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Post by Donnamarie on Fri 20 Oct 2017, 21:25

annemarie wrote:All Trump had to do is apologize if what he said offended and hurt the family. He can't ever admit he was wrong .
So Kelly is a more intelligent version of Trump that is really sad.


Kelly has diminished himself further by misrepresenting a story he spoke of yesterday about Congresswoman Wilson. His accusation against Wilson regarding the words she said at a FBI building dedication in 2015 was not true. Trump, and now Kelly, made this whole situation so much worse than it had to be if, as you said, Trump had just apologized. Trump will never, ever, ever apologize for anything. He just sends his minions out to clean up his messes.
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Post by annemarie on Fri 20 Oct 2017, 22:14

Donnamarie, I read what Kelly said and what the Congresswoman said. Kelly she never mentioned funding at all.

I wonder if he will apologize for lying , I doubt it . After all he is a Trump man why would he apologize.

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Post by annemarie on Fri 20 Oct 2017, 22:15

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5002068/White-House-says-Obama-Bush-criticism-not-Trump.html

White House says Bush and Obama's stern rebukes were 'NOT directed toward President Trump'

  • Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders suggested Presidents George W. Bush and Obama weren't criticizing Trump in speeches that sounded like rebukes

  • She said the two ex-presidents weren't slamming Trump because they never said his name  

  • In speeches yesterday, both ex-presidents bemoaned the current state of American politics, including the racist undertides 

  • Bush said he worried that Americans were more prone to bigotry and to believing conspiracy theories 

  • Asked about those statements, Huckabee Sanders blamed the media  for 'pushing a lot of fabricated things right now' 


By Nikki Schwab, U.s. Political Reporter For Dailymail.com
PUBLISHED: 16:58 EDT, 20 October 2017 UPDATED: 17:08 EDT, 20 October 2017


Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders suggested Friday that because Presidents George W. Bush and President Barack Obama didn't say President Trump's name, they weren't criticizing him during speeches yesterday.
'I'm not sure of the last time they spoke, but our understanding is that those comments were not directed towards the president,' Huckabee Sanders told a reporter who had asked about Trump's relationship with Bush. 
She expanded her answer to encompass Obama as well. 
'And, in fact, when these two individuals, both past presidents, have criticized the president they have done so by name and very rarely do it without being pretty direct,' she pointed out. 'As both of them tend to be.' 
'So we'll take them at their word that their actions and comments weren't directed at the president,' Huckabee Sanders said.
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White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Friday that Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama weren't criticizing President Trump in speeches they gave yesterday, because they didn't utter his name 


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Both President Obama (left) and President George W. Bush (right) reentered the political fray yesterday, speaking about the toxic political climate and the return of divisive politics, points that looked to be a rebuke of President Donald Trump 
On Thursday, Bush and Obama were, coincidentally, both back on the political stage, with President Bush speaking to a foundation audience in New York and his Democratic successor speaking at two rallies for Democratic gubernatorial candidates in New Jersey and Virginia. 
Both men, from opposite political persuasions, talked about today's toxic political climate while preaching tolerance and togetherness as a way to climb out of the hole. 
At his George W. Bush Institute event, the former Republican leader talked of the threats to democracy abroad and here at home. 
He spoke of political discourse being 'degraded by casual cruelty.' 
Despite being the most recent GOP president before Trump took office, Bush reportedly cast a vote for Hillary Clinton, likely inspired by Trump's treatment of brother Jeb Bush, who also ran for the Republican nomination in 2016. 
Trump joyfully jabbed 'Jeb!' through those early months, tanking his candidacy by labeling the former Florida governor as 'low energy.' 
During Bush's speech yesterday, the ex-president hinted at the underlying cause of why he believed Trump's base voted for the man, suggesting the 'American dream of upward mobility' is now seemingly out of reach for those left behind by a modern economy. 
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This, Bush believed, was the root cause for the deepened discontent and sharpened political divide.   
'Bigotry seems emboldened,' Bush said. 'Our politics seem more vulnerable to conspiracy theories and outright fabrication.' 
When asked about those particular lines at the White House today, Huckabee Sander deflected the blame off of Trump, hitting the media instead.
 'I think if anybody is pushing a lot of fabricated things right now I think that would be coming from the news media and we would certainly agree with that sentiment,' Trump's spokeswoman said. 
When a reporter tried following up about the 'bigotry' charge Huckabee Sanders didn't answer, having already moved on. 
During his two appearances Thursday, for New Jersey governor candidate Philip D. Murphy and Virginia governor candidate Ralph Northam, Obama talked about old-style politics being dredged back from the dead.  
'What we can't have is the same old politics of division that we have seen so many times before that dates back centuries,' Obama said at the event for Murphy. 'Some of the politics we see now, we thought we put that to bed.' 
'That has folks looking 50 years back,' he added. 'It's the 21st century, not the 19th century, come on!' 
Trump has consistently harped on bringing back a better America from the past – hence his campaign motto, 'Make America Great Again!' – while touting policy prescriptions like building a wall to keep illegal immigrants out, banning Muslims from entering the United States and telling transgender troops they can no longer serve. 




The most political trouble Trump got himself in came in August when he suggested that 'both sides' were responsible for racial violence in Charlottesville, Virginia, when a group of white supremacists took over the town and counter-protesters showed up to reject their message. 
Both Bush and Obama entered the fray in the aftermath of Charlottesville too, issuing statements against racism and hate. 
Bush, in another nod to what Trump could have handled better, brought up these issues in New York as well.  
'Our identity as a nation – unlike many other nations – is not determined by geography or ethnicity, by soil or blood,' he said. 
The phrase 'blood and soil' had been the white supremacists chant in Charlottesville.
'This means that people of every race, religion and ethnicity can be fully and equally America,' Bush said. 'It means that bigotry or white supremacy in any form is blasphemy against the American creed,' the former commander-in-chief said to great applause.  
'And it means that the very identity of our nation depends on the passing of civic ideals to the next generation,' he said.

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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by Donnamarie on Fri 20 Oct 2017, 22:50

It was great to hear reasonable leaders speak out against Trump yesterday. It was wonderful to see Obama and Bush, and McCain earlier in the week push way back on the hateful and cruel rhetoric that is being spewed in our country. We know they were all talking about Trump. Yet none of them ever mentioned his name. There is some satisfaction in that.

Sarah Huckabee Sanders has no credibility as a spokesperson for anyone. She chose to sign a pact with devil Trump and her performances at these press briefings are simply laughable.

fava, to your comment about Kelly. I was trying to give this guy some slack because he has served our country and he lost a son in a war. And he does deserve a certain respect. But you're right ... he is a real hypocrite. His sentimental reflection on life in our country decades ago misses so much that was wrong with our country back then. And now Trump has opened up all those wounds that scar our country, picked at them and is causing chaos and trauma. Kelly isn't helping at all in keeping this guy in check. He has failed miserably.



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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by annemarie on Fri 20 Oct 2017, 23:20

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Hillary Clinton will be honored by the Women's Media Center on Thursday in New York City. (Carolyn Kaster / Associated Press)
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will be honored by the Women's Media Center, receiving the Wonder Woman honor at the Women's Media Awards in New York on Thursday.
“Hillary Clinton’s actions have inspired and protected women and men on every continent,” Gloria Steinem, co-founder of the Women’s Media Center, said in a statement Friday.
“She has battled negative forces and helped to maintain a fragile peace with her negotiating skill on behalf of this country and peace-seekers everywhere. She has handled all this with grace, grit, determination, integrity, humor and fortitude while remaining a steadfast feminist, advocate, activist, sister and tireless leader in the revolution. With this award, the Women’s Media Center declares Hillary Clinton our Wonder Woman,” Steinem added.
This is the first Wonder Woman accolade ever awarded by the group, which cited Clinton's decades of global accomplishments and public service among the reasons she was chosen for the honor.
Clinton joins Maria Hinojosa, Ashley Judd, April Ryan, María Elena Salinas and Gail Tifford as an honoree at the 2017 ceremony, which will also celebrate the 80th birthday of center co-founder Jane Fonda and the film "Hidden Figures."
The Women’s Media Center is a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization co-founded in 2005 by Fonda, Steinem and Robin Morgan to increase the visibility and power of women in media.

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Post by annemarie on Sat 21 Oct 2017, 00:58

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5002524/Georgia-lawmaker-wants-HIV-patients-QUARANTINED.html

Georgia lawmaker and wife of Trump's former health secretary wants HIV patients to be QUARANTINED to curb the rate of infections

  • Republican Rep Betty Price, who represents Roswell in Atlanta, Georgia, is the wife of Tom Price, Donald Trump's former health secretary

  • She is a trained anesthesiologist and was part of a panel on healthcare and HIV treatment on Tuesday

  • Rep Price said: 'I don't want to say the quarantine word, but I guess I just said it... what are we legally able to do'

  • Her words sparked outrage; Georgia has the fifth highest rate of new HIV diagnoses in the country


By Mia De Graaf For Dailymail.com
PUBLISHED: 18:19 EDT, 20 October 2017 UPDATED: 19:15 EDT, 20 October 2017


        

A Georgia lawmaker - who is the wife of President Trump's former health secretary Tom Price - has been slammed for suggesting that people with HIV should be quarantined to lower the spread of the virus.
Betty Price, a Republican state representative in Atlanta and a trained anesthesiologist, made the staggering claims at a videotaped hearing on Tuesday to discuss healthcare and HIV treatment.
Rep Price said: 'My thinking sometimes goes in strange directions, but before you proceed if you wouldn't mind commenting on the surveillance of partners, tracking of contacts, that sort of thing. What are we legally able to do.'
She added: 'And I don't want to say the quarantine word, but I guess I just said it. 


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Betty Price, a Republican state representative in Atlanta and a trained anesthesiologist, made the staggering suggestion that HIV patients be quarantined at a hearing on Tuesday to discuss healthcare and HIV treatment. Pictured: Rep Price (center) with her husband Tom Price (left), the former health secretary, being sworn into his role by Vice President Mike Pence in February
'Is there an ability, since I would guess that public dollars are expended heavily in prophylaxis and treatment of this condition. So we have a public interest in curtailing the spread. 
'What would you advise or are there any methods legally that we could do that would curtail the spread.'
Her words, first reported by a gay-focused website in Georgia, sparked uproar.
Georgia ranks fifth among states for new HIV diagnoses. In 2014, 50,000 Georgians were diagnosed with HIV in 2014. In 2015, the state had the highest rate of new diagnoses in the country. According to CDC figures, one in 51 Georgians will contract HIV in their lifetime.
The epidemic is particularly severe in Atlanta, which is home to more than half of the state's population.  



'Downtown Atlanta['s rate of HIV diagnoses] is as bad as Zimbabwe or Harare or Durban,' said Dr. Carlos del Rio, co-director of Emory University's Center for AIDS Research, said in 2016. 
Speaking to HIV Plus, Dazon Dixon Diallo, director of the Georgia Coalition to End HIV Criminalization, said Price's words were an indication of the attitude towards people with HIV in the South. 
'When we come into spaces like this and we hear questions around how legally far can we go to isolate people or even quarantine people, then it just lets you know that we have a real uphill battle,' Diallo told the magazine.
Jeff Graham, executive director of Georgia Equality, told STAT News: 'It's very troubling to hear comments like that.
'It shows the amount of work that still needs to happen to educate elected officials on the reality of the lives of people living with HIV. 
'I'm hoping Rep. Price would be open to sitting down, meeting with folks, hearing how those comments sound, and recognizing that's not the direction we need to go in.'

DailyMail.com has reached out to Rep Price for a comment. 
The saga comes just weeks after the CDC declared that people with HIV cannot transmit the virus to sexual partners if they have suppressed their viral load with medication.
The statement, made in September, was hailed as a breakthrough against stigma, and an incentive for people to get tested and treated. 
A person with HIV becomes 'undetectable' when treatment suppresses the virus to a level so low in their blood that it cannot be detected by measurements.
Scores of studies on more than 58,000 sex acts have shown that if a person is undetectable and stays on treatment, they cannot pass HIV on to a partner.
The strength of this association first became clear a few years ago, and gradually health officials have been acknowledging the results.

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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by carolhathaway on Sat 21 Oct 2017, 09:13

I thought we're far beyond this point...

What about sex education? About telling everybody how they can avoid infection? 

But yes, put them all together in concentration camps so they can have sex or use drugs without putting others in danger.

Hey, what do we do with HIV-positive kids? Put them in the camps as well? And what about parents with that disease? Put them in the camps as well! And they even have the choice of either giving their kids away (because, as you all know, you can get IVF by shaking hands or hugging an IVF positive person) or having them live there as well. 

Hey, I've got a brilliant idea: Why doesn't this lady fly everybody to Puerto Rico? Because, as we all know by now, 'it's an island, surrounded by water, big water, ocean water'.

