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Post by annemarie on Thu Apr 13 2017, 11:38

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4406890/Trump-says-relations-Russia-time-low.html

Trump says relations with Russia are 'at an all-time low' - then warns Vladimir Putin: The U.S. is very, very strong

  • Trump fired a warning shot at Russia on Wednesday - saying at a news conference that the U.S. is just as strong as it is

  • 'We're not getting along with Russia at all... Russia is a strong country. We’re a very, very strong country. We’re going to see how that all works out,' he said

  • Trump's presser with the NATO secretary general came hours after Putin agreed to see his secretary of state, Rex Tillerson, on the fly amid mounting tensions

  • The chest-beating had Tillerson cautioning from Moscow that the two countries with nuclear weapons must have warmer relations 


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President Donald Trump fired a warning shot at Russia on Wednesday - saying at a news conference that the U.S. is just as strong as it is - as a battle of wills between Moscow and Washington threatened to erupt into a Cold War-style conflict.
The relationship between the two countries is at 'an all-time low,' Trump proclaimed at a White House press conference tied to the visit of the NATO secretary general.
'Right now we're not getting along with Russia at all,' Trump observed. 'Putin is the leader of Russia. Russia is a strong country. We’re a very, very strong country. We’re going to see how that all works out.' 



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President Donald Trump fired a warning shot at Russia's leader on Wednesday - saying at a news conference that the U.S. is just as strong as it is - as a battle between Moscow and Washington over the situation in Syria threatened to erupt into a Cold War-style conflict


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Trump's presser with the NATO secretary general came hours after Putin agreed to see his secretary of state, Rex Tillerson, on the fly amid mounting tensions between the two countries



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The strained relations with Russia over the gas attack in Syria had Trump reversing his stance on NATO, which he said had begun to fight terrorism after he complained they it didn't
Trump's presser with the NATO secretary general came hours after Putin agreed to see his secretary of state, Rex Tillerson, on the fly amid mounting tensions between the two countries.
Tillerson said earlier in the day, at a joint news conference with his Russian counterpart that took place just before Trump's, that the US was at a 'low point' in its relations with Putin's government. Putin made a similar point in an interview that aired just as Tillerson was sitting down to a meeting with the Russian foreign minister.
The chest-beating had Tillerson cautioning from Moscow that the two countries with nuclear weapons must have warmer relations.
Russia has aggressively pushed back on the Trump administration's assertions that Syria's dictator gassed his country's civilians last week in horrific attack that claimed 87 lives.
Tillerson said Wednesday that the US is 'quite confident' Bashar al-Assad was behind the massacre. 'The facts that we have are conclusive,' he said.

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Speaking to the press with Tillerson, Sergey Lavrov, the Russian diplomat, demanded an independent investigation into the attack his country says was the work of extremists.
'We do not wish to speculate,' he said. 'We want to establish the truth, the full truth.'
Despite the bickering in the Kremlin press conference, Trump said of Tillerson's Moscow meetings, 'I'm hearing things went pretty well, maybe better than anticipated.
'It would be wonderful, as we were discussing just a little while ago, if NATO and our country could get along with Russia. Right now we're not getting along with Russia at all. We may be at an all-time low in terms of relationship with Russia.'  
He could not say if Russia had knowledge of Assad's attack before it happened - but admitted that it was a possibility.
'I would like to think that they didn't know,' he said. 'But certainly they could have. They were there. So we'll find out.'


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Tillerson said earlier in the day, at a joint news conference with his Russian counterpart that took place just before Trump's, that the US was at a 'low point' in its relations with Putin's government. Putin made a similar point in an interview that aired just as Tillerson was sitting down to a meeting with the Russian foreign minister
Defense Secretary James Mattis and a Pentagon group are looking into it, Trump said.
'When you get into the gases, especially that form, it was vicious and violent and everybody in this room saw it all too many times over the last three or four days, young children dying, babies dying, fathers holding children in their arms that were dead, dead children, there can't be a worse sight and it shouldn't be allowed,' Trump stated.
The US president said the ghastly sight was a 'butcher' and it compelled him to act.
'I have absolutely no doubt we did the right thing, and it was very, very successfully done, as you well know,' he said. 
The strained relations with Russia over the gas attack in Syria had Trump reversing his stance on NATO, which he said had begun to fight terrorism after he complained they it didn't. 
'I said it was obsolete. It's no longer obsolete. It's my hope that NATO will take on an increased role supporting our Iraqi partners in our fight against ISIS,' Trump said.
Trump said from the White House's East Room that he and UN Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg had a 'productive' discussion this afternoon about the alliance and the aid in can provide in the global fight against terrorism.
'We are grateful for the support of NATO members and partners in their condemnation of Assad’s murderous attack, using the most horrible weapons,' Trump said.
'The vicious slaughter of innocent civilians with chemical weapons, including the barbaric killing of small and helpless children and babies, must be forcefully rejected by any nation that values human life,' he added. 'It is time to end this brutal civil war, defeat terrorists, and allow refugees to return home.' 


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Trump argued in his remarks that the world is a 'mess' - 'but I think by the time we finish, I think it’s going to be a lot better place to live.'
'And I can tell you that, speaking for myself, by the time I’m finished, it’s going to be a lot better place to live in -- because right now it’s nasty,' he said.
As a candidate, Trump put the United States' allies on edge as he whacked NATO countries for failing to pay their fair share of defense costs and warned there would be consequences if they continued to miss payments.
The White House stressed Wednesday that Trump is '100 percent' committed to the mutual defense organization.
Distancing itself from his campaign-time comments, the White House said Trump had made over a dozen calls to leaders of NATO countries and emphasized his firm commitment to all of them.
Stoltenberg further reminded Trump in the afternoon presser that NATO serves as a check on Russian aggression.
'I strongly believe that the only way to deter Russia is to be strong,' Stoltenberg said.
He said it was strategically important keep the lines of communication open between Russia and member nations, too, in order to prevent additional conflicts.
'The only way to avoid a new Cold War, avoid a new arms race and avoid increasing tensions is to continue to engage Russia is a political dialogue and to make sure that what we do is defensive and proportionate in response to a more assertive Russia,' he assessed.

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Re: The Serious Side

Post by annemarie on Thu Apr 13 2017, 11:45

Does he think that he will scare Putin with the we are stronger than them comment. Please , they don't give a damn about the U.S. His people already admitted that Russia has more nukes than we do.

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Post by LizzyNY on Fri Apr 14 2017, 14:29

As far as using nukes is concerned, it isn't Russia I'm concerned about - it's North Korea. They're as unstable as Trump and probably even more reckless. I used to think WW III would start in the Middle East, but now I think Asia is a better bet.
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Post by LizzyNY on Mon Apr 17 2017, 13:34

Very Happy Just saw this in the comments section of The Daily Kos article, "Why Cats Aren't Republican", and thought some of you might get a laugh out of it:

         "Talking to a Republican is like playing checkers with a chicken. They don't understand what is going on, crap all over the board and then crow about winning."
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Post by Katiedot on Mon Apr 17 2017, 14:11

Ha! That's funny. Should maybe go in our jokes thread too . . . where is Pattygirl these days anyway?
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Re: The Serious Side

Post by LizzyNY on Mon Apr 17 2017, 14:52

She's been away a long time. I miss her a lot!
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Re: The Serious Side

Post by annemarie on Tue Apr 18 2017, 11:35

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4419768/Prof-predicted-Trump-win-says-ll-impeached.html

'He is more vulnerable than any other President in history of America': Professor who predicted Trump's shock win explains he is headed toward impeachment

  • American University history professor Allan Lichtman was one of only a few who accurately predicted the results of the 2016 election 

  • Now he's out with a new book that suggests Trump is more 'vulnerable' to impeachment than 'any other president in the history of the nation' 

  • Lichtman looked at a number of factors including Trump's parallels to other presidents who have been impeached or came close to it  



While polls, pundits and professors all called the 2016 election wrong, American University history professor Allan Lichtman stood out by predicting a win for Donald Trump. 
Soon after, he made another astonishing prediction, that Trump would get impeached. In a new interview with GQ, he's standing behind that assessment and giving it some meat. 
'I believe he is more vulnerable than any other president in the history of the nation,' Lichtman said. 


