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Post by annemarie on Tue 10 Oct 2017, 14:07

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[size=37]Donald Trump Threatens to Cut NFL Tax Breaks If Players Continue to Kneel for National Anthem[/size]


POSTED ON OCTOBER 10, 2017 AT 8:12AM EDT


More Than 100 NFL Players Kneel During Anthem in Defiance of President Trump
NFL players used the national anthem to show their defiance to President Donald Trump's criticism, with at least 100 players kneeling or sitting in protest and one team staying in the locker room





President Donald Trump is threatening to take away tax breaks for the NFL amid the continued national anthem protests that have swept the sport.
“Why is the NFL getting massive tax breaks while at the same time disrespecting our Anthem, Flag and Country?” he wrote early Tuesday morning. “Change tax law!”



The NFL voluntarily gave up its tax-exempt status in 2015, according to Politico. However, taxpayer dollars are used for new stadiums and facilities.
The president also took aim at ESPN anchor Jemele Hill, after the network suspended her for calling for a boycott of Dallas Cowboys sponsors over owner Jerry Jones’ decision to punish players who don’t stand for the anthem.
“With Jemele Hill at the mike, it is no wonder ESPN ratings have ‘tanked,’ in fact, tanked so badly it is the talk of the industry!” Trump said.




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On Sunday, Vice President  Mike Pence walked out of an Indianapolis Colts game against the San Francisco 49ers after players knelt during the national anthem.
“I left today’s Colts game because @POTUS and I will not dignify any event that disrespects our soldiers, our Flag, or our National Anthem,” the vice president wrote.
“At a time when so many Americans are inspiring our nation with their courage, resolve, and resilience…now, more than ever, we should rally around our Flag and everything that unites us,” he continued. “While everyone is entitled to their own opinions, I don’t think it’s too much to ask NFL players to respect the Flag and our National Anthem.”


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President Trump revealed that he had told Pence to leave the game if any players knelt during the national anthem.



During a rally speech in Alabama last month, Trump stated, “Wouldn’t you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, say, ‘Get that son of a bitch off the field right now. Out, you’re fired.’ ”
He followed the comment up by pouring more gasoline on the fire with a series of tweets. “If a player wants the privilege of making millions of dollars in the NFL, or other leagues, he or she should not be allowed to disrespect…our Great American Flag (or Country) and should stand for the National Anthem,” he wrote. “If not, YOU’RE FIRED. Find something else to do!”
In the weeks since, multiple NFL teams have made statements by kneeling, locking arms or staying in the locker room during the playing of the anthem as a message of protest against Trump’s comments.
In August 2016, former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick made headlines — and sparked a movement — when he took a knee during the national anthem.
“I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color,” Kaepernick said at the time. “To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder.”


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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by Donnamarie on Tue 10 Oct 2017, 14:36

This is an authoritarian in the making ... that's what I see. facepalm
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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by LizzyNY on Tue 10 Oct 2017, 15:22

IMO Trump's attitude is the exact reason to "take a knee" during the anthem. He's using threats to get people to do what he wants - and he's using this whole issue to distract from the destructive things he's doing behind our backs. Lin Manuel Miranda was right!
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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by Donnamarie on Tue 10 Oct 2017, 18:47

So true Lizzy.  And this stunt that Pence  pulled on Sunday at the Colts football game and the continuous harping on the issue by Trump will only provoke more players to continue to take a knee.  They will not stand down to Trump.  This issue will become something other than what is was originally meant to be .... standing up for equal justice for blacks.


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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by annemarie on Tue 10 Oct 2017, 21:27

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4966484/Trump-issue-exec-order-healthcare-GOP-failure.html




[size=34]Trump will issue an executive order allowing Americans to purchase healthcare across state lines after frustration with Republican failure to repeal and replace
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  • Trump is taking executive action to assist consumers who live in states where Obamacare has either gone belly up or premiums skyrocketed

  • 'With Congress the way it is, I decided to take it upon myself,' Trump said Tuesday. 'So we'll be announcing that soon'

  •  Republican lawmakers like Rand Paul and Ted Cruz have long plugged the plan as a way to increase consumer choice and lower costs

  • They wanted to include it in repeal and replace legislation, but that would have run afoul of the Senate rule the GOP was relying on as a vehicle for their reforms



By FRANCESCA CHAMBERS, WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 12:44 EDT, 10 October 2017 | UPDATED: 15:18 EDT, 10 October 2017


    

President Donald Trump intends to sign an executive order allowing consumers to purchase health plans sold in other states.
'They'll be able to cross state lines. And they will get great competitive healthcare, and it will cost the United States nothing,' Trump told reporters on Tuesday morning. 'Take care of a big percentage of the people that we're talking about, too,' he said.
Trump is taking the executive action to assist consumers who live in states where Obamacare has either gone belly up or premiums skyrocketed.
'With Congress the way it is, I decided to take it upon myself,' he announced. 'So we'll be announcing that soon, as far as the singing is concerned, but it's largely worked out.'
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President Donald Trump intends to sign an executive order allowing consumers to purchase health plans sold in other states

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Republican lawmakers like Rand Paul and Ted Cruz have long plugged the plan as a way to increase consumer choice and lower costs. They wanted to include it in repeal and replace legislation, but that would have run afoul of the Senate rule they were relying on as a vehicle for their proposed reforms.
Trump said he last month that he may loosen a restriction on where insurance plans can be sold through fiat. He previewed the move again in a Tuesday morning tweet that said, 'Since Congress can't get its act together on HealthCare, I will be using the power of the pen to give great HealthCare to many people - FAST'.
Paul said weeks ago, on the heels of the Senate's last Obamacare repeal failure, that Trump would be taking action in the near term.
'I think there's going to be big news from the White House in the next week or two, something they can do on their own,' he told MSNBC in a Sept. 27 interview.
The Kentucky Republican added, 'I believe that President Trump can legalize on his own the ability of individuals to join a group or a health association across state lines and buy insurance.'
That same day Trump affirmed his interest in an executive action that encompasses Paul's proposal.  
The president told reporters, 'I am considering an executive order on associations and that will take care of a tremendous number of people with regard to healthcare, and I'll probably be signing a very major executive order where people can go out, cross state lines, do lots of things and buy their own healthcare.'
Trump has long said that he would sign an order freeing up consumers to purchase health care from providers outside the state they reside in. It was billed as part two of his administration's three-step Obamacare repeal plan.

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Trump confirmed his intention to sign the measure easing health insurance regulations at the top of a meeting with Henry Kissinger, a secretary of state to two previous presidents
The administration argued earlier this year that it could not ease regulations like this one until the House and Senate passed Obamacare repeal.
Procedural rules in the Senate prevented the measure from being inserted directly into a healthcare bill because lawmakers were relying on a process called reconciliation that applies only to budgetary items. 
Through reconciliation, the GOP could use its simple majority to pass a repeal bill. The party was ultimately unable to swing enough senators its way before an end-of-September deadline.
As lawmakers like Paul argued that the measure should be in the GOP's legislation, regardless of the rules, Trump said in a tweet, 'Don’t worry, getting rid of state lines … will be in phase 2 & 3 of healthcare rollout.'
The executive order Trump says he will soon sign may help him win over lawmakers like Paul who will make or break a future health reform vote.
'I think Rand will be there for us,' Trump recently told reporters. 
Trump envisions a new vote to repeal and replace Obamacare at the beginning of next year. Vice President Mike Pence has promised reforms by the end of next year.
The president has said that he's talking to Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer about a short-term fix to Obamacare, also. 
'We're going to have to do something with Obamacare because it's failing,' Trump said Tuesday. 'And it's actually getting worse; it's getting worse by the minute. So we're going to have to do something with Obamacare and that will work out.'

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Post by annemarie on Thu 12 Oct 2017, 18:00

http://people.com/politics/president-trump-threatens-abandon-puerto-rico-hurricane-twitter-reaction/


[size=37]President Trump Slammed for Saying He Can’t Help Hurricane-Ravaged Puerto Rico ‘Forever’[/size]


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President Donald Trump faced immediate backlash after he criticized hurricane-ravaged Puerto Rico and warned the U.S. territory that federal aid workers cannot stay there “forever.”
In a series of tweets on Thursday morning, Trump quoted conservative television journalist Sharyl Attkisson as he blamed the island for a financial crisis “largely of their own making” and infrastructure that was a “disaster” before Hurricane Maria struck on Sept. 20.
“We cannot keep FEMA, the Military & the First Responders, who have been amazing (under the most difficult circumstances) in P.R. forever!” the president said.
He also accused Puerto Rico officials of a “total lack of accountability” in their response to Hurricane Maria, which has killed at least 45 people and left about 85 percent of Puerto Rico residents still without electricity.




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The comments sparked overwhelming outrage on Twitter, where critics called the president “racist,” “inhumane” and a “heartless monster.”


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Trump warns Puerto Rico: ‘We cannot keep FEMA, the Military & the First Responders . . . forever!’



A series a tweets marked the latest jab at Puerto Rico since it was devastated by Hurricane Maria.
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Trump warns Puerto Rico: ‘We cannot keep FEMA, the Military & the First Responders . . . forever!’



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The House is poised to approve on Thursday a $36 billion disaster aid package, $16 billion of which would go toward flood insurance claims and emergency funding to help Puerto Rico.



