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Post by PigPen on Fri Jan 30 2015, 19:05

As usual, I'm sooooooooooooooo confused (what else is new).  What court system would allow that type of media chaos in a court room?  I realize it was before they got down to business, but what judge would allow a paparazzi feeding frenzy.  Was it pre-arranged? 

Side note regarding "what are you wearing" question.  For me, it comes across as a quip from the person asking the question- a bit of a joke, being that she was asked the question at the GGs.

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Post by PigPen on Fri Jan 30 2015, 19:11

Way2Old4Dis wrote:I know nothing of Amal's character. I just assume that if George Clooney loves her, she must be all that and a bag of chips. I'm simply making the observation that everyone else seemed to be in the same spot as she was, with the same cadre of cameras, and don't seem to be smiling right at them.

And I know that none of the photographers were yelling the QC's name to get his attention, so no need to bother with that argument. You know what I mean.
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Post by party animal - not! on Fri Jan 30 2015, 19:31

Pigpen, it's a public court so they can't stop anyone walking in - security aside, it's the nature of the place, inclusivity, European Court of human rights and all that........

And you're right, it was a quick-witted quip..and she probably knows the Telegraph journalist concerned since he's attached to the Court.......

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Post by Guest on Fri Jan 30 2015, 19:41

PigPen wrote:As usual, I'm sooooooooooooooo confused (what else is new).  What court system would allow that type of media chaos in a court room?  I realize it was before they got down to business, but what judge would allow a paparazzi feeding frenzy.  Was it pre-arranged? 

Side note regarding "what are you wearing" question.  For me, it comes across as a quip from the person asking the question- a bit of a joke, being that she was asked the question at the GGs.
I took it totally as a tongue-in-cheek quip too. With a nod and a wink. That's how we do things this side of the pond.

But, there is nevertheless a confusing dichotomy here. Her very public and to some degree staged wedding invited the 'celebrity' media in and her 'statement' appearance at the GGs compounded that invitation, and if she's now feeling that her professional life is being trivialised or compromised, then she needs to take a step back and figure out a sensible way to live in both those worlds.

Her work is much more important and significant than her celebrity status so she can close the celebrity thing down. If that's what she wants to do.

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Post by party animal - not! on Fri Jan 30 2015, 19:57

Good article in The Independent today:

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Amal Clooney: Making headlines for all the right reasons

There is no doubting George Clooney’s eye for beautiful women, but until October 2013 his relationships followed a certain pattern.

Actress; cocktail waitress; waitress and reality show contender; underwear model and actress; professional wrestler – each abandoned in turn, the gossips tell us, when commitment raised its ugly head. As recently as September 2013, the actor told GQ magazine in answer to a question about marriage: “I haven’t had aspirations in that way, ever. I was married in 1989. I wasn’t very good at it.”
And now here he is, hitched – to another great beauty, to be sure, but a woman from a totally different place, in every sense, than her predecessors.
No less in the public eye than her husband, this week Mrs Amal Clooney was in the headlines on her own account, standing in a courtroom at the International Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg before an international bench of judges, wearing black lawyer’s robes and “falling bands”, the two plain linen rectangles that cover the shirt collar.
The subject was one of vast importance: the mass murder of some 1.5 million Armenians during the First World War – long regarded as the first genocide of the 20th century, but which her antagonist in the case, Dogu Perincek, chairman of the Turkish Workers’ Party, claims was nothing of the sort.
The court was packed with far more journalists than the question at issue would normally draw, many of them from organisations whose interest in matters Turkish and Armenian is marginal at best. Geoffrey Robertson, the veteran human rights barrister and Clooney’s colleague in the Doughty Street Chambers where they both work, twisted on his chair at her side. But Amal Clooney, speaking in the English vowels chiselled at St Hugh’s College, Oxford, betrayed no nerves. She knew very well what she was about.