Just to clarify: that's  sarcasm

Gid, I really thought we're far beyond this point! It's just bringing back memories to the 1980s and early 90s, when it was discussed hysterically if HIV positive kids are allowed to visit a kindergarden or school or if you can infect yourself by using the same glass as someone with HIV...
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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by Donnamarie on Sat 21 Oct 2017, 15:31

Ahhh, well the tweets are disturbing on their own PAN.

The fact that we have people in official positions in our country still propagating ignorance on such an important issue as HIV is just depressing. I feel like we are heading backwards to the dark ages ... in which case carolhathaway your suggestion of moving all those HIV positive people to PR would be a great idea!

We need to get a grip in our country.
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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by annemarie on Sat 21 Oct 2017, 16:02

https://nvdems.com/press/senator-dean-heller-just-voted-cut-1-trillion-medicaid-breaking-promise-nevadans/


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Nevada State Democratic Party spokesperson Stewart Boss released the following statement after Senate Republicans including Dean Heller passed a partisan budget bill that guts Medicaid without a single Democratic vote:
“Senator Heller just voted with Mitch McConnell to decimate Medicaid, Medicare, and Pell Grant funding so that Republicans can pave the way for tax cuts for the ultra-wealthy. This summer, Heller promised not to support any bill that would harm the hundreds of thousands of Nevadans who rely on traditional Medicaid and Medicaid expansion. This destructive budget is now the latest example of Senator Heller blatantly breaking his health care promises to his constituents. Senator Heller’s budget vote confirms that he is nothing more than a rubber stamp for his party bosses in Washington.”
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The Senate Budget Plan Includes Slicing More Than $1 Trillion From Medicaid Over The Next Decade. “In Congress, the annual budget resolution provides an outline of federal spending and revenues. The Senate’s blueprint, for the 2018 fiscal year that began Oct. 1, claims to achieve a balanced budget within a decade, assuming greater economic growth and using an accounting method that excludes Social Security. In order to erase projected deficits, it calls for trillions of dollars in spending cuts over the coming decade. But the cuts exist only on paper, without legislation to achieve them. Even so, Democrats sounded the alarm, warning that the aspirational cuts in the budget plan called for slicing more than $1 trillion from Medicaid and about $470 billion from Medicare over a decade.” [New York Times, 10/19/17]
The Senate Budget Plan Includes Cutting $473 Billion From Medicare Over The Next Decade. “Under Capitol Hill's byzantine budget rules, the nonbinding budget resolution is supposed to lay out a long-term fiscal framework for the government. This year's measure calls for $473 billion in cuts from Medicare over 10 years and more than $1 trillion from Medicaid. All told, Senate Republicans would cut spending by more than $5 trillion over a decade, though they don't attempt to spell out where the cuts would come from.” [AP, 10/19/17]
The Senate Budget Could Cut Pell Grant Funding By More Than $100 Billion Over A Decade. According to an analysis by the Senate Budget Committee Minority Staff, “If the Republican budget’s unspecified spending cuts are applied proportionately, the budget over the next decade: […] Slashes Pell Grant funding by more than $100 billion – a 33 percent cut, making college less affordable for more than 8 million working-class students.” [2018 Budget Analysis, Senate Budget Committee Minority Staff, 10/19/17][/size]

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Post by fava on Sat 21 Oct 2017, 16:39

Donnamarie wrote:fava, to your comment about Kelly.  I was trying to give this guy some slack because he has served our country and he lost a son in a war.  And he does deserve a certain respect.  But you're right ... he is a real hypocrite.  His sentimental reflection on life in our country decades ago misses so much that was wrong with our country back then.  And now Trump has opened up all those wounds that scar our country, picked at them and is causing chaos and trauma.  Kelly isn't helping at all in keeping this guy in check.  He has failed miserably.    



The narrative has been that he is there to "save us from Trump."  But I am starting to believe that he has the same goals--just wrapped in a more acceptable, traditional, articulate package.  But same dog whistles I am afraid.  God help us.  Mid terms and Mueller cannot come fast enough for me.

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Post by annemarie on Sat 21 Oct 2017, 18:42

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5003983/Donald-Trump-Jr-posts-bizarre-photo-father.html

Donald Trump Jr. posts bizarre photo of his father depicted as a superhero... and the Internet is mercilessly making fun of him for it

  • Social media users took delight in ridiculing President Donald Trump's oldest son on Saturday

  • Trump Jr. posted a picture of his father as a superhero resembling Superman on the cover of a fake Time Magazine issue

  • The Internet wasted little in mocking him mercilessly for it, pointing out the President's actual physical features 

  • The post was reminiscent of a controversy earlier this year concerning Time

  • A fake Time Magazine cover of Donald Trump appeared in at least five different clubs and resorts with the Trump name from Florida to Scotland


By Daniel Roth For Dailymail.com


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5003983/Donald-Trump-Jr-posts-bizarre-photo-father.html#ixzz4wAKgNLnE 
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Post by annemarie on Sat 21 Oct 2017, 18:44

All because Hillary will receive the wonder woman award. This whole lot of them are idiots he makes himself look like a damned fool on a regular basis.

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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by Donnamarie on Sat 21 Oct 2017, 18:51


annemarie, what the hell is wrong with that family? Good grief! They are all idiots.

fava, I've got to believe Mueller is building a damn good case against Trump's peeps, and hopefully Trump himself.  Hurry up already ....

Our state is voting for a new governor in November and it's likely the Democrat will win.  But the polls have been erratic so I'm holding my breath.  If the Democrat does win how much will he win by.  If he just squeaks through that will really concern me for the midterms.
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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by LizzyNY on Sat 21 Oct 2017, 19:07

Donnamarie - I don't know about you, but my inbox is constantly drowning in fund-raising emails from candidates all over the country. If they're to be believed, the races they're in are all very close and their opponents are getting massive funding from donors like the Koch brothers. I think you're right to be worried.
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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by party animal - not! on Sat 21 Oct 2017, 22:09

http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/27/news/economy/inequality-record-top-1-percent-wealth/index.html


So my conclusion is that the Trump Jr tweets and the release of the JFK tapes against National Security Council are convenient distractions to counter the above, among other things...........


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Post by annemarie on Sun 22 Oct 2017, 18:42

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5005823/Air-Force-recall-recall-1-000-retired-pilots.html

Trump signs an executive order allowing the Air Force to recall 1,000 retired military pilots to active duty to address a shortage of over 1,500

  • An executive order signed Friday is intended to address a shortage in Air Force ranks as the Trump administration steps up efforts in Afghanistan

  • At the end of the 2016 fiscal year the service was short 1,555 pilots, including 1,211 fighter pilots

  • The order overrules a law that says only 25 retired pilots can be recalled through voluntary programs to serve in any one branch

  • It expands a state of national emergency declared by President Bush after the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001


By Megan Sheets For Dailymail.com
PUBLISHED: 10:12 EDT, 22 October 2017 UPDATED: 10:12 EDT, 22 October 2017

    

President Trump signed an executive order on Friday allowing the U.S. Air Force to recall as many as 1,000 retired military pilots to active-duty service.
The order intended to address a shortage in Air Force ranks would call back only retired officers who wish to return. 
It overrules a law that says only 25 retired pilots can be recalled through voluntary programs to serve in any one branch, expanding a state of national emergency declared by President George W. Bush after the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001.
A Pentagon spokesman, Navy Commander Gary Ross, said the order was signed 'to mitigate the Air Force's acute shortage of pilots'.


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President Trump signed an executive order on Friday allowing the U.S. Air Force to recall as many as 1,000 retired military pilots to active-duty service. He is pictured above at Joint Base Andrews in Maryland in September


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Trump is pictured speaking at an event celebrating the 70th birthday if the Air Force in September. At the end of the 2016 fiscal year the service was short 1,555 pilots, including 1,211 fighter pilots
'The pilot supply shortage is a national level challenge that could have adverse effects on all aspects of both the government and commercial aviation sectors for years to come,' Ross said in a statement on Friday. 
At the end of the 2016 fiscal year the service was short 1,555 pilots, including 1,211 fighter pilots, according to Secretary of Air Force Heather Wilson. 
Addressing the shortage is part of the Trump administration's attempt to step up its Afghanistan war strategy to defeat the Taliban and terrorists. 



In August Trump unveiled the new strategy in the 16-year-old war, which includes sending additional U.S. troops to Afghanistan and increasing U.S. air support for the Afghan military. 
The Air Force expanded its aviation bonus program in August and increased incentive pay earlier this month for officers and enlisted crew members for the first time since 1999.
The military has also increasingly offered retention initiatives that focus on work-life balance and quality of life.


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Addressing the shortage is part of the Trump administration's attempt to step up its Afghanistan war strategy to defeat the Taliban and terrorists


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 The Air Force expanded its aviation bonus program in August and increased incentive pay earlier this month for officers and enlisted crew members
'We need to retain our experienced pilots and these are some examples of how we're working to do that,' Wilson said in a statement on August 25. 
'We can't afford not to compensate our talented aviators at a time when [commercial] airlines are hiring unprecedented numbers.' 
The world's commercial aviation industry will need 637,000 new pilots between 2017 and 2036, according to a Boeing forecast released in July. 
The shortage of pilots poses a serious challenge, particularly for regional airlines.
Other branches of the U.S. military also need more pilots, and Friday's executive order could be used later to help address those challenges.
Defense Secretary James Mattis now has 'additional authorities to recall retired aviation officers regardless of certain limitations on status, period of service, and numbers to mitigate the Air Force's acute shortage of pilots,' Ross said.

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Post by annemarie on Sun 22 Oct 2017, 19:49

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5006211/Trump-supporter-harasses-lesbian-couple-California.html

This is the Trump era': California Trump supporter harasses a lesbian couple and tells them they'll 'burn in hell' for being gay

  • Jessica Lundquist and Tiffany Steinberg were harassed by a man in California  

  • They were holding hands at Huntington Beach when the man walked up to them

  • Anthony Miskulin, 38, told them 'it's the Trump era and things will be changing'

  • In a video, Misuklin told the couple that they will 'burn in hell' for being gay  


By Valerie Edwards For Dailymail.com
PUBLISHED: 13:35 EDT, 22 October 2017 UPDATED: 14:04 EDT, 22 October 2017

    


Donald Trump supporter was caught on camera telling a lesbian couple that they would 'burn in hell' for being gay and welcomed them to the 'Trump era'. 
Jessica Lundquist and Tiffany Steinberg were enjoying an evening out strolling down the Huntington Beach Pier hand-in-hand when they were approached by Anthony Miskulin. 
Steinberg said her girlfriend was Snapchatting when Miskulin walked right up to them. In the caption of the their video, Steinberg says he 'got all up in' Lundquist's face and started calling them sinners.
The video starts off showing Miskulin walking alongside the couple as they tried to walk the other away.





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Jessica Lundquist and Tiffany Steinberg were enjoying an evening out strolling down the Huntington Beach Pier hand-in-hand when they were approached by Anthony Miskulin (left and right) who told them they would 'burn in hell' for being gay


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Steinberg (right) said her girlfriend, Lundquist (left), was Snapchatting when Miskulin walked right up to them. In the caption of the their video, Steinberg says he 'got all up in' Lundquist's face and started calling them sinners
But he continues to follow them through the area, telling them that they are 'exchanging normal sexual behaviors with abnormal ones'.  
'Once you're in hell, you can never leave hell,' Miskulin says.
'I don't care!' Steinberg is heard yelling at the man, who asks them if they would like to pray together.
When they both decline, Miskulin continues to follow Steinberg and Lundquist, who are both YouTubers, down the pier.
He then babbles that they are 'going to burn in hell' before telling them that it seems like they have had issues with men. 
'I am gay everyone. I would just like you to know. I am gay and I'm burning in hell. Just wanted you to know that this guy doesn't agree but I am gay. Thank you everyone,' Steinberg shouts.
'Is this your first time in Orange County?' the man asks. 'No I live here,' Steinberg replies.


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The couple said they were shocked by the Miskulin's actions toward them last week 
'You're kidding me?' the man said before asking Steinberg if she is a Democrat.
When she answers 'yes', the guy asks: 'Oh my God they let you move here?' 
Moments later, a bystander comes up to couple and the man and asks if everything is okay. 
Steinberg is heard telling the woman that the man has been harassing them. 'Harassment is not legal,' the girl is heard saying in the background.  
The man then claims he's a criminal defense attorney (which was a lie) before he says he's exercising his freedom of speech. 

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He then identifies himself and gives the couple permission to film him because he wanted to get his message out. But when they tell him 'no one agrees with you' he responds by saying: 'They do actually, this is the Trump era and you're going to see a whole lot of things changing.'
Steinberg instantly turns away and they finally manage to get away from him as they troll him about Trump.
The couple said the incident occurred around 9pm on Sunday, October 15. They both said it was the very first time they had ever been discriminated against in public. 
When Steinberg posted the video on Facebook, it received more than 100,000 views. 
One commenter said that they had even dealt with Miskulin before. 


