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Post by it's me on Wed 08 Feb 2017, 06:23

Well
Any campaign b..shts
Now are 
Pouts facepalm facepalm facepalm facepalm lies
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Post by it's me on Wed 08 Feb 2017, 06:38

Well

After letting us know how many indispensable immigrants are in America

Now he is getting all together press and media

Against him


Trump falsely claims US murder rate is 'highest' in 47 years

And about falsely claiming 
Press don't talk enough of terroristic attacks


And also now we know where  terrorists come from 
Not much from the infamous 7 countries 


Well done dumbtrump cheers
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Post by carolhathaway on Wed 08 Feb 2017, 09:35

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Post by carolhathaway on Wed 08 Feb 2017, 09:57

Last night Sen. Elizabeth Warren was cut off from speaking because she critisized Jeff Sessions - with reading a letter from Loretta King:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/07/politics/elizabeth-warren-mitch-mcconnell/

But I'm sure, that's just fake news...


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Post by annemarie on Wed 08 Feb 2017, 10:22

Maybe, she has finally woken up and realized the man she married is awful. 

She probably knows leaving isn't an option I'm guessing she doesn't want to lose her gilded lifestyle.

Lizzy a body language expert said she in nothing more than an object to him. That is sad and it shows.

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Post by it's me on Wed 08 Feb 2017, 12:22

Can't copy more

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38901498


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The 1,172 mile (1,886km), four-state project is almost finished except for a one-mile stretch under Lake Oahe in North Dakota, where demonstrators have set up protest encampments. 
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Post by annemarie on Wed 08 Feb 2017, 13:56

Senate show down Elizabeth Warren told to be quiet after she quotes Coretta Scott King over Jeff sessions.

http://people.com/politics/elizabeth-warren-ordered-quiet-after-quoting-coretta-scott-king/

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Post by Donnamarie on Wed 08 Feb 2017, 14:15

The Senate Majority Leader, Mitch McConnell, once again 
obstructing our democratic process.  He was within his right to object last night but it was totally unnecessary.  Sessions is going to be confirmed anyway.  And to many it was insulting to the words and memory of Coretta Scott King that Warren was silenced.  McConnell and his team made it their mission to obstruct Obama as much as they could during Obama's eight years in office.  And it was McConnell who decided not to even give a hearing to Obama's choice for Supreme Court Justice last year.
He is not a congressional leader that I respect.  He is part of the problem that exists in Congress.
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Post by carolhathaway on Wed 08 Feb 2017, 14:44

Donna,
if McConnell had let Warren read Loretta King's letter, it hadn't gotten as much attention as his action to cut her off...

I guess McConnell didn't  want to hear any critics to Sessions to prohibit any discussions about him being a racist, but that's  not how democracy works.
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Post by annemarie on Wed 08 Feb 2017, 19:09

Bernie Saunders read Coretta Scott kings letter on the senate floor.

http://people.com/politics/Bernie-sanders-Coretta-Scott-king-letter-senate-elizabeth-warren/

they used a rarely used chamber regulation so that senator Warren couldn't speak.

It  Prohibits senators from insulting each other on the senate floor.

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Post by Donnamarie on Wed 08 Feb 2017, 20:22

More evidence that McConnell is a hypocrite, at the VERY least.... back in 2015 when Senator Ted Cruz was speaking on the Senate floor he accused McConnell of false statements.  There was no invoking of this rarely used regulation, Rule 19, against Cruz.  

Good for Sanders!  Glad he stood up to what is truly disgraceful.  The behavior of the Republican Party has been disgraceful.  It's not enough that they are enabling Trump but then they have to insult a fellow senator while she was reading the words of Coretta Scott King while making an argument against a Cabinet nominee.  It seems like she should be well within her rights to argue and present supporting evidence against a Cabinet nominee during the nomination process.  scratch
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Post by Donnamarie on Wed 08 Feb 2017, 21:10

I just read a story that Trump tweeted today, lashing out at Nordstrom's for pulling Ivanka's clothing line from their store.  "Terrible" he tweeted.  It was news earlier this week that Nordstrom's was pulling her line because of low sales.  Trump should understand that is how business works.  He's a f***ing businessman.  

