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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by annemarie on Wed 31 May 2017, 11:30

Dan Rather is right President Obama was a leader this idiot is a fool.

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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by Donnamarie on Wed 31 May 2017, 14:40

The fool is pulling us out of the Paris Climate Agreement! That's the news here this a.m. Trump is making a calculated effort to deliberately erase all the major actions that Obama put into place during his presidency. Whether Trump even has genuine convictions regarding Obama's actions is beside the point. Trump is trying to delegitimize Obama's presidency. It all started with his birther lies.
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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by annemarie on Wed 31 May 2017, 16:59

Your right Donnamarie he simply wants to undo everything President Obama did. And he is willing to destroy America to do it.

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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by annemarie on Wed 31 May 2017, 21:33

http://people.com/politics/paris-climate-accord-president-trump-withdraws/




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President Donald Trump has told aides he intends to pull out of the Paris climate agreement, throwing into doubt a landmark treaty that scientists have said is vital to combating global warming

When the leaders of nearly 200 countries celebrated reaching the landmark Paris Agreement in December 2015 after years of false starts, they thought they had finally addressed the issue in a way that would resist the whims of leaders less inclined to act on climate change.
The deal gave countries—and government officials—the freedom to set their own voluntary targets and to revise them as they saw fit. Failure to meet them would only hurt the country’s reputation.
But these climate change negotiators, many of whom had worked to build international bridges on the issue since the early 1990s, could not have imagined the likes of President Trump. The American president came into office after promising to “cancel” the deal and after months of reconsidering has now told aides he plans to do just that.



That move would reject the more moderate option of simply revising President Obama’s emissions reductions targets, instead taking the U.S. out of the international discussion on climate change. Policy experts, business interests and environmental groups say it will hurt not only global efforts to address climate change but also U.S. standing in the world while doing little to revive the U.S. fossil fuel industry.
Here’s a look at three major costs of withdrawal.

Efforts to address climate change


The Paris Agreement aims to keep global temperatures from rising more than 2°C (3.6°F) by 2100 with an ideal target of keeping temperature rise below 1.5°C (2.7°F). Those targets were ambitious when negotiators included them in the deal two years ago, and hitting them now appears even even more unlikely. The most obvious reason for the lessening chances is the simple loss of U.S. commitment to reducing greenhouse gas emissions. The country is the world’s largest economy and second greatest polluter, and losing its commitment to addressing the issue makes a significant difference.
The other risk posed by a U.S. withdrawal is that it might encourage other countries to weaken their resolve. Indeed, the lack of U.S. commitment to the issue had been a sticking point prior to the Obama Administration and even then many developing countries wanted guarantees that the U.S. would pay its fair share given its unmatched historic contribution to the emissions of the pollutants that cause global warming.
It seems unlikely that the U.S. withdraw will doom the deal altogether—and the commitments to addressing climate change that come along with it—given that the biggest countries like China and the European Union will benefit economically from an energy transition. But smaller developing countries may choose to continue investing in fossil fuels without U.S. leadership. And some of the financial commitments to helping developing countries have lagged following a lack of commitment in the U.S.

American investment in alternative energy sources


Addressing climate change presents an enormous economic opportunity as countries change the way they power their economies with global investment in clean energy totaling nearly $300 billion in 2016. Withdrawing from the Paris Agreement means the U.S. will lose out on the opportunity to help build the green economy of the future—and benefit from the jobs and economic growth that come along with that.



The potential economic gains of the new energy economy will depend largely on which countries develop and supply the energy needs of the future. China, for instance, has invested in the capability to build solar panels and will likely control the future of that sector. German Chancellor Angela Merkel attended a ceremony for a new battery factory last week in Germany, calling for her country to help become a leading supplier of electric cars. A U.S. withdrawal from Paris signals to investors and other countries that the U.S. has little interest in capturing that market.

The relationship with China and Europe


Trump’s move to leave the Paris Agreement is perhaps the biggest snub he could deliver to America’s European allies short of leaving NATO. World leaders, particularly those in Europe, have warned Trump with increasing urgency as his presidency unfolded that withdrawing from the deal would be a mistake. And at the same time they have offered him the diplomatic leeway to weaken the U.S. commitment to fighting climate change. Still, Trump declined to sign on to a joint statement endorsing the deal following the G-7 summit last week and in the days that followed many leaders distanced themselves from Trump and their country’s historic ties to the U.S.
Looking ahead, lack of agreement on climate change more broadly will complicate relations with other nations. The U.S. will act as the lone dissenter in meetings with allies whenever climate change is mentioned—including in the context of national security—and be excluded from other discussions entirely, including upcoming meetings hosted by China and the European Union.
In relations with countries like China, where relations have been tense, climate change has acted as an area of common ground that has allowed the U.S. to strengthen ties even as other issues stressed the relationship. That would now be lost.
The U.S. also has few, if any, allies in this fight. Nicaragua and Syria are the only other countries that do not support the Paris Agreement—and both do so for entirely different reasons.
This article originally appeared on Time.com

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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by Donnamarie on Wed 31 May 2017, 23:26

This morning it was being reported by CNN and others that unnamed sources in the White House were saying Trump was pulling out. Now I'm hearing that he is back to being undecided. He's playing everyone. He can't even make up his own mind.
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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by annemarie on Wed 31 May 2017, 23:38

Well he could if had a mind.

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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by annemarie on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 01:42

He pulled out of the climate change agreement. He is the biggest fool I have ever seen.

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Post by annemarie on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 02:59

The only good thing is that nothing will change until 2019 after that who ever is president can go forward and rejoin the agreement. Many states still intend to support the agreement.

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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by Donnamarie on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 04:38

Gov. Jerry Brown of California was on a talk show tonight and spoke of how his state will continue to lead in climate change initiatives. He's very impassioned and knowledgeable on the subject. California has been at the forefront for quite sometime. He's already got meetings lined up with China to pursue joint initiatives.

The mayor of Pittsburgh spoke tonight and totally called out Trump for his statement this afternoon about how he was elected by the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris. The mayor pointed out that 80% of the city voted for Clinton. He also mentioned how many jobs have been created in Pennsylvania in support of clean and more efficient energy. Sadly Trump's view of the accord being a job destroyer is total BS. His speech this afternoon was full of alternative facts.

Brilliant statement tonight, in English, from President Macron reacting to Trump's decision. Viva Emmanuel Macron!
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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by annemarie on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 10:19

Yep, Donnamarie I loved the mayor of Pittsburgh's statement. All States are pretty much ignoring Trump and continuing to work on other sources of energy which is wonderful to see. The fact that Trump is an idiot will not stop others from doing what is right for all the world.