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The couple (pictured) said the incident occurred around 9pm on Sunday, October 15. They both said it was the very first time they had ever been discriminated against in public
Facebook user Alec David Bauer wrote: 'I got into a fat argument with him for this very reason [sic] he was giving two girls holding hands sh*t saying they are going to hell blah blah blah and then he told my autistic mute friend he was going to hell...he obviously didn't know what was happening but I tore him a new one that day...this guy is a tool.' 
Miskulin was interviewed by the Los Angeles Times last year explaining why he voted for Trump.  
'The reason I voted for Donald Trump for president was because I was tired of the politics of Washington. 
'I was tired of my country being run a much with illegal aliens who shouldn't be here in the first place,' he added. 
Miskulin is definitely not a lawyer, but at one point in his life he made six figures as a loan officer before the Great Recession hit. 
Now he works in corporate sales making $26,000 a year. 
He told the Times last year that his vote for Trump 'wasn’t out of bigotry'. 'It wasn’t out of hatred. It was about survival,' he added. 
'I’ve been to the welfare office before, and a lot of people who go there don’t speak English,' Miskulin said. 
'Most of the people who go there, they’re not white. They’re not even black. The most people you see there are mostly Mexican.... They are illegal and they don’t belong in our country,' he said at the time.  


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Post by annemarie on Mon 23 Oct 2017, 00:45

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5006463/Cub-Scout-kicked-den-pressing-senator-guns.html

Colorado Cub Scout, 11, is kicked out of his den for pressing his state senator about a bill she backed to allow domestic violence offenders to own a gun

  • Ames Mayfield, 11, pressed senator Vicki Marble during a Q&A session

  • His task was to research and ask a question that impacts the community 

  • Den leaders thought his question was disrespectful and too political 

  • Former representative Gabrielle Giffords tweeted in support of Ames 

  • Giffords was shot in the head during a public appearance in 2012  


By Kayla Brantley For Dailymail.com
PUBLISHED: 17:17 EDT, 22 October 2017 UPDATED: 17:29 EDT, 22 October 2017


A Cub Scout from Colorado has been kicked out of his den for asking his state senator a tough question on gun control.
Ames Mayfield, 11, pressed his Republican senator Vicki Marble during a question and answer session on a den outing.
When it was Ames' turn, he read from a printed sheet he had prepared: 'An issue that I'm concerned about is common sense gun control. I was shocked that you co-sponsored a bill to allow domestic violence offender to continue to own a gun. ... Why on Earth would you want somebody who beats their wife to have access to a gun?'
Though his task was to research and ask a question that impacts the community, Ames said his den leaders called his question disrespectful and too political. 
Pack leaders held a meeting with Ames' mother, Lori Mayfield, where they told her her son was no longer apart of the den.
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Former Arizona representative Gabrielle Giffords tweeted in support of Ames 
The incident caught the attention of former Arizona representative Gabrielle Giffords prompting her to tweet in support of the boy. 
Giffords tweeted on Thursday: 'This is exactly the kind of courage we need in Congress. Ames, call me in 14 years. I'll campaign for you.' 
The congresswoman survived a gunshot wound to the head during a public appearance in 2012.  
Ames told Fox 31: Given that the Las Vegas shooting happened, I felt that it should be a reasonable thing to ask. I don't feel like I did anything wrong.' 



Ames continued his question backed by in-depth research for more than two minutes when the den leader cut him off to allow the senator to answer. Both the senator and the leader commended him for his 'thorough' list of questions. 
Senator Vicki Marble fielded the question by saying, 'we need crime control'.
Marble told the Denver Post, 'I don't blame the boy for asking the questions, since I believe there was an element of manipulation involved, and it wasn't much different from the questions I normally field in other meetings.The invitation to meet with the Scouts was never intended to cause friction and controversy.'


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Ames's mom Lori said the den leaders called a meeting with her to tell her that her son has been kicked out of his den 
The Scouts did not explicitly say he was kicked out of the den. The Boy Scouts said only that he remains a member of the larger pack, and that the organization is working with the family to offer him options that will 'allow him to continue his Scouting experience in a way that fits his and his family's needs.'
But Ames' mom said he was heartbroken to find out he could not longer be in his den because he took a liking to his group leader and was just four months away from transitioning from the Cub Scouts to the Boy Scouts. 
She added that he didn't understand why his question was inappropriate.  
While he is no longer welcome at his former Scout den, his mother said another area den has invited Ames to join. He will transition to Boy Scouts in February. 


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Post by Donnamarie on Mon 23 Oct 2017, 01:02

I would expect the National Boy Scouts organization to intervene. They should. This boy did nothing wrong. His question was too political? There is nothing political about questioning why a confirmed violent offender should legally have a gun. He should have been commended for being so civic minded. Good for Ames!
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Post by LizzyNY on Mon 23 Oct 2017, 02:13

If they don't ant their members asking political questions they should stop inviting politicians to their meetings. What are they supposed to ask about? Cooking tips?
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Post by annemarie on Mon 23 Oct 2017, 10:59

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5007271/McCain-attacks-Trump-s-deferral-Vietnam-war.html

John McCain launches not-so-subtle attack on Trump as he savages wealthy young men who avoided the Vietnam draft 'with a doctor’s note for a bone spur' – the same reason the President gave for not going to war

  • McCain spoke about the Vietnam War in a C-SPAN interview aired Sunday night

  • He criticized wealthy individuals who were able to avoid being drafted by having doctors write them a note that they had a bone spur

  • One of those was President Trump - who has longstanding beef with McCain

  • In 2015 Trump criticized McCain for being a POW during Vietnam - despite the fact that his service earned him the title of War Hero

  • Earlier this year McCain was one of few republicans who didn't vote for Trump's proposal to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act 


By Abigail Miller For Dailymail.com
PUBLISHED: 00:51 EDT, 23 October 2017 UPDATED: 02:31 EDT, 23 October 2017



Senator John McCain delivered a thinly veiled attack of President Trump's lack of military service on Sunday evening. 
McCain, who has been criticized about his war hero status by Trump, seemed to retaliate while speaking about the Vietnam War in an interview aired on C-Span Sunday night.
The 81-year-old from Arizona spoke about how wealthy Americans were able to avoid being drafted into service during the battle - in which he spent five years as a prisoner of war - by having a doctor say they had a bone spur. 
If that sounds familiar to anyone, that's because it is the excuse that President Trump used in one of his five deferments during Vietnam. The other four were because he was still a college student.
'One aspect of the conflict, by the way, that I will never ever countenance is that we drafted the lowest-income level of America, and the highest-income level found a doctor that would say they had a bone spur,' McCain said in the interview. 
'That is wrong. That is wrong. If we are going to ask every American to serve, every American should serve.' 


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This less-than-subtle criticism follows Trump's continuing controversy surrounding gold star families, and particularly how he allegedly told Sgt La David Johnson's widow that her husband 'knew what he signed up for,' when he went to Niger, where he was killed. 
McCain and Trump have feuded since the reality television host-turned-president used an event during his presidential campaign to claim that McCain wasn't a war hero because he was captured during the Vietnam War. 
Specifically, he said: 'I like people who weren't captured.'

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Trump would not apologize for the remark - and now that feud has transferred into the Trump administration, with McCain becoming one of the most fervent critics of the Republican party. 
McCain was one of few Republicans to vote against Trump's proposal to repeal and replace Obamacare, earning him harsh criticism from the President.   


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In 2015 it was revealed that Trump - who actually graduated high school from the New York Military Academy - received medical deferment from the war in 1968 after showing up to a physical examination with bone spurs in his feet.
In 2016, just before he was elected to office, Trump told the New York Times: 'I had a doctor that gave me a letter - a very strong letter on the heels.'
He said his condition, bone spurs, was temporary and 'not a big problem, but it was a big enough problem.' 
Bone spurs are a calcium deposit that causes a bony protrusion on the underside of the heel bone. They are generally caused by a local inflammation and can inflame or injure nearby cartilage or tendons. 
And though McCain's comments might seem pointed - they come with plausible deniability - as a number of wealthy Americans used the same excuse to avoid being drafted.
This would not be the first time that the Arizona Republican criticized Trump and made allusions to his 'half-baked spurious nationalism cooked up by people who would rather find scapegoats than solve problems.' 
He was speaking specifically about Trump's strong support for the military and for the troops despite never serving, and for the President's criticism of athletes who kneel during the anthem. 

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The claim he made that comment was backed up by Rep Frederica Wilson (pictured), who said she was listening into the interview when he said it
McCain was also one of many to criticize the way that Trump allegedly told the late Sgt La David Johnson's widow that he 'knew what he signed up for,' during a phone call to the woman to express his condolences.  
The claim he made that comment was backed up by Rep Frederica Wilson, who said she was listening into the interview when he said it.  Trump has now gone after the congresswoman with a vengeance - referring to her on Twitter as 'wacky,' in an effort to dismantle her credibility.
McCain, who was recently diagnosed with a glioblastoma brain tumor, said in the C-SPAN interview that a lot of the lessons learned in the Vietnam war can be applied today.  
Specifically he spoke to the need for the US to have a 'strategy and capability to win' before getting involved in a conflict. 
'It really split our society in a way that we sometimes forget. Mass arrests, demonstrations, Chicago, that all of us can look back and see on C-SPAN,' McCain said.
'It was a tumultuous time and most of it was bred by the conflict.' 
Since being diagnosed with the brain tumor, which carries a five-year survival rate of 10 percent, McCain has held nothing back in speaking about or acting on his opposition to Trump or his policies.




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Post by annemarie on Mon 23 Oct 2017, 11:05

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5007099/US-ready-nuclear-bombers-24-hour-alert.html

US ready to put 'nuclear bombers on 24-hour alert' for first time since the end of the Cold War amid growing tensions with Russia and North Korea

  • US Air Force is prepping nuclear-armed bombers to be on 24-hour alert 

  • Armed B-52s will be parked at Barksdale Air Force for the first time since 1991

  • Weapons will be ready to take off at a moment's notice if they get the command 


By Abigail Miller For Dailymail.com
PUBLISHED: 23:12 EDT, 22 October 2017 UPDATED: 04:58 EDT, 23 October 2017

    

The United States Air Force will put its ageing fleet of nuclear-capable B-52 bombers on 24-hour alert for the first time since the end of the Cold War, according to its chief of staff. 
Amid rising tensions with North Korea and a resurgent Putin-led Russia, General David Goldfein told Defense One that the strategic bomber force will be ready at a day's notice for the first time in 26 years. 
Adapting to the 'reality of the global situation', Goldfein's order would see B-52s readied at Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana and armed with nuclear weapons - something not seen since 1991.
Indeed, Barksdale - the home of the 2D Bomb Wing and Air Force Global Strike Command - is currently being refurbished in anticipation of the change in defense posture to allow the bombers to 'take off at a moment's notice'.
This is the latest defensive move from the US military, matching the bellicose threats that President Trump has posted on Twitter, putting North Korea, Iran and other American enemies on notice he will use the might of the armed forces.

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In a few months the pads at Barksdale Air Force (pictured), which are dubbed the 'Christmas Tree' because of their angular markings,' will be piled high with weapons 
This comes after Donald Trump met with top military chiefs on October 6, and made a comment about 'calm before the storm.'
Speaking to Defense One, General Goldfein emphasized that orders haven't been given yet, but that they are preparing the bases in the event that it should happen.
'This is yet one more step in ensuring that we're prepared,' General Goldfein explained.
'I look at it more as not planning for any specific event, but more for the reality of the global situation we find ourselves in and how we ensure we're prepared going forward.' 
Were things to escalate, the decision to fire would be made by General John Hyten, commander of Strategic Command, or General Lori Robinson, head of Northern Command. 
Readying the B-52s is just one of many decisions facing the Air Force as North Korea continues to advance its nuclear arsenal. 
Kim Jong-Un's rhetoric has grown more confrontational by the day - following his first threat to wipe the United States off the earth in early April.
So in addition to President Trump's confrontational rebuttals and Russia's increasingly confident armed forces, General Goldfein said it's best to be prepared.


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He has asked his force to think of new ways that nuclear weapons can be used for either deterrence or combat, he told Defense One. 
Specifically, General Goldfein told airmen to think beyond Cold War uses for ICBMs, bombers and nuclear cruise missiles.



'The world is a dangerous place and we've got folks that are talking openly about use of nuclear weapons,' he explained. 
'It's no longer a bipolar world where it's just us and the Soviet Union. We've got other players out there who have nuclear capability. It's never been more important to make sure that we get this mission right.'  


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Barksdale (pictured) is home to the 2d Bomb Wing and Air Force Global Strike Command, and oversees the service's nuclear forces. It is therefore the place where the Air Force is most focused on readying B-52s to return to alert posture
General Goldfein said he's not sure if placing B52s on alert will help with deterrence, because it would depend on the players, their specific behaviors, and their understanding of the US's readiness status. 
At Barksdale several improvements have been made in preparation - including the renovation of a building near the alert pads where B-52 crews can sleep.  
The base is home to the 2d Bomb Wing and Air Force Global Strike Command, and oversees the service's nuclear forces. It is therefore the place where the Air Force is most focused on readying B-52s to return to alert posture.  
Two nuclear command planes - the E-4B Nightwatch and E-6B Mercury - will both occasionally visit the base. In the event of a nuclear war those planes would be the flying command posts of the defense secretary and STRATCOM commander (respectively), according to Defense One. 


