' in their war over illegal immigration.
Hogan Gidley, a deputy spokesman for the president, appeared on Fox News and asserted that Democrats are 'playing politics with people's lives. They're doing it on the backs of children. It's absolutely grotesque.' 
'All they want to do is go down and grandstand and try to use this to political gain to try and get reelected in a few years, and it's grotesque,' he told reporters as he walked back inside the White House to his office. 'We can fix it right now, we can protect our citizens, but more important protect all the children around the world who are trying to come here.' 
The Trump spokesman claimed that migrant families 'separate themselves a lot of times,' sending their children with coyotes promising to bring them across the border for a hefty price.
'It's a deplorable situation, we've gotta fix it. And Congress could do it tomorrow, if you close the loopholes, the situation's solved,' Gidley stated. 



The president delved without warning into a heated argument over immigration that his administration has been waging with Democrats at a signing ceremony for his space policy initiative
White House Director of Strategic of Communications Mercede Schlapp said on Fox that Democrats are 'using children as political pawns' and are essentially 'advocating for the smugglers who are bringing these children over' the border.
'We have our hands tied and the smugglers have the advantage,' she said, insisting that MS-13 gang members are bringing over small children as leverage.
Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen also claimed Monday that the crisis of illegal immigrant children being housed separately from the adults who bring them across the border is, in part, fueled by men and women making fraudulent asylum claims with children who aren't theirs.
'From October 2017 to this February, we have seen a staggering 315 per cent increase in illegal aliens fraudulently using children to pose as family units to gain entry into the country,' she told the annual National Association of Sheriffs meeting in New Orleans.
'This must stop. All this does is put the children at risk,' the DHS chief added. 'We do not have the luxury of pretending that all individuals coming to this country as a family unit are in fact a family.'
'We have to do our job. We will not apologize for doing our job.'  
A DHS official told DailyMail.com that in the first five months of fiscal year 2018, DHS found 191 cases of fraud compared to 46 cases in all of fiscal year 2017. 
Before the administration's zero tolerance policy, the official explained, traffickers knew that by bringing over a child they were likely to be released directly into the country and began taking advantage of the system.


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The increase in fraudulent cases, by the government's numbers, was steep - but it counted for relatively small portion of immigrant children entering the country illegally with adults over the same time period.
DHS said that the roughly 1,800 separations from guardians or parents occurred from October through February. Fraudulent cases, therefore, accounted for roughly 11 percent of those separations.
The 'zero-tolerance' border security policy adopted in April by the Trump administration was at the center of a flare up on Sunday in the U.S. as Democrats took aim at Republicans celebrating Father's Day by sharing photos of their families on the Internet.
Democratic lawmakers on Sunday said that they would fight the 'evil' separation of children from their parents at the border while accusing the Trump administration of 'using the grief, the tears, the pain of these kids as mortar to build their wall.' 
'They call it "zero tolerance," but a better name for it is zero humanity, and there's zero logic to this policy,' Democratic Sen. Jeff Merkley said during a trip to the Mexican border.
Rep. Adam Schiff told NBC, 'It's an effort to extort a bill to their liking in the Congress. 
'It's, I think, deeply unethical, and by the President’s making these provable falsehoods about what’s required, the party adopting that has become, the GOP has become the party of lies,' the Democratic congressman stated.
The Trump administration says that 'open border' policies have led to a surge in illegal immigration that has forced the administration to treat all migrants unlawfully crossing the Untied States' southern border as criminals. 
'It is a crime to enter this country illegally. So if [Democrats] don’t like that law, they should change it,' Kellyanne Conway, counselor to the president, charged on Meet the Press on Sunday. 'Do you want the child in jail? As opposed to a facility?'    






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Immigrants are dropped off at a bus station shortly after being released from detention through "catch and release" immigration policy on June 17, 2018 in McAllen, Texas
Conway said that President Trump wants to double the number of family detention centers as part of his 70-point immigration plan that Congress has not passed, in order to keep more families together. 
Gidley on Monday charged, 'There is a separation that occurs because the law exists that way. It is a farce to believe you can keep them together. ... Democrats say you can't detain them. So if you can't detain them, you can't deport them, you have to release them into the interior of the country. It's a complete false choice but it can be so simply if would close these loopholes.'
The White House spokesman forcefully argued that the government has a responsibility to detain undocumented immigrants in order to cut down on crime. 
'And I understand the Democrats are upset about temporary separation of families who come here illegally, ' he acknowledged. 'Where is the outcry for the permanent separation when one of these people come to the country, commit a crime, kill an American citizen either with their own hand or via drugs they distribute, no one comes to their defense?'
'The permanent separation is the biggest abomination, and no Democrat's coming out decrying that at all,' Gidley charged on Fox.
Backing his spokesman up on Twitter, the president demanded that Democrats 'CHANGE THE LAWS!' to cut down on the unlawful border traffic driving the administration's family separation policy.
'It is the Democrats fault for being weak and ineffective with Boarder Security and Crime. Tell them to start thinking about the people devastated by Crime coming from illegal immigration. Change the laws!' he tweeted on Monday morning.
Trump said that 'children are being used by some of the worst criminals on earth as a means to enter our country.'
'Has anyone been looking at the Crime taking place south of the border. It is historic, with some countries the most dangerous places in the world. Not going to happen in the U.S.'
The president on Sunday evening called on Democrats to 'get together with their Republican counterparts and work something out on Border Security & Safety.'
'Don’t wait until after the election because you are going to lose!' he said, needling the opposing party.  
Democratic lawmakers touring border facilitates on Sunday said that the Trump administration was behaving immorally and unethically in order to get the president's desired changes to border security.
'It's completely unacceptable under any moral code or under any religious tradition to injure children, inflict trauma on them in order to send some political message to adults somewhere overseas,' Merkely said after stopping by a facility housing 1,500 immigrant children.
Merkley accused Republicans of 'hurting kids to get legislative leverage is unacceptable. It is evil.'
Texas Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee said Trump 'is not telling the truth' about the law as written.
'There is no law, there is no policy that has allowed him to snatch children away from their families,' she said. 'I can assure you we'll be fighting to the end to stop this ugly, vile program that is harming children and creating massive child abuse.'  
Democratic Rep. David Cicilline said the policy was 'undermining the founding values of this country.'
'We saw the fear in the eyes of these children who are wondering when they will see their parent ever again. It's a disgrace, it's shameful and it's un-American,' he said.