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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by carolhathaway on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 15:16


Macron's brilliant speech to respond to Trump 'Make our planet great again!'
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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by party animal - not! on Sun 04 Jun 2017, 02:16

Very serious terrorist attack here in London tonight.............

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-40147014

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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by Donnamarie on Sun 04 Jun 2017, 04:40

Yes, on my way to bed and saw the news on CNN. I thought of you right away PAN. Horrible night for London! I'm glad that the terrorists were killed but so sad more people have lost their lives for no reason.
This incident on top of the Manchester attack must have everyone on edge over there. Take care.
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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by LizzyNY on Sun 04 Jun 2017, 14:17

Just saw on the news that over 3000 people have been killed in @500 terrorist attacks this year! Something is desperately wrong with our world. My heart goes out to all affected by this last attack, but what makes me even sadder is the realization that it won't be the last. Sad I wish I had a magic wand.....
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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by carolhathaway on Sun 04 Jun 2017, 14:25

Lizzy,
couldn't say it any better!
This is so sad...

In  Germany the biggest rock festival was interrupted on Friday due to a suspected terror attack (fortunately nothing was found and the festival could continue yesterday).

And also last night, ten thousands of soccer fans watched the European cup final between Madrid and Turin on a place in Turin on TV when suddenly somebody started a firework in the crowd so everybody panicked and tried to run away. Approx. 1,500 people were injured, eight of them seriously...
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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by annemarie on Sun 04 Jun 2017, 17:48

http://people.com/politics/donald-trump-slammed-criticizing-london-mayor-terror-attack/


[size=37]Donald Trump Gets Slammed for Criticizing London Mayor Just Hours After Terror Attack Leaves 7 Dead[/size]


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London Attack Kills Seven and Injures Dozens
Seven people have been killed and at least 48 injured in a London terrorist attack Saturday night

President Donald Trump has lashed out at London Mayor Sadiq Khan just hours after the London Bridge terror attack on Saturday, twisting Khan’s response to the tragedy and criticizing “political correctness.”
“We must stop being politically correct and get down to the business of security for our people. If we don’t get smart it will only get worse,” Trump, 70, tweeted.
He added, “At least seven dead and 48 wounded in terror attack and Mayor of London says there is ‘no reason to be alarmed’!”



The comment came from an interview Khan did with the BBC regarding the police action being taken after the attack.
“Londoners will see an increased police presence today and over the course of the next few days. There’s no reason to be alarmed,” the mayor said.




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Major figures were quick to back Khan following Trump’s remarks.
British politician David Lammy wrote, “Stop commenting on what has happened in my city. Put your phone down.”
British Parliament member Penny Mordaunt tweeted Khan’s full comments and said he was “right to provide reassurance.”


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In a formal statement posted to Twitter early Sunday morning, Khan condemned the attack and ask that people in London remain vigilant.



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“We are all shocked and angry today, but this is our city,” he said. “We will never let these cowards win and we will never be cowed by terrorism.”
On Sunday, an aide said the mayor had “more important things to do” than respond to Trump’s tweets.
“The Mayor is busy working with the police, emergency services and the government to coordinate the response to this horrific and cowardly terrorist attack and provide leadership and reassurance to Londoners and visitors to our city,” the spokesperson said, according to editor Matt Chorley. “He has more important things to do than respond to Donald Trump’s ill-informed tweet that deliberately takes out of context his remarks urging Londoners not to be alarmed when they saw more police —including armed officers — on the streets.”


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Seven people have been killed and at least 48 injured in a London terrorist attack Saturday night – less than two weeks after a suicide bombing in Manchester and one day before a charity concert is slated to take place for the victims of that attack.



On Saturday, three attackers careened a white van into pedestrians on London Bridge. The men then pulled knives and got out at the crowded area of Borough Market and attacked victims on the street and at pubs, Commissioner for the Metropolitan Police, Cressida Dick, said in a statement on Sunday.
Armed police responded within eight minutes and shot and killed all three men at Borough Market. The assailants were wearing what appeared to be fake explosive vests, Metropolitan Police Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley told reporters.
The Metropolitan Police confirmed that they had arrested 12 people in connection to the attack.




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In a tweet from Saturday night, Trump offered his support to Britain.
“Whatever the United States can do to help out in London and the U. K., we will be there – WE ARE WITH YOU,” he wrote. “GOD BLESS!”

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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by party animal - not! on Sun 04 Jun 2017, 18:39

Found on Lysa Heslov's Twitter page..........

https://twitter.com/brianklaas/status/871318611008393216

Says it all really

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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by Donnamarie on Sun 04 Jun 2017, 19:57

Yes PAN. That gentleman nailed it IMO. Can't let fear get the better of us. Brendan Cox's tweet in the article posted above is why I sincerely apologize for the man who represents our country. He is a total disgrace to the U.S.

Terrorism isn't going away even if every country closes its borders. If people want to kill they will find a way. Potential terrorists live in our own countries. They are citizens. Hate and ideology drive these people. Got to find a way to tackle this.
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Post by carolhathaway on Sun 04 Jun 2017, 22:15

A real good 'Washington Post' article:

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Trump reacts to London terror by stoking fear and renewing feud with mayor

By Philip Rucker

June 4, 2017 at 2:03 PM

Republicans and Democrats on June 4 commented on President Trump’s tweets calling for a travel ban and criticizing the mayor of London after an attack in Britain’s capital left seven people dead the day before. (The Washington Post)

A traditional president would have reacted carefully to the London Bridge terrorist attack by instilling calm, being judicious about facts and appealing to the country’s better angels.

Donald Trump, of course, is no traditional president. He reacted impulsively to Saturday night’s carnage by stoking panic and fear, being indiscreet with details of the event and capitalizing on it to advocate for one of his more polarizing policies and to advance a personal feud.

Before British authorities detailed exactly what happened on the London Bridge, before they blamed Islamist extremism and even before they publicly concluded it was an act of terrorism, President Trump fired off a tweet to his 31 million followers: An unconfirmed bulletin from the Drudge Report.

“Fears of new terror attack after van ‘mows down 20 people’ on London Bridge …,” read the Drudge tweet, which Trump retweeted.

Before offering his condolences to the British people, the victims of three gruesome attacks in as many months, Trump pecked out asecond tweet. “We need to be smart, vigilant and tough,” the president wrote, calling on U.S. courts to affirm his administration’s “travel ban” on people from six majority-Muslim nations.

President Trump holds a news conference with British Prime Minister Theresa May at the White House on Jan. 27. (Melina Mara/The Washington Post)

Later that evening, Trump spoke with British Prime Minister Theresa May and extended his support for America’s closest ally. He tweeted, “Whatever the United States can do to help out in London and the U. K., we will be there — WE ARE WITH YOU. GOD BLESS!”

