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Post by Katiedot on Sun 22 May 2011, 04:47

Just came across this amusing blog about who was the best ever Batman (note: it wasn't George). Thought this might amuse everyone.

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Clooney, Clooney, Clooney. Legend. Sucked as Batman, but Clooney is a legend. He gets the ladies. Lots of ladies. He is an Adonis. Chicks dig him and guys want to be him. Look at him in this picture with his batnipples all erect asking to be tweaked. He is thinking to himself “This suit is going to get me laid!!” But as Batman, George, you were terrible. A terrible burden on my eyes and ears. Its not your fault. Warner Bros were milking the franchise and squeezing every last drop out of Batmans erect tit.
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Post by lolo"layla" on Sun 22 May 2011, 14:57

he was one of the best batmen ever happend u can count him best batman in my book and bruce wayne too.

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Post by melbert on Sun 22 May 2011, 18:31

Personally, the only reason I watched Batman and Robin was because of George. I have not seen ANY of the other Batmans. However, I did watch the TV shows (sad, really sad, but funny). So, in saying that, I cannot compare his performance with any of the other Batmans. BUT, I enjoyed his performance, serious, funny, action(?). I don't like Uma, but I did enjoy the film. How many of the critics just followed others comments rather than go out on a limb and say they really enjoyed it?
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Post by lolo"layla" on Sun 22 May 2011, 23:26

melbert nice avatar , what do u think he feels in that pic????

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Post by melbert on Mon 23 May 2011, 04:07

Don't know Lolo. Definitely surprised at something...
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Post by lolo"layla" on Wed 25 May 2011, 06:50

he is a lucky guy but a fool sometimes .

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Post by Katiedot on Sat 15 Oct 2011, 05:07

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Joel Schumacher Owns Batman Mistakes, Wanted a Darker Take

Thursday, October 13th, 2011

by Adam RosenbergComics, Movies

Joel Schumacher made two Batman movies, and while one (such as myself) could argue that Batman Forever is a fun outing, it’s pretty much universally agreed that the George Clooney-starring Batman & Robin is not. Schumacher admitted during a recent interview with IFC.com that he made a miscalculation in taking on the projects.

“I broke a rule of mine, which is never to do a sequel of anything,” he said of his second Batman flick. “I’m responsible for everything. I said, ‘yes’ and I took it on. It’s not my favorite movie I’ve ever made, but I’m proud of my cast and I’m proud of all the artists who worked on it. I take full responsibility for Batman & Robin.”

Interestingly, Schumacher also said that his original plan for the Forever follow-up would have been a much darker take than the three previous films in the series. “I think I’m the most envious of Chris Nolan because he got to do The Dark Knight — and that’s the one I begged to do as my second Batman film,” he said.

“I wanted to do a whole other thing, because we had kind of re-invented franchise with Val as Batman and it was a very young, sexy, and much less expensive movie. We brought in Robin and I wanted to make The Dark Knight desperately, but the studio didn’t want that and it’s their money and they’re my bosses.”
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Post by Katiedot on Sat 15 Oct 2011, 17:14

This reminds of something funny I saw on twitter the other day: "It's true that Val Kilmer was the best Batman, but George Clooney was the best Bruce Wayne".
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Post by melbert on Sat 15 Oct 2011, 17:19

I never saw any of the other Batman movies, but without a doubt George was a WONDERFUL Bruce Wayne - IMHO!
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Post by Cinderella on Sat 15 Oct 2011, 19:19

Yes... George would, of course, be the best Bruce Wayne!
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Post by Dexterdidit on Sun 16 Oct 2011, 00:03

I thought so too. It was the only Batman I saw as well and he made a great Bruce Wayne. Anything to see George in a tux. I am with you Melbert I only ever saw the campy show and I loved it one thing it certainly did was give you a good laugh. It also had some great evil characters the penquin and catwoman were both really good for their time.
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Post by it's me on Sun 16 Oct 2011, 09:23

yep! without a doubt George was a WONDERFUL Bruce Wayne !!! lip smack
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Post by Cinderella on Sun 16 Oct 2011, 13:08

Could have done without the nipples on the suit, though... Neutral
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Post by Katiedot on Thu 08 Dec 2011, 12:09

All these years later, and he's STILL getting stick for this:

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The 4 Worst Performances By Good Actors In Movies

While every great actor occasionally stoops to a new low in the pursuit of a hefty paycheck, these actors have provided the world with what have to be some of the all-time worst performances by good actors in movies. From multiple award winning actors like Anthony Hopkins pulling a Michael Jackson to legendary American badasses like John Wayne attempting to play Asian emperors, these performances are so bad that they’ve actually bankrupted studios while also incurring the scorn of fanboys everywhere.

