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Post by Donnamarie on Sat 28 Oct 2017, 02:35

This is really interesting.  Did something unexpected come up or cancelled because the reviews are so bad?


http://www.hollywood.com/general/u-k-suburbicon-premiere-cancelled-because-george-clooney-cant-make-it-60701293/


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Post by party animal - not! on Sat 28 Oct 2017, 03:39

Mm, tricky if it's that - apparently the Friday figures aren't great, but can he be seen to be miffed about it? Paris premiere next week too..........

Meanwhile in Augusta today according to the pub Letterman has been visiting for Netflix.........

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Post by carolhathaway on Sat 28 Oct 2017, 10:17

It could be anything - maybe Nick isn't well again...
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Post by melbert on Sat 28 Oct 2017, 11:56

I think that it has to do with his failing reviews.
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Post by party animal - not! on Sat 28 Oct 2017, 13:52

Maybe. Let's see if the Paris one on November 3rd is cancelled too. Might be strategic becos 'Jigsaw' is pulling so many in.

Also wondered if they were heading back across the pond en famille too...........

Film actually released in the UK until November 27, and France early December

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Post by fava on Sat 28 Oct 2017, 13:56

Don't know why-- but he has really staked a lot on this I think in terms of it being the beginning of a turn away from acting and to directing.

I agree with someone on the reviews thread (Lizzy maybe--sorry I can't remember who) that the writing may be part of the problem.  I wish he would try directing a few things by a great screenwriter instead of trying to write the project himself.

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Post by Way2Old4Dis on Sat 28 Oct 2017, 14:33

I didn't read the article, but...

Premieres aren't the director's call. That's the studio. It's the fancy part of distribution and marketing. And they're generally built on the star(s) of the movie, not the availability of the director. There are exceptions, of course, like when the director is a bigger attraction/name than the actor(s).

But generally, directors don't get to schedule or cancel the premiere, and studios don't cancel a premiere because the director won't be there.

A lot of work goes into those things. A lot of people make commitments and deals and arrangements. For one to be called off is a monumental decision.

Back with the release of 'Mr. & Mrs. Smith,' Angelina Jolie announced she wouldn't be going to one of the premieres (basically because Jennifer Aniston would be there with Brad Pitt). Yet it still happened. The show goes on.

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Post by annemarie on Sat 28 Oct 2017, 15:15

On Nov. 4 the Rosemary Clooney musical opens , he could have flown to London and been back for that though.

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Post by Doug Ross on Sat 28 Oct 2017, 15:19

Is it possible that, because George and Matt (he has a family emergency) weren't available, they just decided to cancel the premiere? It would have been Julianne only.

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Post by annemarie on Sat 28 Oct 2017, 16:01

Matt canceled a Friday night event because his father is ill.

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Post by Doug Ross on Sat 28 Oct 2017, 16:32

Yes, that's why I think he wouldn't have been able to attend an eventually premiere in UK.

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Post by PigPen on Sat 28 Oct 2017, 16:37

Way2Old4Dis wrote:I didn't read the article, but...

Premieres aren't the director's call. That's the studio. It's the fancy part of distribution and marketing. And they're generally built on the star(s) of the movie, not the availability of the director. There are exceptions, of course, like when the director is a bigger attraction/name than the actor(s).

But generally, directors don't get to schedule or cancel the premiere, and studios don't cancel a premiere because the director won't be there.

A lot of work goes into those things. A lot of people make commitments and deals and arrangements. For one to be called off is a monumental decision.

Back with the release of 'Mr. & Mrs. Smith,' Angelina Jolie announced she wouldn't be going to one of the premieres (basically because Jennifer Aniston would be there with Brad Pitt). Yet it still happened. The show goes on.
Not being sarcastic... would the studio cancel because of the less than stellar reviews?

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Post by annemarie on Sat 28 Oct 2017, 16:59

Neither Matt or Julianne were supposed to be in London just George, Matt and Julianne were filming and couldn't go to london it says so in the article above.

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Post by Way2Old4Dis on Sat 28 Oct 2017, 17:13

Re: PigPen

It's possible, but not likely. And keep in mind that this is a UK event. The critics and audiences there pride themselves on having a keener cinematic sense than Americans. This would have been a chance to get a different skew on the reviews.

I didn't know MattD had cancelled events because of his father's illness. With both Damon and George (for whatever reason) out, it does kind of deflate the impact of the premiere.

I hope George isn't depressed or feeling defeated because of the reviews. If he made the movie he wanted to make and is proud of the project, then he should just get out there and take whatever comes. It's art. Its reception is out of the creator's control.