On Sunday morning, however, once the breadth of the horror in London was clear, Trump was back on Twitter. He criticized the city’s mayor — Sadiq Khan, a liberal Muslim and an old Trump foil — for not being tough enough protecting his citizens.

“At least 7 dead and 48 wounded in terror attack and Mayor of London says there is ‘no reason to be alarmed!’” Trump tweeted.

Trump took Khan’s quote out of context. The mayor had urged Londoners, in a BBC interview that was replayed, not to be “alarmed” by an increased police presence in the city. He said that aftercondemning the “deliberate and cowardly attack” as “barbaric.”

A Khan spokesperson swatted away Trump’s taunt, saying in a statement that the mayor “has more important things to do than respond to Donald Trump’s ill-informed tweet that deliberately takes out of context his remarks urging Londoners not to be alarmed when they saw more police — including armed officers — on the streets.”

Trump also stoked the long-running and emotionally-charged national debate over gun laws by pointing out that the London attackers did not use firearms. “Do you notice we are not having a gun debate right now? That’s because they used knives and a truck!,” Trump tweeted.

Britain has some of the world’s strictest laws restricting gun purchases. The death toll in London might have been higher had the attackers used the kind of semiautomatic weapons that are more easily attainable in the United States.

London Mayor Sadiq Khan, flanked by emergency workers, visits the site of a derailed tram in Croydon last November. (Daniel Leal-Olivas/AFP/Getty Images)

White House officials did not respond to questions about Trump’s response on Sunday.

With Trump spending another day at his private golf club in Sterling, Va., the White House’s social media director, Dan Scavino, revived an old Trump-Khan feud on Twitter and scolded the mayor to “WAKE UP!!!!”

Chris Lu, who served as White House Cabinet secretary under President Obama, was aghast.

“The fact that the White House social media director is commenting before the national security leadership has spoken is yet another example of Trump’s ‘shoot first, ask questions later’ attitude towards handling international incidents,” Lu said.

Historian Robert Dallek said Trump is exhibiting an entirely new style of presidential leadership. “Trump rubs everything raw,” he said. “He makes it more acerbic, more contentious.”

Dallek, who has studied former president Franklin D. Roosevelt, who steered the country through Pearl Harbor, was unsparing in his critique of Trump’s response to the London attack.

“There’s something so petty about this man,” Dallek said. “What we’re dealing with is someone who is, and I think this is the best term, an egomaniac. Everything has to revolve around him — he knows better, he’s right, he one-ups everything.”

Trump’s supporters are likely to see his swift flurry of commentary as evidence of strength and unwavering resolve — a leader dispatching with political correctness and caution to deliver an assessment that is authentic and immediate.

This is just how Trump behaved on the campaign trail. He was quick to pounce on terrorist incidents in Paris and Brussels, as well as Orlando and San Bernardino, Calif., with tough vows, even if he was loose with his facts.

Last month, after a suicide bomber killed 22 others and injured scores more at an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester, U.K., Trump labeled terrorists “evil losers” and vowed to obliterate “this wicked ideology.”

Trump last week also prematurely called a deadly attack in a casino in the Philippines a “terrorist attack.” Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte later said it was not the work of terrorists but a “crazy” gunman.

Trump’s response to this weekend’s London Bridge incident won praise Sunday morning from friend Nigel Farage, who as head of the UK Independence Party led last year’s Brexit movement, which Trump supported and saw as a precursor to his own election.

In an interview on Fox News Channel’s “Fox and Friends,” a show Trump is known to watch frequently, Farage sharply criticized Khan and May’s responses to the London attack as too timid and politically correct. He also lamented that the city had become, in his assessment, a safe harbor for Muslim “radicals.”

“We don’t just want speeches given outside 10 Downing Street,” Farage said. “We want genuine action. And if there’s not action, then the calls for internment will grow.”

Trump echoed Farage’s broad sentiment, assailing political correctness in the United States as well. “We must stop being politically correct and get down to the business of security for our people. If we don’t get smart it will only get worse,” Trump said on Twitter.

Although Trump and May have a relationship that both countries describe as positive and productive, Trump has long tangled with Khan, a member of the Labour Party who was elected mayor last year, London’s first Muslim chief executive.

Khan has positioned himself as a moral and ideological foil to Trump. During last year’s U.S. presidential campaign, Trump proposed banning all Muslims from entering the United States, but suggested he would make an exception for London’s mayor. Khan responded by saying Trump had an “ignorant view of Islam.”

This January, Khan criticized Trump’s travel ban on people from seven majority-Muslim countries — it was later revised to six. The mayor called it “shameful and cruel,” saying that the policy “flies in the face of the values of freedom and tolerance.”

And just last week, Khan joined the chorus of foreign leadersdenouncing Trump’s decision to withdraw the United States from the landmark Paris climate agreement.

In the aftermath of the London attack, Trump’s critics chastised him for continuing his feud with Khan.

“I don’t think that a major terrorist attack like this is the time to be divisive and to criticize a mayor who’s trying to organize his city’s response to this attack,” former vice president Al Gore said Sunday on CNN. “The terrorists want us to live in a state of constant fear.”

Philip Rucker is the White House Bureau Chief for The Washington Post. He previously has covered Congress, the Obama White House, and the 2012 and 2016 presidential campaigns. He joined The Post in 2005 as a local news reporter.

    

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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by party animal - not! on Sun 04 Jun 2017, 22:58

Excellent article.

One of the scary things was the fact that Trump tweeted the news of the attack very early on - directly quoting something called Drudge who inaccurately reported that 20 had been killed. I think it was only last week that Theresa May had complained directly to him in Italy that the US Press had been releasing details too soon about Manchester!

Here's an interview from a very brave journalist who just happened to be on London Bridge a yard away from the terrorists

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-40151167/london-bridge-bbc-s-holly-jones-relives-van-attack

For my part, I spent some time very late last night trying to track friends (and my children!) to make sure that they were okay......inevitably very difficult as the mobile phone lines were totally jammed. One of them was in the area. But all was well


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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by carolhathaway on Mon 05 Jun 2017, 07:13

PAN,
I'm really happy that all your beloved ones are safe and healthy!
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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by party animal - not! on Mon 05 Jun 2017, 14:12

Thanks, Carol. I've had a similar experience some years ago during the 7/7 bombing..