Trump has repeatedly criticized Puerto Rico and its officials who have been pleading for aid in the wake of the hurricane. On Sept. 30, he lashed out at San Juan Mayor Carmen Yulín Cruz on Twitter, blasting her “poor leadership ability.”
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Hamilton creator Lin-Manuel Miranda did not mince words when he came to Cruz’s defense, telling Trump on Twitter: “You’re going straight to hell.”
In a new interview with PGI.org this week, Cruz said she doesn’t “give a s–t” about Trump’s attacks on her and added: “This isn’t about me or politics. I’m not going to be the face you see out there just giving you a box of food for the photo op. I’m the face of the person who is going to make sure somebody gets that to you … so like the last scene of Gone With the Wind — ‘Frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn.’ ”
On Thursday, Cruz criticized the president again in a statement shared to media outlets including CBS and NBC News.



“Tweet away your hate to mask your administration’s mishandling of this humanitarian crisis. While you are amusing yourself throwing paper towels at us, your compatriots and the world are sending love and help our way,” she wrote in a message shared by CBS News correspondent David Begnaud on Twitter.
“Help us,” she implored. “Without robust and consistent help we will die.”

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Post by annemarie on Fri 13 Oct 2017, 11:38

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4976190/White-House-says-lawfully-pay-Obamacare-subsidies.html

[size=34]Trump to end subsidy payments to Obamacare insurers in a move derided by Democrats as 'spiteful act of vast, pointless sabotage'[/size]

  • Trump announced late Thursday the government will stop subsidy payments to insurers who sell Obamacare 

  • The White House said these payments are 'unlawful' despite being a key part of the Affordable Care Act  

  • Halting these payments could be a critical blow to the hallmark Obama law

  • Pelosi and Schumer quickly slammed the decision as 'spiteful' and 'pointeless'


By ABIGAIL MILLER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM and REUTERS
PUBLISHED: 23:15 EDT, 12 October 2017 | UPDATED: 00:50 EDT, 13 October 2017

    

The White House announced late Thursday night that it will stop subsidy payments to insurers who sell coverage under Obamacare - prompting howls of protest from Democrat lawmakers. 
The Trump administration said that based on guidance from the Justice Department, 'the Department of Health and Human Services has concluded that there is no appropriation for cost-sharing reduction payments to insurance companies under Obamacare.'
In a statement Thursday night House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi and Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer slammed the decision as a 'spiteful act of vast, pointless sabotage.' 
The administration has said that these subsidy payments are 'unlawful' - and halting them will deal a critical blow to one of Obama's hallmark pieces of legislation.   
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The White House announced late Thursday night that it will stop subsidy payments to insurers who sell coverage under Obamacare - prompting howls of protest from Democrat lawmakers


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In a statement Thursday night House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi and Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer slammed the decision as a 'spiteful act of vast, pointless sabotage'

'In light of this analysis, the Government cannot lawfully make the cost-sharing reduction payments,' the statement said.
'The bailout of insurance companies through these unlawful payments is yet another example of how the previous administration abused taxpayer dollars and skirted the law to prop up a broken system.'  
Ending the payments, which cost about $7billion total this year, was one of Trump's campaign promises before he was elected in 2016. 
These payments may stop almost immediately, though that timeline is not clear.  
Trump finally decided to take the action to end the payments after the GOP failed multiple times to repeal and replace Obamacare on Capitol Hill. 

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Schumer issued a series of tweets condemning the decision late Thursday night just as it was announced.
'Sadly, instead of working to lower health costs for Americans, it seems @POTUS will singlehandedly hike America's health premiums,' he wrote.
'It is a spiteful act of vast, pointless sabotage leveled at working families and the middle class in every corner of America. 
'Make no mistake about it, @POTUS will try to blame the Affordable Care Act, but this will fall on his back and he will pay the price for it.'  
Earlier on Thursday Trump signed an executive order in a move he claims is 'saving the American people from the nightmare of Obamacare.'  





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Schumer issued a series of tweets condemning the decision late Thursday night just as it was announced


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In August the Congressional Budget Office said that this move of stopping the cost-sharing reduction payments will drive up federal marketplace subsidy costs, raise premiums, cause more insurers to withdraw from the marketplaces, and increase the number of people uninsured, according to the New York Post. He is pictured signing the Executive Order that promotes healthcare choice and competition on Thursday afternoon



Regardless of that warning the President wrote on Twitter that the move will 'IMPROVE access, INCREASE choices, and LOWER COSTS for HEALTHCARE!'
In August the Congressional Budget Office said that this move of stopping the cost-sharing reduction payments will drive up federal marketplace subsidy costs, raise premiums, cause more insurers to withdraw from the marketplaces, and increase the number of people uninsured, according to the New York Post
Regardless of that warning the President wrote on Twitter that the move will 'IMPROVE access, INCREASE choices, and LOWER COSTS for HEALTHCARE!' 
He has threatened for months to cut off the payments, belittling them as a 'bailout' for insurers. And though many GOP lawmakers are not fans of Obamacare, most were also wary of them ending suddenly. 
'Cutting health care subsidies will mean more uninsured in my district,' Republican representative for Florida Ileana Ros-Lehtinen tweeted when the decision was announced Thursday. 
'@POTUS promised more access, affordable coverage. This does opposite.' 
Some insurers are likely to sue the administration over the failure to make payments, believing they are entitled to them under the Affordable Care Act, which, much to Trump's chagrin, is still law of the land. 
Trump says that Democrats will take the blame if the markets implode, but according to recent polling done by Politico, the public will find that the blame lies with the Republicans for the ACA's issues under Trump's watch.

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Post by annemarie on Sat 14 Oct 2017, 18:08

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4980352/Pro-Trump-states-affected-health-care-decision.html

[size=34]Will Trump's healthcare plans hit his supporters the hardest? Majority of people who rely on the subsidies he vows to SCRAP are in states which helped him win the election[/size]

  • Trump has promised to end cost-sharing subsidies that were part of Obamacare

  • Nearly 70 percent of people who benefit from them live in Trump states

  • The result of the decision will send insurance premiums sky-rocketing

  • Kentucky, Mississippi,  Arkansas, Arizona and Wisconsin all have high rates  


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PUBLISHED: 09:49 EDT, 14 October 2017 | UPDATED: 11:46 EDT, 14 October 2017

    

President Donald Trump's decision to end a provision of the Affordable Care Act that was benefiting roughly 6 million Americans helps fulfill a campaign promise, but it also risks harming some of the very people who helped him win the presidency.
Nearly 70 percent of those benefiting from the so-called cost-sharing subsidies live in states Trump won last November, according to an analysis by The Associated Press. 
States where the highest number of people depend on them include Mississippi, Arkansas, Florida, Wisconsin, Arizona and Kentucky - which all voted for Trump in November.  
The subsidies are paid to insurers by the federal government to help lower consumers' deductibles and co-pays. People who benefit will continue receiving the discounts because insurers are obligated by law to provide them. But to make up for the lost federal funding, health insurers will have to raise premiums substantially, potentially putting coverage out of reach for many consumers.


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President Donald Trump is pictured signing in his healthcare reform executive order on Thursday October 12 
Some insurers may decide to bail out of markets altogether.
'I woke up, really, in horror,' said Alice Thompson, 62, an environmental consultant from the Milwaukee area who purchases insurance on Wisconsin's federally run health insurance exchange.

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Thompson, who spoke with reporters on a call organized by a health care advocacy group, said she expects to pay 30 percent to 50 percent more per year for her monthly premium, potentially more than her mortgage payment. Officials in Wisconsin, a state that went for a Republican presidential candidate for the first time in decades last fall, assumed the federal subsidy would end when they approved premium rate increases averaging 36 percent for the coming year.
An estimated 4 million people were benefiting from the cost-sharing payments in the 30 states Trump carried, according to an analysis of 2017 enrollment data from the U.S. Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. Of the 10 states with the highest percentage of consumers benefiting from cost-sharing, all but one - Massachusetts - went for Trump.
Kentucky embraced former President Barack Obama's Affordable Care Act under its last governor, a Democrat, and posted some of the largest gains in getting its residents insured. Its new governor, a Republican, favors the GOP stance to replace it with something else.

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Roughly half of the estimated 71,000 Kentuckians buying health insurance on the federal exchange were benefiting from the cost-sharing subsidies Trump just ended. Despite the gains from Obama's law, the state went for Trump last fall even as he vowed to repeal it.
Consumers such as Marsha Clark fear what will happen in the years ahead, as insurers raise premiums on everyone to make up for the end of the federal money that helped lower deductibles and co-pays.
'I'm stressed out about the insurance, stressed out about the overall economy, and I'm very stressed out about our president,' said Clark, a 61-year-old real estate broker who lives in a small town about an hour's drive south of Louisville. She pays $1,108 a month for health insurance purchased on the exchange.