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President Donald Trump (right), first lady Melania Trump (center) and Barron Trump at today's White House Easter Egg Roll. An American University thinks Trump will be impeached 


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Candidate Donald Trump on election night. American University's Allan Lichtman was one of the few to publicly predict a Trump victory, but now he also believes Trump will be impeached
Lichtman laid out his thoughts in a new book, 'The Case for Impeachment.'  
Unlike his election prediction, his impeachment theory isn't based on a formal methodology because only two presidents have been impeached, while Richard Nixon, resigned before the House of Representatives could do such a thing. 

American University history professor Allan Lichtman (pictured) wrote a new book explaining why he thinks President Trump will be impeached
Instead Lichtman said he did a 'deep study of history,' looking at the parallels Trump possesses to those presidents who have been impeached.
He added that he looked at, 'a study of the process of impeachment; a study of Trump's vulnerabilities, particularly those that have arisen over the course of his business career; and a look at the early weeks of his tenure in the White House.'  
Looking at Nixon, Lichtman said the parallels between the late president and the current occupant are 'quite chilling.'
'Trump is very thin-skinned and considers the media to be his enemy. He believes in being on the attack at all times, and in the important of getting even with people,' Lichtman said. 'He has a penchant for lying and for deflecting controversy instead of meeting it head-on.' 
'Finally, like Nixon, Trump seems bereft of any guiding principles, other than doing what is best for himself,' the professor continued. 'This lack of guiding principles, for a president, is very dangerous.'  
 Lichtman suggested Trump could get nailed on a variety of things, included the must talked-about Russian election controversy. 
'There is still a lot of smoke around the campaign's Russia links,' Lichtman said. 'Carter Page, Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, Jeff Sessions and General Flynn, among others. I think there could be come fire there.' 
The professor also pointed out that Trump could get in trouble for business conflicts of interest through the Emoluments Clause. 
Other experts have often cited that part of the Constitution as well, when suggesting the current president could be legally impeached.  
Lichtman said pushing Trump out the door could be beneficial for Congressional Republicans, who are charged with impeachment and the trial.  

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 'They would love to have Mike Pence in the White House!' Lichtman said of Republicans, especially those in the House. 
Pence will be able to pick his own vice president and that could be current House Speaker Paul Ryan, who was the party's vice presidential nominee in 2012: 'The ultimate dream team for Republicans.' 
'Assuming Democrats are on board, it would only take about two dozen Republicans to deflect from their majority to secure enough votes to impeach,' Lichtman pointed out. 
As for why Lichtman originally picked Trump, the D.C. professor said he had a system, he called 'The Keys to the Presidency,' which essentially looked at the strength of the incumbent president's party. 
He tuned out the larger narrative that suggested Trump could not win and instead honed in on details like the fact the Democrats didn't get through another big package after Obamacare. 
'A presidential election is, at its core, a referendum on whether the party in power should get four more years in office,' Lichtman noted. 
By his measure, they did not.

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Re: The Serious Side

Post by party animal - not! on Tue Apr 18 2017, 11:37

So Trump congratulates Erdogan.......Couldi it be that he has property interests there? Ah, yes, of course!

A former head of MI5 has revealed that Trump borrowed millions from Russia during 2006 to prop up his businesses during the crash.........

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Post by Donnamarie on Tue Apr 18 2017, 14:29

PAN, Trump does have to walk a fine line since the U.S is using Turkey's airbase to launch their planes that are striking ISIS. I suspect his military has had to spell out this reality to the Trumpster. Duh! Because on the face of it I'm sure it's Trump's property in Istanbul that motivates him to try and stay on Erdogan's good side.
But there are a number of ways he could have recognized Erdogan's win without "congratulating" him. Turkey's record alone on trying to muzzle and imprison journalists should have given Trump a pause in how he responded. But you know it is Trump we're talking about ....
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Post by LizzyNY on Tue Apr 18 2017, 15:48

Donnamarie - He's congratulating Erdogan for doing what he wishes he could do but can't get away with - muzzling the press. Too bad for him this is still a democracy, despite how hard he's trying to destroy our Constitution.
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Post by party animal - not! on Tue Apr 18 2017, 17:40

Totally agree, both - and of course the whole NATO thing means dialogue has to continue.

Huge problems now, because he was prepared to take in the Syrian refugees by the millions, now has the power to send them all to Europe if the EU do not pursue his request to be part of it - and at the same time, millions of Syrians are being looked after by him who may decide to stay in Turkey and will almost definitely vote of  him!

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Post by annemarie on Tue Apr 18 2017, 20:16

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4420706/Trump-order-target-high-skilled-worker-visa-program.html

Hire American! Trump targets H-1B visas blamed for undercutting Americans' wages by letting firms bring in cheaper workers

  • Trump will sign an executive order today that makes changes to a controversial visa program that brings in high-skilled workers

  • He's traveling to House Speaker Paul Ryan's district to sign the measure - but Ryan won't be there

  • Order that overhauls H1-B visa program dubbed 'Buy American, Hire American' 

  • Trump admitted during a debate to taking advantage of the program as a businessman but said 'it's very bad' and should be abolished 

  • Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer hit Trump for hanging out with CEOs since he was elected and said he's not doing enough for American workers 



President Donald Trump will sign an executive order today that makes changes to a controversial visa program that brings in 'high-skilled' workers - but has been accused of driving down wages for Americans.
The president is heading Tuesday to Kenosha, Wisconsin, where he plans to sign an order dubbed 'Buy American, Hire American' that will overhaul the foreign worker program he once said should be eliminated.
White House officials said the order that Trump will sign at the headquarters of tool manufacturer Snap-on Inc., in House Speaker Paul Ryan's district, will direct the departments of Homeland Security, Justice, Labor and State to propose new rules to prevent immigration fraud and abuse in the H1-B visa program. 

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President Donald Trump will sign an executive order today that makes changes to a controversial visa program that brings in high-skilled workers. He's pictured yesterday at the White House holding up an Easter card for a soldier


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[/size][/size]partments are being asked to offer changes so that H-1B visas are awarded to the 'most-skilled or highest-paid applicants,' administration officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity despite the president's frequent criticism of the use of anonymous sources, said.
The White House said the program is currently undercutting American workers by bringing in cheaper labor and said some tech companies are using it to hire large numbers of workers and hold down wages.
Administration officials said the order also seeks to strengthen requirements that American-made products be used in certain federal construction projects, as well as in various federal transportation grant-funded projects. 
The officials said the commerce secretary will review how to close loopholes in enforcing the existing rules and provide recommendations to the president.
The order specifically asks the secretary to review waivers of these rules that exist in free-trade agreements. The administration said that if the waivers are not benefiting the United States they will be 'renegotiated or revoked.'
During his campaign, Trump said at some point that he supported high-skilled visas, then came out against them. 
At one debate, he called for fully ending the program, saying: 'It's very bad for our workers and it's unfair for our workers. And we should end it.'

