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George Clooney Plans to Move Amal and Twins Back to LA for Security Reasons (EXCLUSIVE)
Jun 30, 2017 at 11:54 am
By Life & Style Magazine
Life & Style has exclusively learned that George Clooney has recently made plans to move back to LA, for the safety of his family, after the latest spate of terror attacks in England.
“He doesn’t feel like Amal and the twins are safe living in the English countryside,” an insider says. “He’s determined to move his family to LA, where he feels much more secure.”
George’s safety concerns had been growing for years. The Oscar winner “has been subject to very serious threats in the past,” reveals the source, because of his humanitarian efforts in Darfur, Sudan. And Amal’s work as an international human rights lawyer, along with her public pleas for foreign governments to prosecute terrorists, has made her a potential target.
When George learned that he was going to be a father, those concerns went into overdrive. “As soon as Amal found out she was pregnant, he hired former Secret Service agents to assess all his properties and make recommendations for improvement,” the insider adds. “His mansion in Studio City [Calif.] was deemed the most secure, and it’s within minutes of an LAPD station.”
“He’s waited so long for this family,” the insider continues. “He’ll do whatever it takes to keep them safe.”
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I think they are safe and feeling pretty secure in Sonning.
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Consider the source. A security assessment of his properties sounds plausible, especially now that they have the twins to consider, but the rest of it is just rehash and speculation. I'm sure they're feeling just fine in Sonning.
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Agree with Donna and Lizzy.
Why should they be more secure in L.A. than in Sonning?
Why should they be more secure in L.A. than in Sonning?
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They wouldn't they just have to write something .
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Not sure we're in the right thread here, but Lysa Heslov's twitterpage is very interesting! She is fighting back with some knowledge of her own........
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I have a few things to say about Trump's tweets today but posted them on the Serious Side thread.
Thanks for posting the article annemarie!
Thanks for posting the article annemarie!
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As we have discussed before the downside of these unsubstantiated stories are that they get picked up by a variety of media outlets. Now Breitbart has weighed in on the Life and Style article with their own subtle narrative ...
Report: Open Borders Advocate George Clooney Moving Family Back To Trump's America For 'Security Reasons'
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Report: Open Borders Advocate George Clooney Moving Family Back To Trump's America For 'Security Reasons'
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]Actor and immigration activist George Clooney will move to Los Angeles with his wife Amal and newborn twins Ella and Alexander due to security concerns at his England estate, according to a report.
Life & Style magazine reported last week that the 56-year-old Oscar-winner will move his newly-expanded family to his mansion in Studio City, California, after deeming his 17th century mansion in Sonning, England to be not sufficiently safe for them.
“As soon as Amal found out she was pregnant, he hired former Secret Service agents to assess all his properties and make recommendations for improvement,” an unnamed Clooney “insider” told the magazine. “His mansion in Studio City [Calif.] was deemed the most secure, and it’s within minutes of an LAPD station.”
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Actor George Clooney (L) and his wife Amal Alamuddin Clooney attend the CEO Roundtable on the sidelines of the 71st session of the United Nations General Assembly in New York on September 20, 2016 in New York. / AFP / JIM WATSON
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]File photo dated May 12, 2016 shows US actor George Clooney (L) and his wife Amal Clooney at the 69th Cannes Film Festival in Cannes, southern France. / AFP PHOTO / LOIC VENANCE
The insider added that the actor has received “serious” threats against his safety in recent years, as has his wife Amal, whose has in the past called for terrorist groups including ISIS to be prosecuted as part of her work as an international human rights attorney.
“He doesn’t feel like Amal and the twins are safe living in the English countryside,” the source told Life & Style. “He’s determined to move his family to LA, where he feels much more secure.”
The report comes as England has been rocked by terrorist attacks in recent months, including the terrorist bombing of a concert by pop singer Ariana Grande in Manchester in June that claimed the lives of 22 people, many of them young children.
In May, British government officials disclosed that 23,000 known jihadi terrorists are believed to be residing in Britain, far more than the 3,000 that had initially been reported.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Actor George Clooney (C) is accompanied by human rights activist John Prendergast (R) and Sen. Richard Lugar (L) after meeting with Lugar on Sudan on Capitol Hill October 12, 2010 in Washington, D.C. (Win McNamee/Getty Images)
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]In this handout image provided by the White House, U.S. President Barack Obama (R) talks about Sudan with actor George Clooney during a meeting outside the Oval Office October 12, 2010 in Washington, DC. (Pete Souza/The White House via Getty Images)
The move for the Clooneys comes as both George and Amal have been among the most vocal and active celebrity advocates for open borders and the free flow of refugees between countries.