Here's Twitter account that has been set up because the NY Times described Britain as 'reeling'!

https://twitter.com/hashtag/thingsthatleavebritainreeling?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Ehashtag

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Post by annemarie on Mon 05 Jun 2017, 17:15

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In true Trump fashion, the president split with aides and the advocates of his law in the Justice Department in a series of tweets early Monday morning. He criticized the “watered down, politically correct version” submitted to the Supreme Court by the Department of Justice, rather than his original plan.
“People, the lawyers and the courts can call it whatever they want, but I am calling it what we need and what it is, a TRAVEL BAN!” he said.
“The Justice Dept. should have stayed with the original Travel Ban, not the watered down, politically correct version they submitted to S.C.,” he continued. “The Justice Dept. should ask for an expedited hearing of the watered down Travel Ban before the Supreme Court – & seek much tougher version!
“In any event we are EXTREME VETTING people coming into the U.S. in order to help keep our country safe. The courts are slow and political!”
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Trump received criticism after lashing out at London Mayor Sadiq Khan just hours after the London Bridge terror attack on Saturday.



“We must stop being politically correct and get down to the business of security for our people. If we don’t get smart it will only get worse,” Trump, 70, tweeted.
He added, “At least seven dead and 48 wounded in terror attack and Mayor of London says there is ‘no reason to be alarmed’!”
The comment came from an interview Khan did with the BBC regarding the police action being taken after the attack.
“Londoners will see increased police presence today and over the course of the next few days. There’s no reason to be alarmed,” Kahn said.
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“Whatever the United States can do to help out in London and the U. K., we will be there – WE ARE WITH YOU,” he wrote. “GOD BLESS!”

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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by Donnamarie on Mon 05 Jun 2017, 17:47

Check out this interview with Sebastian Gorka this morning right after the slew of Tweets Trump put out on the travel ban. Amazing!

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/06/05/sebastian-gorka-trump-travel-ban-full-newday-intv.cnn

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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by carolhathaway on Mon 05 Jun 2017, 19:06

Donna,
it's amazing how Gorka tries to sweep the interviewer's words (who also did a phaenomenal job in staying to the issue and the facts), the rhetoric he uses. And I'm sure that Trump supporters watch this interview and think that Gorka was absolutely right.


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Post by annemarie on Tue 06 Jun 2017, 23:44

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4577864/Mueller-assembles-elite-team-prosecutors.html

[size=34]Meet the Trump squad: Special counsel Robert Mueller assembles elite team of prosecutors who have probed Watergate and al Qaeda and locked up dozens of Mafia dons[/size]

  • Former FBI Director Robert Mueller, named special counsel to oversee the Department of Justice's Russian probe, is starting to assemble his team

  • James Quarle, who shares Mueller's law firm, was an assistant special prosecutor on the Watergate case that forced Richard Nixon's resignation

  • Mueller's general counsel at the FBI, Andrew Weissmann, is also part of the team and was the director of the task force that put away the CEO of Enron


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Robert Mueller, the special counsel hired to oversee the Department of Justice's Russia case, has put together an all-star team of prosecutors to look into charges of collusion, meddling and spying that have cast a shadow over Donald Trump's presidency.
Together, the team of former Department of Justice and FBI officials, have taken down mobsters, cheats, terrorists and a former president. 
James Quarles, a partner with Mueller at WilmerHale before he joined the elite team of lawyers, was an assistant special prosecutor on the Watergate case that forced Richard Nixon's resignation.
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Robert Mueller, the special counsel hired to oversee the Department of Justice's Russia case, has put together an all-star team of prosecutors to look into charges of collusion, meddling and spying that have cast a shadow over Donald Trump's presidency


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The team looking into Donald Trump's campaign and any links to Russian election meddling has taken down mobsters, cheats, terrorists and a former president
Former WilmerHale partner Aaron Zebley, chief of staff to Mueller when he ran the FBI, has also signed on. So has former DOJ attorney Jeannie Rhee, another WilmerHale alum.
Mueller's general counsel at the FBI, Andrew Weissmann, is part of the team, too. Weissman was the director of the task force that put away the CEO of Enron.
If the White House was not unnerved before, it indicated that it was now when Sean Spicer clammed up at his daily briefings on matters pertaining to the president's interaction with former FBI director James Comey and the administration's meetings with the Russians.
Asked whether the president had obstructed justice, Spicer told a reporter last Wednesday, 'Our job - we are focused on the president’s agenda and all, going forward, all questions on these matters will be referred to outside counsel, Marc Kasowitz.'
Kasowitz has represented Trump in other legal battles when he was a businessman. He notably finagled to have the billionaire's divorce records sealed - and he charges top dollar for his services. According to the Wall Street Journal, Kasowitz bills clients $1,500 an hour.
Trump says Comey informed him three times that he was not a target in the FBI's investigation. His son-in-law, Jared Kushner, has been identified as a person of interest in leaks since their conversation. 


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Former WilmerHale partner Aaron Zebley, chief of staff to Mueller when he ran the FBI, has also signed on. So has former DOJ attorney Jeannie Rhee, another WilmerHale alum
Mueller is also looking at former national security adviser Michael Flynn, who's case is going before a grand jury in Virginia, and Trump's ex-campaign manager Paul Manafort, accused of acting as a svengali to a corrupt political party in Ukraine.
To help him with the investigations, Mueller, a former head of the FBI in Republican and Democratic administrations, is relying on a team of former colleagues, several of whom followed him to WilmerHale. 
Zebley, Mueller's FBI chief of staff, is a former special agent and assistant US attorney who specializes in national security and terror.
He was a senior counselor in the National Security Division at the Department of Justice before he joined WilmerHale.
Another former WilmerHale partner on the team: Rhee, a former assistant U.S. attorney who later worked in the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel as a liaison to the White House. 







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Also on leave from WilmerHale is Quarles, a former Watergate prosecutor. Quarales was a co-chair of WilmerHale's appellate and Supreme Court litigation team. He was also a member of its intellectual property group.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2017/06/06/how-donald-trump-shifted-kids-cancer-charity-money-into-his-business/amp/

  

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How Donald Trump Shifted Kids-Cancer Charity Money Into His Business

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LIKE AUTUMN LEAVES, sponsored Cadillacs, Ferraris and Maseratis descend on the Trump National Golf Club in Westchester County, New York, in September for the Eric Trump Foundation golf invitational. Year after year, the formula is consistent: 18 holes of perfectly trimmed fairways with a dose of Trumpian tackiness, including Hooters waitresses and cigar spreads, followed by a clubhouse dinner, dates encouraged. The crowd leans toward real estate insiders, family friends and C-list celebrities, such as former baseball slugger Darryl Strawberry and reality housewife (and bankruptcy-fraud felon) Teresa Giudice.

The real star of the day is Eric Trump, the president’s second son and now the co-head of the Trump Organization, who has hosted this event for ten years on behalf of the St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital in Memphis. He’s done a ton of good: To date, he’s directed more than $11 million there, the vast majority of it via this annual golf event. He has also helped raise another $5 million through events with other organizations.