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The Armenians were killed, she told the court, “with specific genocidal intent”. There are photographs of the River Euphrates filled with blood. “A campaign of racial extermination was in progress against the Armenians,” she insisted. Its object was “the total obliteration of Armenians”. She quoted a contemporary Turkish leader’s statement that there was “no room for Christians” in Turkey.
The court was hushed. God knows what some hacks were making of it. The world of Vegas cocktail waitresses and underwear models and curvaceous young women wrestling in bikinis seemed a very long way away. George Clooney had fallen head over heels for what one reporter called “the allure of the brainiac”.
The daughter of a prominent and intellectual Lebanese family, her father a Druze, Amal Alamuddin was brought to London aged three with her siblings, fleeing her homeland’s civil war. The family was well off: a government minister and the founder of Lebanon’s airline were among their relatives, and they settled in a comfortable home in Gerrards Cross, Buckinghamshire.
Alamuddin – who turns 37 next week – shone at Dr Challoner’s High School in the same county, winning an exhibition to St Hugh’s, the formerly women-only college which was also alma mater of Aung San Suu Kyi. Gaining a 2.1, she went on to take a master’s degree at New York University. While there she received the Jack J Katz Memorial Award for excellence in entertainment law – probably the first time that her world and that of the playboy film star, twice declared “sexiest man alive” by the US’s People magazine, came within shouting distance of each other.
Alamuddin was already clear that her future lay in international law, and graduation was followed by stints with the International Court of Justice and the special UN tribunals for Lebanon and former Yugoslavia. She was not only very gifted but also a workaholic of huge ambition. Over the following years she was involved in some of the highest profile international cases on the planet, including those of Yulia Tymoshenko, Muammar Gaddafi’s former intelligence chief Abdallah al-Senussi, and WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange.
When she returned to London in 2010 and knocked on the door of Doughty Street Chambers, there was no doubting that she was a prize: not only a superb lawyer, but also one with unusually strong motivation. Geoffrey Robertson said that she showed strong commitment to “the basic idea that everyone is entitled to a basic level of dignity… We offered her an exceptional pupillage, which we do for exceptional people, and she indeed was exceptional.”
Nor was it surprising – to those familiar with the sort of dedication that lawyering at this level requires – that Alamuddin had not yet married or even, leaving aside vague suggestions of close friendship with Eric Schmidt, the chairman of Google, paired up with a serious boyfriend. As Robertson points out, human rights law is not intrinsically glamorous work – “cramped over a desk with thousands of pages of case law to get through in an evening”.

So it was perhaps inevitable that it was Clooney, not long after his split with the professional wrestler Stacy Keibler in September 2013, who made all the running. Their paths had crossed because of Alamuddin’s work with Kofi Annan and Clooney’s long-standing commitment to the plight of Darfur. He love-bombed her with emails, proposing that the hottest actor and the hottest human rights lawyer in the world might find something in common, and after keeping him waiting for a reply for a considerable time, she agreed to meet. They clicked. Beady-eyed Clooney-watchers pinpoint the crucial time as December 2013: George went off on a rant to the effect that Twitter was “just stupid and that anyone who was famous and had a Twitter account was a moron” – and within 24 hours, Alamuddin’s small band of followers found themselves bereft of her tweets when she closed down her own Twitter account.
It was the beginning of her induction into a world of celebrity very different from anything she had previously known. Despite media whinges about the cost and extravagance of their Venice wedding last September, and forensic attention by fashion correspondents to her wardrobe, it is a world they have to date negotiated with considerable skill and discretion: very often, as this week, in the public eye, but never putting their foot in it.
It’s been said of Clooney that his girlfriends always enter his world, but he never enters theirs. But with his wife, these settled traits are bound to change. He has deferred to Alamuddin’s desire to continue her work – hence their £10m conjugal home on a four-acre island in Sonning, Berkshire, a fast car ride away from the London courts. In addition, can we now expect some attempt at synergy between their two careers?
George’s commitment to human rights has shone through in film after film: conversations around the breakfast table are likely to be earnest. The legendary leader of Lebanon’s Druze community, Walid Jumblatt, a close friend of the couple, has suggested that Clooney might make a film about the embattled Druze minority, based on The Last of the Mohicans, “and with me as Geronimo”. Stranger things have happened, this marriage among them.

A life in Brief


Born: 3 February 1978, Beirut, Lebanon.
Family: Father is businessman Ramzi Alamuddin and her mother, Bariaa, a journalist. Married to George Clooney.
Education: Dr Challoner’s High School, Bucks. BA in jurisprudence from St Hugh’s College, Oxford. Master of Laws from New York University School of Law.
Career: Worked for a New York law firm before working on UN tribunals for Lebanon and Yugoslavia. Barrister at Doughty Street Chambers, London, since 2010.


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Post by party animal - not! on Fri Jan 30 2015, 20:02

Actually, I think they were impeccable at the Globes. Hoo-ha yes, but they managed to embrace it and use it to deliver their own message really well.......

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Post by Nicky80 on Fri Jan 30 2015, 20:19

The World’s Obsession With Amal Isn’t About Her Accomplishments

They're real, but the gushing isn't






Amal Clooney is at it again— doing something celebrities don’t usually do, and looking like a movie star while doing it.

This time, she’s arguing in the European Court of Human Rights against a Turkish politician who denied the existence of an Armenian genocide 100 years ago in which more than 1.5 million people were brutally murdered. That’s, like, sooo impressive… but who is she wearing?



When a reporter from The Telegraph asked her, she cheekily replied “Ede and Ravenscroft,” the legal robes maker that has been selling drab back judge costumes since 1689, the year Benjamin Franklin’s parents met.

Once she did that, the focus shifted from the history of the Armenian genocide to Amal’s sense of humor and fashion choices. The global reaction to her comments was proof that jig is up: it’s stop pretending you care about what Amal Clooney is doing, when you really just care about how she looks while doing it.