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Trump shared his optimism for the plan in a string of early morning tweets on Saturday 
While she earns too much to benefit from the cost-sharing subsidy, she is worried that monthly premiums will rise so high in the future that it will make insurance unaffordable.
Sherry Riggs has a similar fear. The Fort Pierce, Florida, barber benefits from the deductible and co-pay discounts, as do more than 1 million other Floridians, the highest number of cost-sharing beneficiaries of any state.
She had bypass surgery following a heart attack last year and pays just $10 a visit to see her cardiologist and only a few dollars for the medications she takes twice a day.
Her monthly premium is heavily subsidized by the federal government, but she worries about the cost soaring in the future. Florida, another state that swung for Trump, has approved rate increases averaging 45 percent.
'Probably for some people it would be a death sentence,' she said. 'I think it's kind of a tragic decision on the president's part. It scares me because I don't think I'll be able to afford it next year.'
Rates already were rising in the immediate aftermath of Trump's decision. Insurance regulators in Arkansas, another state that went for Trump, approved premium increases on Friday ranging from 14 percent to nearly 25 percent for plans offered through the insurance marketplace. Had federal cost-sharing been retained, the premiums would have risen by no more than 10 percent.
In Mississippi, another state Trump won, an estimated 80 percent of consumers who buy coverage on the insurance exchange benefit from the deductible and co-pay discounts, the highest percentage of any state. Premiums there will increase by 47 percent next year, after regulators assumed Trump would end the cost-sharing payments.
The National Association of Insurance Commissioners has estimated the loss of the subsidies would result in a 12 percent to 15 percent increase in premiums, while the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office has put the figure at 20 percent. Experts say the political instability over Trump's effort to undermine Obama's health care law could prompt more insurers to leave markets, reducing competition and driving up prices.
In announcing his decision, Trump argued the subsidies were payouts to insurance companies, and the government could not legally continue to make them. The subsidies have been the subject of an ongoing legal battle because the health care law failed to include a congressional appropriation, which is required before federal money can be spent.
The subsidies will cost about $7 billion this year.
Many Republicans praised Trump's action, saying Obama's law has led to a spike in insurance costs for those who have to buy policies on the individual market.
Among them is Republican Rep. Andy Biggs of Arizona, a state Trump won. An estimated 78,000 Arizonans were benefiting from the federal subsidies for deductibles and co-pays.
'While his actions do not take the place of real legislative repeal and revitalization of free-market health care, he is doing everything possible to save Americans from crippling health care costs and decreasing quality of care,' Biggs said.

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Post by Donnamarie on Sat 14 Oct 2017, 19:26

Depressing reads annemarie. Such a spiteful and vengeful man.

Here's a thoughtful comment made years ago by a former Wharton School, U. of Pennsylvania, professor William T. Kelley .... "Donald Trump was the dumbest goddam student I ever had."
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Post by LizzyNY on Sat 14 Oct 2017, 21:37

Donnamarie - Why doesn't that make me feel any better? Crying or Very sad
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Post by Donnamarie on Sat 14 Oct 2017, 21:49

Sorry Lizzy. I know. I guess the late professor didn't say anything we didn't already know. Im sure he wasn't the only one making that astute observation. Trump probably bought his degree. Too bad we can't flunk him out of the Presidency.
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'He's a fat, f***ing liar': Families of fallen soldiers slam Trump for saying past presidents never called them - as one reveals Bush 'listened while I screamed at him and then held me as I sobbed'

  • Delilia O'Malley lashed out at Donald Trump after he claimed past presidents hadn't called the families of fallen troops

  • She revealed President George W. Bush listed to her scream and then hugged her after her brother was killed in Iraq

  • Her anger was echoed by thousands of other Gold Star families who say they were insulted by Trump's false comments

  • A number of ex-staffers who worked with past presidents have also since publicly slammed Trump for blatantly lying 

  • The record is plain that presidents reached out to families of the dead and to the wounded, often with their presence as well as by letter and phone 


By Emily Crane For Dailymail.com
PUBLISHED: 22:01 EDT, 16 October 2017 UPDATED: 07:15 EDT, 17 October 2017

    


The sister of a slain U.S. solider has lashed out at Donald Trump calling him a 'fat f***ing liar' after he said that past presidents had never called families of fallen troops.
Delilia O'Malley claimed that former President George W. Bush listened to her scream before hugging her after she was told her brother had been killed while serving in the Iraq War.
'When my brother was killed, Pres Bush listened while I screamed at him & then held me as I sobbed, you fat f***ing liar,' O'Malley tweeted at Trump on Monday night.
Her anger was echoed by thousands of other Gold Star families who say they were insulted by Trump's false comments. A number of ex-staffers who worked with past presidents have also since publicly slammed Trump for blatantly lying. 
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Delilia O'Malley, the sister of a slain US solider lashed out at Donald Trump calling him a 'fat f***ing liar' after he said that past presidents had never called families of fallen troops



Delilia O'Malley revealed that former President George W. Bush had listened to her scream at him before hugging her after she was told her brother had been killed


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Trump's comments came during an unexpected press event in the Rose Garden on Monday (above) when he was asked why he hadn't yet commented on the deaths of four soldiers in Niger on October 4 



Trump's comments came during an unexpected press event in the Rose Garden on Monday when he was asked why he hadn't yet commented on the deaths of four elite U.S. special forces soldiers in Niger who were in an ambush by an ISIS-affiliated group. 
He said he had written to the families and planned to call them at some point before saying that Obama and other past presidents had failed to phone the loved ones of slain soldiers.
'If you look at president Obama and other presidents - most of them didn't' make calls. A lot of them didn't make calls,' he said.
'I like to call when it's appropriate, when I think I'm able to do it. They have made the ultimate sacrifice, so generally I would say that I like to call.'
When asked during the press conference to back up his claims about Obama, Trump appeared to try and backpedal. 
'I don't know if he did. I was told that he didn't often. A lot of presidents don't, they write letters. I do a combination of both. Sometimes it's a very difficult thing to do but I do a combination of both,' he said. 


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President Barack Obama salutes as the remains of Sgt. Dale R. Griffin returned to Dover Air Force Base in October 2009


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President Barack Obama hugs Gold Star mother Michelle DeFord at the White House in September 2015


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Obama's official photographer, Pete Souza, also posted on Instagram (above) that he photographed him 'meeting with hundreds of wounded soldiers, and family members of those killed in action.'



Alyssa Mastromonaco, who served as a deputy chief of staff under former Obama, was among those to immediately lash out at Trump



Ben Rhodes, Obama's foreign policy advisor, said: 'This is an outrageous and disrespectful lie even by Trump standards.'
'President Obama I think probably did sometimes and maybe sometimes he didn't. I don't know that's what I was told,' Trump added.
White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders later backed up Trump's comments when responding to the criticism, saying that 'the president wasn't criticizing predecessors, but stating a fact.'
But Trump's claim about his predecessor is in direct contradiction to a long list of public and private meetings Obama, and other presidents, held with families of those killed in action. 


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The record is plain that presidents reached out to families of the dead and to the wounded, often with their presence as well as by letter and phone. 
Bush, even at the height of two wars, 'wrote all the families of the fallen,' said Freddy Ford, spokesman for the ex-president. Ford said Bush also called or met 'hundreds, if not thousands' of family members of the war dead. 
Bush's commitment to writing to all military families of the dead and to reaching out by phone or meeting with many others came despite the enormity of the task. In the Iraq war alone, U.S. combat deaths were highest during his presidency, exceeding 800 each year from 2004 through 2007. The number fell to 313 in Bush's last year in office as the insurgency faded. Bush once said he felt the appropriate way to show his respect was to meet family members in private.
Obama declared an end to combat operations in August 2010 and the last U.S. troops were withdrawn in December 2011. As Obama wound down that war, he sent tens of thousands more troops into Afghanistan in 2009 and 2010, and the death count mounted. From a total of 155 Americans killed in Afghanistan in 2008, which was Bush's last full year in office, the number jumped to 311 in 2009 and peaked the next year at 498. In all, more than 1,700 died in Afghanistan on Obama's watch.


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Barack Obama is pictured above making Thanksgiving Day phone calls to U.S. military personnel from the Oval Office in 2011


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President Bill Clinton is pictured above speaking to American, British and French troops deployed to Skopje, Macedonia on June 22, 1999
Obama was photographed dozens of times at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware to meet the caskets of fallen troops as they returned to the U.S. from Afghanistan.
Trump visited Dover early in his presidency, going in February with his daughter Ivanka for the return of the remains of a U.S. Navy SEAL killed during a raid in Yemen, William 'Ryan' Owens. Owens' grieving father said he didn't want to talk with Trump at Dover. But the sailor's widow, Carryn, attended Trump's address to Congress and wept as he thanked her.
Obama also met and was pictured hugging family members of slain soldiers during meetings at the White House. 

WHAT TRUMP SAID ABOUT THE FOUR KILLED IN NIGER: 

I've written them personal letters.
They've been sent or they're going out tonight but they were written during the weekend. I will at some point during the period of time call the parents and the families. Because I have done that traditionally.
I felt very, very badly about that. I always feel badly. The toughest calls I have to make are the calls where this happens. Soldiers are killed. It's a very difficult thing. It gets to a point where, you know, you make four or five of them in one day, it's a very, very tough day. For me that's by far the toughest.
So the traditional way if you look at president Obama and other presidents  -most of them didn't' make calls. A lot of them didn't make calls. I like to call when it's appropriate, when I think I'm able to do it. They have made the ultimate sacrifice, so generally I would say that I like to call.
I'm going to be calling them. I want a little time to pass. I'm going to be calling them. I have, as you know, since I've been president I have. But in addition, I actually wrote letters individually to the soldiers we're talking about, and they're going to be going out either today or tomorrow.
 


