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Post by annemarie on Tue 20 Jun 2017, 23:38

Kentucky voted for Trump.

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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by LizzyNY on Wed 21 Jun 2017, 11:15

annemarie, I know. Kentucky is a Republican state. I just wonder how George could grow up there and turn out the way he did. Nick's influence, I suppose.
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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by annemarie on Wed 21 Jun 2017, 16:37

Lizzy , I think Nick and Nina's influence.

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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by annemarie on Thu 22 Jun 2017, 12:41

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4628330/Trump-ban-migrants-welfare-five-years.html





[size=34]Trump wants to ban immigrants from accessing welfare within five years of entering the US[/size]

  • Legislation coming 'very shortly' to change rules on welfare for immigrants

  • President said 'time has come' as he addressed fans in Cedar Rapids, Iowa

  • He also told U.S. Cellular Center his wall with Mexico might be a 'solar wall'  


By IAIN BURNS FOR MAILONLINE and ASSOCIATED PRESS
PUBLISHED: 05:32 EDT, 22 June 2017 | UPDATED: 05:58 EDT, 22 June 2017

    


President Donald Trump has said he will pursue legislation that would bar immigrants from being eligible for welfare for at least five years. 
At a rally in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, last night he said 'the time has come' for 'new immigration rules' that would require those seeking admission to the country to be able to support themselves financially and would bar the use of welfare for a period of at least five years.
He said his administration would be 'putting in legislation to that effect very shortly.'
It is unclear, however, how Trump's proposal would change the current situation.
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President Donald Trump told fans he would ensure legislation on immigrants' access to state aid will be put forward 'very shortly'. Pictured: Trump addresses his supporters in Cedar Rapids, Iowa 

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Pictured: A smiling Trump addresses his backers at the U.S. Cellular Center. He told them he was thinking about making the planned wall along the country's southern border a 'solar wall' and that this way, 'Mexico will have to pay much less money'.
U.S. immigration law already bars most foreigners who enter the country on immigrant visas from being eligible for federal benefits like Social Security and food stamps for the first five years. 
States typically have the authority to determine eligibility for local programs.
Foreigners with non-immigrant visas and those who don't have legal status are generally prohibited from those benefits altogether. 

Video from NBC News 
Trump's plan would also allow the US to refuse entry to people who are likely to need state assistance by becoming a 'public charge'. 
Such a concept has been a feature in American law for many years, but the new president is expected to ensure it is enforced as well as strengthening restrictions.
According to Fox News, the president is expected to refer to a Center for Immigration Studies report from 2015, which found that 51 per cent of households headed by a non-US citizen were benefiting from some kind of state aid.


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It was unsure what would be new in the legislation as U.S. immigration law already bars most foreigners who enter the country on immigrant visas from being eligible for federal benefits like Social Security and food stamps for the first five years. Pictured: President Trump in Iowa last night
In US-born citizens, that figure was found to be 30 per cent. 
The president also told supporters at the U.S. Cellular Center that he is thinking about 'building the wall [along the U.S.-Mexico border] as a solar wall'.
He added: 'This way, Mexico will have to pay much less money.'

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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by Donnamarie on Thu 22 Jun 2017, 14:36

Trump's rally in Iowa was pure Trump. I listen to him and I think what a dumb man. He told more lies and his arguments were totally inarticulate garbage. But his supporters still think he's great. They still love everything he stands for. He is still "winning" in his mind. His supporters are still with him for the most part. And that is all that matters.
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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by annemarie on Thu 22 Jun 2017, 16:41

This is just sad how low America has gone all because of one man.

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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by LizzyNY on Thu 22 Jun 2017, 17:14

annemarie - If it was just "one man" we wouldn't be in the mess we're in. Unfortunately there are many people who will support him no matter what he does or says and a cynical political party that will do anything to stay in power. As long as they think his base still supports him they will, too. They won't challenge him unless they think their jobs are in jeopardy.
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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by annemarie on Thu 22 Jun 2017, 17:16

http://people.com/politics/trump-doesnt-want-poor-person-in-cabinet-role/


[size=37]President Trump Says He Doesn’t Want a ‘Poor Person’ in Cabinet Role[/size]

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Contradicting rhetoric from his presidential campaign, President Donald Trumpexplained why he chose Wall Street billionaires for several of his Cabinet roles during a campaign-style rally in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, Wednesday evening.
“So somebody said, ‘Why did you appoint a rich person to be in charge of the economy?’ I said, ‘Because that’s the kind of thinking we want … because they’re representing the country. They don’t want the money. And they had to give up a lot to take these jobs.”
“We can’t have the world taking advantage of us anymore,” Trump added. “And I love all people, rich or poor, but in those particular positions, I just don’t want a poor person,” Trump added. “Does that make sense? If you insist, I’ll do it — but I like it better this way, right?”
Trump appointed a number of Wall Street executives to his Cabinet, including Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross of WL Ross & Co., and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin of Goldman Sachs.
Gary Cohn, the former president and COO of Goldman Sachs, is now Trump’s chief economic adviser and director of the National Economic Council.



“He went from massive pay days to peanuts,” Trump said of Cohn at the rally.
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During his campaign in 2016, Trump railed against his opponents for their ties to Wall Street. He frequently criticized Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton for accepting money from Goldman Sachs to deliver speeches.
And, while Trump painted Wall Street executives as champions of the economy in his speech on Wednesday, he strongly criticized them in Jan. 2016 at a rally in Iowa.
“I know Wall Street,” Trump said, according to the Wall Street Journal. “I know the people on Wall Street … I’m not going to let Wall Street get away with murder. Wall Street has caused tremendous problems for us.”
This article originally appeared on Time.com

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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by Donnamarie on Thu 22 Jun 2017, 19:45

That was one of the dumb comments he made last night.

I think Trump will keep at least a 20% base no matter how much hot water he gets into. Even if he gets impeached or resigns. They will support him and blame the fake Main Street media and the Washington establishment for his downfall. And they will never admit they were wrong. Just my opinion.
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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by party animal - not! on Thu 22 Jun 2017, 23:28

I may be wrong but I think he plays on people's stupidity - the distraction of twitter rages, the pretence (as in today's news that he's had a brilliant idea for solar panels on 'the wall' when it was an environmentalist and and an academic's idea earlier last year - and the endless hoodwinking on 'facts' and simplistic phrases like how the health plan looked 'mean' when actually the republicans are the ones ramping it up in their favour..........what I don't really understand is the often lacking challenge on what he's said in interviews. They seem very respectful to the interviewer - not many Rottweilers in America!

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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by annemarie on Thu 22 Jun 2017, 23:58

They will never admit they are wrong it is crazy to me are they too stupid to see
nothing is going to get better for them only worse.

He is just as stupid as the people who follow him . I think if you push him or say something he doesn't like he will simply not talk to you so you get no interview at all.
Spoiled child his way or he will have a tantrum and ban you.

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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by Donnamarie on Fri 23 Jun 2017, 18:03

Didn't know the right place to post so hope this thread is ok.