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It comes as Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said he would talk with Asian allies about North Korea and the crisis caused by Pyongyang's 'reckless' provocations
If a strike were to be ordered, launch codes would be transmitted to bombers from those planes. 
Multiple bases with nuclear bombers, including Barksdale, are preparing to build storage facilities for the new nuclear cruise missile under development. That missile is a proposed replacement for the 400-plus Minutemen III ICBM.
'Our job is options. We provide the best military advice and options for the commander in chief and the secretary of defense,' General Goldfein told Defense One. 
He said that should commanders need it, the base will be ready to defend the homeland.
It comes as Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said he would talk with Asian allies about North Korea and the crisis caused by Pyongyang's 'reckless' provocations, as he kicked off a week-long trip to the region on Monday to meet defense chiefs in the Philippines.
Mattis' trip to Asia, which will also include stops in Thailand and South Korea, comes just weeks before President Trump's first visit to Asia. 
Trump, in a speech last month at the United Nations, threatened to destroy North Korea if necessary to defend the United States and its allies. Kim has blasted Trump as 'mentally deranged.'
Mattis, who has emphasized diplomacy, was expected to meet both his Japanese and South Korean counterparts on Monday before meeting with all three of them together. He will attend a meeting from Monday to Wednesday of defense ministers from the Association of Southeast Asian Nations in the Philippines. He will go to Seoul later in the week for more defense talks.


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The USS Ronald Reagan aircraft carrier arrives in the South Korean port city of Busan
'I will talk with my counterparts, discussing the regional security crisis caused by the reckless DPRK North Korea provocations but also discuss our respect for shared values like sovereignty of the states, their territorial integrity, freedom of navigation through historically international waters, and fair and reciprocal trade,' Mattis told reporters.
A U.S. Navy destroyer sailed near islands claimed by China in the South China Sea last week, seeking to promote freedom of navigation. The maneuver prompted anger in Beijing.
Trump's trip next month will include a visit to China, which he has been pressuring to do more to rein in North Korea's missile and nuclear programs. China is North Korea's neighbor and biggest trading partner. 
On Thursday the USS Ronald Reagan, a 100,000-ton nuclear powered aircraft carrier, was patrolling in waters east of the Korean peninsula, in a show of sea and air power designed to warn off North Korea from any military action. 
The U.S. Navy's biggest warship in Asia, with a crew of 5,000 sailors, sailed around 100 miles launching almost 90 F-18 Super Hornet sorties from its deck, in sight of South Korean islands. 

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Manufacturer: Boeing
First deployed: 1955
Length: 159 feet, 4 inches 
Wingspan: 185 feet 
Speed: 650 mph 
Range: 8,800 miles without refueling 
Armaments: 70,000 pounds of ordnance, which can include bombs, mines and nuclear missiles
Maximum altitude: 50,000 feet 
Crew: Five. 
Inventory: 58 active, 18 reserve. 
Cost: $84million 
Expected end of service: Last B52 to be decommissioned in 2045 
 

B-52s were one arm of the nuclear deterrent force during the Cold War and were used in the carpet-bombings of North Vietnam. 
During the 1991 Gulf War, they dropped 40 per cent of the ordnance on Iraq. 
With airborne refueling, the planes — now fitted to launch cruise missiles as well as drop bombs — can fly around the world. 
During the Gulf War, B-52s took off from Barksdale Air Force Base, Louisiana, fired missiles at Iraq, and returned home in a marathon 35-hour mission.
They were also used in the 1999 air campaign against Yugoslavia and pounded al-Qaida and Taliban positions in Afghanistan in 2001 and 2002. 
The B-52 was also involved in Operation Iraqi Freedom.  
In 2007, six AGM-129 ACM cruise missiles equipped with W80-1 variable yield nuclear warheads were mistakenly loaded onto a B-52 at Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota before being transported to Barksdale. They were not protected by the usual security measures and remained attached to the plane for 36 hours.

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President Trump threw his weight Monday behind a measure to fix parts of Obamacare, the first time he has voiced approval of a specific legislative approach to do so and an abrupt turnaround on a bipartisan effort to preserve key elements of the healthcare system that he has sought to repeal.
Trump’s backing of what he repeatedly referred to as a “short-term fix” to ensure “good healthcare” came during freewheeling remarks in which he sought to mend relations with GOP leaders, even as he kicks a growing list of complicated issues to Congress, including immigration and the Iran nuclear deal.
Appearing with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell after a White House lunch, Trump pledged to try to at least partially rein in his former strategist Stephen K. Bannon, who has vowed to challenge incumbent Republicans in 2018, especially those who back McConnell as leader.
He said “no, not at all” when asked whether he was considering firing Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel investigating Russian interference in last year’s election.
And he lauded Republican successes in confirming judicial nominees and promised swift approval of tax reform.
“We are probably now, I think — at least as far as I'm concerned — closer than ever before,” Trump said, using the pomp of the Rose Garden for a news conference to signal a truce with the majority leader. “The relationship is very good.”
The tone contrasted sharply with the barbs Trump repeatedly has tossed toward McConnell. In August, Trump left the door open to replacing the Kentucky senator as majority leader — responding equivocally to a question about whether he should step down — a drastic step for a sitting president.
Just hours before the lunch, in an earlier set of remarks, Trump repeated his unhappiness with the way his agenda has stalled in Congress, as well as his desire to place blame elsewhere.





“We're not getting the job done,” Trump said. “And I’m not going to blame myself, I’ll be honest. They are not getting the job done.”
But it was Trump’s comments on healthcare that could be the most immediately consequential.
For most of his presidency, Trump has insisted that the Affordable Care Act could not be fixed. When he has talked about working with Democrats on the issue, he has often couched that as a threat to Republicans.
Monday’s remarks, after a weekend phone call with Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.), the Health Committee chairman, who has been negotiating for weeks on a bipartisan healthcare measure, headed in a strikingly different direction, although Trump also repeatedly insisted that Obamacare was a failure.
“Obamacare is finished. It's dead. It's gone. You shouldn't even mention it. It's gone. There is no such thing as Obamacare anymore,” he said earlier in the day.
Trump’s comments came just days after he announced he would cut off payments to insurers that reimburse them for providing health plans with low deductibles and co-pays to low-income consumers. Alexander’s approach, which Trump appeared to endorse, would reinstate those payments in return for some Republican priorities, including more flexibility for states in overseeing their healthcare systems.
State insurance regulators, patient advocates and insurers have warned that premiums would rise sharply if the government ends the payments. The impact would be most severe in Republican-controlled states, according to independent analysts. Ending the payments would also increase federal spending because as premiums rise, so does the assistance the government provides people to make them affordable.
Trump boasted that his decision to cut off the insurance subsidies, known as cost-sharing reduction payments, had pushed Democrats to the negotiating table on the Affordable Care Act.
“Because of that, people are talking now,” Trump said. “Democrats are talking to the Republicans.”
In fact, bipartisan healthcare discussions have been underway in the Senate for months. They were derailed in September when Senate GOP leaders abruptly abandoned talks and revived their push to repeal the healthcare law. With the defeat of that latest Obamacare repeal effort, Alexander and Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.), the top Democrat on the health panel, restarted talks.
Trump and Alexander spoke by phone over the weekend, and “the president encouraged him to get a bipartisan deal,” according to an aide to the senator who said the two also spoke the previous weekend.
Congressional aides said Monday they were nearing a compromise. “Good progress was made over the last week,” said a Republican staff member.
The deal being worked on is expected to continue the cost-sharing reduction payments for at least another year, possibly two. Many state regulators, insurers and consumer advocates say doing so is crucial to controlling premiums and stabilizing markets.
In exchange, Republicans are seeking changes in the current law that would make it easier for states to dispense with some federal insurance regulations. Alexander has emphasized that he doesn’t want to roll back protections for Americans with preexisting conditions.
“I'm hopeful that we are nearing an agreement,” said Senate Democratic leader Charles E. Schumer of New York. “If he's now supportive of an agreement that stabilizes and improves the existing system under the Affordable Care Act, we certainly welcome that change of heart.”
The details remain in flux, however, and some Republicans want a bigger rollback of federal regulations so states can offer plans that provide less coverage but come with a lower price tag.
“I think we’re encouraged that there are people talking, but I think that we do have a policy difference,” said Marc Short, the White House’s director of legislative affairs. “That starting point doesn’t seem like it’s a realistic one for us,” he added, referring to Alexander’s proposals so far.
The Rose Garden event came at a time when congressional Republicans are desperate to show voters they can deliver for the president, who remains highly popular among GOP primary voters.
Trump welcomed McConnell as “a friend of mine for a long time,” despite having repeatedly blamed and scolded the Kentucky Republican for Congress’ failure to repeal Obamacare.
“We have been working together long and hard,” Trump said.
The more buttoned-down McConnell, who has made no secret of his own objections to Trump’s often-disruptive style, agreed they were moving forward on tax cuts, judicial nominees and other issues.
“We have the same agenda,” McConnell said.
Even so, there were differences.
When Trump said he thought there was a good chance of “getting the taxes done, hopefully fairly long before the end of the year,” McConnell quickly interjected with a reminder that the congressional process is seldom that fast.
“Obama signed Obamacare in March of year two. Obama signed Dodd-Frank in July of year two,” he said.
Crucially for McConnell, however, Trump said he would try to talk Bannon into relenting — at least in part — in his self-proclaimed “war” on Republican incumbents.
Earlier in the day, Trump said that he could “understand where Steve Bannon is coming from,” but with McConnell standing next to him, he took a more conciliatory tone.
“Steve is doing what Steve thinks is the right thing. Some of the people that he may be looking at, I'm going to see if we can talk him out of that, because, frankly, they're great people,” he said, adding a moment later, “with the exception of a few.”
Times staff writers Noam N. Levey and Brian Bennett in Washington contributed to this report.

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Post by annemarie on Mon 23 Oct 2017, 18:05

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5008459/Army-Green-Beret-s-widow-speaks-Trump-call.html

Trump gets into Twitter fight with Gold Star widow saying he 'spoke his name without hesitation' after she says president couldn't remember her fallen husband's name

  • Myeshia Johnson, the widow of Sgt. La David Johnson, appeared Monday on 'Good Morning America' to speak about her fallen soldier husband

  • Sgt. Johnson was one of four soldiers killed in an ISIS ambush in Niger this month

  • His widow claims that President Donald Trump didn't know her late husband's name when he placed a condolence call to her 

  • 'I heard him stumbling on trying to remember my husband's name and that's what hurt me the most,' she said

  • Trump fired back minutes later, insisting that he 'spoke his name from beginning, without hesitation!'

  • Florida Congresswoman Frederica Wilson heard the call and says he told the grieving widow that her husband 'knew what he signed up for'

  • In her interview, Johnson confirmed Wilson's version of events


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PUBLISHED: 08:21 EDT, 23 October 2017 UPDATED: 12:28 EDT, 23 October 2017

    


Donald Trump is disputing Gold Star widow Myeshia Johnson's account of a phone call they shared shortly after her husband' death in Niger.
'He couldn't remember my husband's name,' she said Monday on ABC's 'Good Morning America' program. 'The only way he remembered my husband's name was because he told me he had my husband's report in front of him, and that's when he actually said "La David".'
'I heard him stumbling on trying to remember my husband's name and that's what hurt me most,' she said.
The president quickly pounced on Twitter.
'I had a very respectful conversation with the widow of Army Specialist Sgt. La David Johnson, and spoke his name from beginning, without hesitation!' he tweeted after the interview ended 
Johnson was among the four soldiers killed in an ISIS ambush this month. 

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Myeshia Johnson (pictured), the widow of Sgt. La David Johnson, said Monday on Good Morning America that President Donald Trump couldn't remember his late husband's name during a condolence call


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Challenge! Trump immediately disputed Mrs Johnson's recollection of events, insisting he was respectful and knew Sgt Johnson's name



Trump tweeted that he had a 'very respectful conversation' and said Sgt. Johnson's name 'without hesitation!'

The president has been in a war of words with Florida Congresswoman Frederica Wilson over the call, after Wilson said in an interview that Trump dismissively told Myeshia Johnson her husband 'knew what he signed up for.'
Wilson is a family friend of the Johnsons, and was in a limousine with the Gold Star widow and her family on the way to the airport to pick up the soldier's body when Trump made the call.
Johnson confirmed Wilson's version of events on Monday.