In February of last year, the actor met privately with German Chancellor Angela Merkel, and praised the German leader’s acceptance of refugees from Syria and other countries. The same month, Clooney told Sky News in an interview that the United States is not doing “enough” to help Syrian refugees, and that 10,000 refugees per year was too low a figure to be admitting into the country.
In an April 2016 interview with the BBC, Amal Clooney criticized then-Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump’s plans to build a security wall on the U.S.-Mexico border, telling the outlet that the plan does not represent “U.S. values.”
George has also been an outspoken critic of Trump, telling The Guardian in a March 2016 interview that he believes Trump to be a “xenophobic fascist” and an “opportunist.” He previously described Trump’s immigration policy proposals as “idiotic” and “intolerant.”
Clooney owns several homes throughout the world, including a massive estate in Lake Como, Italy. The actor has previously taken extensive security measures to keep his home in Italy private, and in 2015, local mayor Robert Pozzi reportedly imposed a $600 fine on anyone found trespassing near the actor’s property.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]View of George Clooney’s Italian house, Villa Oleandra, situated on Lake Como’s south-western shores, in Laglio, just 5 Kms from Cernobbio, 18 March 2006. AFP PHOTO / GIUSEPPE CACACE
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Actor George Clooney, center, Rep. Jim Moran, D-Va, back, and Clooney’s father, Nick Clooney, right, are arrested during a protest at the Sudanese Embassy in Washington, Friday, March 16, 2012. (AP Photo/Cliff Owen)
In July of last year, a makeshift refugee camp was established in Lake Como after the Swiss government decided to close its southern border with Italy. Dozens of refugees arrived from African and Asian countries were housed in tents close to the Clooneys’ home, with a local tour guide telling the Daily Mail that the refugee camps were a “big problem because of the huge numbers [of refugees] who are arriving all the time.”
On Monday, George and Amal were photographed with their newborn twins for the first time as they traveled to the Lake Como property by private jet for an Italian vacation. The actor is said to spend summers at his Italian estate.
Last month, Clooney sold his tequila company, Casamigos tequila, for $1 billion to UK beverage firm Diageo. The actor founded the tequila company in 2013 with friends and business partners Rande Gerber and Mike Meldman.
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Rather pleased you haven't, Donnamarie, given the source!
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I also read reports on German websites about them moving to the States. They all name one source, a website of a former GDR civil-rights activist who had been imprisoned for her fight. I always thought of her as a very accomplished person.
When I read the article they all referr to on her website, it was simply based on this rumor, nothing substantial. She simply didn't use a vocabulary like 'reportedly', 'might' or 'a source' but tells it as a fact.
When I googled her name I found out that her reputation in fact was quite questionable. She has been in several talk shows during he last few years and talked about 'fake news', 'lying press' etc but never named facts or even named news magazines wrong. The articles she posts on her website, are so much without any substance, so non-fact-based, that I was really shocked. Especially when you know that this person calles others to spread fake news...
When I read the article they all referr to on her website, it was simply based on this rumor, nothing substantial. She simply didn't use a vocabulary like 'reportedly', 'might' or 'a source' but tells it as a fact.
When I googled her name I found out that her reputation in fact was quite questionable. She has been in several talk shows during he last few years and talked about 'fake news', 'lying press' etc but never named facts or even named news magazines wrong. The articles she posts on her website, are so much without any substance, so non-fact-based, that I was really shocked. Especially when you know that this person calles others to spread fake news...
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Donnamarie - Breitbart just pretty much repeated the LifeandStyle story word for word. Nothing new - although the photo and description of the Como house was practically a roadmap to the place for any nut job who wanted to cause trouble. What surprises me is that they didn't slant the story more.
It's disturbing to me how far this story has traveled. It seems there are many outlets around the world with the same mindset as Breitbart and Trump. They're repeating the story even though the original source has been proven time and again to be totally unreliable. I guess any story is acceptable if it furthers their agenda - even if they know it isn't true.
It's disturbing to me how far this story has traveled. It seems there are many outlets around the world with the same mindset as Breitbart and Trump. They're repeating the story even though the original source has been proven time and again to be totally unreliable. I guess any story is acceptable if it furthers their agenda - even if they know it isn't true.
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The Fail has the same article it is ridiculous they don't care that what they are repeating isn't true.