The public obsession with Amal Clooney has been outwardly focused on her professional accomplishments, and with good reason. She’s represented high-profile clients like Julian Assange and former Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko, fought for the Elgin Marbles to be returned to Greece, and worked to free three Al-Jazeera journalists imprisoned in Egypt. She’s done more in the last ten years than many lawyers do over their entire career.
It sounds great, and it is. But the gushing adoration in the media about her work is false appreciation that crumples under scrutiny. How many other human rights lawyers inspire anything close to Amal-mania? Look at Samira al-Nuaimy, the Iraqi human rights lawyer who was executed by ISIS last year. If the tabloid-buying American public so obsessed with human rights, why wasn’t she on the cover of InTouch?

Let’s face it: no matter how real Amal’s accomplishments are, the breathless celebration of her legal triumphs is just a thinly veiled infatuation with how she looks.

When placed in the glare of celebrity, Clooney’s binders of legal documents and folders of case material become accessories to her shiny hair and perfect manicure, instead of the other way around. What’s worse, there’s something grotesque about using serious work on behalf of genocide victims as a pretense for a fixation on her looks, her clothes, and her marriage to one of the world’s most eligible actors.
Amal’s beauty is the unspoken end of every sentence about her legal career, the sub-head to every headline about her human rights work. Even if the coverage is ostensibly focused on Turkish politics, or the Elgin marbles, or sexual violence in conflict zones, the substance get inevitably lost in the subliminal hum over what Amal’s wearing, how Amal’s hair looks, and the fact that Amal is married to George Clooney. It even happens when there’s nothing to report—the Armenian genocide case was overshadowed by Amal’s non-outfit (she was wearing essentially the same thing as all the other lawyers in the room).

It’s also a weird over-correction to the common sexist problem of focusing on women’s looks over their careers. Instead of focusing on the looks of an accomplished woman (like Kirsten Gillibrand), the media is loudly proclaiming how not-sexist they are by obsessively trumpeting Amal’s professional accomplishments, then mentioning her beauty as a super-conspicuous after-thought.
But discussing Amal Clooney’s human rights work in the same tone as Kim Kardashian’s workouts or Jennifer Lawrence’s pizza cravings isn’t just awkward— it’s bizarre. Imagine if other human rights activists were treated the same way. Next it’ll be “Watch Ban Ki-Moon Go to the Gym Without Makeup” or “Malala’s Celebrity Crush: REVEALED!”

Some celebrities use their existing fame to shine a light on problems in the world, like Amal’s husband’s best friend’s wife Angelina Jolie, who recently wrote an op-ed in the New York Times demanding improved conditions in Syrian refugee camps. But that’s a different story, because Jolie came to activism after she got famous. She’s getting her picture taken in refugee camps and giving impassioned speeches at the U.N. precisely to direct those who are interested in her hair and clothes towards something more important.
But Amal’s just doing her job. Her work isn’t celebrity activism or a publicity stunt. Yet when it’s put in the context of celebrity fodder, Amal Clooney’s work on behalf of marginalized people gets reduced to just another thing a woman does while being beautiful.
So stop gushing. Stop with the headlines that trumpet Amal as a goddess for doing her job. Stop with the shock and awe that someone so beautiful could be so smart as well. Just let Amal keep doing her thing.

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Post by Guest on Fri Jan 30 2015, 20:19

I like Amal and respect the work she does but this is a desperately sycophantic article and horribly dismissive of Clooney's exes, the ones, BTW, that he was happy to f*ck and love and live with, and showcase when he needed them for PR.  And I remember you in particular defending Stacey Kiebler on here and going out of your way to turn negatives into positives and talking about their relationship as if you were living with them! 

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Post by party animal - not! on Fri Jan 30 2015, 20:42

Yep, you're right. I thought they really had great chemistry - even tho I wasn't sitting in the laundry basket! - and I thought the fact that she had her own life was something he loved. 

Maybe where it unravelled a bit - who knows? -  was her telling comment on being the least political person she knew or words to that effect, and maybe they just didn't have that much in common in the end.......

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Post by Donnamarie on Fri Jan 30 2015, 21:17

Please keep in mind it is the media who is being dismissive of George's exes. Not George. He never says a word about his past relationships. That's between him and the women he was involved with.

For George to declare to Amal in public (at the GGs) that he found real love for the first time with her is touching and revealing. He doesn't have a responsibility to qualify his feelings to the other women he was involved with over the years. That's his business, not ours.

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Post by Silje on Fri Jan 30 2015, 22:12

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Celebdirtylaundry  brings up an interesting point. Amal is advocating against freedom of speech in this case. In my opinion even this Turkish nutjob should be allowed to say what he wants. Denying genocide shouldn't be a crime in my opinion. 

And this is only a few weeks after the Je Suis Charlie button.


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George Clooney Divorce: Amal Alamuddin Advocates Against Free Speech In Armenian Genocide Case – Husband Disgusted?