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Trump admitted then that he had taken advantage of the program as a businessman - but said he shouldn't have been allowed to and it should be abolished.
'I know the H-1B very well. It's something that I, frankly, use,' he said. 'I’m a businessman and I have to do what I have to do, and it's sitting there waiting for you, but it's very bad.'
Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer told reporters during a call Tuesday that Trump had failed to keep the promises he made to American workers when he was running for president.
'Unfortunately President Trump has been siding since he became president with the CEOs and special interests over the American workers at every turn,' the top-ranking Democrat contended. 'Unfortunately, sadly, "Buy American and Hire American" has been nothing more than a campaign slogan.'
A White House official said Monday that the political system has ignored pleas for reforms to foreign worker programs for a long time, and Trump's 'acknowledgement of the problem in and of itself is quite remarkable in the sense that past administrations in both parties have failed to do so.' 
'So that in and of itself represents a fairly historic event and really underscores again how President Trump has changed politics as we know it and has captured the hearts and minds of working-class voters in a way that both parties have failed to do,' the official charged.
'It's a remarkable testament to his leadership and to our changing political landscape, and turning the Republican Party into a vehicle to broadly represent working-class citizens who felt underrepresented by our political system. 



White House officials  said Monday that changes to the H1-B visa program could be administrative or legislative and could include higher fees for the visas, changing the wage scale for the program or other initiatives. 
About 85,000 H-1B visas are distributed annually by lottery. Many go to technology companies, which argue that the United States has a shortage of skilled technology workers.
But critics say the program has been hijacked by staffing companies that use the visas to import foreigners - often from India - who will work for less than Americans. The staffing companies then sell their services to corporate clients who use them to outsource tech work.
Employers from Walt Disney World to the University of California in San Francisco have laid off their tech employees and replaced them with H-1B visa holders. Adding to the indignity: The U.S. workers are sometimes asked to train their replacements to qualify for severance packages.
On the planned order by Trump, Ronil Hira, a professor in public policy at Howard University and a critic of the H-1B program, said, 'It's better than nothing.' But he added, 'It's not as aggressive as it needs to be.'
The tech industry has argued that the H-1B program is needed because it encourages students to stay in the U.S. after getting degrees in high-tech specialties - and they can't always find enough American workers with the skills they need.
Congress is considering several bills to overhaul the visa program. 


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Donald Trump holds up Green Bay Packers jersey given to him by House Speaker Paul Ryan at a rally in West Allis, Wisconsin last December. Trump heads to Ryan's congressional district in Wisconsin today to sign his executive order
One, introduced by Illinois Democratic Sen. Dick Durbin and Iowa Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley, would require companies seeking H-1B visas to first make a good-faith effort to hire Americans, a requirement many companies can dodge under the current system. 
It would also give the Labor Department more power to investigate and sanction H-1B abuses and offer 'the best and brightest' foreign students studying in the U.S. priority in getting H-1B visas. 

Trump's stop at the world headquarters of Snap-on Inc. comes as he faces an approval rating of just 41 percent in Wisconsin, a state he barely won in November. 
The visit will take him to the congressional district of Ryan, who won't be joining the president because he's on a bipartisan congressional trip visiting NATO countries.
White House Chief of Staff Renice Priebus is also a Wisconsin native and hails from Kenosha. 
Trump has traveled to promote his agenda less than his recent predecessors. He's hosted foreign leaders at the White House and made frequent trips to his Mar-a-Lago estate, instead.
White House spokesman Sean Spicer said Trump wanted to visit 'a company that builds American-made tools with American workers' on today's trip.
Trump carried Wisconsin in November by nearly 23,000 votes - less than 1 percentage point - making him the first Republican to win the state since 1984. He campaigned on the promise of returning manufacturing jobs that have been lost in Upper Midwest states.
Founded in Wisconsin in 1920, Snap-on makes hand and power tools, diagnostics software, information and management systems, and shop equipment for use in a variety of industries, including agriculture, the military and aviation. 
Its headquarters are in Kenosha and it has eight manufacturing sites in North America, including one in Milwaukee. The company employs about 11,000 people worldwide.

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Post by party animal - not! on Thu Apr 20 2017, 00:05

Interesting stuff re the UK election:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/general-election-hacked-new-cyber-security-measures-government-a7691906.html

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Post by annemarie on Sat Apr 22 2017, 01:27

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4433752/Trump-promises-massive-tax-cut-reform-program.html



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[size=34]I'll give you the biggest tax cut EVER promises Trump as he says he will unveil tax reform plan next week

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  • His 100 day mark in the horizon, Trump said his administration will have it ready by 'Wednesday or shortly thereafter.' 

  • White House noted that he gave himself wiggle room in the statement 

  • Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin suggested this week that an original August deadline for reform to pass was unlikely to be met

  •  He found himself publicly rebuffed by Trump, who's motto as a developer was 'on time, under budget'

  • Trump assured an audience Tuesday that it would get done that quickly - if lawmakers hustle on health care 

  • Unclear what's in the proposal - neither the White House nor Treasury are saying

  • Border adjusted tax House tax committee's chairman wants is a sticking point

  • A proposal floated this week to end a deduction rich people get for giving large amounts of money to charity would anger conservatives

  • Trump needs almost every Republican to go along with his plan, otherwise he'll have to plead with Democrats 



By FRANCESCA CHAMBERS, WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 15:04 EDT, 21 April 2017 | UPDATED: 18:48 EDT, 21 April 2017


 
President Donald Trump says he'll be rolling out his tax package next week, and it will contain the largest cut in American history, as he'd previously promised.
Trump told the Associated Press that businesses and individuals will be getting a 'massive tax cut' if his plan passes.
He wouldn't give away the details of the proposal, yet asserted that it will be 'bigger I believe than any tax cut ever.'
His 100 day mark in the horizon, Trump said his administration will have it ready by 'Wednesday or shortly thereafter.'
Trump's Treasury secretary, Steven Mnuchin, had said the plan would be out soon, though he did not offer the Wednesday timeline. The White House has previously said the proposal would be done by the end of March.
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Tax reform is coming: The president says the package will be released on 'Wednesday or shortly thereafter' - just before his 100 day mark in office


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Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin (right, today) initially set a goal of getting tax reform passed by August, but that deadline has slipped. Mnuchin now says the administration still hoped to get a bill passed well before the end of the year


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 Trump teased the package on Friday afternoon during his first visit to the Department of Treasury. He did not provide additional details on what it would contain, however
Mnuchin suggested this week that an original August deadline for reform to pass would also be blown and found himself publicly rebuffed by Trump, who's motto as a developer was 'on time, under budget.'
Trump said his administration was 'on time' with tax reform, even though it's nearly the end of April. 
The Republican president, who's a billionaire in his own right, teased the tax package on Friday afternoon during his first visit to the Department of Treasury. 
He did not provide any details on what would be in it as he promised again that it would be out before his first 100 days in office have concluded.
'We'll be having a big announcement on Wednesday having to do with tax reform,' was all he said after signing an executive order that dealt with another aspect of the tax code. 'The process has begun long ago, but it really formally begins on Wednesday,' he added.
Making his wishes clear, Trump ordered Mnuchin to 'go to it.' His cabinet secretary got the message. 'All right, Mr. President,' he said.

But even the White House was walking back Trump's pledge no sooner than it had left the president's mouth.


'I would also point out the fact that he gave himself some wiggle room with the "or shortly thereafter,"' an official told CNN, referring to the time frame Trump offered in the AP interview.
Mnuchin told reporters earlier in the day, during a briefing on the memos Trump signed this afternoon at Treasury, the administration was 'very close to coming out' with its plan.
'The president is focused on this. It has been one of his biggest priorities to create economic growth and we are very focused on that,' Mnuchin said.
The cabinet official said that he's been meeting with the head of the House's tax committee every week for the last month or two, and their staffs have been meeting as often.
'We will be working with Congress on a comprehensive tax reform package,' Mnuchin said. 
Without going into detail, either, Munchin said the driving idea of the plan is to simplify personal taxes, solidify middle income tax cuts and make business taxes more competitive.
'President Trump...he understood how complicated tax reform was even before he became a candidate. Tax reform is way too complicated, he said during the campaign, and we've said now,' Mnuchin told White House reporters.