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On Friday, the Trump administration said that a spike in illegal immigration has led to more than 2,000 minors being separated from their parents or guardians in the last six weeks.
The admission kept the already-controversial family separation debate front and center heading into the work week.
'The pace of separations has increased—from nearly 50 to nearly 70 per day—despite widespread opposition throughout America. The White House appears deaf to the wellspring of opposition and deep concern about the welfare of children,' Sen. Dianne Feinstein said in a Monday statement.
Republicans were planning to vote on two pieces of legislation that would overhaul immigration in the House of Representatives following a visit to Capitol Hill from president on Tuesday. 
Gidley indicated to reporters at the White House on Monday that a bipartisan group of lawmakers could also be invited to the White House for a conversation on illegal immigration and how to fix a system both sides say is broken. 
Even the president's wife entered into the political fray on Sunday.
'Mrs. Trump hates to see children separated from their families and hopes both sides of the aisle can finally come together to achieve successful immigration reform,' her spokeswoman Stephanie Grisham said.
'She believes we need to be a country that follows all laws, but also a country that governs with heart.'
Former First Lady Laura Bush, wife to ex-Republican president George W. Bush, also chimed in.
'I live in a border state. I appreciate the need to enforce and protect our international boundaries, but this zero-tolerance policy is cruel. It is immoral. And it breaks my heart, ' she wrote in the Washington Post.
Bill Clinton, an ex-Democratic president, hit the Trump administration, as well, in a Father's Day tweet that was seconded by his wife, 2016 Democratic nominee for president Hillary Clinton.
'These children should not be a negotiating tool. And reuniting them with their families would reaffirm America's belief in & support for all parents who love their children,' he tweeted.

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Post by carolhathaway on Tue 19 Jun 2018, 06:50

Hs's absolutely right: Immigration is the fault of Democrats. If you don't he's not talking about the members and politicians of the political party but about all of us who live in democratic countries and are run by democratically (well, sort of in some countries) elected politicians, he's right.
And it was the fault of democratically elected administrations who allowed Trump's ancestors to enter the States although his grandfather was a criminal.

But I'd definetely like to know why he's attacking Europe on behalf of the refugees's crisis. Yes, Germany and other European countries have changed, some changes were good, others wrren't. But one of the main reasons why these people had to flee from their native countries and regions, are the US politics who are trying to establish supporters of the US politics in various regions of the world. Concerning the Middle east, they are coming to Europe, concerning to Middle and South America, they are coming to the States. And Trump doesn't stop this aggressive sort of politics. What does he thinks happens when he's attacking Yemen, Iraq and Syria? People are running away to Europe. What happens when he's proceeding his 'Amerixa first' politics vs countries south of the US border and people can't feed their families anymore? They'll try everything to enter a country where they see a chance.
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Post by annemarie on Tue 19 Jun 2018, 10:36

I think the attacks on Europe are his way of saying see they are doing this wrong , I am right. He feeds his ego any way he can. 

It was brought too my attention why he may be so gung ho on that wall. He wants his friends or hell maybe a company he owns to do the building and make the money. 

Just like with the bush war , their friends did the rebuilding.

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Post by party animal - not! on Tue 19 Jun 2018, 11:17

He'll change his tune when he's got enough contracts for the Trump organisation/the stock market crashes, the latter being the reason he was voted in by Republicans who were simply looking to make money themselves.

Europe, Carol: Well, Brexit was voted for when people started to notice the ethnic balance in their home towns radically changing in some way, but more importantly when the politicians in the EU would come home in their smart suits and told voters who hadn't found work for years in their constituencies to vote remain. They simply saw it as a gravy train and very likely didn't look at Article 50 to see what was involved.

And unfortunately another scenario is playing out across Europe too. For those refugees (and there are many) who landed in Italy and Greece where they were registered and then made it north to get work are facing the harsh reality that once they are out of work they are then sent back to the place they first registered. I've heard this story from both German and Italian friends for a while now and it certainly explains a lot about the situation (and voting) in many of these countries. I'm not sure it can be put down to that one word 'populism'.

And then you have the economic migrants - looking for a better life, but not necessarily refugees.........

The US - and Trump's reaction - is wholly different. But it clearly appeals to his base.

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