Divorce rumors about George Clooney and Amal Alamuddin have naturally hit the interweb but could they be substantive? Lately stories about marriage disagreements over starting a family and having a baby have led the divorce talk but might that change to political disagreements between George Clooney and his lovely wife Amal Alamuddin? Looks like Amal Alamuddin’s job doesn’t consist solely of her going to George Clooney’s events in Hollywood and looking like a showpiece wife. According to reports, Amal Alamuddin is appearing in European Court of Human Rights top human rights court to ‘argue against a man convicted for denying the 1915 Armenian genocide.’ Yes, Amal Alamuddin is trying to repress freedom of speech, something we pride ourselves upon in America – and what does her liberal husband George Clooney think of this?
Dogu Perincek had argued that his right to free speech was utterly violated when he denied the genocide and was convicted by Swiss courts. And for those who don’t know, the Armenian genocide was caused by almost 1.5 million Armenians being killed by Ottoman Turks during World War I. Although there is some debate on the actual death toll, most historians classify the event as a genocide. However, Turkey claims that the death toll isn’t accurate and was inflated to make it appear as though there was genocide, when in reality they feel that the deaths were all a result of the civil war.
Basically, this man denied that there was a genocide in 2005, and was then convicted by Swiss courts. However, he fought back and won in the European Court of Human Rights when he argued that his freedom of speech is being denied. But alas, there is now an appeal – led by Amal Alamuddin – to argue against Dogu Perincek, who they feel deserves to be held responsible for his ‘crime’. As in, the crime of saying what he feels? Whatever people believe, there is a fundamental right to free speech in our country, isn’t there?
People deny the Holocaust every day in public and in print but we don’t charge them with crimes for doing so, do we? It’s not like this guy is going around and causing unrest or fomenting violence, but just expressing his opinion. While I don’t agree with his opinion, since there definitely was an Armenian genocide, it’s still just that – his opinion. As Voltaire said, “I do not agree with what you have to say, but I’ll defend to the death your right to say it.” And here we have George Clooney’s wife arguing against Perincek for expressing his opinion? For all the praise Amal Alamuddin gets, it’s things like this – and representing dictators and tycoons – that  raise eyebrows. Will Amal’s controversial politics and activities as a lawyer eventually lead to her being ostracized by Hollywood and cause a George Clooney divorce?


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Post by Hebe on Sat Jan 31 2015, 02:03

In her speech Amal makes it clear that they are not trying to stifle free speech but want the truth of the matter to prevail. She states that there is overwhelming evidence that it was genocide and that the Armenians want this to be accepted as the truth as a tribute to the million plus Armenians who died.

The Celebrity Dirty Laundry article you cite, Silje, is very stilted in my opinion and does not give the Armenian argument. It also seems to have the aim of suggesting disagreement and disharmony between George and Amal. I think they are trying to stir things up.

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Post by Silje on Sat Jan 31 2015, 02:29

Hebe wrote:In her speech Amal makes it clear that they are not trying to stifle free speech but want the truth of the matter to prevail. She states that there is overwhelming evidence that it was genocide and that the Armenians want this to be accepted as the truth as a tribute to the million plus Armenians who died.

The Celebrity Dirty Laundry article you cite, Silje, is very stilted in my opinion and does not give the Armenian argument. It also seems to have the aim of suggesting disagreement and disharmony between George and Amal. I think they are trying to stir things up.

Of course Celebritydirtylaundry is trying to stir things up concerning the marriage, they always do. But this is a trial about freedom of speech. I think it is a shame that Turkey never admitted  to the Armenian  genocide. But the Turkish guy should still be allowed to deny the Genocide. If he loses this case then freedom of speech loses too.

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Post by it's me on Sat Jan 31 2015, 05:52

wait a moment
freedom of speech is about different "visions"
different ideas

not about wanting ppl to believe something untrue you told them

or in case
denying something that was a constant murdering



it's not the possibility to say
in front of evidence
"no 
My ppl didn't harm them"

I see it telling lies
not freedom of speech



the important thing is:
this genocidi was already proven?

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Post by lelacorb on Sat Jan 31 2015, 09:36

They seem to be overstating the importance of this case.

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Post by it's me on Sat Jan 31 2015, 12:46

anyway a good occasion to keep things under light

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Post by party animal - not! on Sun Feb 01 2015, 14:24

Breaking news apparently:

Egypt deporting Australian Al-jazeera journalist Peter Greste:

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Egypt 'freeing and deporting reporter Peter Greste'

Jailed al-Jazeera journalist Peter Greste is being deported from Egypt, the state news agency and police say.

The Australian ex-BBC correspondent was arrested in December 2013 and imprisoned last June on charges including spreading false news.

There is no word on the two al-Jazeera men who were jailed with him, Mohamed Fahmy and Baher Mohamed.

All of the defendants denied the charges against them and have said their trial was a sham.

They were accused of collaborating with the banned Muslim Brotherhood after the overthrow of President Mohammed Morsi by the military in 2013.

The three men said they were simply reporting the news.

Egypt's top court had in January ordered a retrial of the three men.