The reason Ivanka's clothing line is selling poorly is because of her father.  Plain and simple.  There is a Lord & Taylor store near me.  They have a section of their store devoted to her line.  Every time I've been in there no one is in that department.  Living where I live it is understandable why most women here would not want to purchase anything with the Trump name on it.  
Most here lean democratic.  I suspect that many other stores in more urban areas that carry her line  are coming up against the same problem and they may follow suit.
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Post by annemarie on Wed 08 Feb 2017, 21:32

We know it's his fault yet he will never admit it.

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Post by carolhathaway on Wed 08 Feb 2017, 21:44

Donna,
are you talking about this tweet?

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/829356871848951809

What's the next business thing he'll tweet?
'It's so unfair, people don't book my hotels anymore!'
Five minutes later:
'I was talking about my sons hotels!'
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Post by party animal - not! on Wed 08 Feb 2017, 22:18

......and Helen Kennedy's twitter page just below is quite revealing..apparently he tweeted it, instagrammed it. facebooked (is that a word yet?) it, etc etc and then sent Sean Spicer out to deal with the flack........

There seems to be a rumour that he may not be able to read very well.......? People seemed to notice that at the church service before the innauguration when he looked at the service pamphlet and then put it down on the seat and told Melania to do the same..........

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Post by carolhathaway on Wed 08 Feb 2017, 22:29

He even made Spicer to give an official statement about that? I don't believe it!

The very few pro-Trump comments about his tweet are like:
'A father has the right to support his daughter' and:
'This is not an official POTUS page but a page by the person Trump.'

He just made clear that he sees it as a presidential organ...
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Post by party animal - not! on Wed 08 Feb 2017, 22:43

More on the Dakota Pipeline.

Apparently Seattle and Davis are pulling out of deals with Wells Fargo........

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Post by carolhathaway on Wed 08 Feb 2017, 22:45

Another great statement by Spicer concerning Elizabeth Warren / McConnell / Cummings:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Yamiche/status/829413450224959490

I have no words for this crap!
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Post by Donnamarie on Thu 09 Feb 2017, 00:01

Carol,  yes that's the tweet I was referencing.

PAN, did you mean to post links.  If so they aren't showing up in your messages :/

Yes, crap.  All of this Trump drama is crap.  He is a small, petty man with the biggest ego I've ever come across in American politics.
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Post by party animal - not! on Thu 09 Feb 2017, 00:10

No, Donnamarie, but I'll find them and post.

Meanwhile his pick for Attorney General is less than impressed:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38914598

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Post by Donnamarie on Thu 09 Feb 2017, 01:48

Sorry PAN I misunderstood 

You don't need to post.  It's ok.  You do more than your fair share
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Post by annemarie on Thu 09 Feb 2017, 17:36

Well Trump has said that Gorsuch didn't say what he said to several different people.

He said that Gorsuch's words were misrepresented by Senator Blumental.  And that Blumenthal who said he

served in Vietnam and he  didn't (major lie ) now misrepresented what Gorsuch said.

https://time.com/4665259/neil-gorsuch-donald-trump-judges-supreme-court/

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Post by fava on Thu 09 Feb 2017, 17:49

carolhathaway wrote:He even made Spicer to give an official statement about that? I don't believe it!

The very few pro-Trump comments about his tweet are like:
'A father has the right to support his daughter' and:
'This is not an official POTUS page but a page by the person Trump.'

He just made clear that he sees it as a presidential organ...
But he did tweet it on the official POTUS page-- he retweeted his own @real post.

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Post by carolhathaway on Thu 09 Feb 2017, 18:12

Yes, fava,
I know. But that's what others wrote...