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President Donald Trump and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin walk back to the White House from the Treasury Department after Trump signed an executive order to review tax regulations


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President Donald Trump greets people as he arrives at the Treasury Department, which is next to door to the White House


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Mnuchin told reporters earlier in the day, during a briefing on the memos Trump signed this afternoon at Treasury, the administration was 'very close to coming out' with its plan 
White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer declined to offer an outline of the deal at an off-camera briefing just afterward.
'I’m not going to even start to talk about the nature of tax reform,' he said. 'They’ve been working for a while now with House and Senate leaderships in undergoing the process of engaging with various stakeholders, but I’m not going to start talking about what’s in and out.'
Trump has been promising mammoth reforms to the nation's tax structure that he says will help corporations and low-to-middle income Americans.
He told Fox News' Jesse Watters in a March interview, 'We're going to get a big reduction, we're going to bring business down from 15% to 20% from 36% and 38% and higher in some instances.
'We are the highest taxed nation in the world. And we are going to bring taxes way down,' Trump said. 'And for middle income, we're also getting rid of brackets. We are going from 7 to 4 or 3 brackets. And that will be such a pleasure.'  
At that time, Trump said Americans with limited income could see their tax burden go down to zero.
'I would like to see zero if you don’t make much. Like zero, and that's what it's going to be, it's going to be zero up to a level,' he said. 'Then it's going be 12.5%, 15%. It's going to be 10%.' 
His proposed tax cut is expected to rival the one Ronald Reagan introduced and passed his first year in office, 1981. 
'It will be the biggest tax cut since Reagan and probably bigger than Reagan,' Trump told Fox News in the March interview.



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'We'll be having a big announcement on Wednesday having to do with tax reform,' Trump said after signing an executive order dealing with another aspect of the code. 'The process has begun long ago, but it really formally begins on Wednesday'


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Mnuchin sowed doubt this week that the tax reform package could pass before August recess, though he still believes it will get the approval of the legislative branch this year.
'It is fair to say it is probably delayed a bit because of the health care,' he said in an interview with the Financial Times.   
President Trump countered that on Tuesday, saying that it's on time. Or at least it will be, if Republicans vote to repeal Obamacare fast enough, he acknowledged.
'We're also working with Congress on tax reform, and simplification, and we're on time,' Trump told an audience at the Snap-On Tool headquarters in Kenosha, Wisconsin. 'If we get that health care approval.'
Trump told the crowd that they needed to get in touch with lawmakers in order to usher a Republican health care bill through. Then tax reform would quickly follow. 
'So press every one of your congressmen, press everybody, because we want to get that approval and it just makes tax reform easier and it makes it better and it's going to make it steeper, it's going to be bigger and that's what we want to do,' the president proclaimed.  
Either way, Trump suggested, a tax reform package was in 'good shape.'
'We have the concept of the plan,' he said. 'We're going to be announcing it very soon.'
But he said again, 'We have to get health care taken care of...And as soon as health care [gets taken] care of, we are going to march very quickly, you're going to watch, we're going to surprise you.'
'Right, Steve Mnuchin? Right?' he said, calling out to his secretary of Treasury. 

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The Hill reported Wednesday that the administration is considering the unusual move of capping deductions for contributions to charity.
That would limit the tax breaks wealthy Americans get for making donations of cash and other assets.
A senior Senate aide said the idea is 'within the realm of possibility,' although it's a long way from becoming policy.
White House spokeswoman Natalie Strom told The Hill that 'all options are on the table until we have a plan to announce.' 
The top marginal income tax rate of 39.6 percent applies to taxable income over $418,400 for single filers and $470,700 for married couples who file joint tax returns.
While lower- and middle-class Americans often get tax deductions for making modest contributions to churches and community charities, the upper crust is more likely to donate in five- and six-figure amounts.
A $100,000 contribution to a cancer charity, church or university, for instance, might ricochet $39,600 back to high-earning taxpayers. 
The Hill noted that right-wingers would also be likely to object: A conservative article of faith is that the government's social safety net should be supplanted in many cases by charities funded at the local level. 


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Trump will need conservatives if he's going to have any shot of getting tax reform. Democrats have made it clear they'll oppose his plan in if it it goes too easy on rich Americans like him.
Another sticking point on reform is whether to implement a 'border adjusted' plan that would tax imports.
House Ways and Means Chairman Kevin Brady has pushed aggressively for the BAT, which he says will help the US compete against Canada, Mexico and China.
'Our competitors are driving much newer, faster models of tax codes. That's why we have to stop taxing worldwide. That's why we have to border adjust our taxes so that we can get into a competition and win worldwide,' Brady has said.
But some Republicans are against such a plan. Economists from two right-of-center think tanks called the border adjusted tax 'a dodgy sales pitch' his week in an op-ed for the Wall Street Journal. 
'What matters from a competitive perspective is whether the playing field is level—and it is,' Veronique de Rugy of George Mason University’s Mercatus Center and Dan Mitchell of the Cato Institute said.
Using Europe as an example, they explained, 'When the German company sells to customers in the U.S., it is subject to the German corporate income tax. The competing American firm selling domestically pays the U.S. corporate income tax. Neither is hit with a VAT. In other words, a level playing field.'

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Senior Trump administration officials told FT that the measure is unlikely to survive - meaning the Republicans could be short $1 trillion in cash over a 10 year span.   
Mnuchin suggested there are other ways that revenue could be raised, though also stated that the 'border adjustment' plan hasn't been taken off the table. 
'Economic growth creates lots of revenues,' Trump's treasury secretary pointed out. 'When you calculate whether it is deficit-neutral or not, there are a bunch of different calculations and a bunch of models.' 
'I am just pointing out the magnitude of what economic growth does,' he added.  
Trump unreleased plan is already being rebuffed by Democrats, who say they won't play ball so long as Trump holds out on releasing his own taxes.
'It's gonna be much harder to get tax reform done if the president doesn't disclose his taxes, for the very simple reason, that when there's a provision in [the] bill, people are gonna say, "Oh, this is for Trump and his business not for the benefit of the American people,' Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer warned.  
Tax Day came and went on Tuesday with no public release from Trump, who says he's under routine audit. Spicer indicated this week that Americans won't even see the president's 2016 returns, as they, too, are, or will be under audit as soon as he files them.



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Post by Donnamarie on Sat Apr 22 2017, 02:23

Thanks annemarie for the latest goings on in Trumpville. I think next week is going to be really interesting in Washington ... between the healthcare bill, the Wall and a possible government shut down.

About the only good thing that happened this week was the surprising release of an Egyptian-American woman, Aya Hijazi and other humanitarian workers who have been held in Egypt for the last three years. Trump's Defense Secretary supposedly orchestrated the release with the President of Egypt. Trump did welcome Sissi to the White House a week ago. Obama never did meet with Sissi at the White House because of Egypt's record on human rights abuses. The Obama Administration also attempted to obtain the release of Hijazi but failed. So it would be interesting to know what motivated Sissi to finally oblige and release her, her husband and others.

What's really surprising is that Trump hasn't even been gloating today about his successful effort. Hmmm ....
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Post by LizzyNY on Sat Apr 22 2017, 13:52

Donnamarie - He probably doesn't want it looked at too closely. Keep an eye out for the opening of the Cairo Trump Tower - or maybe a licensing agreement for Ivanka's merchandise.
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Post by party animal - not! on Sat Apr 22 2017, 14:03

So true, Lizzy.

I think there's also an element of him possibly finding names tricky to remember and pronounce?!

Multiple reports here that he didn't know Kim Jong Um's name - or had forgotten it, and that on several occasions he's called Paul Ryan Ron! Maybe Al Sisi and Aya Hijazi have the same effect.

Or maybe there's some sort of alliance to be formed by Jordan, the US and Egypt?