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Post by Doug Ross on Sat 28 Oct 2017, 18:03

annemarie wrote:Neither Matt or Julianne were supposed to be in London just George, Matt and Julianne were filming and couldn't go to london it says so in the article above.

Oh thanks, annemarie. I hadn't read that part of the article.

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Post by media savvy on Sat 28 Oct 2017, 23:43

are you guys serious?  Suburbicon is getting absolutely skewered by the press - and George's failures (box office/artistic) as a director are all being publicly discussed.  As are his smug political views "There's not going to be a President Trump"

when was the last time he had a bone fide hit?

This is a man who is sensitive to criticism, who wants to be liked and admired.   Remember the SONY emails - he was devastated by The Monuments Men and this is even worse because he has been grandstanding about it so much more.  

Imagine what it is like to put your heart and soul into something and it doesn't achieve what you expect?  It's a terrible thing to experience and GC is living it in the glare of publicity.

He has been dragged into the Wienstein scandal and has found himself of very shaky ground.  To admit you have socialised, travelled and worked with someone for a number of decades and then say you never saw that behaviour - just  vaguely heard about it - it simply is not believable.  To try and score points by saying Amal has been sexually harassed was a misstep - why is he her mouthpiece?  Let her tell her own story.  Let women own their own truth.  His body language in the interview with Matt Damon showed a man trying to keep up a facade and falling apart inside.  Now, he is demanding to know who knew about HW?  Trying to blame staff and journalists who knew and did nothing.  I have worked in a bullying environment, trust me, speaking out is not an option - because you are suffering from being bullied yourself.  George knew enough to speak out, enough to suspect and had enough power to say something without losing his house and money....  HE DID NOT.

As for the film how tone deaf can you be?  There is no point bringing he African American actors (who barely have a line of dialogue) to the premieres at the point.  The proof of his lack of understanding is on the screen and THIS is what the critics have called him out on.

Can't we all just understand he is a human being, and is behaving in a human way.  He is humiliated, upset and hurt.   His wife gets most of the attention in public and he has been used to having the limelight for decades.  

This is why he didn't go to the Casamingos party, this is why Matt Damon didn't go pick up his award, and this is why George won't go to London.

Putting GC on a pedestal is just creating more pressure for him.   These people have the same flaws and set backs as everyone on this blog

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Post by Way2Old4Dis on Sun 29 Oct 2017, 00:48

One, I don't think George is as thin-skinned as you make him out to be. Two, I don't think his fingerprints are all over the Weinstein scandal. And finally, 'Suburbicon' is probably tracking about as expected, even if the reviews aren't that great.

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Post by media savvy on Sun 29 Oct 2017, 01:12

you are simply refusing to face reality

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Post by Way2Old4Dis on Sun 29 Oct 2017, 01:20

Never been a problem of mine before, but okay.

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Post by Sevens on Sun 29 Oct 2017, 03:17

I think that Weinstein scandal really hurt the publicity of the film Matt is being blamed even more than George does and Matt is actually the true star power here.
WTF Bad Luck here? Hope they can get over all this mess, the film falling reviews/boxoffice, the ridiculous Harvey trouble and some personal life issues and move on.
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Post by What Would He Say on Sun 29 Oct 2017, 11:11

media savvy wrote:are you guys serious?  Suburbicon is getting absolutely skewered by the press - and George's failures (box office/artistic) as a director are all being publicly discussed.  As are his smug political views "There's not going to be a President Trump"

when was the last time he had a bone fide hit?

This is a man who is sensitive to criticism, who wants to be liked and admired.   Remember the SONY emails - he was devastated by The Monuments Men and this is even worse because he has been grandstanding about it so much more.  

Imagine what it is like to put your heart and soul into something and it doesn't achieve what you expect?  It's a terrible thing to experience and GC is living it in the glare of publicity.

He has been dragged into the Wienstein scandal and has found himself of very shaky ground.  To admit you have socialised, travelled and worked with someone for a number of decades and then say you never saw that behaviour - just  vaguely heard about it - it simply is not believable.  To try and score points by saying Amal has been sexually harassed was a misstep - why is he her mouthpiece?  Let her tell her own story.  Let women own their own truth.  His body language in the interview with Matt Damon showed a man trying to keep up a facade and falling apart inside.  Now, he is demanding to know who knew about HW?  Trying to blame staff and journalists who knew and did nothing.  I have worked in a bullying environment, trust me, speaking out is not an option - because you are suffering from being bullied yourself.  George knew enough to speak out, enough to suspect and had enough power to say something without losing his house and money....  HE DID NOT.