The best part about all this, according to Eric Trump, is the charity’s efficiency: Because he can get his family’s golf course for free and have most of the other costs donated, virtually all the money contributed will go toward helping kids with cancer. “We get to use our assets 100% free of charge,” Trump tells Forbes.

That’s not the case. In reviewing filings from the Eric Trump Foundation and other charities, it’s clear that the course wasn’t free–that the Trump Organization received payments for its use, part of more than $1.2 million that has no documented recipients past the Trump Organization. Golf charity experts say the listed expenses defy any reasonable cost justification for a one-day golf tournament.

Additionally, the Donald J. Trump Foundation, which has come under previous scrutiny for self-dealing and advancing the interests of its namesake rather than those of charity, apparently used the Eric Trump Foundation to funnel $100,000 in donations into revenue for the Trump Organization.

And while donors to the Eric Trump Foundation were told their money was going to help sick kids, more than $500,000 was re-donated to other charities, many of which were connected to Trump family members or interests, including at least four groups that subsequently paid to hold golf tournaments at Trump courses.

All of this seems to defy federal tax rules and state laws that ban self-dealing and misleading donors. It also raises larger questions about the Trump family dynamics and whether Eric and his brother, Don Jr., can be truly independent of their father.

Especially since the person who specifically commanded that the for-profit Trump Organization start billing hundreds of thousands of dollars to the nonprofit Eric Trump Foundation, according to two people directly involved, was none other than the current president of the United States, Donald Trump.

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IN ORDER TO understand the Eric Trump Foundation, you need to understand the Donald J. Trump Foundation. The president was never known for giving his foundation much money, and from 2009 to 2014, he didn’t give it anything at all. Outsiders still donated, though, allowing Trump to dole out their money to a smattering of more than 200 charities as if it were his own, with many of the donations helping his business interests.

Eric Trump set out to do things differently. Coming out of Georgetown, he decided he would try to translate the good fortune he had inherited into support for children’s cancer research. Why this cause, especially for a guy who still doesn’t have kids? “It’s a great question–it’s one that I’ve been asked before–and I’m not really sure,” he says. “I think there is something about that innocence that has always affected me.” After visiting various hospitals, he chose to give to strength, St. Jude, the world’s best-known pediatric cancer center.

Eric Trump set up his foundation as a public charity, a classification that allows it to raise most of its money from outside donors. In 2007, when he was 23, the first Eric Trump golf tournament took place, raising $220,000. A compelling sales pitch evolved–the free golf course and the donated goods and services assured donors that every penny possible went to charity. The Eric Trump Foundation employed no staff until 2015, and its annual expense ratio averaged 13%, about half of what most charities pay in overhead. His original seven-person board was made up of personal friends, an innocuous lot who helped sell tournament tickets, which last year ranged from $3,000 for a single all-day ticket to $100,000 for a pair of VIP foursomes.

For the first four years of the golf tournament, from 2007 to 2010, the total expenses averaged about $50,000, according to the tax filings. Not quite the zero-cost advantage that a donor might expect given who owned the club but at least in line with what other charities pay to host outings at Trump courses, according to a review of ten tax filings for other charitable organizations.

But in 2011, things took a turn. Costs for Eric Trump’s tournament jumped from $46,000 to $142,000, according to the foundation’s IRS filings. Why would the price of the tournament suddenly triple in one year? “In the early years, they weren’t being billed [for the club]–the bills would just disappear,” says Ian Gillule, who served as membership and marketing director at Trump National Westchester during two stints from 2006 to 2015 and witnessed how Donald Trump reacted to the tournament’s economics. “Mr. Trump had a cow. He flipped. He was like, ‘We’re donating all of this stuff, and there’s no paper trail? No credit?’ And he went nuts. He said, ‘I don’t care if it’s my son or not–everybody gets billed.’ ”

Katrina Kaupp, who served on the board of directors at the Eric Trump Foundation in 2010 and 2011, also remembers Donald Trump insisting the charity start paying its own way, despite Eric’s public claims to the contrary. “
We did have to cover the expenses,” she says. “The charity had grown so much that the Trump Organization couldn’t absorb all of those costs anymore.” The Trump Organization declined to answer detailed questions about the payments. But it seems that for the future president, who Forbes estimates is worth $3.5 billion, a freebie to help his son directly fight kids’ cancer took a backseat to revenue.

“I saw that Eric was getting billed,” Gillule adds. “I would always say, ‘I can’t believe that his dad is billing him for a charitable outing.’ But that’s what they wanted.”

It’s also very consistent. The Donald J. Trump Foundation famously acted like an arm of the overall business, using the charity’s money to settle a Trump business lawsuit, make a political donation and even purchase expensive portraits of its namesake. Meanwhile, Trump businesses billed the Trump campaign, fueled by small outside donors, more than $11 million to use his properties, chefs and private aircraft.

At first the extra bills did not cost the Eric Trump Foundation anything. Shortly before the spike in costs, the Donald J. Trump Foundation donated $100,000 to the Eric Trump Foundation–a gift explicitly made, according to Gillule, to offset the increased budget. Thus, the Eric Trump donors were still seeing their money go to work for kids along the same lines as previous years.

The Eric Trump Foundation declined to comment on that donation. In effect, though, this maneuver would appear to have more in common with a drug cartel’s money-laundering operation than a charity’s best-practices textbook. That $100,000 in outside donations to the Donald J. Trump Foundation (remember: Trump himself didn’t give to his own foundation at this time) passed through the Eric Trump Foundation–and wound up in the coffers of Donald Trump’s private businesses.

“His father, Mr. Trump, always, until the presidency, had a very, very tight rein on what was going on,” says Gillule, referring to the company’s golf courses. “The buck always stopped with him.”

THE COSTS FOR ERIC’S golf tournament quickly escalated. After returning, in 2012, to a more modest $59,000–while the event brought in a record $2 million–the listed costs exploded to $230,000 in 2013, $242,000 in 2014 and finally $322,000 in 2015 (the most recent on record, held just as Trump was ratcheting up his presidential campaign), according to IRS filings. This even though the amount raised at these events, in fact, never reached that 2012 high.

It’s hard to find an explanation for this cost spike. Remember, all those base costs were supposedly free, according to Eric Trump. The golf course? “Always comped,” he says. The merchandise for golfers: “The vast majority of it we got comped.” Drinks: “Things like wine we were normally able to get donated.” And the evening performances from musicians like Dee Snider of Twisted Sister and comedians like Gilbert Gottfried: “They did it for free.” So many sponsors donated, in fact, that the event invitation has carried enough logos to make a Nascar team proud.