On the heels of the movie 'The Promise' here's an article with a video of George (at the end) and other celebs in support of keeping the promise for refugees. Plus check out the music video featuring Chris Cornell who committed suicide several weeks ago. Touching and heartbreaking.

http://people.com/music/chris-cornell-keep-the-promise-refugee-advocacy-clooney-jlo-video/
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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by annemarie on Mon 26 Jun 2017, 14:06

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4639050/Trump-eager-big-meeting-Putin-advisers-wary.html

[size=34]Trump is 'pressing for big meeting' with Putin at next month's G20 summit despite warnings from his advisers[/size]

  • Trump wants to hold bilateral meeting with Putin next month, source says

  • That is despite warnings that it will look bad amid ongoing Russian investigation 

  • Russian state media announced the two leaders would meet back in May

  • It would be their first face-to-face encounter since Trump won the presidency 


By ASSOCIATED PRESS
PUBLISHED: 03:36 EDT, 26 June 2017 | UPDATED: 08:08 EDT, 26 June 2017

    
President Donald Trump is eager to meet President Putin when the two are in Germany for the G20 summit next month, an administration source says.
Trump and others within his administration have been pressing for a full bilateral meeting between the two men, rather than a simple 'pull aside' at the main summit or a meeting between other delegation officials, the source said.
That is despite warnings from others within the State Department and National Security Council who are worried about how the meeting will look amidst the ongoing investigation into possible Russia meddling in the 2016 election.  


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Donald Trump and members of his administration are pushing for a full bilateral meeting with Vladimir Putin when the two are in Germany for the next G20 summit


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The President is reported to be keen to meet with Putin despite warnings that it could play badly amid the ongoing probe into Russian meddling in the 2016 election
Many administration officials believe the U.S. needs to maintain its distance from Russia at such a sensitive time - and interact only with great caution.
Trump is calling for media access and all the typical protocol associated with such sessions, according to a current and a former administration official.
Some advisers have recommended that the president instead do either a quick, informal 'pull-aside' on the sidelines of the summit.

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Others believe that the U.S. and Russian delegations hold 'strategic stability talks,' which typically don't involve the presidents. The officials spoke anonymously to discuss private policy discussions.
The contrasting views underscore differing views within the administration on overall Russia policy, and Trump's eagerness to develop a working relationship with Russia despite the ongoing investigations.
There are potential benefits to a meeting with Putin. A face-to-face meeting can humanize the two sides and often removes some of the intrigue involved in impersonal, telephone communication. 


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Trump and Putin have exchanged complements and telephone calls in the past, but have not yet met face-to-face
Trump - who posits himself as the ultimate dealmaker - has repeatedly suggested that he can replace the Obama-era damage in the U.S.-Russia relationship with a partnership, particularly on issues like the ongoing Syria conflict.
There are big risks, though. Trump is known to veer off-script, creating the possibility for a high-stakes diplomatic blunder. 
In a brief Oval Office meeting with top Russian diplomats last month, Trump revealed highly classified information about an Islamic State group threat to airlines that was relayed to him by Israel, according to a senior administration official. 
The White House defended the disclosures as 'wholly appropriate.'
In addition, many observers warn that Putin is not to be trusted.
Oleg Kalugin, a former general with Russia's main security agency, known as the KGB, said Putin, a shrewd and experienced politician, has 'other priorities' than discussing the accusations that Russia hacked the U.S. election with Trump.
Issues on the Russian leader's mind will likely include easing sanctions, raising oil prices, and next year's presidential elections in Russia, Kalugin said.
'Putin knows how to redirect a conversation in his favor,' he added.
Nina Khrushcheva, a Russian affairs professor at the New School, said Trump is in an 'impossible position.'
'He can't be too nice to Putin because it's going to be interpreted in a way that suggests he has a special relationship with Russia,' she said. 
'He can't be too mean because Putin has long arms and KGB thinking. 
'So Trump needs to have a good relationship with him but he also needs to fulfill his campaign promises of establishing better relations with Russia.'


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Trump has pledged to mend relations with Russia after Barack Obama imposed harsh sanctions on Putin's regime following the annexation of Crimea
The White House said no final decision has been made about whether a meeting will take place. It did not respond to questions about the opposing views within the administration.
Bilateral meetings are common during summits like the G20, where many world leaders and their advisers are gathered in one place. 
The meetings are typically highly choreographed affairs, with everything from the way the two leaders shake hands to the looks that they exchange and the actual words spoken offering glimpses into the state of affairs.
The last U.S.-Russia bilateral meeting was a 2015 encounter between Putin and President Barack Obama that began with an awkward handshake and ended with progress on the brutal civil war in Syria.
That 2015 meeting, the first in two years, involved a 90-minute sit-down at U.N. headquarters. 
Putin and U.S. officials later said the two leaders had made progress on issues related to Syria, which had strained their already tense relationship. 
For the Obama administration, cautious engagement was the name of the game, with the U.S. working tirelessly to find middle ground with Moscow on Syria, Ukraine and other issues.
The disconnect between Trump and his advisers in the State Department and National Security Council over Russia runs deeper than the debate over a G20 bilateral.
A former administration official said that frustration is growing among foreign policy advisers over the failure of the White House to embrace a more cautious and critical approach to Russia. 
All 17 U.S. intelligence agencies have agreed Russia was behind last year's hack of Democratic email systems and tried to influence the 2016 election to benefit Trump.
Trump has to directly 'say to Putin, 'We're not happy about you interfering in our election,'' said Steven Pifer, a former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine. 
'If you don't say that, you are going to get hammered by the press and Congress and you can guarantee Congress will pass sanctions legislation against Russia.'
'They also need to keep their expectations very, very modest,' added Pifer. 'If they aim for a homerun in Hamburg, my guess is they'll strike out.'

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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by annemarie on Mon 26 Jun 2017, 17:44

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4640028/Supreme-Court-act-travel-ban-Kennedy-retire.html

[size=34]Trump claims 'clear victory' after Supreme Court says his 'Muslim' travel ban can go into effect NOW against people without U.S. ties[/size]

  • Supreme Court justices will act on Trump's travel ban in the fall, and allowed a major part of it to go into effect immediately

  • Refugees and others from six Muslim-majority countries who already have a 'bona fide relationship' with legal U.S. residents will be allowed to come

  • While the case is pending, the lower court's injunction will apply only to those people who have no U.S. ties

  • Rumors also abound in Washington, DC that Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy, 80, may announce his retirement on Monday


By DAVID MARTOSKO, US POLITICAL EDITOR  and FRANCESCA CHAMBERS, WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT FOR DAILYMAIL.COM and WIRES
PUBLISHED: 09:41 EDT, 26 June 2017 | UPDATED: 12:31 EDT, 26 June 2017

    

President Donald Trump took a victory lap on Monday after the Supreme Court restored most of his executive order banning incoming travel from six terror-prone countries. 
'Today's unanimous Supreme Court decision is a clear victory for our national security,' the president said in a statement shortly after the high court ruled. 'It allows the travel suspension for the six terror-prone countries and the refugee suspension to become largely effective.' 
The Supreme Court said it will decide in the fall whether or not the travel ban is constitutional. Liberal state attorneys general have argued that it amounts to a religious test for entry into the U.S. since the affected countries all have Muslim majorities.
The court said that while the wheels of justice turn, the Trump administration can enforce the executive order against anyone from those nations who doesn't already have a 'bona fide relationship' with a U.S. citizen or legal resident.
The stopgap measure, announced Monday morning, is largely a victory for Trump, who will be allowed – at least temporarily – to stem the flow of immigrants and refugees from Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen.
Trump has said he would put his ban into effect 72 hours after the Supreme Court gives him a green light.  