If he still used his private twitter account, he should differ sharply between the private person and the president. But he doesn't seem to understand or to accept this...
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Post by party animal - not! on Thu 09 Feb 2017, 18:17

And Kellyanne Conway chooses not to understand (or care) that she might be breaking the law........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoN4PgV8470

Sean Spicer isn't that great either

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/sean-spicer-creates-fake-atlanta-terror-attack-story-a7570561.html

Love Stephen Colbert, who after this went on to interview Jake Tapper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLw-zd87wVk

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Post by Donnamarie on Thu 09 Feb 2017, 18:35

It is outrageous that Spicer kept claiming there was a terror attack in Atlanta.  He said it several times then he corrected himself.  He meant Orlando.  BS, he was hoping Trump's supporters would just nod and go along in agreement.   Trump and all of his minions are embarrassments!  And liars.
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Post by carolhathaway on Thu 09 Feb 2017, 19:17

Donna,
Georgia or Florida, there's not much difference... LOL!
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Post by LizzyNY on Thu 09 Feb 2017, 23:41

Donnamarie - There was a mass shooting in Atlanta years ago. (There have been so many I can't remember the specifics.) Maybe that's the one he was talking about - although the shooter that time was home grown.
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Post by Donnamarie on Fri 10 Feb 2017, 01:36

Right Lizzy. It was in 1996.  It was certainly home grown. It was a white supremacist sympathizer.  How could Spicer get that so wrong?

But it's ironic isn't it?  Trump is so concerned about the U.S. being attacked by Islamic terrorists that he fails to see that we have incurred far more home grown terrorist attacks than attacks from terrorists overseas.  Seems to me our government should be taking a serious look at the role white supremacy has played in conducting terrorist attacks in our own country. But we know that won't happen because we know who is whispering in his ear every single day! Between Bannon and Jeff Sessions as Attorney General we can pretty much be assured there will be no crackdown on white supremacist activities here in the U.S.
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Post by carolhathaway on Fri 10 Feb 2017, 09:54

Of course there is islamistic terror, no doubt about that. But it's simply the question if that's the biggest issue to fear (I'm much more concerned about these people running your country at the moment) and also if we allow this fear to dictate our lives...
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Post by Donnamarie on Fri 10 Feb 2017, 19:30

carol, couldnt agree more. In my mind Trump is a far bigger threat to our country than a Islamic terror attack ... as awful as that would be. Promoting fear, continually telling lies, questioning media legitimacy and disregard for our Constitution is not good for our country. Trump announced a little while ago he will be announcing a new quick action on national security next week. This should be interesting.
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Post by party animal - not! on Fri 10 Feb 2017, 19:48

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08cw1dd/bbc-news-at-ten-09022017

I hope you can get to see this from the BBC News last night. I may be able to post it another if so.

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Post by LizzyNY on Fri 10 Feb 2017, 21:56

PAN -  Apparently it only works in the UK.
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Post by Donnamarie on Fri 10 Feb 2017, 23:47

Yea. I couldn't view it either PAN. What's it about? Maybe I can search it out from my end.
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Post by party animal - not! on Sat 11 Feb 2017, 00:14

It's a BBC News at Ten report about yesterday's happenings in Washington and then they sent a crew out to Montana to get people's views from a relatively small town.....I have to say I was stunned........sorry it didn't work folks

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Post by Donnamarie on Sat 11 Feb 2017, 03:49

I found this on the BBC PAN.  I don't know if you can view this link

U.S. Preacher's warning to Islamic militants 'The women of Montana are armed'

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38926728


Very disturbing piece. What country do I live in?


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Post by carolhathaway on Sat 11 Feb 2017, 08:33

Richard Gere said something quite remarkable at the Berlinale yesterday:

http://variety.com/2017/film/festivals/berlinale-2017-richard-gere-1201984158/
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Post by annemarie on Sat 11 Feb 2017, 11:04

Yes because Montana is where they will strike just really.

It's America only it's ugly nastiness is being shown to the world.

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Post by party animal - not! on Sat 11 Feb 2017, 12:05

That's the piece I was trying to post, Donnamarie. Thank you.

BBC News are doing a whole series like this I think and travelling to different states to get people's opinions.