Other Trumpshire stuff making news here is the state of his health -

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-dangerous-mental-illness-yale-psychiatrist-conference-us-president-unfit-james-gartner-a7694316.html

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Post by Katiedot on Sun Apr 23 2017, 03:39

I dunno about his mental health.  He's a reality TV celebrity and none too bright.  Add to that mix a decent dose of narcissism, and I think that explains Trump pretty well.

All he's needed to do all his life so far is look after daddy's money and watch the pretty ladies do what he wants.  That doesn't really prepare him for a real job.

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I mention the narcissism because a while back I worked for someone like that - his ability to completely bend reality around his current mental needs is something that you wouldn't believe unless you'd seen it for yourself. Very difficult to work for (as a sane person, anyway) because there's just no way of knowing what version of reality he's supporting at any given minute. And yes, he flip-flopped from minute to minute sometimes. Until you realise that he's the one who's got issues, it makes you question your own sanity.
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Post by annemarie on Sun Apr 23 2017, 11:02

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4435848/President-Trump-Melania-award-Purple-Heart-veteran.html

President Trump and Melania insist on personally awarding Purple Heart to Afghanistan veteran after being 'so moved' by his bravery as they visit military hospital

  • President Trump awarded a Purple Heart to a military veteran on Saturday

  • Army sergeant Alvaro Barrientos was wounded in Afghanistan on March 17

  • An Afghan soldier had opened fire inside a base in the Helmand province

  • Trump visited Walter Reed National Military Medical Center in Bethesda, MD. 

  • The trip marked the president's first visit to a military hospital

  • Melania stood by her husband's side as he pinned the medal to the leg amputee 

  • Trump will host a 'big' Pennsylvania rally on April 29, he said on Saturday

  • The event will be on the same day of annual White House Correspondents Dinner

  • The president's quick escape to Maryland is during a huge protest in DC

  • Scientists have begun protesting the administration's environmental policy


By Associated Press and Cheyenne Roundtree For Dailymail.com and Reuters
PUBLISHED: 15:09 EDT, 22 April 2017 UPDATED: 21:31 EDT, 22 April 2017

    
President Donald Trump marked his first visit to a military hospital with wife Melania Trump in order to award a Purple Heart to an Army sergeant.
Trump said he was so moved by the story of Sergeant 1st Class Alvaro Barrientos, who was wounded in Afghanistan on March 17, that he wanted to do the honor himself.
Melania stood by her husband's side at the visit to Walter Reed National Military Medical Center in Bethesda, Maryland, outside Washington, on Saturday. 
Before pinning the award on Barrientos, Trump remarked: 'When I heard about this and I wanted to do it myself.' 
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President Donald Trump marked his first visit to a military hospital with wife Melania on Saturday in order to award a Purple Heart to Army sergeant Alvaro Barrientos (pictured with his wife Tammy center) who was recently wounded in Afghanistan


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Trump said he was so moved by the story of the sergeant that he wanted to do the honor personally. He awarded the man with the Purple Heart at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center in Bethesda, Maryland


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Trump kissed Barrientos's wife Tammy (right) on the cheek before he pinned he award on her husband



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Melania stood by her husband's side as he pinned the Purple Heart onto Barrientos' shirt collar
The occasion marked Trump's first visit as president to the military hospital. 
Barrientos, whose right leg below the knee had been amputated, was wheeled into a hospital atrium in a wheelchair, accompanied by his wife, Tammy.
He was injured when an Afghan soldier opened fire inside a base in the Helmand province and wounded three U.S. soldiers, reported Reuters
The commander of the U.S. military kissed Barrientos' wife before he bestowed the honorable award to the sergeant's left shirt collar.


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The Purple Heart is awarded to service members who are wounded or killed in action.
Besides Barrientos, Trump was expected to meet privately with about a dozen service members who are receiving care at the medical center.
Before leaving the White House, the president tweeted that he looked forward to 'seeing our bravest and greatest Americans.' 


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Melania looked casually elegant in a light beige cropped trench coat, black slacks and a teetering pair of dark pumps 


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Before leaving the White House, the president tweeted that he looked forward to 'seeing our bravest and greatest Americans' 
Also on Saturday, Trump tweeted that he was looking forward to hosting a 'big' rally in Pennsylvania, as he closes out his first 100 days as President of the United States.
The billionaire businessman previously announced he would be skipping the annual White House Correspondents Dinner and his new rally will be held on the same night of the much anticipated event on April 29.

The excursion to Maryland allows Trump to escape from yet another protest held in Washington DC over his administration's environmental policy.
Scientists in the nation's capital took to the streets along with students, research advocates and celebrities to push back against what they say are mounting attacks on science - including research budget cuts by Trump.
The March for Science, coinciding with Earth Day, was anchored in Washington and set to be mirrored in 500 other cities, and attracted celebrities including Bill Nye the Science Guy and Doctor Who actor Peter Capaldi. 


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A protester is seen in front of the Washington Monument in DC, ahead of the central march. The event was described as a call to support and safeguard the scientific community


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Although officially non-partisan, many protesters - such as this person in New York - made him a target for satirical jabs due to his proposed cuts on science funding

In other news of scandals that seem to follow the president, he has come under fire for meeting in 'secret' with two former presidents of Colombia at his Mar-a-Lago estate over the Easter weekend. 
In between family time and Easter service, Trump had an undisclosed, informal meeting with former Colombian presidents Álvaro Uribe and Andrés Pastrana, it was confirmed by the White House on Thursday.
Colombian media outlets pointed the finger at Florida senator Marco Rubio for arranging the quick chat but he denied those accusations in an interview, it was revealed on Saturday.
Rubio said: 'No, I didn't have anything to do with that meeting. I’m a big fan of President Uribe. I didn’t even know he was in Florida. And beyond it, I would say to you, I don’t see what the problem is.' 


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Senator Marco Rubio denied he set up a reported secret meeting between Trump and two former presidents of Colombia over the Easter weekend, it was revealed on Saturday



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Former Colombian presidents Álvaro Uribe (left) and Andrés Pastrana (right) were confirmed as the men that Trump spoke with. Pastrana thanked Trump in a tweet last Friday for his 'cordial and very frank conversation' about Colombian matters 
According to the White House, the meeting was just a brief encounter with Trump as he walked by the two men. 
A spokeswoman told the Miami Herald: 'They were there with a member from the club and briefly said hello when the president walked past them. There wasn’t anything beyond a quick hello.'
Fears have grown about who has access to President Trump, as even the White House made it seem that members of the $200,000 membership resort could happen to have undisclosed talks with Trump. 
The undisclosed meeting comes on the heels of the White House announcing that they would not be releasing the visitor logs of who meets with the president, it said last week Friday. 
White House communications director Michael Dubke told Time that the decision was due to 'the grave national security risks and privacy concerns of the hundreds of thousands of visitors annually.'
White House press secretary Sean Spicer told DailyMail.com during Tuesday's press briefing that the administration wasn't quite prepared to announce how it would handle visitor log records.

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Post by carolhathaway on Sun Apr 23 2017, 13:04

carolhathaway wrote:Last night Borussia Dortmund, a German football (soccer for Americans) team left its hotel in a coach for a match at the Champions League vs. the French champion.
Three explosions happened when the coach passed. Since the coach had bulletproof glass, the attack wasn't as bad as expected, but one of the players was badly injured and needed a surgery on his hand. 
The match was delayed to tonight.

The police tries to find out who was responsible for this attack...

The police found out that a German-Russian man bombed the team bus for stock-profits (no idea how he wanted to benefit from an injured / killed team).
That's a new dimension of crime...
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Post by party animal - not! on Sun Apr 23 2017, 15:45

Good definition of something pretty scary and even scarier, totally self serving and without thought for others.