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Sgt. Johnson (pictured) was one of four soldiers killed in an ISIS ambush in Niger earlier this month
'Whatever Ms Wilson said was not fabricated. What she said was 100 per cent correct,' Johnson said. 'The phone was on speakerphone. Why would we fabricate something like that?' 
Johnson said her aunt, her uncle, a master sergeant and Wilson were with her in the car when Trump called the master sergeant .
The call came as they pulled onto the tarmac at Dover Dover Air Force Base to pick up Sgt. Johnson's body, his widow said.
Johnson said she asked the master sergeant to put the phone on speakerphone so that everyone in the car could hear Trump. 
'The president said "He knew what he signed up for, but it hurts anyway",' Johnson recalled.
'It made me cry because I was very angry at the tone of his voice and how he said it. 
'He couldn't remember my husband's name. The only way he remembered my husband's name was because he told me he had my husband's report in front of him, and that's when he actually said "La David."
'I heard him stumbling on trying to remember my husband's name and that's what hurt me most. Because if my husband is out here fighting for our country and he risks his life for our country, why can't you remember his name? And that's what made me upset and cry more,' she added. 







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Johnson is pictured moments after her call with President Trump, when she greeted her husband's casket at Dover Air Force Base on October 17


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Johnson kisses her husband's casket at his burial service on Saturday in Hollywood, Florida 


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Johnson is seen above at her husband's burial service this weekend with their two-year-old son and six-year-old daughter 
Johnson was so stunned by the call, she claimed, that she didn't respond to the president.
She says she left the call feeling even worse than before. 
Johnson said she was  'very, very upset' after the call and that it 'made me cry even worse.'
In the interview, Johnson also demanded answers for what happened to her husband, and why she hasn't been allowed to look at his body yet. 
Johnson says the Army first told her that her husband went missing on October 4 after coming under a 'mass of gunfire'.
They returned a few days later and said that he had been killed in action, but didn't go into further detail.
'I don't know how he got killed, where he got killed or anything. I don't know that part they never told me and that's what I've been trying to find out since day one,' she said.



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Johnson, left, was led into the burial service by a master sergeant. Her baby bump is full visible. She's expecting a baby girl in January 


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Florida Congresswoman Frederica Wilson (pictured October 18), who was in the car with Johnson when she received the call from Trump, was the first person to describe his statements, which many deemed insensitive 

She also says Army officials haven't allowed her to look at her husband's body.
'They tell me that he's in a severe wrap, that I won't be able to see him,' Johnson said.
'They won't show me a finger, a hand. I know my husband's body from head to toe and they won't let me see anything. I don't know what's in that box it could be empty for all I know,' she added. 
Johnson says she's going to 'keep pushing' for answers.
Meanwhile, she says she's speaking out to let he world know 'how great a soldier' her husband was, as well as what a 'loving and caring father and husband he was to our family'. 
The couple met when they were just six years old, and have two children together - a two-year-old son and a six-year-old daughter. The couple's third child, a daughter, is due in January. 
When asked how she's going to teach her daughter about her father, Johnson said this:
'I'm gonna tell her how awesome her dad was and how great a father he was and how he died as a hero.'

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Post by carolhathaway on Tue 24 Oct 2017, 13:28

Has anybody seen this CNN report about the Johnson - Wilson - Trump - Kelly - Saunders discussion?

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Post by LizzyNY on Tue 24 Oct 2017, 15:20

Carolhathaway - Thanks. I hadn't seen it. That's a brilliant piece of journalism! Clear, concise and PROVEN with videotape. Too bad it won't be shown on every news show in the country. It might make a dent in some people's opinions.
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Post by Donnamarie on Tue 24 Oct 2017, 20:26

Great reporting by Lemon. Thanks for posting carol.
I can’t remember what evening news show I was watching but they showed the whole presentation given by Congresswoman Wilson on that day back in 2015. Much of it Lemon showed. Wilson gave a vibrant and thoughtful speech and thanked many involved in making this building and dedication happen. The only thing that is ‘stunning’ about this entire episode is how Trump handled the death of this honorable soldier and Kelly’s obvious lie in order to protect the inappropriate behavior by Trump.
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Post by carolhathaway on Tue 24 Oct 2017, 22:06

Wow! 
And they are REPUBLICANS!!!

Thanks, PAN!
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Post by carolhathaway on Tue 24 Oct 2017, 22:07

By the way:
Hasn't Trump slammed Flake on twitter? Or did he miss the opportunity to show his diplomatic skills? Wink
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One Republican who gets it , sadly for us all the rest won't.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5014293/Zinke-s-hometown-friend-gets-300m-Puerto-Rico-contract.html

Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke's hometown friend gets $300 million contract to fix Puerto Rico's power grid – even though his company had TWO employees

  • Whitefish Energy signed a $300 million contract to restore power in Puerto Rico

  • The Montana firm had just two employees when Hurricane Maria hit the island 

  •  It now says it has 280 workers in the U.S. territory

  • The company cited its expertise working in mountainous areas 

  • Whitefish is the town where Interior Department Sec. Ryan Zinke was raised

  • Zinke says he knows the CEO, Andy Techmanski, and that one of his sons worked a job at one of his construction sites

  • President Trump has made restoring Puerto Rico's grid a priority 


By Geoff Earle, Deputy U.s. Political Editor For Dailymail.com and Associated Press
PUBLISHED: 18:34 EDT, 24 October 2017 UPDATED: 18:36 EDT, 24 October 2017

    

A tiny firm from Montana managed to snag a $300 million contract to help restore Puerto Rico's devastated power grid – and it had just two employees when Hurricane Maria hit.
Whitefish Energy signed a the contract five days ago to restore power in Puerto Rico, despite having no history of doing any comparable work.
Now, a Democratic lawmaker is calling for an inquiry, as attention focuses on the firms' tiny hometown of Whitefish, Montana – which happens to be the town where Interior Department secretary Ryan Zinke was raised.
 Rep. Raul Grijalva of Arizona, the leading Democrat on the House Natural Resources Committee, is calling for a probe of the contract. While the vast majority of Puerto Rico's 3.5 million people are without power. 


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In this Sunday, Oct. 15, 2017 photo, Whitefish Energy Holdings workers restore power lines damaged by Hurricane Maria in Barceloneta, Puerto Rico. Whitefish CEO Andy Techmanski said previous work restoring transmission lines damaged by wildfires in the western U.S. has prepared them for the Puerto Rico contract. (AP Photo/Ramon Espinosa)
He said Congress 'needs to understand why the Whitefish contract was awarded and whether other, more cost-effective options were available.'
According to the Washington Post, which reported the story, the company is based in Whitefish, Mont., Zinke's hometown. 

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Its CEO, Andy Techmanski, knows Zinke, although according to Zinke officials it is a town where 'everybody knows everybody.' 
The paper wrote that one of Zinke's sons 'worked a summer job' at at a Techmanski construction site. Both men said Zinke had no role in the contract. Zinke is a former congressman from that part of Montana. 
'Neither the secretary nor anyone in his office have taken any meetings or action on behalf of this company,' the department said in a statement.


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Dan Coats, director of national intelligence, from left, Betsy DeVos, U.S. secretary of education, Eric Hargan, acting U.S. secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS), and Ryan Zinke, U.S. secretary of interior, listen as U.S. President Donald Trump, not pictured, speaks during a cabinet meeting at the White House in Washington, D.C., U.S., on Monday, Oct. 16, 2017
The company had just two Energy Department contracts under its belt. One was for just $172,000.
Under the contract, subcontractors would get $462 per hour for a supervisor, $319 for a lineman, plus accommodation fees of $332 per worker and $80 per day for food.
The island is billions in debt, with about 80 per cent of residents lacking power.  
Ricardo Ramos, director of Puerto Rico's power authority, said the government has a $300 million contract with Whitefish and a separate $200 million contract with Oklahoma-based Cobra Acquisitions after evaluating up to six companies for the job.
Whitefish was one of two companies on the government's shortlist, Ramos said. The other company was requiring a $25 million down payment, given the power authority's troubled finances. PREPA filed for bankruptcy in July and has put off badly needed maintenance for years. It just finished dealing with outages from Hurricane Irma in early September.


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President Donald Trump speaks during a cabinet meeting at the White House, Monday, Oct. 16, 2017, in Washington, as Secretary of the Interior Ryan Zinke, left, and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, center, listen. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)


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Zinke rode a horse to work on his first day, but auditors are looking at his government jet travel
Whitefish is providing hotel rooms for it workers and brought its own materials, Ramos said. 'They're doing an excellent job,' he said.
Whitefish CEO Techmanski visited Puerto Rico in late summer while on vacation and established contact with PREPA and discussed potential future work, company spokesman Chris Chiames said. When Maria hit Sept. 20, Whitefish was one of the companies that power authority officials were able to reach by satellite phone.
'We got here quicker than anybody else and we built a plan that PREPA had confidence in,' Chiames said in telephone interview.
Grijalva said lawmakers also need to know why the Federal Emergency Management Agency, the Army Corps of Engineers and public sector utilities 'failed in Puerto Rico to conduct the disaster-response planning they carried out ahead of other disasters this year' in Texas, Florida and other states. 


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Post by annemarie on Thu 26 Oct 2017, 03:21

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5018045/Trump-congratulates-Xi-extraordinary-elevation.html

Trump congratulates China's President Xi on power grab saying he could be called the 'king of China' - as he labels the reelected leader a 'good person'

  • China's President Xi Jinping has been handed a second term as leader, as the 64-year-old Communist Party chief also unveiled a new ruling council 

  • Xi's name was inserted into the party constitution, a first after the country's founder Chairman Mao, suggesting he could rule indefinitely

  • In a tweet, President Trump congratulated Xi for his 'extraordinary elevation' as the communist leader tightened his grip on power weeks before Trump's trip

  • Later, in an interview with Lou Dobbs, Trump noted that 'some people might call [Xi] the king of China' after his successful re-election

  • 'People say we have the best relationship of any president-president, because he's called president also,' Trump also said  


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PUBLISHED: 17:29 EDT, 25 October 2017 UPDATED: 21:57 EDT, 25 October 2017

    

President Trump touted his relationship with China's Xi Jinping and complemented the Chinese leader for his reelection and the fact that his name and dogma were now written into his party's constitution.
'It's really virtually never happened in China,' Trump told Fox Business Network's Lou Dobbs in an interview that aired Wednesday night. 'Now some people might call him the king of China. But he’s called president,' the president added.
Dobbs, in a friendly interview, had asked the president about his relationship with Xi, noting how the 'so-called intelligentsia of this country’s foreign policy establishment' had indicated to Trump that he was wasting his time trying to court the Chinese leader. 
Trump brought up the fact that the two leaders had spoken on the phone just minutes before, something the president had tweeted about earlier. 
'Spoke to President Xi of China to congratulate him on his extraordinary elevation. Also discussed NoKo & trade, two very important subjects!' Trump tweeted after the call. 
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President Trump sat down Wednesday with Fox Business Network's Lou Dobbs and talked about his relationship with newly reelected Chinese President Xi Jinping 


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President Trump (right) welcomed President Xi (left) to his Mar-a-Lago estate in West Palm Beach, Florida in April


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President Trump (left) told Fox Business Network's Lou Dobbs (right) that he had just spoken to Xi on the phone and marveled at his tightening grip on power saying some could call him the 'king of China' though he goes by president 
Speaking to Dobbs he continued heaping on praise.  
'He's a powerful man. I happen to think he's a very good person,' Trump said. 'Now with that being said, he represents China, I represent the USA, so, you know, there's going to always be conflict.' 
'But we have a very good relationship,' Trump continued. 'People say we have the best relationship of any president-president, because he's called president also.' 
There, the American president suggested with Xi's newly defined power he could be considered a 'king.' 
'But we have a very good relationship and that's a positive thing,' Trump said, adding that he'd like to have a good relationship with Russia too.    
Trump's phone conversation with Xi came as the leader was formally handed a second term in power and both his name and his dogma were written into the party constitution – putting him on par with the nation's founder, communist revolutionary Mao Zedong.
The party meeting also saw Xi fuel speculation about how long he will remain in power by not anointing a possible successor to take over in five years' time.



Donald Trump sent his best wishes to Xi Jinping over Twitter on Wednesday, congratulating him on his role atop China's new leadership lineup


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The 64-year-old Xi was formally handed a second term during the 19th Communist Party Congress, and jueled speculation about an indefinite term of office when he ignored tradition and didn't name a successor
Trump and Xi will meet in China next month during the U.S. president's first official visit to Asia.
Trump will also stop in Japan, South Korea, Vietnam and the Philippines during the Nov. 3-14 trip.
China's state-run news agency Xinhua reported that Xi expressed a desire to work with Trump to 'jointly blueprint future development of China-US ties.' 
Trump's trip is more broadly expected to be dominated by concerns about North Korea's ballistic and nuclear programs.
Successive White Houses have viewed Xi's meteoric rise to become China's most powerful leader since Deng Xiaoping with cautious optimism.