Obama also frequently visited wounded troops who were in rehab at the Walter Reed National Military Medical Center. His staff say many of these visits were made not on Obama's public schedule. 
Among other rituals honoring military families, the Obamas had a 'Gold Star' Christmas tree in the White House decorated with hundreds of photos and notes from people who had lost loved ones in war. 
Gold Star families visited during the holidays, bringing ornaments.
Alyssa Mastromonaco, who served as a deputy chief of staff under Obama, was among those to immediately lash out at Trump.
'That's a f***ing lie,' she tweeted. 'To say President Obama (or past presidents) didn't call the family members of soldiers KIA – he's a deranged animal.'
Ben Rhodes, Obama's foreign policy advisor, said: 'This is an outrageous and disrespectful lie even by Trump standards.'
He added that Obama also 'never attacked a Gold Star family' in reference to Trump lashing out at the parents of Muslim American soldier, Humayun Khan, who was killed in Iraq in 2004 during the presidential election campaign last year.
Former Obama communications director Dan Pfeiffer said on Twitter Trump was 'lying' when he made the claim Obama didn't call families of fallen troops. 
Obama's official photographer, Pete Souza, also posted on Instagram that he photographed him 'meeting with hundreds of wounded soldiers, and family members of those killed in action.' 
Air Force veteran and San Antonio Spurs coach Gregg Popovich called Trump a 'soulless coward' over his statements. 
'I've been amazed and disappointed by so much of what this President had said, and his approach to running this country, which seems to be one of just a never ending divisiveness,' Popovich told The Nation.
'But his comments today about those who have lost loved ones in times of war and his lies that previous presidents Obama and Bush never contacted their families, is so beyond the pale, I almost don't have the words.' 
'This man in the Oval Office is a soulless coward who thinks that he can only become large by belittling others. This has of course been a common practice of his, but to do it in this manner – and to lie about how previous Presidents responded to the deaths of soldiers – is as low as it gets. 
'We have a pathological liar in the White House: unfit intellectually, emotionally, and psychologically to hold this office and the whole world knows it, especially those around him every day. The people who work with this President should be ashamed because they know it better than anyone just how unfit he is, and yet they choose to do nothing about it. This is their shame most of all.' 


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The former president had spoken of the letters he wrote and visits he made to the families of dead soldiers in a speech he gave at Arlington National Cemetery last year.
'I think about this every time I approve an operation as president,' he said. 
'Every time, as a husband and father, that I sign a condolence letter. Every time Michelle and I sit at the bedside of a wounded warrior or grieve and hug members of a Gold Star Family.'
Well before he became president, Trump criticized Obama back in 2012 for writing letters to the families of slain soldiers. 
'Too busy playing golf? @BarackObama sends form letters with an electronic signature to the parents of fallen SEALs,' Trump tweeted at the time. He linked back to an article written by a conservative website. 
The White House hit back saying Obama personally signed every form letter sent out to the families. 
In Obama's first year as president in 2009, 317 US soldiers died in Afghanistan and 149 in Iraq. This year, there has been 11 military fatalities in Afghanistan and 14 in Iraq.

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Sergeant Dustin M Wright, 29, of Lyons, Georgia and Sgt. La David T. Johnson of Miami Gardens, Florida
The criticism aimed at Trump came after he addressed for the first time the deaths of four soldiers killed in Niger on October 4. The attack was the deadliest on US troops since Trump became president.
Staff Sgt. Bryan Black, Staff Sgt. Jeremiah Johnson, Staff Sgt. Dustin Wright and Sgt. La David T. Johnson died when militants thought to be affiliated with the Islamic State group ambushed them while they were patrolling in unarmored trucks with Niger troops.
CNN reported that Trump was playing golf on Saturday when the body of 25-year-old Johnson was returned to Dover Air Force Base. 
Since taking office, Trump has been to Dover once to see the remains of Navy SEAL William Owens return home at the beginning of the year. 
Owens was the first active service member to die in combat under the Trump administration while carrying out a raid on an al Qaeda target in Yemen on January 27. 

His father, Bill Owens, publicly criticized Trump at the time and wouldn't meet with him at Dover. He hinted that he felt the Yemen raid had been motivated by Trump's own political agenda. 










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Post by carolhathaway on Tue 17 Oct 2017, 14:26

I simply don't understand his actions:
Attacking former POTUSes, politicians, his own secretaries and government, other countries and their leaders or athletes on issues which are either wrong or simply unimportant, opening side-shows instead if trying to solve problems...
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Post by annemarie on Tue 17 Oct 2017, 17:36

It was said that last week when he was to sign the papers on Obamacare,  he walked in to the room said hello made a speech
and was leaving , Pence had to go and get him to bring him back to sign the order.
It makes you wonder other than being the bastard that he is , is there something else going on with him.
This lie is ridiculous he should have known it could easily be proven a lie.

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Post by annemarie on Tue 17 Oct 2017, 20:20

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/10/17/trump_nominee_tom_marino_withdrawing_from_consideration_as_drug_czar_after.html


[size=55]Trump Nominee to Fight Opioid Crisis Withdraws Because He Helped Create Opioid Crisis[/size]








By Molly Olmstead



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President Trump’s nominee to lead the nation’s drug control efforts has withdrawn from consideration after an investigation by the Washington Postand 60 Minutes found he had spearheaded an effort to pass a law that effectively killed the Drug Enforcement Agency’s ability to shut down suspicious drug shipments.



Trump tweeted Tuesday morning that Pennsylvania Rep. Tom Marino, whom he nominated in September, had withdrawn from consideration as the country’s next drug czar. On Monday, during the wave of outrage following the investigation, Trump had said he would “look into” Marino’s role in passing the law, which crippled the agency’s most powerful tool for stemming the flow of opioids into the black market.
Democrats immediately called on Trump to rescind Marino’s nomination after the report was released, and some called for a repeal of the law. Sen. Claire McCaskill, who called Marino’s withdrawal “the right decision” in a press release, said Monday she would introduce legislation to repeal it.
Marino, who had been nominated to be the director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy, was one of several members of Congress who participated in the campaign, funded by the pharmaceutical companies.The ability to freeze suspicious drug shipments was key to blocking some companies from delivering to corrupt pharmacists and doctors, who can flood the streets with a dangerous flood of narcotics. The opioid epidemic has led to the death of more than 200,000 people so far.


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[size=55]Report: Trump’s Nominee for Drug Czar Led Pharma-Funded Law Undermining Opioid Fight[/size]








By Molly Olmstead


Rep. Tom Marino of Pennsylvania, Trump’s nominee to be drug czar, talking during an episode of The Wilkow Majority on SiriusXM Patriot on July 2016.

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A joint investigation from the Washington Post and 60 Minutes has found that several members of Congress, in a campaign led by the country’s largest drug distributors, undermined Drug Enforcement Agency efforts to stanch the flow of opioids by effectively stripping them of their most effective tool for stopping narcotics from flooding the streets.



The report has spurred President Trump to announce he would re-evaluate his nominee for drug czar. It also led to a show of alarm from Congressional Democrats. Sen. Claire McCaskill, who in March opened a probe into the role these drug companies might have played in stoking the opioid epidemic, which has now claimed more than 200,000 lives, said Monday she plans to introduce legislation that would repeal the law at the center of the investigation.
The report detailed the ways some members of Congress—and in particular Rep. Tom Marino, who is Trump’s nominee to become the country’s next head of the Office of National Drug Control Policy—fought the DEA to push through a law friendlier to drug distributors, some of which ship to “rogue pharmacies and pain clinics.”
Sen. Joe Manchin called for Trump to withdraw Marino’s nomination, and Trump said he would be “looking into” the reporting about Marino.
Per the Washington Post:

The law was the crowning achievement of a multifaceted campaign by the drug industry to weaken aggressive DEA enforcement efforts against drug distribution companies that were supplying corrupt doctors and pharmacists who peddled narcotics to the black market. The industry worked behind the scenes with lobbyists and key members of Congress, pouring more than a million dollars into their election campaigns.

The law makes it “virtually impossible for the DEA to freeze suspicious narcotic shipments from the companies.” The bill passed through the procedure usually used for noncontroversial bills, as few besides the sponsors knew what the effect the bill would actually have, according to the Post. When President Obama signed the bill into law, officials said, his administration was also unaware of its potential impact.
As the Post explained, these companies often disregarded warnings from the DEA when the agency asked them to shut down suspicious campaigns, instead being hit with millions in fines while profiting from billions in sales. The pills sold under suspicion in the hundreds of millions.
The pharmaceutical companies defended the law as “an effort to ensure that legitimate pain patients receive their medication without disruption,” according to the Post. The laws were too vague and too harsh, they argued.
The report also found that the drug industry spent $106 million lobbying Congress between 2014 and 2016, and that $1.5 million of that amount went to the 23 lawmakers who sponsored the various versions of the bill.


Trump told reporters Monday that he would declare the opioid epidemic a national emergency sometime next week and that he would likely also make a “major announcement” about fighting the opioid crisis next week as well.
Trump said Marino was a “great guy” and a “very early supporter” of his, but that if he found that Marino’s appointment would hurt the fight against opioid addiction, he would “make a change.”
Correction, Oct. 17, 9:25 a.m.: This post misstated that McCaskill opened the probe into the opioid epidemic in response to the report. She first opened it in March.

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Post by Donnamarie on Tue 17 Oct 2017, 21:46

Despicable comments from Trump yesterday. Nothing new. Personally I don't think he had made any effort to contact the families of these fallen soldiers so he lied and quickly tried to cover himself by finding fault with Obama (his go-to scapegoat) and other past presidents. The way he tried to explain away his inaction is so transparent to anyone listening to his pitiful words. The thing is this guy could probably pass a lie detector test because he believes his own lies ...
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http://people.com/politics/donald-trump-to-soldiers-widow-he-knew-what-he-signed-up-for/


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President Donald Trump allegedly told the widow of Sgt. La David T. Johnson of Miami Gardens, Florida, that “he knew what he signed up for” as she was on her way to pick up his body at a ceremonial homecoming Tuesday.
The 25-year-old was one of four US special forces soldiers killed in Niger.
Myeshia Johnson was heading toward Miami International Airport with U.S. Rep Frederica Wilson when Trump called at about 4:45 p.m., just before the soldier’s body arrived, according to the Miami Herald.
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Wilson, who overheard the call on speakerphone, said Trump’s call lasted only five minutes but left an impact with these words, “He knew what he signed up for… but when it happens it hurts anyway.”