Eric Trump, in speaking with Forbes, maintains that “our expenses on a tournament that made us somewhere in the $2 million range every year was somewhere around 100 grand,” even though his foundation’s tax records show costs soaring to $322,000. When asked for an itemized list of expenses, the Eric Trump Foundation declined to respond.

Thus it’s hard to figure out what happened to the money. All the listed costs are direct expenses: Items like overhead and salaries appear elsewhere in its IRS filings. Even if the Eric Trump Foundation had to pay the full rate for literally everything, Forbes couldn’t come up with a plausible path to $322,000 given the parameters of the annual event (a golf outing for about 200 and dinner for perhaps 400 more). Neither could golf tournament experts or the former head golf professional at Trump National Westchester. “If you gave me that much money to run a tournament, I couldn’t imagine what we could do,” says Patrick Langan, who worked at the club from 2006 to 2015. “It certainly wasn’t done that way.”

Opaque accounting doesn’t help, as the Eric Trump Foundation began hosting a few other golf events and fundraisers; former board member Kaupp says some were lumped into the cost figures of the Westchester event on the IRS filings. Hundreds of thousands of dollars over this time went directly to the Trump Organization, including one payment of $87,000 to Trump’s golf course in Washington, D.C., which hosted a separate event for St. Jude.

For his part, Eric Trump offers no indication that the charity is paying for much beyond the day in Westchester. “I’m sure if I hunted, I could find examples of expenses associated with the charity that aren’t due to day-of activities,” he says. “But I would probably have to think pretty long and hard about that.”

IT DOESN’T SEEM A COINCIDENCE that at the same time the Eric Trump Foundation went from what appeared to be a clean, efficient operation to a seemingly Byzantine one that suddenly found itself saddled with costs, there was a clear shift of control.

In 2010, the year the economics of the tournament suddenly pivoted, four of the seven original board members, who were personal friends of Eric, left. Those 4 were eventually replaced by 14 new board members, the majority of whom owed all or much of their livelihoods to the Trump Organization. Six of them were effectively full-time employees, including Trump lawyer Michael Cohen and executive vice president Dan Scavino Jr., who both serve in political roles for President Trump. Another owns a company that billed the Trump campaign $16 million. Add in Eric himself, as well as his wife, Lara, and 9 of the 17 Eric Trump Foundation board members had a vested interest in the moneymaking side of the Trump empire. The foundation had become a de facto subsidiary of the Trump Organization.

“They were wearing two hats,” says Langan, the former director of golf, who says he sat in on meetings where he couldn’t tell where the business ended and the charity began. “You’re dealing with people talking about the event and the charity who also at the same time are thinking about it as a corporation and as a business. It’s a for-profit club. You know, they’re trying to make money.”

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Until this board turnover, the Eric Trump Foundation pretty much did what it told its donors it would: send its money to St. Jude. But starting in 2011, more than $500,000 was redirected to a variety of other charities, many of which were personal favorites of Trump family members and several of which had nothing to do with children’s cancer–but happened to become clients of Trump’s golf courses.

In 2012, the Eric Trump Foundation sent $5,000 to a charity called Abilis, which provides services to people with disabilities. That same year, Donald Trump’s nephew Fred Trump, whose son has cerebral palsy, hosted the inaugural Golf for Abilis fundraiser at the Trump National Westchester. Over the next five years, Abilis spent an estimated $240,000 hosting tournaments at the property.

In 2013 and 2014, the Eric Trump Foundation paid $15,000 for tables at a gala for the Little Baby Face Foundation, according to a spokesman for the latter foundation. Over the next three years, Little Baby Face spent an estimated $100,000 to hold golf outings on the Trump course. The foundation denies any direct connection between the two transactions.

Janet McHugh, the founder of a small charity named Julie’s Jungle, was delighted to receive $25,000 in total donations from the Donald and Eric Trump foundations in 2013–money she figured came from Eric and Donald Trump personally. Two years later, her charity hosted a golf tournament at Trump National Hudson Valley. McHugh says the decision to hold her tournament there was unrelated to the donation. “They didn’t comp us the golf course,” she says. “We paid.”

Altruism as a business-development strategy isn’t necessarily illegal. But a situation in which outside donor money is redeployed away from the core mission in ways that seem to ultimately benefit the family that pays the majority of the board is–at best–an appearance problem.

Other extra expenditures raise eyebrows. In 2013, for example, Eric Trump used his foundation’s money, rather than his own, to pay $1,600 to the American Society for Enology & Viticulture for a copper wine still and an antique bottle washer at a trade event and fundraiser that he was keynoting. Eric runs the family vineyard in Charlottesville, Virginia, about an hour down the road from where the event took place. “I have no idea what that is,” says Eric Trump, referring to the payment.

In 2012, the Eric Trump Foundation wrote a check for $25,000 to the George Rodrigue Foundation of the Arts. That same year, George Rodrigue, who had said that his famous “blue dog” paintings sometimes sold for about $25,000, created a portrait of Donald Trump for the auction at Eric’s event. That portrait ended up hanging over the couch in Eric Trump’s house, where he was photographed sitting beneath it two years later.

Perhaps Eric bought the painting for himself at the auction or on the aftermarket. Perhaps Rodrigue gave or sold him a copy. What does Eric say about the donation? “Let’s follow up later on,” he replies, when asked about it in a phone call, before getting off the line.

Later the next day, after being told Forbes had several other questions, he sent a paragraphs-long text message, which read in part: “I was reflecting on it last night and have to say I was really disappointed when you said the story would be ‘fair.’… It seems like there is a motive against either myself or my family. And if that is the case, I would simply rather disengage.” A spokesperson for the Trump Organization similarly declined to respond further to questions about Eric and Donald Trump.

THE ULTIMATE TRAGEDY HERE is that the Eric Trump Foundation has done so much good. Yes, Eric has indulged in the family trait of vainglory, from Eric Trump bobblehead dolls at the tournament to statements that leave the impression he’s giving the money personally, even though tax records suggest he’s donated six figures total, at most. (Trump wouldn’t tell Forbes how much he’s given to his own foundation. “I think it’s totally irrelevant,” he says, citing the fact that “we never charge” for use of the courses.) But in 2015, a new intensive-care unit at St. Jude opened with Eric Trump’s name on it, and the foundation’s money has funded research into a rare form of cancer.

It’s hard to imagine how the early incarnation of the golf tournament–big hauls, understandable costs–would have any problem continuing to spew out millions for years to come. Last year, the Eric Trump Foundation donated $2.9 million, according to St. Jude.

But in December, Eric Trump said he would stop fundraising. Running an event with an increasing commingling of business and philanthropy created the kind of conflict-of-interest (not to mention image) concerns that similarly plagued Ivanka Trump’s aborted attempt to auction off a coffee date on behalf of Eric’s foundation.