Xi also announced the members of his new ruling council Tuesday at the Great Hall of the People in Beijing


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Delegates to the Communist Party Congress added Xi's name and his policies to the party constitution, putting him on a par with Mao Zedong
They hope it will lead to more streamlined decision making and see benefits in having an interlocutor who can afford to take some risks domestically.
A senior White House official told the South Chine Morning Post that 'the president has a very good working relationship with Xi Jinping. He wants to continue building on what the president terms a constructive and results-oriented relationship.'
'The 19th Party Congress provides the opportunity for us to get some things done in the relationship to put us on a good footing deep into the future,' the aide said



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Post by LizzyNY on Thu 26 Oct 2017, 15:01

Fascinating. He wants to have good working relationships with the two major communist powers we've been at odds with since forever, but can't bring himself to maintain relationships with the allies who've stood by us since we won our independence from Great Britain. He's looking at things like a (corrupt) businessman so he's willing to sell out our values to make a profit. Not only is he an amoral pervert, he's a traitor! I just pray that Mueller is building an iron-clad case.
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Post by carolhathaway on Thu 26 Oct 2017, 16:07

Lizzy,
don't forget that he doesn't work well with his own government and likes to paste his close staff. And tells you the opposite of what he said yesterday, so no one can really rely on him.

Believe me, both Putin and Xi know exactly who he is and how zo rate him and his promises and visions!
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Post by Donnamarie on Thu 26 Oct 2017, 16:31

Putin, Xi, Erdogan and even Kim Jong Un are smarter than Trump and could easily play him. Trump is dangerous to our country for many reasons but his lack of intelligence and diplomatic smarts really puts our country at a disadvantage.
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Post by LizzyNY on Thu 26 Oct 2017, 19:50

Donnamarie - Not for nuthin', my dead cat is smarter than Trump!
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Post by carolhathaway on Thu 26 Oct 2017, 20:29

Well, data security is much stricter in the EU than in the States. That's why our governments fight for to govern the use of our laws on facebook and other US companies.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5020875/Trump-drags-Confederate-statue-fight-VA-governor-race.html

Trump drags Confederate statue fight into Virginia governor's race saying Republican candidate will 'save our heritage'

  • President endorses Virginia gubernatorial candidate Ed Gillespie

  • Says the Republican 'might even save our great statues/heritage'

  • That's a reference to August's controversy over removing statues of Confederate generals from public places in southern U.S. states

  • Trump drew howls of protest in August when he said 'both sides' of a race riot were to blame for violence between Neo-Nazis and counter-protesters 

  • That clash, which led to one death, started as a white supremacist protest of a decision to tear down a public statue of Robert E. Lee 


By David Martosko, Us Political Editor For Dailymail.com and Associated Press
PUBLISHED: 11:08 EDT, 26 October 2017 UPDATED: 13:02 EDT, 26 October 2017

    


President Donald Trump endorsed the Republican candidate for governor of Virginia on Thursday, injecting the long-simmering issue of preserving statues of Confederate war heroes.
'Ed Gillespie will turn the really bad Virginia economy #'s around, and fast. Strong on crime, he might even save our great statues/heritage!' Trump tweeted.
He added a swipe at Gillespie's Democratic opponent Ralph Northam, saying that he 'doesn't even show up to meetings/work, and will be VERY weak on crime!'
The Gillespie campaign has branded the Democrat, Virginia's sitting lieutenant governor, 'No-show Northam' for his habit of skipping board meetings of the Virginia Economic Development Partnership.
Trump's decision to weigh in on the 'statues' and 'heritage' controversy threatens to reopen an embarrassing nationwide chapter in his short White House tenure.


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President Donald Trump endorsed Virginia gubernatorial candidate Ed Gillespie, saying the Republican 'might even save our great statues/heritage'


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Republican Ed Gillespie, left, is running against Democratic Lt. Gov. Ralph Northam, right



Trump's praise for Gillespie on crime and the economy will be lost in a sea of concern over his returning to the 'statue' issue
But in Virginia, where many roads and schools are still named after Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis, Trump's calculation could attract support for Gillespie from the same 'silent majority' that elected the president.

Gillespie is a former Republican Party chairman who came close to winning a U.S> Senate seat
In August a race riot broke out in Charlottesville, Virginia following a clash between Neo-Nazis and counter-protesters over a rally to save a Robert E. Lee statue from the wrecking ball.
A white supremacist later plowed his car into a crowd of anti-racist activists, killing one.
Trump later told reporters that there was violence on 'both sides,' drawing widespread condemnation for what some interpreted as willful blindness to virulent racism.
Northam, the Democrat, has prevailed in most polls this month. But the most recent Virginia survey, released this week by Hampton University, suddenly put Gillespie in the lead by 8 percentage points.


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Trump's mention of Virginia's 'heritage' and 'statues' is a reference to a move to tear down statues of Confederate generals in the South, like this Robert E. Lee statue


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Vice President Mike Pence campaigned for Gillespie in Abingdon, Virginia on October 14


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Former president Barack Obama campaigned for Ralph Northam in Richmond on October 19
Trump first jumped into the Virginia race with an attack on Northam last three weeks ago by explicitly linking him to violent gangs.
'Ralph Northam, who is running for Governor of Virginia, is fighting for the violent MS-13 killer gangs & sanctuary cities,' Trump tweeted. 'Vote Ed Gillespie!' 
The attack followed an early October poll showing Northam with a wide lead in the race, and links him to a violent street gang Trump has cited in his call for tighter immigration, branding members as 'animals' and 'thugs.'
Gillespie is the former lobbyist and Republican National Committee chair who came close to defeating Virginia Sen. Mark Warner.
Trump accused Northam of 'fighting' on behalf of violent MS-13 gang members.
There have been no indications that Northam actually supports the violent gang, which is headquartered in El Salvador and known for horrific attacks on rival gang members and informers, as well as trafficking and other crimes.


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Trump said earlier this month that Northam, the Democrat, has been 'fighting for' the violent MS-13 street gang
Gillespie, a consummate Washington insider, has sought to keep Trump at arm's length throughout the campaign while also trying to rally Trump supporters with hard-edged attacks on Northam over immigration. 
Gillespie was a former operative on Capitol Hill before he began his rise.
Northam responded on Twitter that he was expecting Trump's attack and asked supporters for donations.
Virginia is just one of two states electing governors this year, a swing state contest viewed as a possible referendum on Trump's first year in office.
MS-13 has become a target of Trump in seeking support for a broader immigration crackdown.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5020875/Trump-drags-Confederate-statue-fight-VA-governor-race.html#ixzz4we5RzjZd 
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Post by annemarie on Thu 26 Oct 2017, 23:11

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/us-politics/la-na-pol-gop-budget-taxcuts-20171026-story.html


[size=54]House Republicans pass GOP budget with $1.5-trillion deficit increase to fund Trump's tax cuts[/size]



President Trump at the Capitol with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Oct. 24. (J. Scott Applewhite / Associated Press)

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House Republicans on Thursday gave final approval to a 2018 GOP budget resolution, allowing for a $1.5-trillion deficit increase that sets the stage for President Trump’s tax cuts.
Republicans overcame internal divisions about the budget but must still resolve differences over the coming tax package, which is scheduled to be unveiled next week.

The largely party-line vote was 216-212, with 20 Republicans joining all Democrats to oppose.
“With this budget we have an opportunity to move forward on a major opportunity for the American people,” said Rep. Kevin Brady (R-Texas), the chairman of the Ways and Means Committee that is drafting the tax bill. “Real tax reform is on the way.”



Passage allows Congress to use special budget rules to approve the tax package on a simple majority vote, preventing Democratic opponents from blocking it with a filibuster in the Senate.
Many Republicans in the House, though, were upset that they were being asked to accept the Senate’s version of the budget, with the additional $1.5-trillion deficit, rather than their own resolution.
Some conservatives balked over the reality that Republicans who railed for years against deficits under President Obama now were accepting more red ink for the tax package.
“Conservative leaders would have slammed this Big-Government Budget under Pres. Obama. Now, they demand Republicans in Congress vote for it,” tweeted Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.). “2011-2016: Principles! 2017: End justifies the means.”



Some other Republicans voted against the budget to put pressure on House leaders to preserve the federal tax deduction for state and local taxes.
Half the Republican opponents represent districts in New York and New Jersey, where residents — like those in California — would be hard-hit by the proposal to limit state and local tax deductions. GOP leaders have been meeting privately with these lawmakers to gain their support. While no California Republicans opposed the budget, the local tax issue remains a key sticking point in the final tax bill.
The budget serves as a partisan blueprint of fiscal priorities for the federal government, but does not carry the force of law.
The president and the Republican leadership in Congress have argued that economic growth generated by the tax cuts will more than cover the costs.
Republicans are pushing to unveil the tax cuts package next week, promising to lower corporate and individual tax rates, but also do away with some deductions used by Americans who itemize their returns.
They are racing to pass the sweeping overhaul in the House by Thanksgiving and the Senate by year end, hoping to achieve a top GOP priority ahead of next year’s midterm election.
Critics say the tax package will primarily benefit corporations and wealthy individuals.
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-San Francisco) said the package is little more than the “trickle-down” economics of days past, “shaking down the middle class, ripping off the middle class.”
“They say, ‘Oh, it’ll pay for it.’ Never has. Never has,” she said. “It’s nonsense.”



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Post by LizzyNY on Thu 26 Oct 2017, 23:45

Trickle down economics only works for those at the top. Money doesn't trickle down, it rushes up and only on rare occasions do those at the bottom get to share the profits.
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Post by carolhathaway on Fri 27 Oct 2017, 23:20

I'd like to proof that there's chaos in politics in other countries, talking about Spain and Catalonia, a region who just declared its independence:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/a-day-of-fireworks-in-catalonia-both-spanish-and-catalan-parliaments-are-scheduled-to-convene/2017/10/27/09685d34-ba90-11e7-9b93-b97043e57a22_story.html?utm_term=.f351b87883f5


Caralonia finally declares independence — but Spain vows it won’t last long

By William Booth and Pamela Rolfe October 27 at 5:30 PM 

BARCELONA — Catalonia declared itself an independent republic on Friday. But nobody is sure how long it will last.

Within hours of Catalonia’s emotional vote, Spain’s prime minister announced he would dismantle the Catalan government, suspend its ministers, dissolve its upstart parliament, take over the regional police and call home any Catalan diplomats abroad.

The orders were effective immediately. In a Europe where change once took place at a glacial pace, this was the latest surprise in a continent rocked by division and upset, populism and nationalism.

But how the central government will enforce its orders is the question everyone is asking. Will the national police carry out the new order? Or will the separatist leaders in Barcelona step aside to fight another day?

The Spanish Senate gave the central government in Madrid unprecedented powers over Catalonia on Friday, sharply escalating the constitutional crisis.

Spain’s central government called for a clean slate and announced there would be regional elections in late December.

But how new elections will quiet yearnings for independence in Catalonia is unclear.


It is possible that more Catalans than ever now want to break away from heavy-handed Spain.

The no-nonsense announcement of the get-tough measures against Catalonia came just hours after the Catalan Parliament declared independence and the streets of Barcelona filled with celebrants, swilling cans of beer and sparkling wine, waving Catalan flags and greeting each other in partial amazement.

[Catalonia’s independence vote: What you need to know]

Many wept openly, including those old enough to remember the dictatorship of Francisco Franco, whose death in 1975 freed Spain to chart its modern course.

Others came out to taunt the National Police sent by Madrid. There was celebration — but mixed with anxious jokes about when Spanish tanks would appear to take back the streets.

The day’s news came fast and furious.

In Spain on Friday there were two historic and opposing votes — one for independence, one to restore constitutional rule — that came in dueling sessions of parliaments in Barcelona and Madrid.

The central government easily won permission from the senate to take control of Catalonia. Meanwhile, secessionists in Catalonia faced bitter recriminations from Catalan foes who called the move for nationhood a coup and a historic blunder, a month after a referendum that backed a split from Spain.

The widening impasse has left scant middle ground in Spain for compromise and has spilled over to the European Union, whoseleaders fear another internal crisis after major upheavals such asBritain’s exit from the bloc and the financial meltdown in Greece.

Immediately after the vote for independence, European Council President Donald Tusk tweeted: “For EU nothing changes. Spain remains our only interlocutor. I hope the Spanish government favours force of argument, not argument of force.”

Tusk’s remarks mirror fears in Catalonia that the Spanish government will employ riot police and harsh tactics to take back control of the region.

After the day’s votes, the Trump administration came down on the side of Madrid. “Catalonia is an integral part of Spain, and the United States supports the Spanish government’s constitutional measures to keep Spain strong and united,” the State Department said in a statement.

[The future of Catalonia may well hinge on an 84-word section of the 1978 Spanish Constitution]

What happens now is unclear, though the newly declared republic will struggle to assert itself. Spain’s Constitutional Court will judge the unilateral assertion of independence illegal, and few countries in Europe have shown any willingness to recognize an independent Catalonia.