Technically, the justices left a lower court injunction in place, but only for people whose cases mirror those of the original plaintiffs – meaning 'foreign nationals who have a credible claim of a bona fide relationship with a person or entity in the United States.'
'All other foreign nationals are subject to the provisions of [the executive order],' the court ruled.



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President Donald Trump won a major victory – at least for now – on Monday, as the Supreme Court allowed him to enforce most of his travel ban against people from six terror-prone and Muslim-majority countries


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Supreme Court justices decided to limit the reach of a lower court's injunction against Trump's travel ban, allowing much of it to take affect – at least until the high court hears the case formally in the fall


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There are rumors that Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy, 80, could announce his retirement from the bench as soon as this week

Trump framed the decision as a win for national security, mirroring his claims that controlling travel entries is a vital anti-terror tool. 
'As President, I cannot allow people into our country who want to do us harm,' he said Monday. 'I want people who can love the United States and all of its citizens, and who will be hardworking and productive.'
'My number one responsibility as Commander in Chief is to keep the American people safe. Today's ruling allows me to use an important tool for protecting our Nation's homeland.'
The administration has also said the ban was needed to allow an internal review of the screening procedures for visa applicants from the six countries.
That review should be complete before October 2, the first day the justices could hear arguments in their new term.
The Supreme Court could have a vacancy by the time that autumn session rolls around, if Justice Anthony decides to retire as some expect.
Kennedy did not use the occasion of Monday's scheduled high court announcements to say he would be stepping down.

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'Today's unanimous Supreme Court decision is a clear victory for our national security. It allows the travel suspension for the six terror-prone countries and the refugee suspension to become largely effective.
'As President, I cannot allow people into our country who want to do us harm. I want people who can love the United States and all of its citizens, and who will be hardworking and productive.
'My number one responsibility as Commander in Chief is to keep the American people safe. Today's ruling allows me to use an important tool for protecting our Nation's homeland. I am also particularly gratified that the Supreme Court’s decision was 9-0.'



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The media circus that usually accompanies a Supreme Court decision day was evident this morning in Washington outside the high court


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Trump launched a nationwide controversy by signing an executive order a week after his inauguration, barring the entry of refugees and other travelers from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen; Iraq was removed from a second version that the high court will review


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But if he does, President Donald Trump will have a second pick in the first months of his administration. Kennedy's departure could also allow conservatives to take firm control of the court.
Kennedy turns 81 next month and has been on the court for nearly 30 years. Several of his former law clerks have said they think he is contemplating stepping down in the next year or so.
Washington was abuzz with talk this weekend that President Donald Trump may soon have another chance to nominate a judge to the highest court in the land. 

If the speculation pans out, that would give Trump his second high court pick in the first months of his administration.


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The famed 'running of the interns' was a familiar sight on Monday as young staffers to news agencies hurried to bring written case decisions to their reporters and producers

[size=18]President Trump's travel ban will head to the Supreme Court


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Kennedy did not address the retirement rumors when he and his clerks gathered over the weekend for a reunion, according to three clerks who were there. The decision to push up the reunion by a year helped spark talk he might be leaving the court.
Kellyanne Conway, senior counselor to President Trump, declined Monday to join in on the conjecture.
'That is totally Justice Kennedy's decision and he has served for 30 years, almost 30 years, with distinction and care on the Court and that is entirely his decision,' she said on Fox & Friends. 
'I do know that the president, when he appointed Neil Gorsuch, made very clear that at any time that he gets a federal appointment, whether it's the Supreme Court level of the District courts the circuit courts, he will appoint people who have fidelity to the Constitution, they won't legislate from the bench, make it up as they go along.'
Conway had declined to say in a Sunday interview whether the president and Kennedy had discussed retirement.
'I will never reveal a conversation between a sitting justice and the president or the White House, but we're paying very close attention to these last bit of decisions,' she said on ABC News. 


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The original travel ban executive order triggered worldwide outrage as well as protests (above) in the United States like this one at New York City's John F. Kennedy International Airport


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In 2015, Kennedy wrote the majority opinion in Obergefell v. Hodges, the landmark case legalizing same sex marriage be made legal nationwide. Madeleine Troupe of Houston, Texas, wipes tears of joy after the Supreme Court legalized same sex marriage on June 26, 2015

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If Kennedy does retire, that means President Donald Trump would be able to nominate a second justice to the bench. Trump is seen above during the swearing-in of his first nominee, Neil Gorsuch, at the White House on April 10, 2017
Justice Kennedy, who is known as a moderate Republican, was nominated by then-President Ronald Reagan in 1987. 
Since Sandra Day O'Connor retired in 2006, Kennedy has been the key swing vote on a number of 5-4 decisions.
In 2015, Kennedy wrote the majority opinion in Obergefell v. Hodges, the landmark case whose ruling mandated that same sex marriage be made legal nationwide.
The concluding paragraph of Kennedy's 28-page majority opinion was even used by many same sex and heterosexual couples alike as their wedding vows.

[size=18]Donald Trump makes dig at Hillary Clinton during travel ban campaign



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'No union is more profound than marriage,' Kennedy's opinion says, 'for it embodies the highest ideals of love, fidelity, devotion, sacrifice and family. In forming a marital union, two people become something greater than once they were.' 
Several of his former law clerks have said they think he is contemplating stepping down in the next year or so. 
Kennedy and his clerks were gathering over the weekend for a reunion that was pushed up a year and helped spark talk he might be leaving the court.
'Soon we'll know if rumors of Kennedy's retirement are accurate,' one former Kennedy clerk, George Washington University law professor Orin Kerr, said on Twitter Friday.

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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by Donnamarie on Thu 29 Jun 2017, 20:14

Just adding my 2 cents to the story annemarie posted on the other thread about Trump's tweets today.  Just when I think I can't be any more appalled by what he says I read those tweets today and realize how low the office of the Presidency has sunk.  And Sanders, his enabling press flunkie comes out and DEFENDS his crap.  On top of that Melania did the same.  As a woman I'm disgusted with her now.  And she is supposedly heading up tackling the issue of cyber bullying as First Lady.  A total and utter joke.

I think we need another massive march on Washington to protest Trump. Maybe multiple protests all over the country. I feel like either people are becoming complacent with this man's behavior or they are incensed but don't have a voice loud enough to show their anger.


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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by annemarie on Thu 29 Jun 2017, 21:39

Melania can't say anything even if she were bright enough to have a thought. She doesn't want to lose her million dollar piggy bank and the Trump name.