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George Clooney as Bruce Wayne/Batman in “Batman & Robin” No superhero movies have been more loathed than the Joel Schumacher helmed “Batman Forever” and “Batman & Robin.” While any actor from these films could make this list, including Tommy Lee Jones as Two Face or Jim Carrey as the Riddler, George Clooney delivered hands down one of the worst performances by good actors in movies. Ever. From his nippled batsuit to the charming, folksy monologues he delivered even in the face of danger, Clooney’s cheerful, aw-shucks approach to the otherwise brooding, emotionally troubled Caped Crusader takes the cake when it comes to impossibly bad acting. Ironically, Clooney is the only actor to come out of the experience with his career intact and otherwise unscathed, while the campy shitbag of a film proved to be the last straw for comic book fans and nerds alike, all of whom swiftly moved hackneyed “filmmaker” Joel Shumacher to the top of their hit lists.
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Post by melbert on Fri 09 Dec 2011, 02:13

Aw c'mon, it wasn't THAT bad...
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Post by Katiedot on Fri 09 Dec 2011, 05:15

I think I went to see it when it was released in cinemas (only because my boyfriend at the time wanted to go - I hated ALL of the Batman movies) so I only saw this again recently because they're showing it on HBO.

Have no memory whatsoever of the film but seeing it again still makes me think it wasn't that good. Some of the lines really make me cringe. It isn't awful, but it's not great but then, if you ask me, the first three Batmans were also junk.
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Post by melbert on Sat 10 Dec 2011, 23:19

I haven't seen ANY of the other Batman movies. Not in to them. I'm not saying that the storyline or even the acting was good. But, something about George in the Batsuit and even as Bruce Wayne got my blood pumping. But, what can I say, I'm EASY!!!
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Post by Cinderella on Tue 13 Dec 2011, 01:18

If I ever meet George... I'm going to ask him to wear the suit for me one night... lol!
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Post by Katiedot on Fri 20 Jan 2012, 11:51

One aspect of George always mentioning how bad Batman was is that he's convinced everyone that it's bad.

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Superman IV : The Quest for Peace VS Batman & Robin

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Here are two duds with a fair bit in common. Both feature brawny heroes born of comics’ Golden Age (Batman debuted in 1939, Supes a year earlier), both were released fourth in their prospective series, and both prompted a certain amount of head-shaking from their leading men (as recounted on the site Wikipedia, pre-Sopa). “I think we might have killed the franchise,” Batman and Robin‘s George Clooney opined. Actor Christopher Reeve wasn’t any more forgiving of his own flop. “The less said about Superman IV, the better,” he said. It seems that they, like the legions of fans worldwide, knew something that certain others didn’t. When it comes to these heroes, there’s a legacy to be upheld.

Director Joel Schumacher (Falling Down, Tigerland) didn’t seem interested. His Batman and Robin is a live-action deliriant, an exaggerated attempt to re-create the cartoonish camp of the 1960s TV series. All traces of filmmaker Tim Burton’s funereal contributions to the franchise have been entirely bled out. Bat-nipples and enhanced cod-pieces have been added in.

The movie continues the trend begun in Burton’s Batman Returns of using multiple villains, this time with three: Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy and the monstrous Bane. But with Robin (Chris O’Donnell) returning and the introduction of a new hero in Batgirl (Alicia Silverstone), perhaps it’s only fair. Here’s a synopsis. German scientist Dr. Victor Fries (Arnold Schwarzenegger) turns sub-zero criminal after a laboratory accident effectively chills his body temperature to nil. Aided by an assortment of ice-themed technologies and a frustrating collection of one-liners (all of Schumacher’s Batman foils have comedic skills), he plots to freeze Gotham for a tidy ransom. Poison Ivy (Uma Thurman) is only too glad to help. With a poisonous kiss and the power to seduce any man, she makes plans for a new world, ruled by toxic plants.

To be fair, the decision (by Schumacher, by Warner Brothers, or whoever) to lighten the tone of the series wasn’t completely out of nowhere. Camp is as much a part of Batman’s history as grit, as the somber atmosphere audiences now enjoy in Christopher Nolan’s Batmans. Revisit the antics of the popular television series for the proof. Batman surfed. Batman danced. Look back to the comics of the 1940s and 50s. Mogo the Bat-ape? Yes. Bat-van Winkle? You betcha. In one early issue of Detective Comics, Batman donned different colored costumes to distract the public from Dick Grayson/Robin’s broken arm, to protect his identity. I wonder what happens when he gets a cold-sore? The better question though is whether filmgoers are in the mood for this style of Batman today. I think we know.