(Not similar but equally sickening, on Friday night a young hardworking man in Manchester, who had served in Royal Navy subs, heard someone trying to steal his car while he slept, went down to try and stop them, and was killed before they sped off in the car)

This is an interesting article in The Guardian....three guys called Trump, Farage and Assange.......

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/apr/23/when-nigel-farage-met-julian-assange?CMP=fb_gu

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WASHINGTON, DC - APRIL 19: PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP TALKS ABOUT THE VETERANS CHOICE PROGRAM EXTENSION AND IMPROVEMENT ACT BEFORE SIGNING IT IN THE ROOSEVELT ROOM OF THE WHITE HOUSE IN WASHINGTON, DC ON WEDNESDAY, APRIL 19, 2017. (PHOTO BY JABIN BOTSFORD/THE WASHINGTON POST VIA GETTY IMAGES)
From the early days of his campaign, President Donald Trump promised Americans a “big, beautiful wall” built along the border of Mexico — and that Mexico will pay for it. Now, the first half of that pledge is at a standoff with the second half while the federal government teeters on the brink of shutdown.
Trump’s insistence that American taxpayers foot the bill for getting the wall started is one of the thorny issues—along with Obamacare subsidies and expanded military spending—that Congress is wrestling with as lawmakers in Washington face a deadline for passing this year’s budget. Inaction would lead to a shutdown of the federal government.
But how likely is a shutdown — and what would it mean to everyday life?
Why is the government (potentially) shutting down?
In the end, it all really comes down to funding the proposed wall on the Mexican border. Every year, Congress must outline and vote on a federal budget. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer told The Hill that budget negotiations between Republicans and Democrats were actually going pretty well, until the White House got involved and called for funding for the wall.
“I don’t think [a government shutdown] is inevitable at all,” Schemer, a New York Democrat said. “Parties were negotiating quite well, until Donald Trump and the White House threw a monkey wrench into this, with the wall. It’s my view that if the president stepped out of it, we could get a budget done by Friday.”



And White House officials seem to agree — at least on the prospect of avoiding a shutdown. On Sunday, White House officials said they didn’t want the government to shut down over the wall negotiations, and that “there’s no interest in a shutdown” and they’ll “do what it takes” to avoid one, according to CNN.
Mick Mulvaney, Trump’s budget director, offered Democrats a compromise, of sorts, in exchange for their agreement to fund at least initial construction of the wall: A dollar towards Obamacare subsidies for low-income Americans for every dollar that’s dedicated to building the wall.
Democrats were not much moved.
“The US government is supposed to take care of its citizens and, according to the President, Mexico is supposed to pay for the wall,” Matt House, a spokesperson for Schumer, said, according to CNN. “If the administration would drop their eleventh-hour demand for a wall that Democrats, and a good number of Republicans oppose, congressional leaders could quickly reach a deal.”
There is bipartisan opposition to shutting down the government over the wall, according to the New York Times, which could get in Trump’s way as his first 100 days in office come to an end — the same day as the budget deadline.
Wait, isn’t Mexico paying for the wall?
Trump may have campaigned on the promise of Mexico paying for the wall, but that’s definitely not happening any time soon. Even Trump all but admitted this in a series of tweets this weekend.



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“Eventually, but at a later date so we can get started early,” Trump tweeted about the wall’s funding. “Mexico will be paying, in some form, for the badly needed border wall.”



Trump contends that the plan is to have Mexico pay for the wall at a later date, so construction can begin as soon as possible. However, as Mexican president Enrique Peña Nieto has repeatedly said his country will “of course” not pay for the wall (and their ex-president, Vincente Fox, said the same in more colorful language), there’s a sizable chance that if Congress decides to fund the wall, reimbursement from Mexico will never come.
How long will a shutdown last?
It’s hard to say, but likely not long. Shutdowns, of course, are not a good thing: They interrupt the American democracy and no party wants to take responsibility (or be blamed by the American people.) The last shutdown, in 2013, lasted for 16 days. Before that, there hadn’t been one for nearly 20 years — since that which started at the end of 1995, and lasted for 21 days, until January 1996. The length of that particular shutdown, however, could be explained by timing (it fell over the holidays.)
So if it does happen this time, less than a month would be a safe bet based on precedent.
How will a shutdown affect my life?
Federal employees will feel the most immediate impact, barred from work—and the pay that comes with their hours at the office.
“Critical” workers would be excluded so that Post Offices will still be open, USDA food inspections will still be done and air-traffic controllers will still be in their towers making sure all our planes land safely, according to CNN. Services for veterans also shouldn’t be affected, as their budget is created a year in advance. In the courts, all employees will keep working for 10 business days after the start of the shutdown, with “non-essential” employees being barred from work after that. Cases, however, will still be heard.
And if you had a trip planned to a national park, you’re out of luck: Those will all be closed throughout the duration of the shutdown. You also can’t get loans from the government during a shutdown, nor a new gun permit.
The shutdown will have the most profound — and smelly — effect on the lives of those who live in the nation’s capital. Because Congress approves Washington, D.C.’s budget, trash collection will cease in the city until end the of the shutdown. And for a city that’s a part-time home to Congress and produces 500 tons of trash, according to the Washington Post, that’s even more incentive for any shutdown to come to a quick wrap-up.[/size]

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4446322/Trump-blasts-judge-blocking-sanctuary-city-funding-ban.html

'They have blood on their hands': Furious Trump blasts the 'egregious overreach' of San Francisco judge who blocked his sanctuary city crackdown and says liberal lawmakers are responsible for DEATHS of Americans

  • The White House lashed out after an Obama-appointed judge in San Francisco ruled against Trump's proposed funding ban

  • He wanted to block funding for cities that can't prove they co-operate with immigration enforcement

  • The Trump administration said his decision was a 'gift to gangs' and those who made the sanctuary city laws had the 'blood' of US citizens on their hands

  • It also invoked the memory of Kathryn Steinle, a 32-year-old woman who was shot dead in San Francisco by an illegal immigrant in 2015 

  • Judge William Orrick, of the federal 9th Circuit, is the latest to rule against Trump after the same circuit ruled against his travel ban

  • Executive order signed by Trump had said federal funding would be withheld but administration and cities do not agree on its meaning

  • San Francisco and Santa Clara County sued, claiming they could lose billions and judge put measure on hold pending a full hearing


By James Wilkinson For Dailymail.com and Associated Press
PUBLISHED: 00:43 EDT, 26 April 2017 UPDATED: 05:00 EDT, 26 April 2017

    




The White House has blasted a judge for blocking his sanctuary city crackdown and criticized opponents of its immigration policies in the strongest terms yet, saying anti-ICE lawmakers have 'the blood of dead Americans on their hands.'
In a statement released on Tuesday night the Trump administration claimed  US District Judge William Orrick's decision to block a ban on funding for sanctuary cities was 'a gift to criminal gangs and cartels.'
It went on to invoke the death of Kathryn Steinle, the 32-year-old woman shot dead by an illegal immigrant in Orrick's city of San Francisco in 2015.
'San Francisco, and cities like it, are putting the well-being of criminal aliens before the safety of our citizens, and those city officials who authored these policies have the blood of dead Americans on their hands,' the statement said. 
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The startling remarks came after Orrick blocked an order to withhold funding from communities that limit cooperation with US immigration authorities.
Orrick ruled the president had no authority to attach new conditions to federal spending in a lawsuit against the executive order targeting 'sanctuary cities'.
The decision will stay in place while the lawsuit works its way through court.
The White House described the decision as 'another blow' for 'the rule of law, as an unelected judge unilaterally rewrote immigration policy for our Nation.'

THE KILLING OF KATHRYN STEINLE


The White House's incendiary rant makes reference to San Francisco murder victim 'Kate Steinle', in reference to Judge Orrick's ruling.
Kathryn Steinle was shot dead on a pier in the city in 2015 by Juan Francisco Lopez-Sanchez, who had previously been deported from the US five times.
Her father, Jim Steinle, attempted first aid but was unable to save her. She was 32 years old.