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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by carolhathaway on Thu 29 Jun 2017, 21:47

Donna,
I have the same feeling: Every time I think he can't sink any lower, he does.
He lies, insults others, changes his opinions every five minutes - and there are always people who defend him. There doesn't seem to be any secretary who's able to advice him.

For me it's frightening to see how American politics have changed, what Trump destroyed in just five months, how much cretibility the States have lost.
We as the other partners in the NATO can't count on the States anymore, and that's really sad...
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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by LizzyNY on Thu 29 Jun 2017, 21:57

Donnamarie - I agree we need to take to the streets again, but I'm not sure it's going to happen -  not because people are complacent but because they're  exhausted and discouraged. It seems that no matter what Trump does or says, nothing changes. Congress is still a cesspool of self-interest and "the people" be damned. I wish there was a way to kick them all out and start from scratch.

The disappointment of our allies is painful to hear, but the frustration of having to live with this classless buffoon representing us is even worse. Saw something online about them wanting to make his grandfather's whorehouse into a museum. Fitting representation of the family, isn't it? Explains a lot.
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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by carolhathaway on Fri 30 Jun 2017, 06:36

One fact that also bothers me is that the US government doesn't seem to collaborate. Trump makes a political statement - usually on his private (!) twitter account, everybody reacts to that. Then a member of his government tries to conciliate the public, tells us that that's not what he wanted to say and is going to do. And Trump's next reaction is to onfirm his previous statement!

During his campaign he talked about the 'wonderful' wall he's going to build, and members of his team always tried to relativate this statement, said that he's not going to build a wall, just wants to limit the number of illegal immigrants. And I remember the press conference where Trump said triumphantly: "You didn't believe me when I said that we're going to build a wall. I meant exactly what I said. We're going to build that wall, and it's going to be huge and beautiful..."

If I hadn't known what to think about him before, I'd known it then...
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Post by Donnamarie on Fri 30 Jun 2017, 14:34

The government, carolhathaway, are the Republicans right now. They continue to dismiss, ignore, or excuse Donald Trump's words and behavior. A woman member of his Cabinet yesterday excused Trump's disgraceful tweets as a product of Trump being new to the office and not understanding how it works. No. His ignorance or possible naïveté cannot be used to excuse his demeaning and untrue comments. Most would agree that he should have come into the office prepared to act like a President.

The Republican Party will continue to enable him to enact their agenda. I personally don't understand how they go home and look in the mirror and say they are proud of the way they are representing the country, but that's the way it is right now. I really see our government in a constitutional crisis.

The world is watching. As you said carol, our country is losing respect and credibility at the hands of Trump. He is a joke. I'm embarrassed and ashamed of what is going on here. This president is not the leader of the free world. Nor is he looking out for his own country. It's ironic that instead of making America great again he has become an enemy of our Constitution and what it stands for.

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Post by annemarie on Fri 30 Jun 2017, 17:44

What is even scarier is the people who follow him and think he is doing a great job.
There is going to be the biggest mess to clean up when he is finally out. I don't envy the next President.

Basically, he doesn't understand how to have class and respect for others especially women. He never has so how would he now.

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Post by Donnamarie on Fri 30 Jun 2017, 19:52

Yep annemarie. Trump is delusional and so many of his supporters seem to be propagandized. A really scary scenario. It is being said more often now that Trump is truly mentally unstable. His latest tweets about the 'Morning Joe' news hosts seem to give evidence to that argument.
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Post by carolhathaway on Sat 01 Jul 2017, 14:32

Two weeks ago Helmut Kohl, former German chancellor, passed away at the age of 87. He was in charge when the wall came down and fought for a re-united country. After his death many Germans said that the unification of our country wasn't his credit because the people in East-Germany were rallying against their government which led to their resignment and to the opening of the borders to West-Germany. 
Which is true - but since Germany was still under occupation since the end of WW II, our former occupants had to agree with a reunited Germany. In 1990, many politicians critisized that Kohl wanted to unify our country as fast as  possible, they had preferred a longer period of stabilization. But Kohl knew that there was just a tiny time-slot to realize it. So he and his Secretary of State, Genscher, tried everything to convince the Allies. Margaret Thatcher from the UK wasn't a friend of a united Germany, feared its strength. But Kohl and Genscher were both friends with Mitterrand, Bush sr, Kissinger and Gorbachev, so they made it happen. Just one year later, Gorbachev had lost all his power and our unification hadn't happened. So it was his instinct which at least helped, and his power and influence as well. Otherwise another government in the GDR had been installed, would have closed the borders again, and many people would have died. This had happened before, in 1961.

When Genscher died last year, Kissinger spoke at his memorial service.
Today, Kohl's memorial service was held at the EU parliament in Strasbourg (the first European memorial service ever), and politicians from all over the world paid their respect. Bill Clinton spoke very kind words, and so did other politicians.
A very dignified service.


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Post by party animal - not! on Sat 01 Jul 2017, 15:07

And very well deserved I think. I've always got the impression he was a most caring and amiable man who sought political stability. It's unfortunate that his private life has sometimes been allowed to interfere with his cause for common good.

On the other side of the pond things are different I think. Definitely don't think Trump has any diplomatic qualities. What I don't understand is why the Republicans just won't get together against him to sort it all out. He just seems to me to be like the school bully who gets away with it.

I wonder if the reason is that the stock market is continuing to make huge gains for those who have money and that is what most Republicans care about the most. Maybe it will take a stock market slide for something - anything! - to happen.

Meantime this is an absolute must read - very scary....

https://lawfareblog.com/time-i-got-recruited-collude-russians

and this I really like:

http://imgur.com/PcsrzqC

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Post by Donnamarie on Sat 01 Jul 2017, 16:32

Thanks carol for that bit of backstory on Kohl's efforts to unify Germany. Not something I probably paid much attention to in real time.

PAN, just read the lawfare blog story. Fascinating! Wow. This whole Trump story just keeps getting murkier as time goes by. I can't wait to get to the last chapter. Soon I hope. Please!
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Post by party animal - not! on Sat 01 Jul 2017, 17:21

.....and Trump is demanding a PRIVATE meeting with Putin at the G20!! What's confounding me is that impressive people like MacMaster are sitting on the sidelines apparently shrugging their shoulders - or maybe not. Maybe he's screaming inside.

I think it's going to take many many months before we know anything - there seems to be an awful lot of stuff .And HUGE amounts of work, Donnamarie. The team Mueller has assembled is pretty amazing tho.

On the subject of Trumpcyberbullying (tempted to make that a hashtag!! Pity I don't have a Twitter account) his wife defends him while claiming to be leading and holding up high standards on the very same subject. Words fail me

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Post by Donnamarie on Sat 01 Jul 2017, 21:18

There is no way Trump should be allowed to have a private meeting with Putin! He should have very scripted remarks and someone with him to make sure he sticks to them.