In more serious hands, Freeze and Ivy could have been better exploited as complicated villains. Like Bruce Wayne/Batman, both are characters driven by obsession, Freeze in trying to cure his wife of a deadly disease and Ivy in her fight to protect the natural world. But this is not a movie that cares to flesh out its villains or challenge Wayne/Batman intellectually or psychologically (the most intriguing aspects of the character). It lives for the Ka-pow! Aside from two undeveloped sub-plots dealing with Alfred’s health and Robin’s suitability as a side-kick, the world’s greatest detective can put his brain in a jar. As for the leads, Clooney and Schwarzenegger are equally unwatchable, but what else could they do? Their performances suit just the type of film that Schumacher was trying to make.

Christopher Reeve and the talents behind Superman IV had a very different kind of problem. Money. After the chagrin that was Superman III, producers Alexander and Ilya Salkind sold the rights to the series to Cannon Films, best known for low-budget/high bodycount productions the likes of Cobra and Missing in Action. The result was a film of high hopes on half the initial budget. For a story that requires a certain amount of resources to create its illusion (even of Superman and Lois’ romance, as when they fly), the disappointment is pervasive. “You can tell from the very first credit…that something is terribly wrong in Metropolis,” says co-screenwriter Mark Rosenthal. His DVD commentary gives an insider’s look at the box-office bomb.

The story will lack the currency today that it had in the mid-80s. As the world’s superpowers stockpile nuclear arms beyond rational levels, Superman (Reeve) finds himself at a moral crossroads. Should he stand on the sidelines of human destiny as instructed by his Kryptonian elders, or take proactive measures for the sake of his new home? During a visit to a very un-United Nations (Metropolis never looked so anemic) he makes his intentions clear, then begins snatching the world’s nuclear missiles out of space (Wouldn’t they be stored underground?). Lex Luthor (Gene Hackman) meanwhile has concocted his own personal nuclear threat in the form of Nuclear Man (Mark Pillow), a fashion faux-pas with radioactive fingernails and enough coiffure to front a hair-metal band. To the man, woman or child responsible for this character, report to the Phantom Zone immediately. Financial issues aside, Nuclear Man is the film’s biggest setback and a slight to anyone who knows a fundamental tenet of the genre: the hero is only as good as the villain.

Which brings us to more important matters on Vs., not which film’s baddie looks most like a hairdresser in a Crunchie bar wrapper, but which of them “wins.” It’s a difficult choice this week, and one that requires a litmus. The question, “Which film entertained you most?” is out. Both capers left me feeling betrayed in their own special ways, Batman and Robin for its nauseous use of primary colors and Schwarzenegger’s endless punning, Superman IV for its B-movie effects and buffont villainry. No, the only question appropriate enough to decide a victor must tie itself to a comment made in the opening paragraph, concerning a hero and his or her legacy. “Which film betrays theirs the least?”

I think we’ve been spoiled by the films that began each franchise. Batman (1989) was dark, delicious fun that shocked the wider public into thinking about the crusader in a new way. Finally, the Dark Knight had his brains and balls. Richard Donner’s Superman (1978) made us believe that a man could fly while giving us permission to root for a do-gooder in tights without chuckling. Sadly, there’s more to guffaw at for the two movies concerned in this review, but Kal-el has an edge. Mark Rosenthal: “…even though everyone knew terrible things had been done to this, Superman IV was done with such good intentions, led by Chris Reeve and everyone associated with it…” I tend to agree.

If Superman IV is bad, which it is, it wasn’t for lack of purpose. I like to play a game of sorts after watching a low-budget blunder. Imagine the film again with the bank-roll needed to properly realize the vision. Does it work now? In the end, Superman IV suffers the same fate as Batman and Robin of course – its shortcomings kill it for the more serious fans, or at least the fans who prefer it to be taken seriously. But the film has merits. The producers scored a coup in getting all the principals to return. Reeve, Margot Kidder (Lois Lane), Hackman, Jackie Cooper (Perry White) and Marc McClure (Jimmy Olsen) were all pitch perfect in the original. They’re still a pleasure to watch this time around, just slightly out of their element. At times it’s as if they wandered onto the wrong set.

And the “winner” is: Superman IV
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Post by it's me on Fri 20 Jan 2012, 13:48

ah... Poison Ivy
sweet memories....
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Post by Lakin460 on Sat 26 May 2012, 22:33

So desparate for a Clooney fix I'm actually watching Batman on TV!! The last time I saw this flick,it had just been released in theaters! Good grief, it's so cornball it's not funny and he's so baaaad in this and he looks so uncomfortable in that bat suit!
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Post by cindigirl on Sat 26 May 2012, 23:11

Hi Lakin, you're right, that movie was horrendous. George admits he was beyond uncomfortable in that bat suit. In fact, he shared in an interview the suit was so heavy and uncomfortable he had to be propped up and if Batman himself wore that suit everyone would be dead. LOL
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Post by cindigirl on Mon 28 May 2012, 18:13

Video - George in his anatomically correct bat suit.