Sometimes I wonder if the sheer size of the country means there's a degree of introspection in parts of it. 

Yep, what Gere said is so true, but many would dismiss it as elitist - if they ever read the piece. Shame he hasn't (to my knowledge) had the platform in the States to say it.

This young lady is good for a giggle isn't she!?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/tomi-lahren-facebook-celebrity-refugees-conservative-video-donald-trump-racism-crime-rape-murder-a7574471.html

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Post by LizzyNY on Sat 11 Feb 2017, 14:36

PAN - Considering how many people she impacts with her stupidity, NO! she isn't good for a giggle at all. Giving her  ignorance a platform is  dangerous and the number of people who agree with her is frightening. As Donnamarie said, people like this make me wonder hat country I live in.
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Post by carolhathaway on Sat 11 Feb 2017, 15:32

I stopped this after about one minute because there was just so much stupidity I couldn't  bear it...
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Post by party animal - not! on Sat 11 Feb 2017, 15:35

I know, Lizzy. I was being sarcastic and I think it's terrible that she's being given a platform. She seems to be missing a sense of humour too like many of them.

I thought her interview with Trevor Noah spoke volumes........how he stayed calm I do not know

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Post by LizzyNY on Sat 11 Feb 2017, 16:19

PAN - Didn't mean to vent at you. People like her make me sick and they're all crawling out of the woodwork since Trump was elected. I'm beginning to think it's time to call out the designated survivor - before these idiots tear our country apart!
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Post by Donnamarie on Sat 11 Feb 2017, 16:20

I went to YouTube and watched the full interview with Lahren. I too was impressed with Noah's ability to keep his composure and to keep asking the intelligent questions. If Bill Maher was doing this bit all hell would have broken out. But this woman's comments and perspective run right in line to how many people in the U.S. feel about race and patriotism. I've never heard of her before and hopefully she will never become popular enough for mainstream media.
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Post by annemarie on Sat 11 Feb 2017, 18:31

So Ivanka her husband and kids took air force one to Mar a Lago, this is ridiculous.

She has enough money to take a private jet or how about she use her dads plane.

So tax payers are footing the bill for this nonsense .

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Post by LizzyNY on Sat 11 Feb 2017, 19:45

annemarie - Are you surprised? Trump doesn't believe in paying his fair share of anything. He doesn't pay taxes, he stiffs people who do work for him, he sues people into oblivion to avoid paying what he legitimately owes. Apparently his children feel just as entitled as he does. I'd love to see their whole financial empire collapse so they'd be forced to pay their own way like the rest of us.

Did you read where the Secret Service is looking to rent space in Trump Tower to use when they're here to protect him? So now they're going to pay him for the right to protect him? Disgusting!
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Post by annemarie on Sat 11 Feb 2017, 20:05

Yep Lizzy, I saw that it is just crazy there should be some sort of rule against this .

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Post by LizzyNY on Sat 11 Feb 2017, 20:29

annemarie - There is! He's not allowed to make money from his businesses while he's president. It's a violation of ethics rules laid out in the Constitution. Not that the Republicans will invoke it, but maybe the Dems will. IMO. Jerry Nadler is a hero!
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Post by annemarie on Sat 11 Feb 2017, 20:37

Yes he is a hero and I hope something is done.

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Post by LizzyNY on Sat 11 Feb 2017, 20:59

I just realized many of you won't know what the heck annemarie and I are talking about. Sorry about that. To explain:

Jerry Nadler is a NYC Congressman who has introduced a "resolution of inquiry" to the House Judiciary Committee to compel the Justice Department to provide the House of Representatives with whatever information it has on Trump and his associates, including any material unearthed in criminal probes or counterintelligence investigations. This could prove interesting, as Michael Flynn (national security advisor) and advisors Paul Manafort, Carter Page and Roger Stone are already under investigation.

The Committee has 14 legislative days to make a decision. If no decision is made the resolution is brought to the floor of the House for a vote.

Now we wait. If nothing else, it's a start at dismantling the Trump regime.
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