McMaster has confounded me a bit too. He and Mattis have been pretty enabling of Trump's behavior. Maybe they are about to bust on the inside .... Look at the way Tillerson behaved last week in a White House meeting. Blew a gasket! Im sure some of these guys would like to quit. For the sake of the country they are hanging in there. That's what I have got to believe. I say they should quit and leave Trump hanging. I think something terrible has got to happen before some of Trump's support system will begin to hemorrhage. Their reputations are in jeopardy tho ....

Right ... This investigation is going to continue for months but Mueller does have a great staff. Still wouldn't put it past Trump to try and get him fired! The man is unhinged :/
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Post by annemarie on Sun 02 Jul 2017, 02:11

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4657852/Obama-takes-swipe-Trump-climate-change-policy.html

[size=34]Obama blasts Trump and the 'temporary absence of American leadership' as he discusses climate change policy at the end of his 10-day family vacation in Indonesia[/size]

  • Former US president adressed a crowd in Jakarta on Saturday to open the Fourth Congress of Indonesian Diaspora

  • He said Trump had caused a 'temporary absence of American leadership' by exiting the Paris climate agreement

  • Obama also shared wisdom about about tolerance and taking the daily news cycle in stride following Trump's latest dust-ups with the media

  • He has been touring Indonesia, which is his childhood home, with wife Michelle and their daughters Malia and Sasha

  • They visited ancient temples, went rafting and toured the resort island of Bali

  • Obama met with Indonesian President Joko Widodo on Friday


By EMILY CRANE FOR DAILYMAIL.COM and ASSOCIATED PRESS
PUBLISHED: 18:55 EDT, 1 July 2017 | UPDATED: 20:57 EDT, 1 July 2017

    

Barack Obama has taken a swipe at his successor, saying President Donald Trump had caused a 'temporary absence of American leadership' when it comes to climate change policy.
The former US president was addressing a crowd in Jakarta, which is his childhood home, to open the Fourth Congress of Indonesian Diaspora on Saturday at the end of his 10-day family vacation.
'In Paris, we came together around the most ambitious agreement in history about climate change, an agreement that even with the temporary absence of American leadership, can still give our children a fighting chance,' Obama said. 
Trump shocked many countries last month by announcing he was pulling out of the Paris climate agreement.


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Barack Obama took a swipe at his successor Donald Trump about climate change policy during a speech in Jakarta, Indonesia on Saturday
'The challenges of our times, whether it's economic inequality, changing climate, terrorism, mass migration; these are really challenges and we're going to have to confront them together,' Obama said. 
Obama also shared some wisdom about tolerance and taking the daily news cycle in stride, following another week of dust-ups between the media and Trump. 
Trump was condemned by both Democrats and Republicans for a tweet that attacked female MSNBC host Mika Brzezinski. 


In his remarks on Saturday, Obama stressed the importance of stepping away from news sites where only like-minded views are shared, and warned about social media giving rise to resentment of minorities and bad treatment of people.  
Obama's speech came on the final leg of his 10-day vacation in Indonesia with wife Michelle and their daughters Malia and Sasha. It marked his first trip to Asia since leaving office.  



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Obama's speech came on the final leg of his 10-day vacation in Indonesia with wife Michelle (right) and their daughters Malia (center) and Sasha (linking arms with her mother)


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Barack Obama took a golf-cart tour of Bogor Palace in West Java on Friday, where he and his family are staying as guests of Indonesian President Joko Widodo (right)


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Obama and Widodo were pictured later sitting down in the grounds of the palace
The family visited two of the most treasured ancient temples - Borobudur, a Buddhist complex, and the Hindu compound of Prambanan - in the world's most populous Muslim country. 
They also went river rafting and toured the resort island of Bali. 
On Friday, Obama met Indonesian President Joko Widodo at the grand Bogor Palace in West Java, just outside Jakarta. 

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In his speech on Saturday, Obama reminisced about moving to Jakarta in 1967 when he was just six years old, shouting: 'Indonesia bagian dari diri saya!' or 'Indonesia is part of me!' 
Obama is wildly popular in Indonesia, where many view him as an adopted son. A statue of the boy still remembered as 'Barry' stands outside his old elementary school.


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Former US President Barack Obama waves to a crowd of gathered tourists just as he enters the Prambanan Temple in Java on Thursday
He lived in the country with his mother and his Indonesian stepfather. The couple split up after having his half-sister and Obama moved back to Hawaii when he was 10 to live with his grandparents. 
But he said he has never forgotten the years he spent in Indonesia. 
'My time here made me cherish respect for people's differences,' he said.
He urged the country to be a light of democracy and to never stop embracing differences. Indonesia has faced a rise in Islamic radicalism and anti-gay attacks, and was recently condemned by rights groups for jailing Jakarta's former governor, an ethnic Chinese Christian, for blasphemy.
'The spirit of this country has to be one of tolerance. It's enshrined in Indonesia's constitution, it's symbolized by mosques and temples and churches beside each other,' Obama said. 
'That spirit is one of the defining things about Indonesia. It is one of the most important characteristics to set as an example for other Muslim countries around the world.'

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Post by carolhathaway on Sun 02 Jul 2017, 09:32

Did anybody read this tweet by an insane person who somehow managed to become POTUS?

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/880737163247267840

'If Republican Senators are unable to pass what they are working on now, they should immediately REPEAL, and then REPLACE at a later date!'

If that's a statement about healthcare (which I assume), this shows what he really wants!
His healthcare plan would leave many more Americans without a healthcare, if he'd repeal Obamacare, it would never be replaced...
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Post by party animal - not! on Sun 02 Jul 2017, 10:07

Exactly, Carol. I think this has been his plan all along - that all the Obamacare insurers pull out (which they're already doing) leaving people with no choice but to sign up to the more expensive schemes, thereby making more money for his cronies.

And many Republicans can say that they said this would happen and feel very smug about it.

It's been their mantra all along and Trump simply doesn't care.

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Post by annemarie on Sun 02 Jul 2017, 10:24

He never has cared and people bought his bull. The Republicans aren't that stupid they know that can't have all these people with no healthcare.

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Post by party animal - not! on Sun 02 Jul 2017, 10:37

........and now he wants all your personal data from state polling stations - (just to check, you know !)

How can that possibly be allowed? Surely there are privacy laws?

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Post by annemarie on Sun 02 Jul 2017, 15:13

Pan I actually read where they don't understand why states won't release the information. Really, it's private and none of your business. This is supposed to be they are trying to find out if millions voted illegally. Which is impossible to begin with but you know anything to keep you from noticing what the infant is up to.

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Post by Donnamarie on Sun 02 Jul 2017, 15:35

At least 25 states have either partially or completely refused to hand over the personal information of voters that this Trump commission is requesting. Some of the states said that their state laws prohibit releasing certain info on voters. But others are refusing based solely on the pretext and motivation for this action.

I thought the Governor of Virginia said it just right. "This entire commission is based on the specious and false notion that there was widespread voter fraud last November. ... At best this commission was set up as a pretext to validate Donald Trump's alternative election facts, and at worst is a tool to commit large scale voter suppression."