But an Egyptian official told Agence France-Presse news agency on Sunday: "There is a presidential decision to deport Peter Greste to Australia."

Al-Jazeera has demanded the release of its journalists ever since they were arrested.

Mr Fahmy holds Egyptian and Canadian citizenship and is the Egyptian-Canadian bureau chief.

Mr Mohamed, a producer, is an Egyptian national.


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Post by Hebe on Sun Feb 01 2015, 14:40

That's good news. Hopefully there will be a favourable outcome for Fahmy and Mohamed too.

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Post by Donnamarie on Sun Feb 01 2015, 14:42

Thanks PAN for this latest news. This has got to be good news for Fahmy. I have to believe he will soon be the next to be deported. I don't know what to think of Mohamed's fate since he is an Egyptian national. Keeping fingers crossed for both to be released since none of them should have been accused and convicted in the first place.

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Post by Guest on Sun Feb 01 2015, 17:15

Donnamarie wrote:Please keep in mind it is the media who is being dismissive of George's exes.  Not George.  He never says a word about his past relationships.  That's between him and the women he was involved with.  

For George to declare to Amal in public  (at the GGs) that he found real love for the first time with her is touching and revealing.  He doesn't have a responsibility to qualify his feelings to the other women he was involved with over the years.  That's his business, not ours.  
I know that, Donnamarie, I was merely pointing out that PAN described it as a good article, which surprised me considering how very enthusiastic PAN was about Stacy. That's what I took issue with. I really dislike the running down of Clooney's exes, and the general running down of one woman in order to promote another one. It's divisive, it's cheap and totally unnecessary and promoting hackjournalism that thrives on it is imo equally cheap and unnecessary.

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Post by party animal - not! on Sun Feb 01 2015, 17:40

Here is Peter Popham's website, with articles from him as foreign correspondent of The Independent, and reviews of his much-acclaimed book about Aung San Suu Kyi:

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Post by party animal - not! on Sun Feb 01 2015, 19:23

Fahmy to be released according to security sources:

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Post by Hebe on Sun Feb 01 2015, 20:00

That is excellent news.

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Post by Donnamarie on Sun Feb 01 2015, 20:29

Yes Hebe it is. I'm sure Fahmy, his family and fiancé can't wait for him to leave Egyptian soil. Good news too for Amal and the team of lawyers who worked on this case.

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Post by melbert on Sun Feb 01 2015, 21:06

And I hope that Lorne Waldman gets the credit for his release since he's the one mentioned in all the articles.

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Post by Hebe on Sun Feb 01 2015, 21:18

On the BBC news they said that the President had been asked about these men every time he had been interviewed. That would have been uncomfortable for him. So perhaps the publicity that Amal generated had helped. They also said that the relationship between the Egyptian government and al-Jazeera had improved slightly.

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Post by party animal - not! on Sun Feb 01 2015, 22:02

Do we have this from a fortnight ago?


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Post by Nicky80 on Sun Feb 01 2015, 22:06

yes it was already posted Wink

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Re: Amal Alamuddin and her work

Post by Donnamarie on Mon Feb 02 2015, 04:59

Bellalique wrote:
Donnamarie wrote:Please keep in mind it is the media who is being dismissive of George's exes.  Not George.  He never says a word about his past relationships.  That's between him and the women he was involved with.  

For George to declare to Amal in public  (at the GGs) that he found real love for the first time with her is touching and revealing.  He doesn't have a responsibility to qualify his feelings to the other women he was involved with over the years.  That's his business, not ours.  
I know that, Donnamarie, I was merely pointing out that PAN described it as a good article, which surprised me considering how very enthusiastic PAN was about Stacy. That's what I took issue with. I really dislike the running down of Clooney's exes, and the general running down of one woman in order to promote another one. It's divisive, it's cheap and totally unnecessary and promoting hackjournalism that thrives on it is imo equally cheap and unnecessary.

I don't disagree with you that the media has marginalized the women in George's past when talking about Amal. They just can't help themselves. It makes for a more interesting read. I thought The Independent article was a good one though. He factually stated the occupations of some of George's exes right at the beginning. My one exception was the way he summed up George's romantic past as "The world of Vegas cocktail waitresses and underwear models and curvaceous young women wrestling in bikinis ....". In a way belittling these women as they had nothing on Amal. But the bulk of his article was very flattering of Amal and her accomplishments.

What bothers me moreover is what was discussed in the other article that Nicky posted. Conflating Amal's beauty with her intelligence and accomplishments. It's unfortunate but time after time in articles that are posted here its the same story the media continues to write about. But the media portrays many successful women in the same way. If they are beautiful then it becomes a part of the story. Even if her beauty has absolutely nothing to do with her accomplishments. It is hack jounalism at times and some of these media outlets count on attracting readers with their flashy headlines.