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Post by Lakin460 on Mon 28 May 2012, 18:16

I liked that interview - Inside the Actors Studio. He can be so funny!
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Batman & Robin

Post by Seth Gecko on Tue 26 Jun 2012, 12:35

I finally gave in and bought B&R for the collection. I'd forgotten how much GC shook his head when he talked back then, even in the Batman cowl.
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Post by Joanna on Tue 26 Jun 2012, 13:20

So funny what he said about the Batman suit on Actors Studio.
Sounds like it was a nightmare...how ever did he take a pee ?
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Post by it's me on Tue 26 Jun 2012, 13:53

he did
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Post by fluffy on Tue 26 Jun 2012, 14:04

Seth, he still does!!!! If you look when Gee's about to say something, he pauses, smiles, looks like he's releasing trapped wind!, smiles again then manages to say it!!! Really cute, but very predictable. He does this in nearly all him films where it requires "affection/emotion". The more hardy violent films, he just goes for it. So would it be fair to say that George has a hard time as an actor then delivering emotional lines to female actress's?? Check it out! Discuss!!
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Post by Cinderella on Tue 26 Jun 2012, 14:19

I believe to be a great method actor one has to live through a lot of experiences to pull from. So are you saying that our George can pull from painful experiences but has trouble pulling from loving experiences? Just wondering?
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Post by Joanna on Tue 26 Jun 2012, 15:45

Nick joked about George's acting with a smile saying...
"He's method you know".... meaning "not" Coolio
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Post by Katiedot on Tue 26 Jun 2012, 20:22

I just moved this conversation to the existing Batman thread
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Post by cindigirl on Tue 26 Jun 2012, 20:27

Joanna wrote:Nick joked about George's acting with a smile saying...
"He's method you know".... meaning "not" Coolio

Joanna, Nick also said that about his grandson Nicky when he was visiting George during Ides of March. Nicky had a stand-in scene waving a banner.
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Post by Joanna on Wed 27 Jun 2012, 01:01

Maybe that's what I was remembering, but CRS got in first ! LOL

Then again it could be a Clooney family saying ?
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Post by Lakin460 on Wed 27 Jun 2012, 01:30

JoJo - love your avatar! Yummy!
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Post by silly girl on Sat 09 Mar 2013, 02:46

Warner Bros. Finds Someone to Take George Clooney's 'Batman' Mask

By Tim Kenneally | The Wrap – 3 hours ago


The good news for the Smithsonian? It's getting some Batman-related memorabilia.
The bad news? It's not exactly the cream of the crop.
Warner Bros. donated more than 30 items of movie memorabilia to the Smithsonian's National Museum of American History on Friday.
Among the items: The mask and cowl that George Clooney wore in the 1997 film "Batman & Robin," which drew a chilly critical reception worthy of the film's villain, Mr. Freeze.
Also donated: The suit worn by Halle Berry in "Catwoman," a film that was also poorly received, despite the fact that it featured Halle Berry wearing the costume that she wore in "Catwoman."

Warner Bros. also tossed in the suit that Christopher Reeve wore in "Superman III." (You know, the one with Richard Pryor?)
Among the other items that Warner Bros. donated were the stop-action puppets used in Tim Burton's "Corpse Bride" and the suit worn by Paul Newman in "The Helen Morgan Story," which was apparently a movie of some sort at one point.
"At the National Museum of American History we seek to tell a inclusive American story. Films are an integral part of this culture and of our daily lives, shaping how we perceive ourselves as Americans. The legacy of Warner Bros. is an important part of American history and these objects help us to tell that story," museum director John Gray said, despite all of the above.

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Post by Katiedot on Sat 09 Mar 2013, 09:48

Aww, so George doesn't have his own batman mask? Well that's another fantasy on the scrap heap, then. Sad
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Post by melbert on Sat 09 Mar 2013, 10:33

Somehow I think that he DOES have at least one full bat suit, including cod piece and nipples, hidden in his closet.
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Post by Katiedot on Sat 09 Mar 2013, 15:15

Oh yay! THANK YOU Melbert for keeping the dream alive!

Uhh, maybe I should just stop talking now.
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Post by melbert on Sat 09 Mar 2013, 15:28

Now we KNOW the real you Katie!!
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