Bottom line - the Republicans have been trying for years to suppress voter turnout during elections. Having Trump on their side just adds weight to their efforts. But the Supreme Court has recently ruled against North Carolina and Texas for doing just that ...

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Post by party animal - not! on Sun 02 Jul 2017, 16:42

Of course some are now thinking all the playground bully tweeting is about the fact that Fox ratings are way down and so he's having a go at MSNBC and CNN.

Or that this distracts from 'Is he a villain?' and instead the debate is 'Is he an idiot?'

All of this is trivia in the face of the behaviour that syphons off funds ostensibly raised for childrens' charities into his own banks. I see that there's evidence to say his son-in-law's pretty good at that too........

Maybe it's both. But I don't think he's going to a diplomat anytime soon.

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Post by Donnamarie on Sun 02 Jul 2017, 16:54

Speaking of playground bully tweeting did anyone see the latest this morning from the Office of the President showing then "entertainer" Trump clobbering a man with a CNN logo pasted over his face. Diplomat? Never! Merely dignified? Not a chance! Evil or Very Mad
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Post by annemarie on Sun 02 Jul 2017, 18:03

Donnamarie, it just gets worse each day. He is just classless the Mail is saying he is saying to people it's o.k to beat up a reporter.

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Post by annemarie on Mon 03 Jul 2017, 22:43

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4662148/US-no-longer-friend-Germanys-Merkel-election-campaign.html

[size=34]Germany and the US are no longer 'friends': Angela Merkel changes wording in her election campaign to say Berlin and Washington are only 'partners' in response to Trump's attack on her 'insane' policies[/size]

  • Chancellor Merkel released their campaign programme for the German election

  • Previous programme referred to the US as Germany's 'most important friend'

  • Wording has been changed from 'friend' to 'most important partner' 

  • Eroding partnership between Germany and US underscored by Trump comment

  • Trump said that Merkel was 'ruining' Germany with policies he described as 'insane' during his campaign


By DAIL MAIL ONLINE REPORTER and REUTERS
PUBLISHED: 12:54 EDT, 3 July 2017 | UPDATED: 15:34 EDT, 3 July 2017


        
  • in their campaign programme for the German election, Chancellor Angela Merkel's conservatives have dropped the term 'friend' in describing the relationship with the United States.

Four years ago, the joint programme of her Christian Democratic Union (CDU) and its Bavarian sister party, the Christian Social Union (CSU), referred to the United States as Germany's 'most important friend' outside of Europe.
The 2013 programme also described the 'friendship' with Washington as a 'cornerstone' of Germany's international relations and talked about strengthening transatlantic economic ties through the removal of trade barriers.


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German Chancellor Angela Merkel and President Trump on May 26, in Italy


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Angela Merkeld and Bavarian Governor Horst Seehofer (left) depart after presenting the two parties' joint elections policy program
But the words 'friend' and 'friendship' are missing from the latest election programme - entitled 'For a Germany in which we live well and happily' - which Merkel and CSU leader Horst Seehofer presented on Monday ahead of a Sept. 24 election.
Instead, the United States is described as Germany's 'most important partner' outside of Europe. CDU officials were not immediately available to comment on the change in wording.
The change in wording underscores how relations between Berlin and Washington have deteriorated since U.S. President Donald Trump entered the White House in January.

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During his campaign for the presidency, Trump said that Merkel was 'ruining' Germany with migration policies he described as 'insane'.
He has repeatedly denounced Germany's trade surplus with the United States, accused Berlin and other European partners of owing 'massive amounts of money' to NATO, and unsettled western partners with his decision last month to pull out of the Paris climate accord.
A survey by the Pew Research Center last week showed that just 35 percent of Germans have a favourable view of the United States, down from 57 percent at the end of President Barack Obama's term.

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Merkel is due to host Trump and other leaders at a G20 summit in Hamburg later this week.
In place of the 2013 passage about strengthening economic ties, the 2017 programme refers to historical US support for Germany after World War Two and in the run-up to German reunification.


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Angela Merkel browses through the pages of the election campaign programme during a press conference Monday in Berlin, Germany
The new CDU/CSU election programme also repeats a line that Merkel used in a speech in Munich in late May after a difficult summit of G7 leaders, where Trump resisted pressure from six other nations to stay in the Paris agreement.
'The times in which we could fully rely on others are, to a certain extent, in the past. We Europeans must take our fate into our own hands more decisively than we have in the past,' the programme reads.
While affirming Germany's commitment to the NATO military alliance, the programme says that the EU must be in a position to defend itself independently if it wants to survive in the long run.
It also adds a special section entitled 'Germany and France as the Motor of Europe' which vows to 'reinvigorate the friendship' between the two countries.
'We are ready, together with the new French government, to further develop the euro zone step by step, for example through the creation of its own monetary fund,' it reads.
But it also rules out the mutualisation of debt in Europe and says that 'solidarity' will only be possible if EU countries stick to the rules of the bloc's Growth and Stability Pact. 


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Post by carolhathaway on Tue 04 Jul 2017, 06:34

Is anybody surprised about that change?
I'm not.
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Post by Donnamarie on Tue 04 Jul 2017, 14:17

Neither am I carol. The G20 summit should be very interesting. The U.S. has definitely lost it's stance as a leader in the world and Trump is the direct cause of that.
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Post by party animal - not! on Tue 04 Jul 2017, 18:35

And continuing the theme of global politics......Dump has demeaned the Chinese government so many times, despite their workforce making all his Make America Great Again merchandise.

But now, all of a sudden, he's asking them to help sort out the North Korea mess!!

Russia and China will now play him (I think it's currently being called bilateral talks by the Russians at the G20 -if he knows what that means!) and if ever there was a time for serious diplomacy it is now.

Unfortunately Donald hasn't bothered to employ too many diplomats to help him out of this extremely dangerous mess......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ7S-ymyaZ4

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Post by Donnamarie on Wed 05 Jul 2017, 04:52

That was good PAN! Will Farrell was spot on! Razz
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Post by annemarie on Sat 08 Jul 2017, 00:57

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4676500/John-Podesta-responds-Trump-s-claim-DNC-server.html

[size=34]'Get a grip man': John Podesta fires back at 'whack job' Trump over his claim that the former Hillary campaign chair withheld servers from FBI[/size]

  • Donald Trump claimed John Podesta refused to hand over DNC servers to the FBI

  • Trump said it was a topic of discussion among leaders at the G20 on Friday

  • Podesta, the former Hillary Clinton campaign chair, hit back at the president 

  • He told Trump to 'get a grip' and said he had nothing to do with the matter

  • Russia's foreign minister later said on Friday that Trump accepted Putin's assurances that Moscow didn't meddle in the election


By CHEYENNE ROUNDTREE FOR DAILYMAIL.COM and DAVID MARTOSKO, US POLITICAL EDITOR FOR DAILYMAIL.COM IN HAMBURG, GERMANY
PUBLISHED: 18:15 EDT, 7 July 2017 | UPDATED: 18:24 EDT, 7 July 2017

    
Hillary Clinton's former campaign chair hit back at Trump after the president declared 'everyone' at the G20 was talking about the Democratic hacking scandal.
Just before Trump arrived to the start of the G20 summit in Germany on Friday, he tweeted: 'Everyone here is talking about why John Podesta refused to give the DNC server to the FBI and the CIA. Disgraceful!'
Trump singled out Podesta, who was not in charge of the Democratic National Committee during the 2016 campaign, for not handing over the servers to officials.
Podesta quickly fired back, telling the president to 'get a grip' and labeling him as a 'whack job' before claiming the Russians helped get Trump elected.