As for the film how tone deaf can you be?  There is no point bringing he African American actors (who barely have a line of dialogue) to the premieres at the point.  The proof of his lack of understanding is on the screen and THIS is what the critics have called him out on.

Can't we all just understand he is a human being, and is behaving in a human way.  He is humiliated, upset and hurt.   His wife gets most of the attention in public and he has been used to having the limelight for decades.  

This is why he didn't go to the Casamingos party, this is why Matt Damon didn't go pick up his award, and this is why George won't go to London.

Putting GC on a pedestal is just creating more pressure for him.   These people have the same flaws and set backs as everyone on this blog



VERY WELL PUT.....I don’t agree 100% but 98% is on the money, as far as I am concerned.  

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Post by What Would He Say on Sun 29 Oct 2017, 11:26

Look last week I posted Harvey shit was going to hit-on George’s movie.... I dare say any movie that has a Hollywood sheen to it will be equally affected.... it doesn’t help that here I am a committed GC fan, who has trouble writing (virus from North West Frontier) and as much as I adore my darling boy I can’t spell IT and am reluctant to pronounce it or speak IT... Subbberrbbwhatsit.......


I used to think Amal was a jinx.... funny thing happened this morning I suddenly thought may be the jinx is me.... When I came here he was riding high could do no wrong King of Hollywood.... the last Movie Star....that all started to implode pretty quick after my arrival..... To be honest the same has happened in my world to.... we share a common trajectory... a common “tragedy” my spell check kept saying.... my phone is wise beyond its years......

The world has been on a strange path over the last 4 years.... GC and I are not alone.....

Tomorrow is another day.... thank you Scarlet....


And the darkest hour is just before dawn..... Thank you Mamas and Papas.....
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Post by annemarie on Sun 29 Oct 2017, 12:52

I don't believe in jinx's the fact is life does what it will, we all have bad moments and things go wrong .

I know we as humans think we can control everything but in reality to me any way we can't.

Maybe, George's time as a movie star is over nothing in this life lasts forever, he knows this, sometimes 

it takes something drastic to make people see what they need to change. Maybe, he needs to stick to directing

and leave the writing to someone else, or not try to do both in the same movie. If that is actually the problem 

with the movie. Some will like the movie some won't that happens with all movies.

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Post by Way2Old4Dis on Sun 29 Oct 2017, 17:53

I think the artistic expectations were higher than the business ones. They'll be lucky to reach $5M domestic by the end of the weekend, IMO, but international performance will be better, and it will have decent aftermarket revenue. Nobody's going to go broke, but definitely some egos are bruised.

Damon has 'Downsizing' coming up. It's also gotten promising early buzz, but the premise, to me, is one of those that's easy to screw up in execution, even by Alexander Payne. Julianne Moore is one of those actors who never seems to fall out of favor; she brings her 'A' game no matter what she's in.

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Post by party animal - not! on Sun 29 Oct 2017, 18:19

Well, the top four or five on BoxOfficeMojo are all Halloween/Scary/Horror based, followed by Blade Runner, also thought to be performing under expectations. Suburbicon comes in at 9.

Maybe the date choice wasn't great either.......

Yep, Julianne Moore is great, both on the screen and in interview on all matters pertinent to the moment.......

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Post by Way2Old4Dis on Sun 29 Oct 2017, 19:25

The release date was probably very deliberate. The niche movies (horror and sci-fi) would have their built-in audiences, and 'Suburbicon' would pick up the cinemaphiles. They just didn't get enough of them.

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Post by Katarzyna on Mon 30 Oct 2017, 12:01

I think the movie failed because George tried to shove his politics down people's throats again by adding in the black African American storyline where it wasn't in the original then being so tone deaf he didn't even bother developing it. It was tokenism. The critics have called him out on it.

George has become very out of touch and wants to hit people over the head with his politics. People don't want that.

Amal has been the curse of death for his career, everything went downhill for George's  career when he hooked up with her. I also think George needs to get away from Grant Heslov. They are just making flop after flop together they are a poor partnership. 

George and Matt Damon were also hurt by the Weinstein scandal. I think both of them knew full well Harvey was operating a casting couch. The public is angry and saw through George and Matts lies.

We know from the Sony emails that George would be devastated right now. Who will give George money to direct again? Or even him and Grant money to produce again? 

Still George can use the Tequila money to finance his own movies I guess. Wonder if this will put a strain on his marriage. Amal seems to just want to go out and get photographed in her outfits even at a time like this.  She doesn't seem to be interested in supporting him. All she cares about is getting her picture in the papers in some designer outfit. If this causes George to open his eyes to what she really is, maybe this will be a good thing.