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George and his wife have bought a lovely home in Oxfordshire, would be sad if he went to live in the USA ,his fans here in the UK would be so upset ( me included)
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Bonita the Brits are very lucky to have George living on your side of the pond. I don't believe that he and Amal have any plans to move. Especially after going through such a huge renovation project. I'm sure they feel pretty safe where they are and have made the proper security additions to the property.
I found the Breitbart article interesting in that in addition to just rehashing the Life and Style story was the idea that George was being a hypocrite because of his stance on open borders. Just Breitbart's way of not only promoting fake news but taking the opportunity to take a jab at George who they consider is part of the "Hollywood elite".
I found the Breitbart article interesting in that in addition to just rehashing the Life and Style story was the idea that George was being a hypocrite because of his stance on open borders. Just Breitbart's way of not only promoting fake news but taking the opportunity to take a jab at George who they consider is part of the "Hollywood elite".
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Sonning is a beautiful place, its near Henley and other wonderful towns, the Thames Valley is one of the safest places to live in, I moved to the area back in 20001 ( 16 years ago)
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It's the same story again.
Telling people that refugees and immigrants are dangerous who just want to kill us, and there are always people who believe them. Yes, very few people who planned terror attacks, are immigrants. Most of them were people living in a country for their whole life.
Every terror attack is horrible, and so is every rampage. And, to repeat it over and over again, the number of people who are killed every day in the States because every idiot is allowed to be aremed to the teeth, is much higher than the number of people who are killed in terror attacks.
By the way: Welcome bonita! I'm German and will be going to Oxfordshire in two weeks to visit friends.
Telling people that refugees and immigrants are dangerous who just want to kill us, and there are always people who believe them. Yes, very few people who planned terror attacks, are immigrants. Most of them were people living in a country for their whole life.
Every terror attack is horrible, and so is every rampage. And, to repeat it over and over again, the number of people who are killed every day in the States because every idiot is allowed to be aremed to the teeth, is much higher than the number of people who are killed in terror attacks.
By the way: Welcome bonita! I'm German and will be going to Oxfordshire in two weeks to visit friends.
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Carolhathaway thank you for your kind and re-assuring message.You are quite right, idiots in the USA are armed I would be very frightened walking the streets over there.carolhathaway wrote:It's the same story again.
Telling people that refugees and immigrants are dangerous who just want to kill us, and there are always people who believe them. Yes, very few people who planned terror attacks, are immigrants. Most of them were people living in a country for their whole life.
Every terror attack is horrible, and so is every rampage. And, to repeat it over and over again, the number of people who are killed every day in the States because every idiot is allowed to be aremed to the teeth, is much higher than the number of people who are killed in terror attacks.
By the way: Welcome bonita! I'm German and will be going to Oxfordshire in two weeks to visit friends.
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Bonita - I have to come to the defense of my country. Yes, there is a lot o gun violence - but for the most part the targets are personal, just as the victims of violence tend to be everywhere else. Either that or its crime/gang related, which tends to occur in specific areas where gangs are prevalent - as it is everywhere else. For the most part you're as safe walking the streets here as you would be in any other country - maybe safer than in some.
I think the perception of violence here is due in part to the fact that we are a very large country with a large and diverse population. If you think of each state as a separate country instead of the US as a whole, maybe the crime rate wouldn't seem as daunting.
I'm not saying gun violence isn't a problem - it is - but this really isn't the Wild West with shoot-em-ups on every corner!
I think the perception of violence here is due in part to the fact that we are a very large country with a large and diverse population. If you think of each state as a separate country instead of the US as a whole, maybe the crime rate wouldn't seem as daunting.
I'm not saying gun violence isn't a problem - it is - but this really isn't the Wild West with shoot-em-ups on every corner!
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Thank you for putting this into perspective, very much appreciated ,its usually the media who tends to exaggerate about issues such as gun violence. However, I do remember the terrible gun tragedy of Hungerford back in the 80s, and Dunblane. Going on holiday to the USA in the future has not put me off at all!!
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Just to add as a U.S. citizen I feel very safe where I live. There is a real problem with gun violence in our country but as Lizzy said much of it stems from personal squabbles that end up going bad or its gang related. There are definitely too many guns in our country!
Where I live we get lots of tourists from all over the world visiting year round. We rarely ever have any issues. For the most part our law enforcement does a great job of protecting its citizens . Not saying we don't have our share of idiots in America. We DO! But so does every country!