Sanchez told police that he'd found the gun that killed Steinle wrapped in a T-shirt under a bench and that he had been trying to shoot seals. He said he was groggy after eating sleeping pills he found in a trash can,
The gun had been stolen from a Bureau of Land Management vehicle the night before.
Sanchez first entered the US in 1991 and was deported in 1994. In-between he had four felony drug convictions, including manufacturing narcotics.
He then bounced in and out of the country and was deported for the final time in 2009. He re-entered the US three months later and was jailed.
Sanchez was transferred on March 26, 2015, to San Francisco authorities on an outstanding drug warrant; they later released him as the warrant was out of date. ICE demanded they hand him over, but the San Francisco authorities refused and released him.
Three months later he shot and killed Steinle. 

Kathryn Steinle (pictured) was shot dead in San Francisco in 2015 by Juan Francisco Lopez Sanchez, who had been deported from the US five times previously

It went on to claim that cities that don't turn over their jailed criminals to immigration officials 'are engaged in the dangerous and unlawful nullification of Federal law in an attempt to erase our borders.'
'This decision occurred in the same sanctuary city that released the 5-time deported illegal immigrant who gunned down innocent Kate Steinle in her father's arms,' it said.
'San Francisco, and cities like it, are putting the well-being of criminal aliens before the safety of our citizens, and those city officials who authored these policies have the blood of dead Americans on their hands. 
'This San Francisco judge's erroneous ruling is a gift to the criminal gang and cartel element in our country, empowering the worst kind of human trafficking and sex trafficking, and putting thousands of innocent lives at risk.'
The statement concluded by saying the White House was 'confident' that it would be vindicated by the Supreme Court, and that it would 'pursue all legal remedies to the sanctuary city threat that imperils our citizens.'
The Trump administration and disagreed with the two California governments that sued over the order about its scope during a recent court hearing.
San Francisco and Santa Clara County argued that it threatened billions of dollars in federal funding for each of them, making it difficult to plan their budgets. 



'It's not like it's just some small amount of money,' John Keker, an attorney for Santa Clara County, told Orrick - an Obama-era appointee to the federal bench - at the April 14 hearing.
Chad Readler, acting assistant attorney general, said the county and San Francisco were interpreting the executive order too broadly. 
The funding cutoff applies to three Justice Department and Homeland Security Department grants that require complying with a federal law that local governments not block officials from providing people's immigration status, he said.
The order would affect less than $1 million in funding for Santa Clara County and possibly no money for San Francisco, Readler said.
Republican President Donald Trump was using a 'bully pulpit' to 'encourage communities and states to comply with the law,' Readler said.
In his ruling, Orrick sided with San Francisco and Santa Clara, saying the order 'by its plain language, attempts to reach all federal grants, not merely the three mentioned at the hearing.'
'The rest of the order is broader still, addressing all federal funding,' Orrick said. 
'And if there was doubt about the scope of the order, the president and attorney general have erased it with their public comments.'
He said: 'Federal funding that bears no meaningful relationship to immigration enforcement cannot be threatened merely because a jurisdiction chooses an immigration enforcement strategy of which the president disapproves.'

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Today, the rule of law suffered another blow, as an unelected judge unilaterally rewrote immigration policy for our Nation. 
Federal law explicitly states that a Federal, State or Local government entity or official may not prohibit, or in any way restrict, any government entity or official from sending to, or receiving from, the Immigration and Naturalization Service information regarding the citizenship or immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of any individual. 8 U.S.C. 1373(a). 
That means, according to Congress, a city that prohibits its officials from providing information to federal immigration authorities - a sanctuary city - is violating the law. 
Sanctuary cities, like San Francisco, block their jails from turning over criminal aliens to Federal authorities for deportation. 
These cities are engaged in the dangerous and unlawful nullification of Federal law in an attempt to erase our borders.
Once again, a single district judge - this time in San Francisco - has ignored Federal immigration law to set a new immigration policy for the entire country. 
This decision occurred in the same sanctuary city that released the 5-time deported illegal immigrant who gunned down innocent Kate Steinle in her father's arms. 
San Francisco, and cities like it, are putting the well-being of criminal aliens before the safety of our citizens, and those city officials who authored these policies have the blood of dead Americans on their hands. 
This San Francisco judge's erroneous ruling is a gift to the criminal gang and cartel element in our country, empowering the worst kind of human trafficking and sex trafficking, and putting thousands of innocent lives at risk.
This case is yet one more example of egregious overreach by a single, unelected district judge. 
Todays [sic] ruling undermines faith in our legal system and raises serious questions about circuit shopping. 
But we are confident we will ultimately prevail in the Supreme Court, just as we will prevail in our lawful efforts to impose immigration restrictions necessary to keep terrorists out of the United States.
In the meantime, we will pursue all legal remedies to the sanctuary city threat that imperils our citizens, and continue our efforts to ramp up enforcement to remove the criminal and gang element from our country. 
Ultimately, this is a fight between sovereignty and open borders, between the rule of law and lawlessness, and between hardworking Americans and those who would undermine their safety and freedom.

The Trump administration says sanctuary cities allow dangerous criminals back on the street and that the order is needed to keep the country safe. 
San Francisco and other sanctuary cities say turning local police into immigration officers erodes trust that's needed to get people to report crime.
The order also has led to lawsuits by Seattle; two Massachusetts cities, Lawrence and Chelsea; and a third San Francisco Bay Area government, the city of Richmond. The San Francisco and Santa Clara County suits were the first to get a hearing before a judge.

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San Francisco and the county argued in court documents that the president did not have the authority to set conditions on the allocation of federal funds and could not force local officials to enforce federal immigration law.
They also said Trump's order applied to local governments that didn't detain immigrants for possible deportation in response to federal requests, not just those that refused to provide people's immigration status.
The Department of Justice responded that the city and county's lawsuits were premature because decisions about withholding funds and what local governments qualified as sanctuary cities had yet to be made.
The sanctuary city order was among a flurry of immigration measures Trump has signed since taking office in January, including a ban on travelers from seven Muslim-majority countries and a directive calling for a wall on the border with Mexico.
A judge from the 9th Circuit blocked the initial travel ban from seven Muslim-majority countries, and appeal judges from the circuit also ruled against it.
Trump suggested breaking up the circuit and said that it was notoriously liberal. 
Sanctuary cities have become increasingly contentious, with Attorney General Jeff Sessions issuing harsh criticism last week of cities including New York which generally refuse to cooperate with immigration authorities.