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Post by party animal - not! on Mon 30 Oct 2017, 12:23

Wow.

Anything positive to say?

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Post by Katarzyna on Mon 30 Oct 2017, 12:26

media savvy wrote:are you guys serious?  Suburbicon is getting absolutely skewered by the press - and George's failures (box office/artistic) as a director are all being publicly discussed.  As are his smug political views "There's not going to be a President Trump"

when was the last time he had a bone fide hit?

This is a man who is sensitive to criticism, who wants to be liked and admired.   Remember the SONY emails - he was devastated by The Monuments Men and this is even worse because he has been grandstanding about it so much more.  

Imagine what it is like to put your heart and soul into something and it doesn't achieve what you expect?  It's a terrible thing to experience and GC is living it in the glare of publicity.

He has been dragged into the Wienstein scandal and has found himself of very shaky ground.  To admit you have socialised, travelled and worked with someone for a number of decades and then say you never saw that behaviour - just  vaguely heard about it - it simply is not believable.  To try and score points by saying Amal has been sexually harassed was a misstep - why is he her mouthpiece?  Let her tell her own story.  Let women own their own truth.  His body language in the interview with Matt Damon showed a man trying to keep up a facade and falling apart inside.  Now, he is demanding to know who knew about HW?  Trying to blame staff and journalists who knew and did nothing.  I have worked in a bullying environment, trust me, speaking out is not an option - because you are suffering from being bullied yourself.  George knew enough to speak out, enough to suspect and had enough power to say something without losing his house and money....  HE DID NOT.

As for the film how tone deaf can you be?  There is no point bringing he African American actors (who barely have a line of dialogue) to the premieres at the point.  The proof of his lack of understanding is on the screen and THIS is what the critics have called him out on.

Can't we all just understand he is a human being, and is behaving in a human way.  He is humiliated, upset and hurt. 
I agree with everything you say. I think Stan came up with a lot of these PR strategies and they flopped.

Especially the way George tried to bring Amal into it and then make it about other industries. Trying to sell his wife, who is glamorous as a result of spending tons of his money on designer clothes, makeup artists and hairdressers but NOT beautiful, as someone men are constantly hitting on. I don't think so George. Stop overselling her. 

Sorry George other industries don't conduct business in hotel rooms and when women are sexually assaulted they report it to the police because a man like Harvey Weinstein cannot make or break your career because they can rely on men like Matt Damon, George Clooney and Ben Affleck to profiteer and turn a blind eye to what's happening. 

George's other biggest misstep was when he said, I demand to know who knew. You did George was the collective response. And then George blamed the media when Matt had killed the story years earlier. A disaster of a film promotion. 

I think they will cancel the French premiere as well unless Amal goes ballistic because she wanted to debut a new dress. I could see her being furious if she doesn't get the opportunity to go on the red carpet again. If George dares go to France all they will ask him about is Weinstein. The story is massive there.

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Post by carolhathaway on Mon 30 Oct 2017, 13:45

I've read French newspapers as well, and George isn't blamed in any of those magazines or websites. He's one of those who are mentioned because he spoke out in the scandal but haven't read anything negative about him concerning the Weinstein scandal. The medias certainly want to know about it, but unless any news come up, I don't see it to be the main focus of interviews with George.
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Post by Donnamarie on Mon 30 Oct 2017, 17:59

There are some pretty outrageous assertions being made here without facts to back most of them up.
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Post by LizzyNY on Tue 31 Oct 2017, 12:44

Just a note to Katarzyna:
      1.Many businesses conduct meetings in hotel rooms - especially at conventions or when one of the parties is from out of town.
      2. Very often women who are sexually assaulted do not report it - sometimes from fear of repercussions at work, sometimes out of embarrassment.
      3. Because predators usually strike in a one-on-one situation it is possible for even those people who work with them on a frequent basis to be unaware of the extent of their behavior. Matt said he knew Weinstein made a pass at Gwynneth Paltrow and it had been dealt with. What else would you have had him do? Men make unwanted passes all the time. Are they all perverts?
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Post by What Would He Say on Mon 06 Nov 2017, 14:18

I don’t know how well these premieres were publicised, London and Paris....but I do know the excitement I felt each time I went to one..... I do know the pressure of getting there, time off work, travel and cost.... I can only  hope that nobody had gone to too much trouble.... not only me, but many ppl here have in the past made arrangements to support George .... It stands to reason many may well have gone to some trouble again.....

So I find it a little “off” that no personal apology was offered....

Sweet Baby J.... things get tougher by the day....

Buckle up George.....!
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