Bonita, just so you know depending on what you want to talk about you need to post your comments on the proper thread (check topic heading). Sometimes we get off topic a bit (like I did just now) and someone reminds us to move the conversation to the appropriate thread. Generally when we talk about serious subjects not related to George we post our comments in 'The Serious Side' thread. Then there is our 'Chit Chat' thread which is for much lighter discussions.
Where I live we get lots of tourists from all over the world visiting year round. We rarely ever have any issues. For the most part our law enforcement does a great job of protecting its citizens . Not saying we don't have our share of idiots in America. We DO! But so does every country!
Bonita, just so you know depending on what you want to talk about you need to post your comments on the proper thread (check topic heading). Sometimes we get off topic a bit (like I did just now) and someone reminds us to move the conversation to the appropriate thread. Generally when we talk about serious subjects not related to George we post our comments in 'The Serious Side' thread. Then there is our 'Chit Chat' thread which is for much lighter discussions.
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I know this is the wrong place for this, but since Donnamarie brought up the "rules" - has anyone heard from Nicky or LornaDoone? We need our mods to keep us on track and they seem to have abandoned us! Do we need new volunteers to take over the job? I'd gladly do it, but I'm not computer savvy enough. Any ideas?
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Lizzy, I'm 97% sure I saw a post from LornaDoone recently, in one of the 'congratulations on the babies' threads. I meant to answer and say 'Long time no see,' or something, but I got distracted and never got back to it.
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Thanks! Now that you mention it, I seem to remember seeing a post from her recently, too. I guess she's too busy to post very often.Way2Old4Dis wrote:Lizzy, I'm 97% sure I saw a post from LornaDoone recently, in one of the 'congratulations on the babies' threads. I meant to answer and say 'Long time no see,' or something, but I got distracted and never got back to it.
Since the mods aren't around, does anyone know how to move this discussion over to "July Chit Chat" where it belongs? If you do, please move it. It doesn't belong here.
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[size=48]George Clooney NOT Moving Amal And Twins “Back To LA For Security Reasons,” Despite Report[/size]
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.](Getty Images)By Shari Weiss | 12:44 pm, July 7th, 2017
George Clooney is not moving wife Amal and their twins “back to L.A.” for security reasons, despite a report. While a number of outlets have picked up the story, Gossip Cop has exclusively confirmed with Clooney’s rep that the claims are untrue.
The false rumor comes from Life & Style, which wrongly asserts Clooney “recently made plans to move back to L.A., for the safety of his family, after the latest spate of terror attacks in England.” A so-called “insider” is quoted as saying, “He doesn’t feel like Amal and the twins are safe living in the English countryside. He’s determined to move his family to L.A., where he feels much more secure.”
The tabloid asserts both Clooney and Amal, a human rights lawyer, have been targeted with “very serious threats” in the past, but “when George learned that he was going to be a father, those [safety] concerns went into overdrive.” The supposed source contends to the gossip magazine, “As soon as Amal found out she was pregnant, he hired former Secret Service agents to assess all his properties and make recommendations for improvement. His mansion in Studio City was deemed the most secure, and it’s within minutes of an LAPD station.”
“He’s waited so long for this family. He’ll do whatever it takes to keep them safe,” adds the publication’s purported tipster. While Gossip Cop has no doubt Clooney wants his growing family to remain safe and unharmed, he is not moving to Los Angeles out of security fears. The truth is that the Oscar winner never actually moved away from the city.
“They’ve never left L.A. They live in London AND L.A.,” a rep for Clooney tells Gossip Cop exclusively. While the couple has mostly been spending the last few months abroad, we’re told they plan to continue dividing their time between the two residences. It may not be an even split, but nothing is changing. And it seems nothing has changed with Life & Style, either.
The tabloid is still peddling misinformation about the Clooneys, even after its 2015 cover story that wrongly claimed George and Amal were on the brink of a “nasty $200 million divorce.” More recently, in May, the magazine seemingly fabricated an article about the Clooneys having “baby drama” before the birth of their twins. In actuality, the pair was in a state of bliss and still are.
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Yep. Saw that last night PAN. The problem is that after so many outlets have already picked up this fake story how many will retract it? Even Russ Limbaugh, an idiot right wing political hack and another purveyor of fake news, picked up this story. The right wing can't stand George and love to make him out as a rich liberal Hollywood elitist.
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LizzyNY wrote:I know this is the wrong place for this, but since Donnamarie brought up the "rules" - has anyone heard from Nicky or LornaDoone? We need our mods to keep us on track and they seem to have abandoned us! Do we need new volunteers to take over the job? I'd gladly do it, but I'm not computer savvy enough. Any ideas?