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Donald Trump claimed on Friday that John Podesta (right) refused to hand over DNC servers to the FBI, which was a topic of discussion among leaders at the G20 summit in Germany 



Podesta, the former Hillary Clinton campaign chair, hit back at Trump calling him a 'whack job'



Podesta was not in charge of the Democratic National Committee during the 2016 campaign
Podesta tweeted out on Friday morning: 'Pulled in for a pit stop in E. Fairmont W. Va. to see that our whack job POTUS @realDonaldTrump i is tweeting about me at the G20.
'Get a grip man, the Russians committed a crime when they stole my emails to help get you elected President.
'Maybe you might try to find a way to mention that to President Putin. BTW, I had nothing to do with the DNC.'
Podesta added: 'Dude, get your head in the game. You’re representing the US at the G20.'
Three of America's 17 intelligence agencies last year blamed the Russian government for a computer hack that exposed some of the DNC's internal workings.
Podesta's personal email account was also hacked, a move whose outcome damaged Hillary Clinton's presidential aspirations far more.
But the Intelligence Community review did not directly attribute that hack to Moscow.
Podesta protested a week ago that he had nothing to do with the DNC at the time its network servers were being probed by Russian hackers.



Trump blamed Podesta for the DNC's refusal to let federal agencies see its computer server to search for evidence of hacking – but Podesta was never in charge of running the party


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Debbie Wasserman Schultz, a Florida Demorcatic congresswoman, was actually at the helm of her party's organization when the FBI came knocking, but was later forced out
But it remains uncontested that the party refused to hand over its computer hardware when federal investigators came knocking.
'That was a matter for the DNC,' Podesta told the Fox Business Channel on July 2.
Podesta claimed the FBI itself took a 'fairly casual' and 'lackadaisical' approach to probing the DNC hack.

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'If anything, it's on the FBI that didn't come forward and really inform the DNC about what was going on until long after,' he said.

Despite not being the official who decided that the DNC shouldn't cooperate, Podesta has positioned himself as an acidic Trump critic and defender of the Democrats.

After the first documented meeting between Trump and Putin later on Friday, Russia's foreign minister said Trump has accepted Putin's assurances that Moscow didn't meddle in the 2016 US presidential election.


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Trump and Putin had their first documented meeting Friday and it was later revealed Trump accepted Putin's assurances that Moscow didn't meddle in the 2016 US presidential election


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Trump attended the summit with wife Melania, who was seated  next to Russian Putin at dinner 
Sergey Lavrov made the claim to reporters following Trump and Putin's lengthy meeting on the sidelines of an international summit in Germany.
That account appears at odds with Secretary of State Rex Tillerson's description of the meeting.
Tillerson said the president was "rightly focused on how do we move forward from what may be simply an intractable disagreement at this point."
U.S. intelligence officials have blamed Russia for election hacking and other efforts to influence the election to help Trump win.

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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by carolhathaway on Sat 08 Jul 2017, 09:28

So Trump tweeted that everybody at the G20 Summit was talking about it BEFORE he even arrived?
 I'm pretty sure they have more important issues to discuss...
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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by annemarie on Sat 08 Jul 2017, 11:20

Definitely, Carol the man wants to be the center of attention at all times.

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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by annemarie on Sat 08 Jul 2017, 11:22

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4675966/The-Latest-Russia-say-Trump-accepts-Putins-meddling-denial.html

[size=34]Kremlin and White House disagree over remarks from Trump-Putin meeting as Moscow says US president 'accepted' denials of hacking[/size]

  • President Trump met Russian President Vladimir Putin in Hamburg on Friday

  • Much-anticipated meeting between the two leaders lasted for over two hours 

  • Afterwards, the White House and the Kremlin gave conflicting versions of events

  • US says Trump pressed Putin over Russia's alleged hacking of US election

  • But Kremlin says Trump 'accepted' Moscow's denials of involvement 


By ASSOCIATED PRESS and DAILYMAIL.COM REPORTER
PUBLISHED: 14:27 EDT, 7 July 2017 | UPDATED: 01:44 EDT, 8 July 2017

    
Did President Donald Trump press his Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin, about his government's alleged hacking of the US election? Or did Trump accept Russian denials that Moscow was involved?
It depends upon whom you ask.
The White House and the Kremlin have differing versions of the two-hour sit-down between the two leaders in Germany on Friday. 
Russia's foreign minister said on Friday that Trump has accepted Putin's assurances that Moscow didn't meddle in the 2016 US presidential election.
Sergey Lavrov made the claim to reporters following Trump and Putin's lengthy meeting on the sidelines of an international summit in Germany.
That account appears at odds with Secretary of State Rex Tillerson's description of the meeting.


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Did President Donald Trump (right) press his Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin (left), about his government's alleged hacking of the US election? Or did Trump accept Russian denials that Moscow was involved? It depends upon whom you ask


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The White House and the Kremlin have differing versions of the two-hour sit-down between the two leaders in Germany on Friday


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Tillerson said the US and Russian presidents had a 'robust and lengthy' discussion about the interference, though Putin denied involvement. 
He said the Russians have asked the US for proof and evidence of their alleged interference in the 2016 election, which Russia denies.

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He said the president pressed Putin on the issue and that they'd agreed to follow-up meetings.
Tillerson said the president was 'rightly focused on how do we move forward from what may be simply an intractable disagreement at this point.'


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Russia's foreign minister, Sergey Lavrov (seen far left) said on Friday that Trump has accepted Putin's assurances that Moscow didn't meddle in the 2016 US presidential election. But Secretary of State Rex Tillerson (far right) said Trump pressed Putin on the hacking issue
US intelligence officials have blamed Russia for election hacking and other efforts to influence the election to help Trump win.
Trump and Putin agreed on one aspect of Moscow's meddling in the 2016 U.S. presidential campaign: The issue has become a hindrance to better relations.
US lawmakers of both parties had demanded that Trump not shy away from the issue in his highly anticipated meeting with Putin. 
Trump has avoided stating unequivocally in the past that Russia interfered, even as investigations proceed into whether his campaign colluded with Russians who sought to help him win.
Senator Mark Warner says Trump shouldn't relax any sanctions against Russia as lawmakers investigate that nation's alleged meddling in the 2016 presidential election.
The Virginia Democrat, vice chairman of the Senate intelligence committee, says Trump had undermined his case on Russia interfering in the presidential race well before he met Friday with Putin.
Warner says statements by the administration that Trump pressed Putin on Russia's efforts to influence the election 'would have had much more force' if Trump hadn't previously expressed doubts about who was behind cyberattacks.
Warner says Trump also hurt his case by previously criticizing the integrity of US intelligence agencies that attributed the meddling to Russia.
House Speaker Paul Ryan says it's no surprise that Putin is assuring Trump that Moscow didn't meddle in the 2016 US presidential election.
Ryan was asked at a news conference about Putin's comments made during a meeting with Trump on Friday on the sidelines of an international summit in Germany.
Ryan says he'd expect Putin 'to deny what clearly he has done over the years, not just with the U.S. election but other elections throughout Europe.'
The Wisconsin Republican says that 'it comes as no surprise to me Vladimir Putin would deny what we know they did.'
Ryan repeated that he doesn't believe Russian interference in the presidential election affected its outcome. 
But he says that 'nevertheless, they tried.' 
Russia's foreign minister says that Russian military police will monitor a cease-fire in southwestern Syria, under a Russia-US deal.