In the Catalan Parliament. there was plenty of evidence of another lopsided and clumsy vote. The final ballot was 70 to 10 in favor of the declaration of independence, but 55 deputies declined to vote, underlining the deep divisions.

“We have won the freedom to build a new country,” Catalonia’s regional vice president, Oriol Junqueras, tweeted.

Encarna Buitrago was with her friends in a flag-waving crowd in front of the parliament in Barcelona when independence was declared.

“Now we need to support our Catalan government. To go out to the streets! And now it’s up to the people,” said Buitrago, a pensioner. “If we are all together, we can do it.”

But quickly afterward, Spain’s Senate invoked the never-before-used Article 155 of Spain’s 1978 constitution, which grants the government full powers to take over Catalonia.

Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy told the Senate that his government had repeatedly tried to rein in the secessionists in Catalonia. He scoffed at Catalan President Carles Puigdemont’s offers of “dialogue” to end the impasse.


Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy is applauded as he arrives for the Senate's extraordinary plenary session. (Chema Moya/EPA-EFE/REX/Shutterstock)

“The word dialogue is a lovely word. It creates good feelings,” Rajoy said. “But dialogue has two enemies: those who abuse, ignore and forget the laws, and those who only want to listen to themselves, who do not want to understand the other party.”

Rajoy urged the Senate to approve Article 155 “to prevent Catalonia from being abused.”

“Catalans must be protected from an intolerant minority that is awarding itself ownership of Catalonia, and is trying to subject all Catalans to the yoke of its own doctrine,” the prime minister said.

Other Spanish political parties also spoke out against Catalonia’s declaration.

Pedro Sanchez, leader of Spain’s Socialist party, said despite his disagreements with Rajoy’s government, “faced with the challenge of territorial integrity of Spain, there can be no nuance. Spain without Catalonia and vice versa is a mutilated Spain and Catalonia.”

[Whatever happens in Catalonia, anger with Spain is a sign of things to come]

In Barcelona, shouts of “Independence!” and “Democracy!” rose from an antechamber where hundreds of onlookers, including dozens of regional mayors, had gathered.

The eruption was answered by disdain from anti-secessionists in the chamber. A member of the Catalan Socialist Party, Daniel Fernández, asked: “What is this? The storming of the Bastille?”


People wave Catalan separatist flags as they gather at Sant Jaume square in Barcelona on Friday. (Juan Medina/Reuters)

Pablo Iglesias, the leader of the left-wing national party Podemos, who defended Catalonia’s right to vote, added his voice to those criticizing Catalonia’s separatists.

“We are against the declaration of independence, not just because it is illegal, but because it is illegitimate,” he said. The Oct. 1 referendum was important “but doesn’t give them the right to declare independence,” Iglesias told journalists.

As for the invocation of Article 155, Iglesias said its coming implementation “will break one of the pillars of our living together.”

Carlos Carrizosa of the Citizens party decried the prospect of a declaration of independence, comparing it to a coup. He pointed at Puigdemont and said: “You, president, have been pro-independence your whole life. This whole plan was already laid out.”


Demonstrators celebrate Catalonia’s declaration of independence outside the Catalan Parliament in Barcelona. (Emilio Morenatti/AP)

“This movement is textbook populism, full of magical thinking, that reality has destroyed. You are willing to sacrifice all, for your pure fanaticism,” said Alejandro Fernández, a Catalan lawmaker whose Popular Party is also running the central government.

More than 2 million people cast ballots earlier this month for independence, though the turnout for the referendum was around 43 percent of eligible voters, according to a count by the separatists.

During the vote, Spanish national police and Guardia Civil paramilitary officers used harsh tactics, in some cases beating voters with rubber batons and dragging people away from the ballot boxes.

The president of Spain’s Basque region, Inigo Urkullu, a key intermediary between Rajoy and Puigdemont, described the situation in Catalonia as “very worrying” and required “responsibility on the two sides.”

Rolfe reported from Madrid. Raul Gallego Abellan contributed to this report.
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Post by annemarie on Fri 27 Oct 2017, 23:53

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5025277/Utah-senator-Trump-shrinking-2-national-monuments-Utah.html

Trump SHRINKS two national monuments that cover more than 3.6 million acres in Utah and were protected by Democratic presidents

  • Utah Senator Orrin Hatch said that Trump called him Friday to approve shrinking two national monuments protected by Democratic presidents

  • Trump will follow Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke's recommendation to reduce the size of Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante national monuments

  • Conservation groups and tribes have vowed to file lawsuits if Trump attempts to rescind or reduce the monument designations


By Mollie Cahillane For Dailymail.com and Associated Press
PUBLISHED: 14:45 EDT, 27 October 2017 UPDATED: 17:32 EDT, 27 October 2017

    



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Donald Trump is shrinking two national monuments in Utah, accepting the recommendation of Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke to reverse protections established by two Democratic presidents, a Republican senator said Friday.
Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch said he was 'incredibly grateful' that Trump called him on Friday to say he is approving Zinke's proposal on Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante national monuments. 
He and Trump 'believe in the importance of protecting these sacred antiquities,' but said there is 'a better way to do it' by working with local officials and tribes, Hatch said.
Hatch's office said Trump called the senator and said, 'I'm approving the Bears Ears and Grand Staircase recommendation for you, Orrin.'
Zinke recommended in September that the two Utah monuments be shrunk, along with Nevada's Gold Butte and Oregon's Cascade-Siskiyou.
The two Utah monuments encompass more than 3.6 million acres - an area larger than Connecticut - and were created by Democratic administrations under a century-old law that allows presidents to protect sites considered historic, geographically or culturally important.


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Bears Ears, designated for federal protection by former President Barack Obama, totals 1.3 million acres in southeastern Utah on land that is sacred to Native Americans and home to tens of thousands of archaeological sites, including ancient cliff dwellings. 
Grand Staircase-Escalante, in southern Utah, includes nearly 1.9 million acres in a sweeping vista larger than the state of Delaware. 
Republicans have howled over the monument designation since its creation in 1996 by former President Bill Clinton.
Conservation groups and tribes have vowed to file lawsuits if Trump attempts to rescind or reduce the monument designations.
A poll conducted by The Salt Lake Tribune found that a slight majority of people from Utah believed the Bears Ears National Monument to be too big. 


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A poll found that Utahns opposed by a two to one margin that breaking up the older and larger Grand Staircase-Escalante into smaller monuments
However, Utahns opposed by a two to one margin that breaking up the older and larger Grand Staircase-Escalante into smaller monuments.
Trump asked for the review this spring following complaints by Hatch and other Republicans that the 1906 Antiquities Act had been misused to create oversized monuments that hinder energy development, logging and other uses. 
The review included sweeping sites mostly in the West that are home to ancient cliff dwellings, towering sequoia trees, deep canyons or ocean habitats roamed by seals, whales and sea turtles.
National monument designations add protections for lands revered for their natural beauty and historical significance with the goal of preserving them for future generations. 
The restrictions aren't as stringent as national parks, but some policies include limits on mining, timber cutting and recreational activities such as riding off-road vehicles.
No president has tried to eliminate a monument, but they have trimmed and redrawn boundaries 18 times, according to the National Park Service, 
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Post by annemarie on Sat 28 Oct 2017, 03:52

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5026013/White-House-claims-Trump-sexual-harassment-accusers-lie.html

White House says all the women who accused Trump of sexual assault are LIARS: Press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders says the administration's position is 'clear' after the president branded the claims 'fake news'

  • Donald Trump has branded the women who have accused him of sexual harassment of lying

  • He said on October 16: 'It's totally fake news. It's fake and made-up stuff and it's disgraceful what happens, but that happens in the world of politics'

  • White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders answered a question about the allegations at today's press briefing

  • She said: 'We've been clear on that in the beginning, and the President's spoken on that'


By Forrest Hanson and Geoff Earle, Depty U.s. Political Editor For Dailymail.com
PUBLISHED: 20:46 EDT, 27 October 2017 UPDATED: 21:01 EDT, 27 October 2017

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The White House has once again refuted claims by more than a dozen women who have accused Donald Trump of sexual harassment and accused them of lying.
In response to a question at today's press briefing about whether the women are lying, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said: 'We've been clear on that in the beginning, and the President's spoken on that,' CNN reports.
Sanders' response comes after Trump fielded a question about sexual harassment claims on Monday, October 16.  He branded them as 'totally fake news'.


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White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders was asked at today's press briefing about sexual harassment allegations against Donald Trump. She said: 'We've been clear on that in the beginning, and the President's spoken on that' 


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Sanders' comment follows Trump's own assertion on October 16 that the claims from more than a dozen women are 'totally fake news' 


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Summer Zervos, a 2007 'Apprentive' contestant, obtained a subpoena two weeks ago that seeks ''all documents concerning any woman who asserted that Donald J. Trump touched her inappropriately'. Zervos says that Trump made unwanted sexual advances toward her in 2007. She alleges that he touched her on the breast
Trump was asked about the claims following a weekend revelation that attorneys representing Summer Zervos, a 2007 'Apprentice' contestant, had obtained a subpoena ordering the Trump campaign to hand over any documents it had related to Zervos.
The subpoena seeks 'all documents concerning any woman who asserted that Donald J. Trump touched her inappropriately'.
'All I can say is it's totally fake news. It's fake and made-up stuff and it's disgraceful what happens, but that happens in the world of politics,' Trump told reporters at the White House.

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The subpoena also seeks documents on 'any accusations' made during Trump's election campaign that he 'subjected any woman to unwanted sexual touching and/or sexually inappropriate behavior,' and on the president's responses to allegations against him.
The subpoena, which previously not been made public, was first reported by BuzzFeed News.
Zervos said last year that Trump had made unwanted sexual advances toward her when she met him at the Beverly Hills Hotel in Los Angeles in 2007 to discuss career opportunities.


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Trump has said of the claims: It's fake and made-up stuff and it's disgraceful what happens, but that happens in the world of politics'
Trump moved toward her aggressively during the encounter and touched her on the breast but she rebuffed him, she alleged.
Zervos and several other women who made similar allegations came forward after a 2005 videotape of Trump bragging about groping women surfaced in early October.
The president-elect claimed his comments on the tape were 'locker-room' banter, and denounced the sexual harassment allegations as lies and fabricated stories.
According to Zervos' suit, 'Mr Trump became obsessed with calling Ms Zervos and any other woman who came forward to report his abuse liars with improper motives.'
Trump is a 'liar and misogynist' who has 'debased and denigrated Zervos with false statements about her,' the lawsuit says.
The subpoena also calls for all of his campaign documents related to the shocking tape and to his numerous denials of the accusations that were lodged against him during that time period.
Trump said on Twitter and in public statements last October that all of the women were pushing 'false allegations and outright lies' in an effort to help elect Hillary Clinton as president.
He even suggested that some of the women were not attractive enough for him to target and threatened a lawsuit against them all.
'All of these liars will be sued after the election is over,' Trump said at a Gettysburg, Pennsylvania rally a few weeks before the election.
The president's attorneys have been working to get the lawsuit dismissed or even delayed until he leaves office. 

TIMELINE: WHEN DONALD TRUMP HAS BEEN ACCUSED OF ASSAULT, GROPING OR LEWD BEHAVIOR 


1980 - Jessica Leeds 

Jessica Leeds
Jessica Leeds, a 74-year-old former businesswoman who lives in Manhattan, told the New York Times on Wednesday she was 'assaulted' by Trump on a flight when she was 38.
Leeds explained how she was sat beside Trump in first class on a flight, when the Republican nominee lifted the arm-rest between then and allegedly began touching her. 
'He was like an octopus,' she told the Times. 'His hands were everywhere.'

1989 - Ivana Trump
The Donald's first wife claimed she was 'violated' by him after a violent attack, documents filed as part of the couple's divorce claimed, according to the Daily Beast.
Ivana distanced herself from the claims last year when Trump started his campaign.
Early 1990s - Kristin Anderson 

Kristin Anderson
Kristin Anderson was out with friends, chatting up a storm at a Manhattan nightspot, when she felt fingers creep up her miniskirt, slide up her inner thigh and then touch her vagina through her panties.
The man who touched her was none other than Donald Trump, Anderson - now 46 - told theWashington Post.
She said the incident took place in the early 1990s, when she was in her early twenties and an aspiring model.

 
 1993 - Jill Harth

Jill Harth
Jill Harth, a makeup artist, accused Trump of 'attempted rape' stemming from an incident in 1993. 
Harth told the Guardian the incident in question took place during a visit to Trump's Mar-a-Lago mansion in January of that year.
'He pushed me up against the wall, and had his hands all over me and tried to get up my dress again,' she told the newspaper. 'I had to physically say: 'What are you doing? Stop it.''  
 