“I think it’s so insensitive. It’s crazy. Why do you need to say that?” Wilson told the Herald. “You don’t say that to someone who lost family, the father, the breadwinner. You can say, ‘I’m so sorry for your loss. He’s a hero.'”
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Wilson continued, “I’m livid. [Johnson] can’t even have an open-coffin funeral because his body is so messed up.”
His widow is pregnant with the couple’s third child, which is due in January. They share a 2-year-old son and a 6-year-old daughter.
Just minutes after the call, the family were on the tarmac as the husband and father’s body arrived home.
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Myeshia threw herself over her husband’s casket as she began to sob uncontrollably, according to Local 10 News. Their daughter stood by her mother, standing stoically and with her head held tall. Her baby brother was in the arms of a relative according to the outlet.
Local politicians, police officers and firefighters stood in silence, lining up to honor Johnson for his service. Local 10 News reports Johnson was a former Walmart employee who joined the 3rd Special Forces Group at Fort Bragg, North Carolina.
He was killed in an ambush in Niger along with three other men on Oct. 4.



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One of those was television host Montel Williams who Tweeted: “There is a special place in hell for people like @realDonaldTrump who disrespect the widow of a fallen hero.”
While she did not criticize him, Chelsea Clinton paid tribute to the fallen soldier and shared a GoFundMe page created to help pay for his children’s education.
“Mrs. Johnson, I cannot begin to imagine your loss. Your family & all who mourn Sgt. Johnson are in my prayers & those of countless Americans,” Clinton tweeted.

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Post by party animal - not! on Wed 18 Oct 2017, 12:55

Just saw this in the British Press, Annemarie. Dreadful.

Even if he has absolutely no empathy or compassion genes (very clearly!), he also appears to be unable to pretend, or act presidentially.

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Post by annemarie on Wed 18 Oct 2017, 13:22

And they can't confirm or deny because what he says is private. No he said it if he hadn't they would be denying it all over the place.

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Post by carolhathaway on Wed 18 Oct 2017, 14:25

First of all, I don't think it's the right time to call a widow when awaiting her dead husband's body at an airport. I can't imagine what she must have gone through (and certainly still does), but I'm sure there was a more suitable minute - but don't know how it's normally handled. 
Second, his words - if he said them - were completely unsuitable. If he's not able to find the right words - and he seems to have a problem with that - he should simply write it down. Chelsea Clinton's words were right and showed empathy and feelings. Maybe he should print her tweet and put it on his desk to be prepared fif the next phonecall...
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Post by Donnamarie on Wed 18 Oct 2017, 14:48

We should never expect anything more from a man who is completely void of feeling any empathy. This is truly a handicap for any human who doesn't have the capacity to feel for others. But when the leader of our country lacks it it really is unacceptable, deplorable and
hurts us as a country.
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Post by LizzyNY on Wed 18 Oct 2017, 15:46

annemarie wrote:And they can't confirm or deny because what he says is private. No he said it if he hadn't they would be denying it all over the place.
No, he wouldn't be denying it. He'd be blaming it on Obama or Hillary! What makes this even more disgusting to me is that it comes from a draft dodger - which, by the way, runs in the family. (His grandfather left Germany to avoid the draft. He tried to go back, but when they realised he was a draft dodger they refused to let him repatriate. Germany, I lay our problems at your doorstep!) I don't think anyone in his family has ever done anything to serve our country.
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Post by annemarie on Wed 18 Oct 2017, 16:18

True Lizzy he would find a way to make it Obama's fault or Hillary's. They never will serve our country.

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Post by carolhathaway on Wed 18 Oct 2017, 16:46

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annemarie wrote:And they can't confirm or deny because what he says is private. No he said it if he hadn't they would be denying it all over the place.
No, he wouldn't be denying it. He'd be blaming it on Obama or Hillary! What makes this even more disgusting to me is that it comes from a draft dodger - which, by the way, runs in the family. (His grandfather left Germany to avoid the draft. He tried to go back, but when they realised he was a draft dodger they refused to let him repatriate. Germany, I lay our problems at your doorstep!) I don't think anyone in his family has ever done anything to serve our country.
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we don't want him in Germany either!
I've read tgat he's angry Germany doesn't endorse him for being a US president with German roots. Slovenia, on the other hand, seems to be very proud for being the native country of your FLOTUS.

But whenever I read comments about Trump in German online-newspapers, who say: "At least he keeps what he promised during his campaign, that's something we aren't used to!" IMO they sound like parrots, saying the same thing again and again, no matter what he does.
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Post by LizzyNY on Wed 18 Oct 2017, 21:16

Carolhathaaway - I hope you realise I wasn't being serious when I blamed our problems with Trump on Germany. As much as I wish his family had never come here, they did. And since Trump grew up here, we have to take the blame for at least some of how he turned out - and the whole blame for electing him president. I'd love to see him gone, but I wouldn't wish him on my worst enemy.

Your papers are right, by the way. He does keep his promises - at least the promises that create chaos and undermine our government. He hasn't done one constructive or helpful thing since he took office.
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Post by carolhathaway on Wed 18 Oct 2017, 21:55

Lizzy,
I know you're joking Wink. My imagination is just what had happened if Trump's ancesters had stayed in Germany, and he'd done his businesses as in the States and had decided to go into politics here affraid

But it's not journalists in online magazines who are impressed by his tries to fulfil his premises. It's people who comment on articles about his political 'work'. Journalists are quite critical about his politics and his decisions - at least the ones I read.
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Post by annemarie on Wed 18 Oct 2017, 21:56

He is saying what was said was taken way out of context. I really wonder how the people that work for him
look in the mirror after they lie for him. There was no way to take that but the way it was said. Yes he knew he may die
but you don't say that to a widow.

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Post by LizzyNY on Wed 18 Oct 2017, 22:44

Amen, Annemarie! And you especially don't say it to a widow while she's on her way to the airport to pick up her husbands body!

The only good thing that might come out of this is how many people are outraged at what he said - all the vets and their families - and the families who have buried their loved ones who died in service. Maybe we're reaching a turning point.
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Post by annemarie on Thu 19 Oct 2017, 11:15

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4995330/Trump-offered-grieving-father-25k-solider-s-death.html

The check's in the mail: Trump fallen soldier row takes a bizarre turn after Gold Star father accuses President of failing to send $25,000 he promised during condolence call - only for White House to insist it's on its way

  • Chris Baldridge said he received a call from Donald Trump in June shortly after his 22-year-old son Dillon was killed 

  • Dillon was one of three soldiers gunned down by an Afghan police officer

  • During the 15-minute call, Baldridge said Trump offered to send a check for $25,000 and promised his staff would set up an online fundraising page

  • Baldridge said all he received from Trump was a condolence letter

  • The White House said Wednesday afternoon that the check had been sent 

  • Trump's interactions with the bereaved relatives of soldiers has been under scrutiny after his 'insensitive' comments to a grieving widow

  • He called the widow of Sgt. La David Johnson on Tuesday and told her the slain solider 'knew what he signed up for'

  • Johnson was one of four US soldiers killed in Niger two weeks ago

  • Trump has denied making the remarks to the woman, despite his mother and Congresswoman Frederica Wilson repeating the claims

  • Wilson claims Trump didn't known Johnson's name and called him 'your guy'


By Emily Crane For Dailymail.com
PUBLISHED: 21:31 EDT, 18 October 2017 UPDATED: 02:51 EDT, 19 October 2017

    

The military families argument has taken a bizarre turn after the White House said Donald Trump's check to a slain US solider's family 'has been sent' after the man's father spoke out saying the $25,000 offer never materialized. 
Chris Baldridge told the Washington Post that he received a phone call from Trump back in June shortly after his 22-year-old son Dillon was one of three soldiers killed in Afghanistan by a police officer.
During the 15-minute phone call, Baldridge said Trump had offered his grieving family $25,000 and promised to set up an online fundraising page but the money never arrived.
Baldridge said all he received from Trump was a condolence letter.

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Chris Baldridge said he received a call from Donald Trump in June shortly after his 22-year-old son Dillon was one of three soldiers killed by an Afghan police officer

'I opened it up and read it, and I was hoping to see a check in there, to be honest,' he said.
'I know it was kind of far-fetched thinking. But I was like, 'Damn, no check.' Just a letter saying 'I'm sorry.''
After Baldridge spoke out, White House spokeswoman Lindsay Walters revealed on Wednesday afternoon that the check had been sent.
The White House did not give a time-frame for when the check was sent.


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Dillon was one of three soldiers gunned down in Afghanistan in June by an Afghan police officer
'The check has been sent,' Walters said in a statement. 
'It's disgusting that the media is taking something that should be recognized as a generous and sincere gesture, made privately by the President, and using it to advance the media's biased agenda.'
Late on Wednesday, Trump tweeted out a figure he attributed to Fox News saying '46% of Americans think the media is inventing stories about Trump & his administration'. Trump followed up saying: 'It is actually much worse than thing!' 

Trump's interactions with the bereaved relatives of soldiers killed in action made headlines this week after he claimed to have called every family.  
It further escalated when the mother of an Army sergeant killed in Niger two weeks ago said on Wednesday that Trump, in a call offering condolences, showed 'disrespect' to the soldier's loved ones as they drove to the airport to meet his body.
Sgt. La David Johnson was one of four American military personnel killed nearly two weeks ago whose families had not heard from Trump until Tuesday. 
Rep. Frederica Wilson was sitting beside Johnson's widow Myeshia when Trump called and told her that her husband 'knew what he signed up for' by enlisting.
'It was the wrong thing to say, but that's not the worst part,' Wilson told the ABC.
'He did not even know La David Johnson's name. He kept referring to him as your guy. He never called his name. So that was even more painful.' 