Has anyone seen or heard of George Clooney over the last few years.....
Sorry Lizzy couldn't resist..... Oh this roller coaster must be coming to an end soon.... and George might get off..... intact......
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None of them will.Donnamarie wrote:Yep. Saw that last night PAN. The problem is that after so many outlets have already picked up this fake story how many will retract it?
Understand this: most of the entertainment media (including the Daily Fail) don't actually care if the story they print is true or not. Accurate or not. Ethical or not. So they won't retract because it doesn't matter to them.
Remember that Hollywood publicists lied to journalists for close to a century now about their clients and there's always been an element of horse trading ("I'll give you gossip about this star in exchange for your not printing a story about that star") so they've always published 'news' that they knew or suspected to be untrue. Nowadays it's just taken on a life of its own and publicists aren't required to generate stories any more.
As for the right-wing websites, they'll happily print anything that plays into their agenda and I don't think they actually could tell the difference between truth and wishful thinking in the first place. They certainly don't care to differentiate.
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So true Katie ....
It's the right-wing sites that really bother me tho. They do real harm in making up their own truth and their agenda is far more frightening and consequential than what has gone on in Hollywood for years and years.
It's the right-wing sites that really bother me tho. They do real harm in making up their own truth and their agenda is far more frightening and consequential than what has gone on in Hollywood for years and years.
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Re: George reportedly 'very worried about living in the UK'
Donnamarie wrote:So true Katie ....
It's the right-wing sites that really bother me tho. They do real harm in making up their own truth and their agenda is far more frightening and consequential than what has gone on in Hollywood for years and years.
I just googled George's name and watched pics on instagram, and it still continues. Which really annoys me (if not saying that it f...s me up). They have pics of them and the babies touching down in Milan and write that they are leaving Europe - do they have any idea that Milan actually IS in Europe. And more concerning, it's in Italy where most refugees first come to Europe (and it's a long way from the Mefiterranean Sea to Britain). Can't they just the little brain they have?
By the way: Talking about safety and feeling save:
I just returned from Hamburg where my husband and me had spent the weekend with my brother-in-law, and due to the riots there I'd gotten lots of phonecalls from friends who were concerned about our safety. We even thought about cancelling our trip, but since my in-law had booked theatre tickets decided to go there. We avoided the areas with lots of chaos, saw some police when we left the main station, but that's all! And it was a terrific weekend, we saw an awesome play and met lots of very nice people.
Yes, we should think about where we go. No, we shouldn't fear the fear so much that it stops us from going anywhere.
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It amazes me that anyone takes as fact anything said by someone so stupid that they don't even know that Italy is part of Europe. I think some of these people have spent their whole lives under a rock, from which place they can safely troll people they know nothing about. UGH! There are no words!
I'm really glad you didn't cancel your trip and that it all went off safely. I m constantly amazed by your outlook on the world and how brave you are. You remind me of George. I wish more people were like you.
I'm really glad you didn't cancel your trip and that it all went off safely. I m constantly amazed by your outlook on the world and how brave you are. You remind me of George. I wish more people were like you.
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This is what is so damaging about the Internet Lizzy. A story gets printed, true or not, and then spreads like wildfire. Facts seem irrelevant and media outlets know it!
Carol, what you are reading is what I'm reading here in the states. The reader gets to decide if the info is legit or not ... It seems people just take the information they are being fed at face value ... without considering the source. Unnamed sources should always to be questioned.
Carol, glad you had a nice weekend trip to Hamburg. I thought about asking you a couple of days ago what the reaction was in Germany to Trump being there and how the riots are being perceived. From my vantage point these protests don't seem well organized or have an overriding theme. Seems like they just want attention. The only consistency these groups have is to show up at all these summits to cause havoc. Just my opinion....
Carol, what you are reading is what I'm reading here in the states. The reader gets to decide if the info is legit or not ... It seems people just take the information they are being fed at face value ... without considering the source. Unnamed sources should always to be questioned.
Carol, glad you had a nice weekend trip to Hamburg. I thought about asking you a couple of days ago what the reaction was in Germany to Trump being there and how the riots are being perceived. From my vantage point these protests don't seem well organized or have an overriding theme. Seems like they just want attention. The only consistency these groups have is to show up at all these summits to cause havoc. Just my opinion....