I've only been posting here since August but I've been a fan of George's for quite a few years. Seen him go through many girlfriends. I have nothing really negative to say about any of them. I don't know these women. I don't want to be judgemental of any of them. Because of the professions some of his gfs were in it is very easy to be self righteous and criticize. But George cared for/loved each of them in his own way and if nothing else was very respectful to them as he should be.

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Re: Amal Alamuddin and her work

Post by party animal - not! on Mon Feb 02 2015, 14:41

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Londoner's Diary: Human rights law to get the Amal Clooney effect

Is Amal Clooney about to do for human rights what the Duchess of Cambridge did for L K Bennett and nude heels? While The Londoner can’t wait to see an Amal-inspired set of Ede & Ravenscroft-esque legal gowns hit the catwalk next season, the most exciting thing about Mrs Clooney isn’t her power as an international style icon — it’s the influence she’s wielding as a woman who cares more about war crimes than couture.

A report in 2009 showed that the popularity of shows like CSI and Silent Witness had seen applications for forensic science degrees more than double in five years. Now Birkbeck, University of London, one of the city’s top legal training grounds, tells us that the number of students applying for human rights courses has risen 75 per cent in the past year. Could this be the Amal effect?
The Londoner put in a call to another of London’s most glamorous and high-profile female barristers, Helena Kennedy, who works alongside Clooney at Doughty Street Chambers. “I am sure Amal is drawing attention to human rights law and will be encouraging young women to think of it as a career option,” says Baroness Kennedy, author of Eve Was Framed, a seminal critique on how women are treated in the British justice system.
The attraction of human rights, she argues, “is that it combines intellectual challenge and professionalism with a desire to make a difference to the world. Also, it’s great for girls and young women to see that George Clooney feels he got lucky.”


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Post by Jenn on Mon Feb 02 2015, 15:20

[size=36]Jailed Al Jazeera Journalist Asks Twitter If He Should Lose His Egyptian Citizenship To Be Set Free http://www.buzzfeed.com/shyamanthaasokan/jailed-al-jazeera-journalist-asks-twitter-if-he-should-lose?bftw&utm_term=4ldqpgc#.fepy9Gg6v[/size]

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Re: Amal Alamuddin and her work

Post by lelacorb on Mon Feb 02 2015, 17:49

George is a man who shared 53 years of his life with more or less famous actresses, models, etc. barmaids and all beautiful girls if they were intelligent or not, I do that I can not judge because it is a judgment that I can give only knowing one person but the fact is this, and I believe that belittling his ex is also belittles him because for 53 years of his life he has tried that kind of woman. That we can find the love of life to 53 years is possible but that in 53 years you change the type of woman is very strange! However those who will live, will see!

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Post by Joanna on Mon Feb 02 2015, 21:29

I think .....with apologies to JuliusCaesar......

"He came...He saw.....She conquered" and long may 
it continue.   sunny

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Post by Donnamarie on Mon Feb 02 2015, 21:42

Joanna wrote:I think .....with apologies to JuliusCaesar......

"He came...He saw.....She conquered" and long may 
it continue.   sunny

Well said Joanna.  sunny sunny sunny

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Post by party animal - not! on Tue Feb 03 2015, 16:59

Release of Mohamed Fahmy statement from Amal

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Jailed Canadian journalist looking for flights out of Egypt, colleague says

Sue Turton, a fellow Al Jazeera journalist in Egypt, said the journalist has expressed some nervousness about leaving jail after being locked away for more than year.

Jailed Canadian journalist Mohamed Fahmy is looking for the next available flight out of Egypt, a close colleague has told the Toronto Star.

Fahmy and his Al Jazeera colleagues — Australian Peter Greste and Egyptian Baher Mohamed — have been jailed in Egypt for more than a year.

Sue Turton, an Al Jazeera colleague who managed to escape Egypt before her own arrest — and sentenced to 10 years in absentia — has been communicating with Fahmy while he has been imprisoned.

“It does look like it’s really imminent. I know we’ve been saying that for the last 24 hours,” she said.

“Now they’re actually checking what flights are available and what times and via where. It’s no longer a suggestion.”

On Sunday, Greste was released and sources say Fahmy is next.

Turton said Fahmy has expressed some nervousness about leaving jail after being locked away for more than year — especially given the media attention his case has received internationally.

“He’s a little apprehensive about it,” she said. “I think he’s trying to mentally prepare himself and work out what it is he wants to say about it all.”

Turton said Fahmy intends to speak with the press once he lands in Canada.

Fahmy — who held dual citizenship with Canada and Egypt — was allowed to relinquish his Egyptian citizenship on Christmas Day. His fiancé Marwa Omara told The Canadian Press on Monday he made the decision to relinquish his Egyptian citizenship in order to facilitate his release.

Turton said he would never normally have given up his citizenship, but he did it just to get out.

“He’s quite a complex character and these parts to his background, these parts to his family, are very evident in the person that he is. So to have to turn away from Egypt . . . was a tough decision for him,” she said.

When Greste was released, his charges were not dropped, meaning that returning to Egypt could prove difficult, Turton said.