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Trump's interactions with the bereaved relatives of soldiers killed in action made headlines this week after he claimed to have called every family 




Late on Wednesday, Trump tweeted out a figure he attributed to Fox News saying '46% of Americans think the media is inventing stories about Trump & his administration'


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After Baldridge spoke out, White House spokeswoman Lindsay Walters revealed on Wednesday afternoon that the check had been sent



Trump tweeted Wednesday morning that Wilson had 'totally fabricated what I said to the wife of a soldier who died in action (and I have proof).'
But Johnson's grieving mother Cowanda Jones-Johnson said: 'President Trump did disrespect my son and my daughter, and also me and my husband.'  


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Sgt. La David Johnson, 25, was among the four US troops who were killed in Niger nearly two weeks ago during an ambush
When asked what evidence the White House had to back up Trump's dissent, press secretary Sarah Sanders said there were no recordings of the call 'but there were several people in the room from the administration who were on the call, including Chief of Staff Gen. John Kelly.' 
Wilson spoke to CNN early on Wednesday, citing several people in the car who were aware of Trump's remarks and saying: 'This gentleman has a brain disorder, and he needs to be checked out. ... We should be praising his family, not insulting them.' 
Heartbreaking footage later showed Johnson's widow, who is expecting the couple's third baby in January, sobbing as she leaned over her husband's flag-draped coffin at Miami airport on Tuesday.
The couple's six-year-old daughter stood by the coffin with her mother, while their two-year-old son waited in the arms of a relative standing nearby. 
Trump on Tuesday called the families of the four US troops who were killed in Niger nearly two weeks ago.


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President Trump phoned Myeshia Johnson on Tuesday afternoon to give his condolences over the death of her husband Sgt. La David Johnson


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Johnson, who is expecting the couple's third baby in January, later sobbed as she leaned over her husband's coffin


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The late Army Sgt. La David Johnson is pictured with his mother Cowanda Jones-Johnson, who is backing up Rep. Frederica Wilson's account of a condolence call in which Donald Trump told her the slain solider 'knew what he signed up for'



Trump denied making the insensitive remark to Johnson's widow, tweeting on Wednesday that the congresswoman 'totally fabricated' it

[size=18]La David Johnson's widow meets coffin as he's returned home



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It came a day after he said he would call them at the 'appropriate time' when questioned about his public silence.  
Staff Sgt. Bryan Black, Staff Sgt. Jeremiah Johnson, Staff Sgt. Dustin Wright and Sgt. La David Johnson were all killed when militants thought to be affiliated with the Islamic State group ambushed them while they were patrolling in unarmored trucks with Niger troops.



During a White House press conference on Monday, Trump indicated that he had held off on calling out of respect for the grieving families – then unloaded on former presidents with an inaccurate claim that his predecessors didn't call families of the fallen.
'So the traditional way if you look at president Obama and other presidents – most of them didn't' make calls,' Trump said.




Sergeant Bryan C. Black, 35, Sergeant Jeremiah W Johnson, 39, and Sergeant Dustin M Wright, 29, were the other three killed in Niger


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Trump is said to have told Mrs Johnson that her 25-year-old husband 'knew what he signed up for... but when it happens it hurts anyway'

[size=18]Body of Sgt. La David Johnson returns home to Florida



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'A lot of them didn't make calls. I like to call when it's appropriate, when I think I'm able to do it. They have made the ultimate sacrifice, so generally I would say that I like to call.'
When asked during the press conference to back up his claims about Obama, Trump appeared to try and backpedal.
'I don't know if he did. I was told that he didn't often. A lot of presidents don't, they write letters. I do a combination of both. Sometimes it's a very difficult thing to do but I do a combination of both,' he said.  
'President Obama I think probably did sometimes and maybe sometimes he didn't. I don't know that's what I was told,' Trump added.
Trump was heavily criticized for the comments by both Gold Star families and ex-staffers of former presidents.
Alyssa Mastromonaco, who served as a deputy chief of staff under Obama, was among those to immediately lash out at Trump.
'That's a f***ing lie,' she tweeted. 'To say President Obama (or past presidents) didn't call the family members of soldiers KIA - he's a deranged animal.'
Ben Rhodes, Obama's foreign policy advisor, said: 'This is an outrageous and disrespectful lie even by Trump standards.


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Post by carolhathaway on Thu 19 Oct 2017, 14:27

Do all families of fallen soldiers get $25,000 from Trump? And if that's not the case: Why did he announce this specifuc family that they'd get the money? Why not everybody else?
Strange...
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Post by annemarie on Thu 19 Oct 2017, 15:45

As far as I know the president doesn't give money and I'm sure they aren't supposed to set up funding pages either.

Everyday with this idiot there is something ridiculous in the news.

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Post by LizzyNY on Thu 19 Oct 2017, 16:13

It was just mentioned on The View that President Obama also donated some of his own money to a fallen soldier's foundation. It isn't usually done and isn't a government policy. It was said that maybe it was something done on the spur of the moment as a sympathetic gesture for the family of the fallen soldier.
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Post by annemarie on Thu 19 Oct 2017, 20:17

He donated to the soldier's foundation that was nice, but trump said they would set up a fund I don't that happens.
If it does then they should be setting up funds for all soldiers.

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Post by LizzyNY on Thu 19 Oct 2017, 21:00

From what I heard, back in June Trump promised the father of a fallen soldier that he would give him $25,000. This week the father told the press that he never got the money. Trump's spokesperson said yesterday, "The check is in the mail", which gives a new meaning to the term "snail mail"! Maybe they used a real snail! Very Happy
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Post by fava on Fri 20 Oct 2017, 00:06

carolhathaway wrote:Do all families of fallen soldiers get $25,000 from Trump? And if that's not the case: Why did he announce this specifuc family that they'd get the money? Why not everybody else?
Strange...
Fallen soldiers get $100,000 I read (I guess it's like life insurance).  This soldiers parents were divorced and the mother was named as the beneficiary in the paperwork, so she got all of the money and doesn't legally have to share with her ex-husband/the soldier's father. The dad then told Trump he was barely getting by and that's when Trump offered the money.

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Post by fava on Fri 20 Oct 2017, 00:11

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John Kelly for President?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8J_-cPMlig
Oh please.  He was happily deporting people and carrying out the Muslim ban before he became chief of staff.  Now he is even further enabling things like what Pruitt is doing at the EPA, DeVos is doing at Education, etc. etc.

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Ah, right.

I was merely impressed by his oratory skills and eloquence in front of the White House Press Corp

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Ah, right.

I was merely impressed by his oratory skills and eloquence in front of the White House Press Corp 
Yes, the contrast is startling.

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Post by LizzyNY on Fri 20 Oct 2017, 01:36

PAN - He is very eloquent. Too bad he used his eloquence in defense of Trump and in an attack on Rep. Wilson. I can't respect that.

I'm sure Trump was trying to do the "right thing" as he sees it - a pro forma call to a grieving widow so he can look presidential, even if he doesn't give a damn about her or her husband. And because he really doesn't care enough to do it right, he screwed it up - just like he does so many other things. I don't know if he is evil or stupid, but he is definitely incompetent.
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Post by annemarie on Fri 20 Oct 2017, 11:00

To say the Rep shouldn't have been listening in is ridiculous, the phone may have been on speaker. The woman's daughter was in the car maybe she wanted her to hear the words of Trump. 
He is definitely in competent and doesn't care to learn what to say and when to say it.

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Post by fava on Fri 20 Oct 2017, 14:19

The phone was on speaker and the family asked the casualty officer--who is a representative of the US military-- to put it on speaker.

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Post by annemarie on Fri 20 Oct 2017, 15:17

Thanks Fava , it is horrible that Kelly is making excuses for trump I know it's his job .

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Post by Donnamarie on Fri 20 Oct 2017, 15:42

General Kelly made a very measured speech yesterday and I heard him speak in support of Trump and the way he handled the call and I heard far too subtle criticisms of Trump without saying his name. His comments we're a huge contradiction for me. I appreciate Kelly's service to our country and feel for the loss of his son but I don't support at all the policies he defended as Homeland Security Secretary. And I don't support him as Chief of Staff and an enabler of Trump.

Kelly spoke emotionally about what our country used to be like ... how we used to honor women, gold star families, the military and how we are sadly lacking that respect now. But I find it really difficult to defend his views when he is defending Trump. When he defends Trump he has to be responsible for defending his actions. Trump has been the one who politicized the death of Sergeant Johnson ... not the Congresswoman who is a friend to the grieving family. She simply spoke for the family in response to their reaction to Trump's phone call. I don't think Kelly should have attacked her at all. Trump was the one who dishonored a gold star family during the 2016 election and Trump was the one who has dishonored women. Bottomline, as poignant as Kelly's words were yesterday they just don't seem credible to me.
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Post by fava on Fri 20 Oct 2017, 17:27

Donnamarie wrote:General Kelly made a very measured speech yesterday and I heard him speak in support of Trump and the way he handled the call and I heard far too subtle criticisms of Trump without saying his name.  His comments we're a huge contradiction for me.  I appreciate Kelly's service to our country and feel for the loss of his son but I don't support at all the policies he defended as Homeland Security Secretary.  And I don't support him as Chief of Staff and an enabler of Trump.