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Donnamarie, I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't know why those people are rioting. I wanted to ask but didn't want to sound stupid for not seeing a point to their protests. Is it a conglomeration of many complaints and groups? I don't have a clue.
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Donnamarie wrote:This is what is so damaging about the Internet Lizzy. A story gets printed, true or not, and then spreads like wildfire. Facts seem irrelevant and media outlets know it!
Carol, what you are reading is what I'm reading here in the states. The reader gets to decide if the info is legit or not ... It seems people just take the information they are being fed at face value ... without considering the source. Unnamed sources should always to be questioned.
Carol, glad you had a nice weekend trip to Hamburg. I thought about asking you a couple of days ago what the reaction was in Germany to Trump being there and how the riots are being perceived. From my vantage point these protests don't seem well organized or have an overriding theme. Seems like they just want attention. The only consistency these groups have is to show up at all these summits to cause havoc. Just my opinion....
Donna,
I think that many people seem to be overextended with having to decide if they trust a report or don't. So it's easier to say 'I trust this source because their opinion agrees with my own' than to check different sources. Facebook is a good example because they've got certain algorhythms which affirm your own opinion. And if you just listen to Fox News and Breitbart in the States or Murdoch's medias in Britain (of course we've got similar ones in Germany), your life is quite easy: The others are the bad ones, and if they would disappear, your life would be great again!
There seems to be a parallel world...
The summit in Hamburg - well, I guess that everybody knew before that there would be protests. Everybody has the right to rally in Germany, it's very difficult to ban it but the authorities have the right (and the duty) to condition it to avoid what happened in Hamburg. Here we sometimes have demonstrations of right-wing groups against a certain cause, and then there are left-wing and civil liberties groups who want to rally against them. Both of them have the right to express their opinion (freedom of opinion), so the authorities have to make sure the groups don't meet, there are enough police etc.
To say that they had planned to rally without attacking anybody or anything, seems to be quite strange when they name the demonstration 'Welcome to hell'. There were groups from all over Europe who came to Hamburg to cause chaos, I absolutely agree with you. And that's a shame for those who really wanted to share their opinion and critisize politics and economy...
By the way: I watched a play after the book 'Submission' by Michel Houllebecq. I haven't read the book before (got it from my in-law today), but the play was just fantastic.
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So these are not organized protests about a specific issue, but a lot of different groups protesting about a lot of different causes? And the G20 just gave them an opportunity to protest their individual complaints? Got it, I think.
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Lizzy,
at least that's my impression.
When we headed to Hamburg on Saturday, we heard an interview with an official speaker of the protesters saying that he doesn't judge the havoc which was caused during the first night, but in his opinion they should have taken place in other areas of the city, mainly in the rich areas.
There were protesters who set cars on fire. I've no idea how to do this but I guess you needn't just a lighter to do so. There were those who threw stones. These stones weren't available, they had been part of the pavement. The helicopters showed that on top of some occupied houses people had prepared heavy paving stone and firebombs, apparently to be thrown when the police would try to enter the building.
IMO that's not a normal protest, that's the try to havoc.
On the other hand, there were groups who wanted to mention pollution, climate change, supporting the Third World, capitalism, globalization etc, but they disappeared because of the havoc - which is a shame for me.
at least that's my impression.
When we headed to Hamburg on Saturday, we heard an interview with an official speaker of the protesters saying that he doesn't judge the havoc which was caused during the first night, but in his opinion they should have taken place in other areas of the city, mainly in the rich areas.
There were protesters who set cars on fire. I've no idea how to do this but I guess you needn't just a lighter to do so. There were those who threw stones. These stones weren't available, they had been part of the pavement. The helicopters showed that on top of some occupied houses people had prepared heavy paving stone and firebombs, apparently to be thrown when the police would try to enter the building.
IMO that's not a normal protest, that's the try to havoc.
On the other hand, there were groups who wanted to mention pollution, climate change, supporting the Third World, capitalism, globalization etc, but they disappeared because of the havoc - which is a shame for me.
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Ok, let's bring this thread back on topic, please! I find this an interesting conversation, so maybe you guys would like to carry on this conversation in the July chit chat thread?
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Katie - This topic could fit right into the Serious Side thread. If I knew how, I'd move it myself. Sorry I'm so clueless!
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Only the mods or I can move posts around and I don't have the patience today, sorry. What you can do if you want is click on 'multi quote' on the various posts, then hit 'reply' and copy that. Then paste that into the serious side thread. That way you've copied all the posts into a different thread.
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