 
1993 - Vendela Kirsebom

Vendela Kirsebom
Former supermodel Vendela Kirsebom exclusively told DailyMail.com that Donald Trump's 'vulgar' and 'sexist' remarks about the size of women's breasts forced her to switch tables at a White House dinner party.
The sports Illustrated cover model claims her night at a 1993 Vanity Fair event was ruined because she was sat next to the billionaire.
Recalling the 'excruciating' night, Kirsebom, 49, said: 'Everything he said was so vulgar.
'I couldn't listen to his nonsense for an entire night so I asked if I could be moved.'
1996 - Lisa Boyne

Lisa Boyne
Lisa Boyne, CEO of a health food company, claims that in the summer of 1996 she saw Trump make a series of women walk up and down a restaurant table so that he could announce whether they were wearing underwear.
'It was the most offensive scene I've ever been a part of,' she told The Huffington Post Thursday. 'I wanted to get the heck out of there.'
According to Boyne, she and friend Sonja Tremont - better known today as Sonja Morgan of 'Real Housewives of New York' - had been invited to dinner in Manhattan with Trump and late modelling agent John Casablancas.


1997 - Four Miss Teen USA contestants

Mariah Billado
Mariah Billado and three other contestants claimed to Buzzfeed that Trump walked into dressing rooms prior to the pageant while competitors were naked.
'I remember putting on my dress really quick because I was like, 'Oh my god, there's a man in here'.' 
Bilado told the website, before adding Trump said something like: 'Don't worry, ladies, I've seen it all before'.
1997 - Miss USA contestant Temple Taggart

Temple Taggart
Temple Taggart, a former Miss Utah, told the New York Times earlier this year that Trump kissed her on the lips during the pageant.
'I thought, 'Oh my God, gross'... I think there were a few other girls that he kissed on the mouth. I was like 'Wow, that's inappropriate',' she told the newspaper.
Taggart has also sat down for an interview with NBC News.
'When I first heard the leaked tape, it's very unsettling... you don't want to hear anyone talking about women like that,' she said in a promotion clip for the interview.
1997 - Cathy Heller 
Cathy Heller, now 63, claims the billionaire kissed her on the mouth without her consent in 1997 while she attended a Mother's Day luncheon with her family at Trump's Mar-a-Lago club in Palm Beach, Florida.
She told The Guardian on Saturday: 'He took my hand, and grabbed me, and went for the lips,' she said. 
She claims she held back but he persevered. 'And he said, ‘Oh, come on.’ He was strong. He grabbed me and went for my mouth and went for my lips.' 
Trump denied the accusation, claiming she was motivated by a personal vendetta to have her family's membership fees reimbursed. 
2000 - Miss USA contestant Bridget Sullivan

Bridget Sullivan
Bridget Sullivan told Buzzfeed earlier this year that the then-owner of the pageant walked through the backstage area to wish contestants good luck, despite the fact many of them were naked at the time.
'The time that he walked through the dressing rooms was really shocking. We were all naked,' Sullivan said.
She went on to describe Trump as a 'creepy uncle', saying he would 'hug you just a little low on your back.' 
Buzzfeed spoke  with four other contestants from that year - none whom remembered Trump walking through the dressing room when contestants were naked. 
2001 - Miss USA contestant Tasha Dixon

Tasha Dixon
Tasha Dixon told CBS News earlier this year walked into the changing rooms at the pageant without warning, meaning many of the competitors were naked or not fully dressed.
'Our first introduction to him was when we were at the dress rehearsal and half naked changing into our bikinis,' Dixon said in an interview. 'He just came strolling right in. 
'There was no second to put a robe on or any sort of clothing or anything. Some girls were topless. Other girls were naked.'
2003 - Mindy McGillivray

Mindy McGillivray
Mindy McGillivray, 36, told the Palm Beach Post that Trump grabbed her backside after she helped a photographer who was covering a concert at Trump's Mar-a-Lago mansion. 
McGillivray, who was 23 at the time, said she was with Ken Davidoff at the Mar-a-Lago on January 24, 2003.
'All of a sudden I felt a grab, a little nudge. I think it's Ken's camera bag, that was my first instinct,' she told the newspaper. 
'I turn around and there's Donald. He sort of looked away quickly.'
2004 - Trump discussed what he thought it would be like to have  sex with a teenage Lindsay Lohan on the Howard Stern Show

Trump discussed what it would be like to have sex with a teenage Lindsay Lohan (pictured)
'She's probably deeply troubled and therefore great in bed,' Trump told Stern when asked by the shock jock if he could imagine bedding 'troubled teen' Lindsay Lohan.
Trump went on to say: 'How come the deeply troubled women, you know, deeply, deeply troubled, they're always the best in bed?'
At the time of the interview, Lohan was just 18-years-old. Trump was 58.
The conversation continued with Trump speaking about a friend he described as 'a great Playboy' and who he said only wants to date 'crazy' women. 
2005 - Rachel Crooks

Rachel Crooks
Rachel Crooks was a 22-year-old working as a receptionist at Bayrock Group, a real estate company based in Trump Tower in Manhattan, when she says Trump kissed her on the mouth without permission while in an elevator in 2005.
'It was so inappropriate,' Ms. Crooks told the New York Times. 'I was so upset that he thought I was so insignificant that he could do that.'
Crooks told the newspaper the incident took place after she shook hands with Trump in an elevator and he allegedly refused to let go. She says he then began kissing her on the cheeks, before then kissing her lips.
2005 - Donald Trump admits he would 'inspect' pageant contestants backstage
Donald Trump bragged about the extra power he had during an interview with Howard Stern in April 2005, the tapes of which have been released by CNN.
'I'll tell you the funniest is that I'll go backstage before a show and everyone's getting dressed,' Trump said about the pageant.
'No men are anywhere, and I'm allowed to go in, because I'm the owner of the pageant and therefore I'm inspecting it…. 'Is everyone OK'? You know, they're standing there with no clothes. 'Is everybody OK?'
'And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.'
2005 - Trump brags about being able to grope women without consent to Billy Bush on the set of Access Hollywood
'You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful - I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait,' he was heard saying to Billy Bush on the set of Access Hollywood in 2005 in a recording published by the Washington Post last Friday.
'And when you're a star they let you do it.  You can do anything. Grab them by the p****. You can do anything.' 
2005 - Natasha Stoynoff 


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Natasha Stoynoff
Natasha Stoynoff recounted how she had traveled to Mar-a-Largo to interview Trump and his wife, Melania, in December 2005. 
She said Donald took her into a room he really wanted to see, before forcing himself on her.
'We walked into that room alone, and Trump shut the door behind us. I turned around, and within seconds, he was pushing me against the wall, and forcing his tongue down my throat,' she wrote for People.
Stoynoff went on to say how she was rescued when a butler walked in, however when the two were alone again shortly after Trump told her they were 'going to have an affair'. 
2007 - Summer Zervos - contestant on The Apprentice


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Summer Zervos
Summer Zervos, who was a contestant on the fifth season of The Apprentice, said Trump groped and kissed her in his room at the Beverly Hills Hotel in 2007.
She claims that she reached out to Trump a year after she left the show to speak about possible business opportunities, and when she met with him he kissed her 'open mouthed' multiple times, and at one point placed his hand on her breast.
She claims he then had her lie in bed with him she said telling her he wanted to watch 'telly telly', but soon after began 'thrusting his genitals' at her despite her pleas asking him to stop.
Zervos broke down in tears throughout press conference, saying at one point: 'You do not have the right to treat women as sexual objects just because you are a star.'
2009 -  Called Khloe Kardashian 'a fat piglet' 
Trump made rude and offensive comments about Khloe Kardashian's physical appearance and weight while she filmed Celebrity Apprentice back in 2009, according to multiple people who worked on the set.
'He said: 'Why don't we fire Khloe? She is a fat piglet. Why did we get the ugly Kardashian?'' a source told Huffington Post
2010 - Friend of CNN anchor Erin Burnett
Erin Burnett detailed an encounter that a friend had with Trump in March 2010 in the boardroom at Trump Tower, when he allegedly tried to kiss her without permission. 
The woman told Burnett, according to CNN: 'Trump took Tic Tacs, suggested I take them also. He then leaned in, catching me off guard, and kissed me almost on lips. I was really freaked out. 
'After (the meeting), Trump asked me to come into his office alone. Was really unsure what to do. ... Figured I could handle myself. Anyway, once in his office he kept telling me how special I am and gave me his cell, asked me to call him. I ran the hell out of there.'
2013 - Miss USA contestant Cassandra Searles

Cassandra Searles
Searles, who won Miss Washington in 2013, said Trump tried to seduce her, groped her, and treated the women in the pageant 'like cattle', according to Yahoo News.
'Do y'all remember that one time we had to do our onstage introductions, but this one guy treated us like cattle and made us do it again because we didn't look him in the eyes?' she wrote in June. 
'Do you also remember when he then proceeded to have us lined up so he could get a closer look at his property?
'Oh I forgot to mention that guy will be in the running to become the next President of the United States.'
She then added: 'He probably doesn't want me telling the story about that time he continually grabbed my a** and invited me to his hotel room.' 


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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5026067/First-criminal-charges-filed-Russian-probe.html

First criminal charges 'have been filed' in Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian's meddling in the general election

  • The charges have been ordered sealed by a federal judge in Washington DC

  • The nature of the charges remains unclear along with who they target

  • Law enforcement officials have been notified to be on ready to make arrests as early as Monday 

  • White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders said that the administration is confidant the Mueller investigation will soon come to a close 


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PUBLISHED: 21:05 EDT, 27 October 2017 UPDATED: 22:47 EDT, 27 October 2017

    





The charges have been ordered sealed by a federal judge in Washington DC after they were approved by a grand jury on Friday
The first charges have been filed in special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election, a report by CNN suggests.  
A federal judge in Washington DC ordered the charges to remain sealed. It remains unclear what the nature of the charges might be. 
Law enforcement officials were notified to be prepared to take individuals mentioned in the documents into custody as early as Monday, according to CNN. 
A spokesperson for the special counsel's office declined to comment on the matter. 
Mueller was appointed to lead the investigation into possible Russian meddling in the 2016 general election in May. 
Meanwhile, the White House appeared confident that Mueller's investigation would soon be drawing to close, saying it was President Donald Trump's Democratic opponent that should be worried. 
'If anyone was colluding with the Russians to influence the election, look no further than the (Bill and Hillary Clinton) and the DNC,' White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders told Fox News. 



Law enforcement officials have been notified to be on ready to make arrests as early as Monday
'Everything that the Clinton campaign and the DNC were falsely accusing this president of doing over the past year they were actually doing themselves, it turns out,' she added. 
Sanders earlier said during a White House press briefing that media attention and money spent investigating the matter is a 'waste.'
'Your news organizations have actually spent probably a lot of money on this...we would consider probably a pretty big waste,' Sanders told reporters. 
Mueller was appointed to the special counsel position following Trump's abrupt firing of FBI chief James Comey, tasked with finding out if the Trump campaign colluded with the Russian government to gain an advantage during the campaign. 
Mueller, Comey's predecessor at the FBI, is also looking into possible obstruction of justice charges against the president, who may have tried to hamper the investigation. 


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Sanders earlier said during a White House press briefing that media attention and money spent investigating the matter is a waste
One of Trump's closest associates during the election was former campaign chairman Paul Manafort, who since the election has come under a deluge of scrutiny. 
Investigators with the Mueller investigation have been interested in Manfort's possible ties to wealthy Russian figures close to the Kremlin since reports surfaced of his involvement with Ukrainian politics over the past several years. 

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A company owned by Oleg Deripaska, an aluminium magnate thought to have close ties to the government of President Vladimir Putin, gave a $26million loan to entities linked to Manafort, according to NBC News.  
The report cited financial documents filed in Cyprus and the Cayman Islands – two countries that have poor reputations as havens of money laundering.
The revelation means that in the past decade, Manafort and Deripaska have concluded close to $60million worth of business dealings that are now drawing scrutiny from federal investigators.



It remains unclear if Manafort or Flynn have been charged in Friday's filing with the grand jury


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Roger Stone (Pictured July 2017), a long-time Trump associate, said he spoke with Manafort at 5pm on Friday, saying that the former campaign manager 'knew nothing' of Mueller's charges
In August 2016, Manafort stepped down as head of Trump's campaign after reports surfaced of alleged shady financial dealings. 
Roger Stone, a long-time Trump associate, said he spoke with Manafort at 5pm on Friday, saying that the former campaign manager 'knew nothing' of Mueller's charges being approved by the grand jury, according to Huffington Post.  
Former National Security Adviser for the Trump administration, Micheal Flynn, has also come under intense scrutiny since his unceremonious ouster from the White House in January. 
Forced from government service into retirement in 2014 by the Obama administration, Flynn went on to set up a company that accepted speaking fees from Russian entities and later did consulting work for a Turkish-owned business.
He joined the Trump campaign and then the administration, but the Trump White House ousted him after saying he mischaracterized conversations with Russia's ambassador to the U.S.
A wide range of his actions - including foreign contracts and payments, and whether he lied to officials - are under scrutiny by investigators. 
It remains unclear if Manafort or Flynn have been charged in Friday's filing with the grand jury.   


 

 
 
 



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