More recently, the foundation has rebranded itself as Curetivity. A spokeswoman for the organization said it would continue hosting golf tournaments to raise money for St. Jude. A Curetivity event was held this past May outside Washington, D.C., with Eric Trump in attendance, at the Trump National course.
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To be continued...

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DEFENSEJune 06, 2017 - 02:26 PM EDTPentagon can't square Trump comments on Qatar

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The Pentagon on Tuesday said it could not square President Trump's tweets about Qatar and terrorism with its own statement about the country's enduring commitment to regional security.

"I can't help you with that," Pentagon spokesman Capt. Jeff Davis said in response to a question about reconciling the president's social media remarks and Department of Defense comments about the U.S. ally.

"I will only tell you that we have, with regard to our bases there, continued presence in our operations."

Trump shocked much of Washington on Tuesday when he took credit for the decision of Saudi Arabia and several other Arab nations to break off diplomatic relations with Qatar.

"During my recent trip to the Middle East I stated that there can no longer be funding of Radical Ideology," Trump wrote Tuesday morning. "Leaders pointed to Qatar - look!"

"So good to see the Saudi Arabia visit with the King and 50 countries already paying off. They said they would take a hard line on funding .... extremism, and all reference was pointing to Qatar. Perhaps this will be the beginning of the end to the horror of terrorism!" Trump continued over two additional tweets.

The president's comments were strikingly different in tone and substance from the message sent a day earlier by Defense Secretary James Mattis and other U.S. officials.

They appeared to double down on Saudi concerns that Qatar was supporting extremist groups such as Hamas and al Qaeda. This despite the fact that Qatar hosts a U.S. military base that includes about 10,000 troops.

The comments also appeared out of line with remarks Trump made during his visit to Saudi Arabia last month, when he described Qatar as a "crucial partner" in the region.

The Pentagon on Tuesday commended Qatar for hosting U.S. forces and its "enduring commitment to regional security."

Davis said the Defense Department is watching the situation very closely in Qatar and "would encourage all of the parties involved to work together."

Davis declined to answer a question about whether Qatar supports terrorism, saying: "I'm not the right person to ask that. I consider them a host to our very important base at Al Udeid."

When asked whether Trump's Twitter messages could impact U.S. forces' safety in Qatar, Davis said the Pentagon has not taken additional security measures.

"We already have very high levels of security. We have not made any changes," he said.

He did not know whether there have been high-level discussions between Pentagon officials and Qatar since the president's tweets.

Davis also insisted that the dispute between Qatar and its Arab neighbors has not impacted operations at Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar's capital of Doha.

"We hope for a quick resolution and we have no intention of altering our current operations, not only in Qatar but anywhere in the [Gulf Cooperation Council]. That includes important bases we have around the region, Qatar, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain," Davis said.

He added that there are ongoing diplomatic discussions, "but at the military operations level it has not had an impact."

A State Department official would not comment on Trump's Twitter messages, but told The Hill that the country "continues to make efforts to stop the financing of terrorist groups, including prosecuting suspected financiers, freezing assets, and introducing stringent controls to its banking system. While they have made progress, they recognize more work remains to be done."

"The United States' relationship with Qatar is strong and we cooperate with Qatar in the fight against terror," the official added.

The official also said the agency was notified of the Qatar split "only immediately prior to the announcement," and is "pressing the parties involved to resolve the dispute as quickly as possible."

Pentagon officials are still assessing the effects from Monday's decision by several Arab countries.

Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain and Egypt on Monday closed all land, sea and air borders with the country. Yemen, the Maldives and Libya's eastern-based government followed suit later in the day.

The split comes as U.S.-backed fighters in Syria have started a military campaign to recapture the city of Raqqa from the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS).

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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by annemarie on Wed 07 Jun 2017, 15:25

Trump would steal candy from a baby if he could he is nothing but a crook and a liar.

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Post by LizzyNY on Wed 07 Jun 2017, 16:22

Our foreign policy is becoming schizophrenic - just like POTUS! How long will it be before no one is willing to work for the government except right-wing anarchists?!
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Post by Donnamarie on Wed 07 Jun 2017, 17:54

Yep, that Forbes article is just adding to what we already know about Trump's lack of "charity". This was well documented by The Washington Post before the election. And yet his supporters continued to support and voted for this sorry excuse for a man!

Llike father, like son. Seems Trump taught his children the fine art of picking other people's pockets to line their own. Even at the expense of the less fortunate.
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Post by annemarie on Wed 07 Jun 2017, 20:06

http://people.com/politics/james-comey-testimony-president-trump-loyalty/


[size=37]James Comey’s Prepared Testimony Released: Former FBI Director Says President Trump Told Him: ‘I Expect Loyalty’[/size]


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Former FBI Director James Comey will describe in vivid detail the different interactions he had with Donald Trump since he was elected President in his hotly anticipated congressional testimony on Thursday, confirming for the first time himself explosive reports that Trump had asked him to pledge his loyalty and to drop an investigation into former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn.
“The President said, “I need loyalty, I expect loyalty,” Comey will tell the Senate Intelligence Committee, according to prepared testimony released Wednesday. “I didn’t move, speak, or change my facial expression in any way during the awkward silence that followed.”
The lengthy prepared testimony backs up, in Comey’s own words, a series of news reports since Trump fired him last month — that his interactions with Trump left him uncomfortable, that he feared for the FBI’s independence amid an investigation into possible connections between Trump’s campaign and Russia, and that he demurred when asked to pledge his loyalty.
“I can recall nine one-on-one conversations with President Trump in four months – three in person and six on the phone,” Comey says in his testimony, contrasting that with the fact that he “spoke alone with President Barack Obama twice in person (and never on the phone).” Comey said he wrote detailed memos after every conversation with Trump out of his own volition, which he had not done while working under Obama.
Comey also said that Trump asked him in late March to “lift the cloud” of the Russia investigation.