Kelly spoke emotionally about what our country used to be like ... how we used to honor women, gold star families, the military and how we are sadly lacking that respect now.   But I find it really difficult to defend his views when he is defending Trump.  When he defends Trump he has to be responsible for defending his actions.  Trump has been the one who politicized the death of Sergeant Johnson ... not the Congresswoman who is a friend to the grieving family. She simply spoke for the family in response to their reaction to Trump's phone call.  I don't think Kelly should have attacked her at all. Trump was the one who dishonored a gold star family during the 2016 election and Trump was the one who has  dishonored women.  Bottomline, as poignant as Kelly's words were yesterday they just don't seem credible to me.
He spoke about what our country "used to be like"--harks to the same MAGA themes as Trump.  Sorry, 1950s were not so great for women even if he believes they were "sacred."   Sorry, women don't want to be madonnas, just people.  And his boss certainly has not treated women as sacred, so spare me the hypocrisy Gen. Kelly.  Also, no apology to family if they were upset or took well-intended remarks in a way that was not intended.  Just attacks a black congresswoman, who mentored this soldier since he was in elementary school, and calls her a liar.  Starting to believe he is a Trumper in a more acceptable persona--not someone who is there to save us from Trump. For example, Homeland Security did nothing about Russia's attacks on our election on his watch.

Lawrence O'Donnell addressed this last night on his show--he grew up in the same self-segregated, white, Irish Catholic, Boston community as Gen. Kelly.

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Post by annemarie on Fri 20 Oct 2017, 18:35

All Trump had to do is apologize if what he said offended and hurt the family. He can't ever admit he was wrong .
So Kelly is a more intelligent version of Trump that is really sad.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5000972/Trump-Releases-Stand-National-Anthem-Petition.html


President Donald Trump launches petition seeking 'supporters who stand for the National Anthem' and campaign contributions

  • The petition, posted to the GOP website, does not mention the NFL, but does ask for signees' full name, zip code, and email address

  • The petition asks signees to show their 'patriotism and support' but does not specify any call to action. Trump is pictured holding his right hand over his heart

  • Signees are moved to a 'Thank you' page that asks for a campaign contribution 

  • NFL owners met on Wednesday but did not announce any new rule that would compel players to stand during 'The Star-Spangled Banner'

  • Professional football players have been protesting inequality and police violence against minorities since last season, but have recently drawn the ire of Trump

  • Trump: ‘Too much talk, not enough action. Stand for the National Anthem'


By Alex Raskin Sports News Editor For Dailymail.com and Abigail Miller For Dailymail.com
PUBLISHED: 09:17 EDT, 20 October 2017 UPDATED: 12:33 EDT, 20 October 2017

    

President Donald Trump has launched a petition on asking for people to stand and support the national anthem.
‘The President has asked for a list of supporters who stand for the National Anthem,’ read the petition, which was posted to the Republican Party website on Thursday. ‘Show your patriotism and support.’
The petition requests signees’ full name, email address, and area code, but is otherwise bare besides a picture of Trump. Those who do sign are transferred to a 'Thank you' page which asks for campaign contributions ranging from $35 to $2,700 dollars. 
Those who contribute at least $5 will receive a bumper sticker that reads 'I STAND FOR THE FLAG.'


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A $5 contribution is rewarded with the official 'I STAND FOR THE FLAG' bumper sticker 
The fine print along the bottom of the page reads: ‘Paid for by the Trump Make America Great Again Committee, a joint fundraising committee authorized by and composed of Donald J. Trump for President, Inc. and the Republican National Committee.’ 
The NFL owners met in Manhattan on Wednesday to discuss the ongoing controversy surround players protesting during the national anthem, but did not announce any change to league rules that would have compelled players to stand.

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‘Too much talk, not enough action,’ Trump tweeted afterwards. ‘Stand for the National Anthem.’
Beginning with now-former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick in the 2016 preseason, NFL players have been protesting inequality and police brutality against minorities by sitting, kneeling, or raising a fist during the national anthem.
Trump has been the demonstrators’ biggest critic, referring to the players as ‘sons of b******’ and demanding that owners discipline anyone who refuses to stand for ‘The Star-Spangled Banner.’



NFL owners have not changed any rules requiring players to stand, which has upset Trump


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Chiefs teammates Marcus Peters (No. 22 on the left) and Ukeme Eligwe (No. 45 on the right) sit on the bench during the national anthem prior to their game in Oakland on Thursday
The owner of the Jacksonville Jaguars believes Trump's contempt for the NFL springs from his failure to buy the Buffalo Bills in 2014. 
In an interview with USA Today, Shahid Khan said that Trump is on a 'personal mission as the president to 'soil a league or brand that he is jealous of.' 
'This is a very personal issue with him,' Khan claimed. 


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The protests began in 2016 with Colin Kaepernick, who first took a knee during the anthem to protest police brutality and racism
'He's been elected President, where maybe a great goal he had in life to own an NFL team is not very likely. So to make it tougher, or hurt the league, it's very calculated.'
He also said that the protests pale in comparison to the 'offensive behavior' coming from his administration.
'Let's get real,' Khan said to USA today.
'The attacks on Muslims, the attacks on minorities, the attacks on Jews. I think the NFL does not even come close to that on the level of being offensive.
'Here, it's about money, or messing with - trying to soil a league or a brand that he's jealous of.' 
He also mentioned the irony of Trump accusing the NFL for being unpatriotic when he has been accused of disrespecting the family of a fallen soldier. 
Khan is a Pakistani-born businessman and self-made billionaire. 
And though he donated $1 million to Trump's inaugural fund, he said he has a problem with how the president handles certain social issues, specifically slamming his travel ban when speaking to USA today on Wednesday.
'That's one aspect that you can imagine - someone is getting a visa that will change their life is from a Muslim-majority country - and now, boom, that dream to change lives, they get locked out,' he said.  
'That's a hell of a lot more significant than fighting some sponsors or people who want their money back because they've been riled up.' 
Khan said he doesn't regret donating to the President as he was intrigued by many of his proposed economic policies, but that this 'toxic side,' of Trump 'sours the whole experience.'  
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Shahid Khan (left) said that Trump failed to buy the Buffalo Bills in 2014 and has now made it his personal mission as the president to 'soil a league or brand that he is jealous of'


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Khan suggested that Trump is taking his anger out on the NFL after failing to buy the Buffalo Bills, pictured on October 8, in 2014. Khan said 'This is a very personal issue with him' 


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Donald Trump is accused of peddling ‘rubbish’ designed to provoke hate crime after he blames 'Radical Islamic terror' for 13% jump in offences in England and Wales

  • Donald Trump tweeted: 'Not good, we must keep America safe!' in response   

  • Data released yesterday showed 5.2million crimes committed in Britain last year

  • But while terrorism has surged it is a tiny proportion of overall crimes committed

  • MPs accused Trump of stirring up xenophobia and hate by misquoting figures 

  • George W Bush and Barack Obama launched thinly veiled attacks on Trump


By Kate Ferguson, Political Correspondent For Mailonline and Richard Spillett Crime Correspondent For Mailonline
PUBLISHED: 06:54 EDT, 20 October 2017 UPDATED: 13:20 EDT, 20 October 2017

    

Donald Trump was today accused of peddling 'rubbish' designed to provoke 'hate crime' after he wrongly linked the rise in offences in England and Wales to 'Radical Islamic terror'.
The US president sent a tweet referring to figures out yesterday showing crime increased by 13 per cent last year and warning 'We must keep American safe'. 
But British MPs tore into Mr Trump for talking 'nonsense' and said he is 'spreading fear and xenophobia' by wrongly blaming the rise on terrorism.
Others accused him of peddling 'fake news' and pointed out terrorism accounts for a 'tiny' proportion of crime in Britain. 
Mr Trump wrote on Twitter: 'Just out report: 'United Kingdom crime rises 13% annually amid spread of Radical Islamic terror.' Not good, we must keep America safe!'  
Labour MP Yvette Cooper, chair of the influential Home affairs Select Committee, hit back saying: 'Hate crime in the UK has gone up by almost 30 per cent and rubbish like this tweet from Donald Trump is designed to provoke even more of it.' 
Figures released yesterday revealed that police forces registered 5.2 million crimes in the year to the end of June. 
But while terrorism has surged, with five murderous attacks across Britain killing dozens and injuring hundreds in the last year, it is a tiny proportion of arrests. 


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Donald Trump tweeted this morning: 'Just out report: 'United Kingdom crime rises 13% annually amid spread of Radical Islamic terror.' Not good, we must keep America safe!'


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The US president was accused of talking 'nonsense' after he posted the comments online 


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Labour MPs Chris Bryant (pictured right) and  Yvette Cooper (pictured left) hit out at Donald Trump over the comments. Ms Cooper said 'rubbish' like the tweet is 'designed to provoke' more hate crime 


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Tory Mp and former chairman of the Foreign Affairs select committee, pictured in Parliament earlier his week, said the comment is 'bizarre'

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The controversy comes after former presidents Barack Obama and George W Bush slammed 'bullying and prejudice' and the lowering of political discourse in thinly-veiled attacks on Mr Trump. 
Mr Bush took a dig at his ‘outright fabrication’ style of politics. 
The bulk of crimes in Britain are frauds, thefts and public order offences which have no link to extremism.
Ms Cooper said: ''It is appalling that we have reached the point where inflammatory and ignorant statements from the President of the United States are now seen as normal. 

DONALD TRUMP'S CONTROVERSIES


No-go zones 
Donald Trump sparked anger in December 2015 when he suggested London has 'no-go' areas where police would not go because they fear for their lives 
Terror attack: 

The US President accused Sadiq Khan of overseeing a 'pathetic' response to the London Bridge terror attack this year.
Mr Trump misquoted the London Mayor suggesting he had played down the atrocity by telling Londoners there is 'no reason to be alarmed'.  