“We’re all convicted,” she said. “Will he go back if that doesn’t change? I would not think so.”

Fahmy, who has been in hospital in Egypt following an operation on his shoulder, has expressed to Turton that being separated from his fellow captive journalists — his “brothers — has left him feeling lonely.

“They’ve been through such an ordeal together, that being in hospital was a positive thing one way, but obviously being separated for them wasn’t ideal for morale,” she said.

Turton would not comment on Fahmy’s feelings toward the Canadian government’s response to his captivity, but she expressed disappointment that the government did not get involved sooner.

“They were very slow off the mark,” she said, adding that the response changed recently. “We can’t take a way from the fact that they did get very involved in the last couple of months.”

Canada’s involvement escalated after the Egyptian government ruled that foreigners accused or charged with countries could be deported, Turton said. Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird told CBC on Monday that Fahmy’s release was “imminent,” but declined to provide any more details.

Amal Clooney, who is representing Fahmy along with Canadian lawyer Lorne Waldman, said that they hope he will be released soon.

“I have been in touch with the Fahmy family and we are all delighted that Peter Greste has been released. As Mr. Fahmy’s counsel we are doing all we can to ensure the same outcome for Mr. Fahmy, who has suffered the same injustice,” Clooney said in a statement to the Star.

Fahmy and his colleagues were arrested in Dec. 2013 and later convicted of terror charges over their coverage of the violent crackdown on Islamist protests following the military overthrow of President Mohammed Morsi in July that year.

If Fahmy is released, Baher Mohamed will be the last of the trio of Al Jazeera journalists imprisoned. As an Egyptian citizen, it remains unclear if Mohamed will secure a release like his foreign colleagues, and an Egyptian appeals court has ordered a retrial.

“It’s almost like being an Egyptian is the crime. If the Canadian and the Australian can get out, what are we saying?” Turton said. “It just doesn’t feel right at all, and I think he will feel that injustice quite keenly.”

Mohamed is described as a family man with a five-month-old baby.

“All I’m pushing is that the media don’t forget that because he’s not a big international journalist, he’s a local guy,” she said. “It’s crucial that we keep the campaign and the focus on him . . . so Egypt knows we’re watching their outcome.”


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Re: Amal Alamuddin and her work

Post by lelacorb on Tue Feb 03 2015, 20:47

Joanna wrote: Penso ..... con tante scuse a JuliusCaesar ...... "E 'venuto ... Vide ..... Ha conquistato" e lungo può  che continuare.   


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Re: Amal Alamuddin and her work

Post by Donnamarie on Tue Feb 03 2015, 21:54

PAN thanks for the latest article on Fahmy.  Hopefully in the next day or so Fahmy will on a flight back to Canada.

I am concerned about Mohammed. It would be easy for the press to stop reporting his story now that he will be the only jounalist left and his is Egyptian.  Hopefully  his lawyers and Al Jeezera will keep the pressure on.  My memory is not terrific here but I have read in the last couple of months that President Sisi had pardoned a Morsi official and also released another jailed prisoner.  Cannot for the life of me remember what he was convicted of.  But maybe Sisi is feeling generous and will allow Mohammed to be released.  This case has brought so much negative attention to his government.  He may just want it to go away.  Maybe Mohammed would also have to relinquish his citizenship.

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Re: Amal Alamuddin and her work

Post by party animal - not! on Sat Feb 07 2015, 18:37

A visit to Cairo?

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Post by party animal - not! on Sat Feb 07 2015, 19:22

Video of the news story from Toronto and Cairo.

The Egyptian authorities won't much care for the level of publicity she will bring. Could hasten any release I suspect

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Post by party animal - not! on Sat Feb 07 2015, 19:27

Sorry, here it is

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Re: Amal Alamuddin and her work

Post by Alisonfan on Sun Feb 08 2015, 06:05

party animal - not! wrote:Video of the news story from Toronto and Cairo.

The Egyptian authorities won't much care for the level of publicity she will bring. Could hasten any release I suspect



Sorry to disagree, AC is not so well thought of by governments of Canada or Egypt.  After her level of publicity over "I will be arrested claim".  That is so why Canada not meet her before Cairo visit by minister.  

What is she doing? to scramble things up for AC publicity.  I think not work but sad attempt, and reflect not good on her for future.

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Re: Amal Alamuddin and her work

Post by kat19 on Sun Feb 08 2015, 08:45

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party animal - not! wrote:Video of the news story from Toronto and Cairo.

The Egyptian authorities won't much care for the level of publicity she will bring. Could hasten any release I suspect



Sorry to disagree, AC is not so well thought of by governments of Canada or Egypt.  After her level of publicity over "I will be arrested claim".  That is so why Canada not meet her before Cairo visit by minister.  