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Taking a tough line: Jeff Sessions, the attorney general, sent nine jurisdictions letters on Friday warning they would lose key grant money unless they document cooperation with immigration authorities

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The Trump administration has suggested that cities, counties or states which prohibit law enforcement from cooperating with federal immigration authorities would lose federal funding.
Mayors from some of the cities affected met Sessions on Tuesday but emerged from the meeting saying they remain confused about how to prove their police aren't prohibited from cooperating with immigration authorities - a requirement for the money.
The Justice Department has warned some jurisdictions that they could lose some law enforcement grant money if they don't prove their local police and sheriffs are able to share information with federal immigration authorities about the citizenship status of people in their custody. 
Sessions has labeled cities that bar such information-sharing as 'sanctuary cities.'
'We want all jurisdictions to enthusiastically support the laws of the United States that require the removal of criminal aliens, as many jurisdictions already do,' Sessions said in a statement released after the meeting with representatives of the U.S. Conference of Mayors.
But the officials who met with Sessions said practical questions remain about how to follow the rules.
For example, does that mean a sheriff's department must tell Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) about an inmate's incarceration by phone? 
Or will an inmate's fingerprint information, taken by the jail and then shared with the FBI and ICE, be enough? And how long can a local jail hold someone for immigration authorities without violating their rights?
'We got more clarity than we've ever received, but we also have other thorny issues to sort through,' said Jorge Elorza, the mayor of Providence, Rhode Island, after the hour-long meeting. 
It was the first time the delegation of mayors met with Sessions since the department sent nine jurisdictions letters on Friday warning they would lose key grant money unless they document cooperation with immigration authorities.
The jurisdictions, which include the state of California and major cities like Chicago, New York and Philadelphia, were places the Justice Department's inspector general previously identified as having barriers to information-sharing among local police and immigration officials. Some disputed they met the 'sanctuary city' title.
New Orleans Mayor Mitch Landrieu, whose city received one of the letters, said he provided Sessions with proof of compliance during Tuesday's meeting but remained stunned the city received a warning in the first place, as it drafted its policies in consultation with federal immigration and Homeland Security officials.
The delegation also included mayors from Columbia, South Carolina; Gary, Indiana; and Austin, Texas. The meeting touched on a number of other concerns related to the Trump administration's immigration policies they said remain confusing.
On a number of immigration issues, 'we hear very different messages from (Homeland Security), DOJ and also the White House,' Elorza said. 'Just give us clarity and please have one, clear policy so we can know where we stand.'

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Post by carolhathaway Yesterday at 14:23

As far as I understood it (and from what I read in German newspaper), the Californian judge said that Trump's decret was against the constitution / law because budget is a responsibility of the Congress, and the President is not allowed to cut the Congresses job.

Of course every murder is too much. But you can never prevent them, there will always be people who kill accidently, because of greed, rage, jealousy or simply because of satisfaction.
To pick one murder, committed by an illegal immigrant, is like saying: "If we hadn't allowed refugees to come to Germany, three people were still alive who were murdered by two refugees."
You can always ask "What if...", it's hypothetic.
Maybe another illegal immigrant will save dozens of lifes after an accident. Maybe another one will become father or mother of somebody who finds a way to cure cancer. And if these immigrants or refugees hadn't survived, these lifes weren't saved.

A practical way to save lifes would be to tighten laws against guns. Because it's much easier to kill somebody when you've got easy access to a gun. But they've got a powerful lobby who puts lots of money into Congress and government to stop them to even consider that...


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Post by annemarie Yesterday at 16:53

That woman could have been killed by anyone, he has chosen an immigrant to try and prove his point. 

You can not punish an entire city for what is not done, they need to find a way to enforce the law.

Donald dumb loves guns and won't do anything about that situation.

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Post by LizzyNY Yesterday at 17:55

I would love to know how a 7-time felon and 5-time deportee was in this country in the first place. And if he, by some circumstance, was able to keep returning, why was he on the streets after committing even one felony? He should have been in jail.

IMO, this has less to do with criminals crossing the border than with local law enforcement and ICE not doing their jobs.
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Post by carolhathaway Yesterday at 21:22

... and how did he get a gun to shoot somebody?
IF at least the legal ways for him to get one would be blocked (I know there's always the black market, but this might be a barrier as well).
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Post by LizzyNY Yesterday at 22:41

Carolhathaway - If you're a criminal in this country getting a gun on the streets is as easy as getting a Big Mac.
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Post by annemarie Today at 00:45

True Lizzy you can get a gun anywhere that is not hard , sadly.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4448694/White-House-readies-order-quit-NAFTA-administration-official.html

Trump team drafts executive order to quit NAFTA in dramatic move which could end trade pact with Mexico and Canada

  • White House official reveals a draft executive order to pull out of the North American Free Trade Agreement is being considered 

  • Trump has vowed to pull out of the deal if he cannot secure better terms for the U.S. from the other two members - Canada and Mexico

  • Trump has accused Mexico of destroying U.S. jobs, and this week he set 20 percent tariffs on imports of Canadian softwood lumber

  • Canada says it it willing to talk any time on a deal; Trump has already pulled out of the Trans Pacific Partnership trade agreement plan


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PUBLISHED: 13:20 EDT, 26 April 2017 UPDATED: 16:33 EDT, 26 April 2017

    



A draft executive order to withdraw the United States from the North American Free Trade Agreement is under consideration, a senior Trump administration official said on Wednesday, confirming an earlier report from Politico.
It was unclear whether the order would be enacted by President Donald Trump, who has vowed to pull out from NAFTA - a U.S., Mexico and Canada trade pact - if he cannot win better terms for America.
Trump has accused Mexico of destroying U.S. jobs, and this week he set 20 percent tariffs on imports of Canadian softwood lumber, setting a tense tone as the three countries prepared to renegotiate the 23-year-old trade pact.


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Executive order signing: Trump signed one on national monuments on Wednesday - and shortly afterwards White House officials were revealed to be drafting one withdrawing from NAFTA
Last week, Trump also called Canada's dairy protections 'unfair.' Trump has already pulled out of the Trans Pacific Partnership trade agreement which was being championed by the Obama White House.
Mexico had expected to start NAFTA renegotiations in August but the possible executive order could add urgency to the timeline.
Trump criticized Mexico extensively during his presidential campaign. The United States went from running a small trade surplus with Mexico in the early 1990s to a $63 billion deficit in 2016.
Canada is ready to come to talks on renewing the North American Free Trade Agreement at any time, a Canadian official said in reaction to the disclosure.
'At this moment NAFTA negotiations have not started. Canada is ready to come to the table at any time,' said Alex Lawrence, a spokesman for Canadian Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland.
The country's foreign minister Chrystia Freeland said that it and the U.S. have made progress in recent days on a dispute over Canadian lumber exports 'but we are not there yet'.

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Freeland, speaking to reporters on a conference call, also said the United States should treat Canada with respect, given that Canada is a major supplier of softwood.
U.S. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross on Monday announced tariffs on Canadian lumber exports, which U.S. producers complain are unfairly subsidized. The move triggered the fifth formal bilateral dispute over Canadian lumber in less than 40 years.
Freeland said she had had long conversations with Ross on Sunday and Monday about lumber.
'We have made progress in our conversations but we are not there yet,' she said. 'We do believe a negotiated deal is achievable. There is a deal to be had ... but we are also absolutely prepared to fight this out in the courts.'
The spat over tariffs erupted in the run-up to talks on updating the three-nation North American Free Trade Agreement, which Trump says he will abandon unless big changes are agreed.


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Lumber: Canadian soft wood exports are at the eye of the storm. The country's vast forest resources - such as these in Squamish, British Columbia, make it a huge exporter


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Imports: Canadian lumber crossing the border at Champlain, New York is part of a massive trade across the border, with 75 per cent of Canadian exports going to the U.S.
That could have calamitous consequences for Canada, which sends 75 percent of all exports to the United States.
Perrin Beatty, president of the Canadian Chamber of Commerce and a minister in the former Conservative government that negotiated NAFTA, said the lumber dispute would 'clearly contaminate' the talks on the trade agreement.
'If your negotiating partner across the (table) decides to smack you periodically, that affects the wider relationship,' he said in a phone interview from the United States, where he is on a trip to stress the benefits of the trade relationship.
Freeland, who described the tariffs as 'punitive, unfair and just plain wrong', said Canada would strongly defend its domestic industry.
Stocks in Canadian lumber firms, which rose on Tuesday on market relief that the duties had not been higher, posted more mixed results in early trading on Wednesday. Resolute Forest Products Inc shares were up 9.7 percent while West Fraser Timber Co Ltd fell by 6.0 percent.
In Washington, the National Association of Homebuilders said the new duties would hurt American wages and raise house prices.
But in a report issued on Wednesday, the Fitch Ratings agency said the tariffs should not result in material pressure for U.S. homebuilders, given that the increased cost per house would be around $850. 


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