State Visit: 
Donald Trump's planned lavish state visit to the UK has been postponed amid fears it would spark the biggest protests in a generation.
Theresa May tried to bolster the special relationship by extending the royal invite soon after he moved into the White House .
But MPs queued up to condemn the planned visit and it has now been kicked into the long grass. 
Travel ban:  
Donald Trump's Muslim travel ban sparked fury in Britain where MPs queued up to condemn it.
In a parliamentary debate in the House of Commons, he was branded a 'buffoon' and a 'wazzock' by MPs because of the proposal.




'If we are to properly tackle hate crime and every other crime, we have to challenge this kind of nonsense.'
Tory MP Crispin Blunt, former chair of the foreign affairs select committee, said: ‘I think it is a bizarre lack of self-awareness from a supporter of keeping Americans armed to the teeth with wholly predictable consequences.'
He urged caution in using the police data as a basis for analysis, and added: ‘However linking overall crime levels to Islamic extremism is utterly bonkers. Fake news, to coin a phrase. ‘ 

Jo Swinson, deputy leader of the Lib Dems, accused Mr Trump of being 'misleading and spreading fear' while Labour MP Stephen Doughty said he is 'talking nonsense'. 
Mr Doughty, who sits on the Home Affairs Select Committee, told the Mail Online: 'Donald Trump is talking nonsense about issues he doesn't understand.'
He added: 'Yet again it is not helpful for the President of the United States to comment with ignorance on security and policing maters in the UK.
'While we have had some very tragic and horrific terror attacks in the last year, this represents a very small proportion of overall UK crime.
'Donald Trump would be better paced looking at issues in his own country such as the huge number of deaths from gun violence which despite repeated atrocities from sandy hook to Las Vegas, the US government have failed to take action on.'  

Ms Swinson said: 'Stop misleading and spreading fear. 
'Hate crime is up and it is fuelled by the kind of populist xenophobia you peddle.' 
And Britons took to Twitter to slam the US president for his inaccurate portrayal of the crime figures - saying they 'despaired' of his intervention.
One posted a picture of a panda covering their head with their hands and wrote: 'Where on earth did he get the idea that 'radical Islamic terror' is behind the rise? I despair.'
Another branded him a 'fear monger' while others questioned if the US president is 'lying' to stir up fear.
The controversy comes after his two predecessors in the White House both launched attacks on Mr Trump for lowering the tone of political discourse and fuelling hate.



Lib Dem deputy leader Jo Swinson joined in the condemnation of the comments 



Another pointed out that the US president is peddling 'fake news' by blaming the increase on  terrorism



Another Twitter user also hit out at Mr trump wading into domestic British affairs



Another Twitter user branded the US President an 'irresponsible fear monger' over the comments 


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One Twitter user told of his 'despair' at the US president jumping to the wrong conclusions about the rise in crime 
Speaking yesterday, Mr Bush said 'bigotry seems emboldened' in today's America.
He added: 'Our politics seems more vulnerable to conspiracy theories and outright fabrication.' 
And in his first address since leaving the White House, Mr Obama said: 'Some of the politics we see now, we thought we had put that to bed.
'That's folks looking 50 years back. It's the 21st Century, not the 19th Century.'
Mr Trump has been embroiled in political rows with British politicians before as a result of his controversial tweets.
Earlier this year he repeatedly clashed with Sadiq Khan after he questioned the London Mayor's response to the London Bridge terror attack.
Mr Trump branded Mr Khan's response to the atrocity 'pathetic' and misquoted a reassurance the mayor gave to Londoners claiming he was playing down the threat.
Responding to the latest comments, Labour MP Chris Bryant said: 'Butt out of it mister president.
'You have more murders in New York or Chicago every year than we do in the whole country so we're not going to take any lessons from you. 


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The number of overall crimes reported to police was up by 13 per cent, returning to levels seen before 2007. Public order offences, knife crimes and robbery rose by the highest rate
'And you clearly don't understand the difference between causation and correlation.'   



Kevan Jones, Labour MP for North Durham, told the Mail Online: 'This is another example of Donald Trump not letting the facts get in the way of his tweets.
'He should look at the facts before he comments.' 
Figures released yesterday revealed that police forces registered 5.2 million crimes in the year to the end of June - up 13 per cent on the previous year.
But while terrorism has surged over the past year, with five murderous attacks across Britain killing dozens and injuring hundreds, it is a tiny proportion of arrests.
Home Office data released last month showed the number of people detained over suspected terrorism increased to 379 - the highest since records began. 
The bulk of crime relates to frauds, thefts and public order offences which have no link to extremism. 
Figures released yesterday show the number of violent crimes rose from 1,033,719 cases the previous year to 1,229,260 cases this year. 


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The number of sexual offences reported to police has risen dramatically since 2012


There was an 19 per cent increase in the number of sexual offences recorded in England and Wales, up to 129,700 on the previous year. 
The Office for National Statistics (ONS) data revealed the rise in violence was driven by increases in the violence without injury (21 per cent) and stalking and harassment (36 per cent) sub-categories. 
The ONS report said: 'Most of this volume increase was thought to result from improved recording practices but it is likely that rises in the most serious categories reflect genuine rises in violent crime.

The stats: Which crimes rose by the most?


Public order offences - up 43% to 33,082
Knife crimes - up 26% to 36,998
Robbery - up 25% to 64,499
Violence against the person - up 19% to 1,229,260
Sexual offences - up 19% to 129,000
Vehicle theft - up 17% to 427,561
Theft from the person - up 11% to 92,435
Burglary - up 6% to 423,137
Homicide - Down 2% to 664

'These lower volume but serious offences are thought to be generally well-recorded by the police.' 

Police also recorded an 11 per cent rise in the number of thefts, with the crime continuing to rise over last two years.
Forces logged 664 homicides in the 12 months from July 2016, which was a two per cent fall compared with the previous year.
However, the ONS said recent trends have been affected by recording of incidents where there were multiple victims, such as 96 cases of manslaughter from the Hillsborough disaster and the recent terrorist attacks in London and Manchester.
If cases related to Hillsborough and the terror attacks are excluded, the homicide tally went up by 46, following a 'general upward trend' seen in recent years.
There was a 'substantial increase', of 59 per cent, in the number of attempted murder offences registered, which was largely due to terror-related cases.  


Police-recorded offences are one of two official sources used to analyse trends in crime.
The other is the Crime Survey for England and Wales, which gave an estimated total of 10.8 million incidents of crime in the year to the end of June.
This figure includes experimental data on fraud and computer misuse offences, and annual comparisons will not be available until January. 

John Flatley, crime specialist for the ONS, said the figures 'suggest that the police are dealing with a growing volume of crime'.


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Violence of all kinds has also risen, with the total number of violent offences now at 1.2million


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The number of knife crimes recorded in England and Wales last year was the highest since 2011
He added: 'While improvements made by police forces in recording crime are still a factor in the increase, we judge that there have been genuine increases in crime – particularly in some of the low incidence but more harmful categories.'
'Police figures cannot provide a good measure of all crime in society, since we know that a large volume of it never comes to their attention. 
'The recent increases in recorded crime need to be seen in the context of the overall decline in crime indicated by the Crime Survey for England and Wales.'
'The survey remains our best guide to long-term trends for crime as experienced by the population in general.' 


[size=34]Soaring crime stats in England and Wales are NOT down to rise in terror offences - but terrorism IS on the rise in the UK [/size]


Terror arrests have soared in Britain over the past year - but terrorism is not behind the huge increase in reported crime announced yesterday.
Home Office data released last month showed the number of people detained over suspected terrorism increased to 379 - the highest since records began.
But murders and attempted murders due to terrorism represent well under one per cent of the overall 5.2million crimes committed in Britain last year, most of which are frauds, thefts and public order offences which have no link to extremism. 


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Police made scores of arrests after the Manchester and London attacks, with the number of terror suspects detained last year rising to more than 370

The sweep of raids following attacks in Westminster, Manchester and London Bridge, coupled with the rising number of threats being thwarted, led to a two thirds increase in suspected extremists being detained.
Met Police Commissioner Cressida Dick has said that, on top of the five high-profile terror attacks which have taken place in Britain, this year, police have foiled six further attacks in the last few months.
The report into recorded crime released by the Office for National Statistics yesterday mentioned how terrorism has increased the stats relating to some crime.
It stated: 'There was a substantial increase of 59% in the number of attempted murder offences to 426 offences in the latest year. This rise is due largely to the London and Manchester terror attacks, where the police recorded 294 attempted murder offences.'
The report also states: 'Of the 664 homicides recorded in the year ending June 2017, there were 35 relating to the London and Manchester terror attacks.'


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Scotland Yard has beefed up its anti-terror force, but the vast majority of crime in the UK, well under 1%, is linked to terrorism

Keith Hunter, of the Association of Police and Crime Commissioners, also mentioned the growing threat from terrorism when discussing the figures.
He said: 'There are undoubtedly key pressures on police time coming from rising overall crime levels, more complex crimes being committed, a growing terrorist threat and, more than ever, the police being called on as a last resort when other agencies lack their own capacity.'
His comments suggest some increase in non-terrorism crime could also be down to police having to spend more of their time monitoring extremists or handling the fall-out of attacks.
However, the increases reported in those terror-related crimes are a tiny proportion of the overall crime in the UK, which it emerged has increased by 13 per cent.
The 294 attempted murders and 35 homicides related to terror attacks are low in number compared to the 235,000 burglaries, 200,000 harassment cases and 370,000 cases of shoplifting, which have no link to terrorism at all.





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