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Tillerson said Trump and Putin had 'positive chemistry' during their first meeting. Tillerson said the meeting was 'very constructive.' He's added that 'there was so much to talk about' that neither leader 'wanted to stop.' 


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The top US diplomat also says that first lady Melania Trump (seen left with Putin in Hamburg on Friday) was sent into the meeting at one point to 'see if she could get us out of there.' But Tillerson says the meeting lasted another hour after the visit, joking that 'clearly she failed'
Lavrov told reporters after talks between Putin and Trump in Germany that the lengthy talks were 'very constructive.'
He says they touched on cybersecurity, Ukraine, North Korea and other issues.
Lavrov says the cease-fire deal was brokered by Russia, the US and Jordan.
He says Moscow and Washington will ensure the cessation of hostilities and humanitarian access.
A monitoring center will be set up in Jordan, and the Russian military police will oversee its implementation

Tillerson said Trump and Putin had 'positive chemistry' during their first meeting.
Tillerson said the meeting was 'very constructive.' He's added that 'there was so much to talk about' that neither leader 'wanted to stop.'
The top US diplomat also says that first lady Melania Trump was sent into the meeting at one point to 'see if she could get us out of there.'
But Tillerson says the meeting lasted another hour after the visit, joking that 'clearly she failed.' 


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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by annemarie on Sat 08 Jul 2017, 13:22

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4677118/Trump-steers-50M-Ivanka-s-female-entrepreneurs-project.html

[size=34]Trump administration will give $50 million to female entrepreneurship project championed by Ivanka as president says 'if she weren't my daughter it would be so much easier for her'[/size]

  • U.S. president announced government grant to fund launched by Ivanka that will help launch female entrepreneurs' businesses worldwide

  • $50 million is part of $300 million nest egg that World Bank president expects will grow ten-fold from private sector contributions

  • Trump joked that Ivanka might find success easier to come by if she weren't his daughter as he thanked her for being a 'champion' for women's empowerment


By DAVID MARTOSKO, US POLITICAL EDITOR FOR DAILYMAIL.COM IN HAMBURG, GERMANY
PUBLISHED: 04:40 EDT, 8 July 2017 | UPDATED: 04:59 EDT, 8 July 2017


        
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President Donald Trump announced Saturday that the White House will steer $50 million to a female entrepreneurship project whose launch was spearheaded by his daughter.
Trump thanked Ivanka during an appearance at the G20 summit for being 'a forceful advocate for landmark women entrepreneurs.'
But he seemed to acknowledge that his own status as a global lightning rod has raised roadblocks for her that might not be there otherwise.
'If she weren't my daughter it would be so much easier for her,' the president said. 'It might be the only bad thing she has going, if you want to know the truth.'


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President Donald Trump joked Saturday during the Women's Entrepreneurship Finance event at the G20 Summit that Ivanka might find success easier to come by if she weren't his daughter


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Ivanka Trump listened to World Bank President Jim Yong Kim during the Women's Entrepreneurship Finance event at the G20 leaders summit in Hamburg. Kim said governments had put $300 million into a fund to help launch female-owned businesses


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Ivanka (speaking to International Monetary Fund Managing Director Christine Lagarde) spearheaded the creation of the fund at the White House
The $50 million contribution will be part of a pot of government money that now exceeds $300 million, three times its original goal, World Bank President Jim Kim said.
Kim predicted a 10-to-one expansion of the World Bank-managed fund from the private sector, making more than $3 billion available to subsidize women's business ventures worldwide.
Trump said the result will be the biggest initiative of its kind in history. 'I think there's really nothing even close,' he declared.
'This has been a really difficult one but once it got going – it was about women, and it just took off beyond what anybody thought,' Trump added.
The $50 million contribution from the U.S. puts America at 'the highest donor level,' according to a White House official.


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'With a $50 million commitment the United States will continue to lead [on] the world stage in developing policies to empower women financially in our modern economy,' he said.
The president told his Saturday morning audience that 'empowering women is a core value that binds us together,' and that he is 'very proud of my daughter.'
'She's always been great. Champion, she's a champion,' he said.
Trump said that both developed and developing countries would see an influx of new economic activity in the coming years from women who had previously been shut out of their chosen industries.

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Donald Trump delivered remarks at the women's finance event, where Ivanka spoke earlier in the day
A new stream of female leaders, he said, would mean 'a lot more competition for people like me' – referring to his real estate career before he entered politics.
'That's a lot of competition,' he said. 'Talented, talented competition.'
Trump began his remarks by praising Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau for doing a 'spectacular job' and thanking German Chancellor Angela Merkel for staging a 'really incredible' summit.
'Everybody loves him,' he said of the famously handsome Trudeau, 'and they love him for a reason.'
Trudeau announced a $20 million contribution from Canada to the fund. 
Trump noted that 'quite a few people' had turned up for anti-capitalist protests this week in Hamburg.
'They seem to follow your G20s around,' he said.

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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by Donnamarie on Sat 08 Jul 2017, 13:54

Knowing what we know about Trump it leaves such a bad taste in my mouth that this man is at the G20 pretending to be a world leader. His words about women in business ring hollow to me. I didn't know Ivanka was at the G20. No comment .....
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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by party animal - not! on Sat 08 Jul 2017, 14:24

Yep, she always seems to be at the best bunfights (but only in the back row at the concert!) and I sometimes wonder if her children miss her at all. She doesn't seem to be around very much.

I think some of the diplomacy around the G20 has been very interesting, Donnamarie. Trump has looked completely sidelined at times, but very obviously has no skills whatsoever and within two minutes of saying something repeats it again.

To shake hands with the Mexican president - and then when asked if Mexico will still have to pay for the wall and says 'Absolutely' in front of him instead of pretending not to hear the question beggars believe.

Somebody had fun with the seating plan for the formal dinner didn't they?

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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by annemarie on Sat 08 Jul 2017, 19:52

Donnamarie, where else would our first lady be but at daddy's side. Even if his wife is there as well. And Ivanka's husband was there , the fail has been enjoying showing pictures of them holding hands and looking so in love. They can't say the same for the actual first couple.

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