“He said he had nothing to do with Russia, had not been involved with hookers in Russia, and had always assumed he was being recorded when in Russia,” Comey says. “He asked what we could do to ‘lift the cloud.’ I responded that we were investigating the matter as quickly as we could, and that there would be great benefit, if we didn’t find anything, to our having done the work well. He agreed, but then re-emphasized the problems this was causing him.”
This is the first time Comey has spoken publicly about his interactions with Trump since he was fired in May. Comey had confirmed during a hearing before the House Intelligence Committee in March that the FBI was investigating whether Trump associates had colluded with Russian officials in their attempts to meddle in the 2016 presidential election.
Ahead of Comey’s testimony on Thursday, Trump said simply, “I wish him luck.” But behind the scenes, the Administration and his allies have been preparing to rebut his testimony and discredit him.
Trump’s decision to terminate Comey immediately sparked outrage in both parties because he was firing the person overseeing the investigation into his campaign. Trump had initially cited Comey’s handling of the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private email server during the campaign as the reason he fired Comey, but he acknowledged just two days later in an interview with NBC News that the Russia investigation was a factor.
“When I decided to just do it, I said to myself, I said you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made up story. It’s an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should have won,” Trump said.
This article originally appeared on Time.com

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Post by Way2Old4Dis on Wed 07 Jun 2017, 20:42

As we come to what I think is the final descent of this illegitimate "presidency," and ultimately the entire fraudulent and treasonous administration, I feel compelled to make my first, last, and only post here, having read only a few from the first days after the stolen "election."

I assume the consensus here is that Donald tRump, the Traitor-in-Chief, has been called a pathological liar, con man, and narcissist. He is all of those things. But those are only components of a symptom complex in his case. tRump is clinically, diagnosably mentally ill. I urge you to look up the DSM-5 manual, and read 'Delusional Disorders.' You will find it under 297.1 [F22]. tRump fits every clinical criteria for both grandiose and persecutory type delusional disorders. There is no denying this. We've all witnessed it publicly, and one can only imagine what goes on behind closed doors.

As the walls close in on him, he will move to make the world fit his delusions. It's the only way he is able to operate. Unless someone steps up and does the right thing, this one man can make the state of the world even more precarious and dangerous than it already is.

So, if you're in the US - and it doesn't matter what party affiliation you hold - it is past time to call your representatives to account. Anyone who supports tRump is supporting a presumed traitor, and at the the least allowing a man who is mentally and emotionally unfit to 'run' the country. That is inexcusable. Power and party before the people has to stop.

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Post by Donnamarie on Wed 07 Jun 2017, 21:53

I completely agree with you Way2.  I think most of us here are on the same page about this man.  His actions have been inexcusable. I do see him as a traitor to our country.  He may very well have not divulged secrets to our adversaries (none we know of yet) but he is not doing what is best for our country.  His actions are all in the interest of himself.  He is attempting to dismantle our democracy as it was laid out in the Constitution.  And it's not because he is an ideologue or has a different vision for our country.  It's just about him. It's about winning and making as much money off of our country as he can.

As long as the Republican Members of Congress continue to support and enable him it will be next to impossible to get rid of him.  Even impeaching him doesn't get him out of office ... not right away.  He needs to be brought to the point where he has no choice but to resign for the sake of his own self-interest.   The 2018 elections may bring Republicans to their senses but who knows how much damage Trump will have done by then.


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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by LizzyNY on Wed 07 Jun 2017, 23:51

Way2Old - I don't think anyone here would argue with you. The man is certifiable. and if he wasn't so rich he'd probably be a delusional schizo living on the street. Sadly for us he's a delusional schizo living in the White House.

What worries me is how many people still support him. I had a "discussion" with two of my neighbors the other day about him. One supports him because he agrees with everything negative Trump comes up with. The other supports him because "he's the President".

I don't think it's going to be that easy to get rid of him.
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Post by annemarie on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 01:03

I agree it is not going to be easy to get rid of him .

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Post by carolhathaway on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 06:34

I even read comments about Trump in Germany saying that he's great simply because he fulfills what he promised during the election campaign or because he tries to 'make America great again', implying that our politicians don't do so because they stick to the EU, the NATO, agreements which had been signed, and also the Paris climate agreement.
We should really think about an intelligence test for voters, I guess... Rolling Eyes
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Re: The Serious Side - part 2

Post by LizzyNY on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 13:29

The thing they won't admit is that the promises he's keeping are all making the world a more dangerous, unhealthy place to live in. He's not making America, or anywhere else, "great" again. He's making it dirtier, uglier and less safe for us all.
IMO, he wants to go back to the Industrial Revolution when the robber barons ruled the world and everyone else slaved for them while they stripped the planet of all its resources and lived like kings. It astonishes me how people have such short memories. Why do they think we have all the regulations he's trying to do away with? Maybe we're getting exactly what we deserve.
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Post by carolhathaway on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 13:46

Lizzy,
I absolutely agree with you. And that's why I'm shocked that so many people don't see that. If the leading countries should follow, it would result in WW III, that's no question for me. Fortunately the elections in Europe seem to show that most voters see the - at least it looks so from outside - chaos after the Brexit and the chaos caused by Trump and decide not to vote for the demagogues. I hope it continues, in Germany we've got elections in September. But I'm really interested in seeing the results of today's elections in Britain...
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Post by carolhathaway on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 14:01

...to continue:
When you want to stop refugees / migrants from leaving their countries / regions / continents, you need to 
- stop throwing bombs on them, financing their enemies
- stop destroying their economy because when they see no perspective for themselves and their families, it doesn't stop them, even knowing that they might die in the Mediterranean Sea
- stop destroying the environment because climate change is happening, and when their islands disappear in the ocean, theif regions become deserts, they have to leave.

I'm just thinking of one family from my hometown who built pianos and left for New York at the end of the 19th century. They americanized their names from 'Steinweg' to - who might guess? - yes, Steinway. They were immigrants!
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Post by Donnamarie on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 14:05

The majority of US voters did understand the danger of Trump. We saw him as a threat. We were defeated by the electoral college that determined the outcome of our elections, including those people who either didn't care, were ill informed or didn't like either candidate so chose not to exercise the right to vote. A lesson to be learned. I think Europe is getting it.
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Post by LizzyNY on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 16:06

Carolhathaway - Funny. Your mentioning the Steinweg/Steinway story reminded me of another immigrant from Germany at around the same time. His name was Drumpf, which he changed to Trump when he came here to open a bordello.Too bad we didn't have a travel ban back then.
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Post by carolhathaway on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 16:59

Lizzy,
I'm glad e didn't stay in Germany - although, maybe he'd developed differently. Or his father - if he was like his son - might have been a leading Nazi - you never know...
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Post by LizzyNY on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 23:38

I don't think he'd have been a leading anything. If what I've read is correct, Trump's grandfather tried to go back to Germany to live but they wouldn't let him stay because he left to avoid military service. His grandson really takes after him: a pervert and a draft dodger!
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Post by Donnamarie on Fri 09 Jun 2017, 14:38

So to our Brit friends, how shocked are you over May losing her majority in Parliament? How much does this hurt her going forward?
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Post by LizzyNY on Fri 09 Jun 2017, 15:36

For our friends in the UK, I'm curious to know: why do you think the election went the way it did? Were you surprised or did you expect the results? It seems nothing is reliable in politics nowadays.
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