What is she doing? to scramble things up for AC publicity.  I think not work but sad attempt, and reflect not good on her for future.

uhh, you have no proof to say that the Canadian government didn't meet with her because of the Egyptian arrest claim story that the Guardian screwed up on. Which by the way - the paper itself issued an apology for that screw up, it wasn't her fault. The Canadian foreign minister did not issue any statement about why he chose not to meet with her so you are just jumping to conclusions. 

As for "what is she doing?" What else is she supposed to do? What would you have her do instead...? Sit on her ass and not do anything while Canada and Egypt do nothing as well. Greste was released a week ago. Fahmy should be out by now too. She is his lawyer and she has to do something and frankly, all other avenues look to have been exhausted at this point, so she's left with really no other choice than to go to Cairo and at least TRY to inquire about his release in person. Whether she is granted her request to meet with officials or the president remains to be seen. But she should go see Fahmy at the very least, that's what any good lawyer would do at this point. I'm in law school right now, and quite frankly it's exactly what i would do if I were in her position right now....whether or not people think i'm doing it for publicity or whatever. Her client is being jerked around.

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Post by party animal - not! on Sun Feb 08 2015, 10:41

Yep. I agree, Kat, and in the light of the Canadian Foreign Minister's unexpected resignation, this was the very least she could do. The Canadian Government have come in for a lot of criticism for dragging their feet on this one. A think those in the know were expecting them to, if not resolve the situation then at least make more headway.

The demonstrations which have met the Egyptian foreign minister and others of journalists greeting politicians with taped mouths have provided great photo ops which have been pretty embarrassing for them.

There's an election coming up in Egypt and maybe they were hoping to stagger the releases of the journalists in the interests of their own PR and seeming to be more democratic government to the world? Or maybe there's a ton of infighting between the odd potty judge and the government.

Who knows, but a vacuum of doing nothing doesn't help anyone

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Post by Silje on Sun Feb 08 2015, 11:31

I wonder why Greste was released before Fahmy?

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Post by party animal - not! on Sun Feb 08 2015, 12:12

Bottom line there I guess is he's Australian, so could be deported to his own country. There was a huge amount of effort from the government and the lawyer representing him, but that sort stands out. 

Fahmy has dual nationality, as we know, and we know what he's had to do so far to try and secure his release.

But I read  this morning that Baher Mohamed is to stand trial....

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Post by party animal - not! on Sun Feb 08 2015, 17:13

Retrial starts Thursday - maybe she'd been given notice of that as his counsel when she wrote to the president - or maybe the publicity may have hastened the process.........

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Post by melbert on Sun Feb 08 2015, 22:31

Egypt sets retrial date for jailed Canadian journalist Mohamed Fahmy

The announcement of the retrial date dealt a blow to his family, who said they “have been let down” by Ottawa’s approach to Fahmy’s case.

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Canadian journalist Mohamed Fahmy talks to the judge during his trial on terror charges in Cairo, Egypt in this May 2014 file photo. A retrial has been set for Feb. 12, 2015.
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CAIRO—Canadian journalist Mohamed Fahmy is set to be retried on terrorism-related charges in Cairo later this month, a development his family called their "worst nightmare."
Fahmy — who has spent more than a year in an Egyptian prison — was expected to be set free after former Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird said just days ago that his release was "imminent." John Baird said just days ago that his release was "imminent."
But Fahmy's family said Sunday that the 40-year-old journalist and his Egyptian colleague will now be retried on Feb. 12.
"The trial date on Feb. 12th represents our worst nightmare, to have to go through another circus of a retrial," Fahmy's brother Adel said in a statement.
Fahmy and two colleagues — Australian Peter Greste and Egyptian Baher Mohammed — were arrested on Dec. 29, 2013, and accused of supporting the banned Islamist Muslim Brotherhood group of ousted Egyptian president Mohammed Morsi. They were also charged with fabricating footage to undermine Egypt's national security.
The trio denied all the allegations against them but after a trial that was internationally criticized, Fahmy and Greste were sentenced to seven years in prison, while Mohammed was sentenced to 10 years.
An appeal in January allowed their case to be retried, but a date had not been set and Fahmy's family had hoped diplomatic efforts would secure the journalist's release before the case went to court again.
Greste was then freed last Sunday under new legislation that allows Egypt's President Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi to deport foreigners convicted or accused of crimes.

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Re: Amal Alamuddin and her work

Post by kat19 on Mon Feb 09 2015, 01:47

party animal - not! wrote:Bottom line there I guess is he's Australian, so could be deported to his own country. There was a huge amount of effort from the government and the lawyer representing him, but that sort stands out. 

Fahmy has dual nationality, as we know, and we know what he's had to do so far to try and secure his release.

But I read  this morning that Baher Mohamed is to stand trial....

Fahmy has renounced his Egyptian citizenship now....he only has his Canadian citizenship now, he no longer holds duel-citizenship.

From what I can gather, this one's on the Canadian government. They didn't do enough. Now the re-trial is set which is a nightmare scenario. Fahmy's brother was on Canadian news today explaining that the Australian Prime Minister himself called Egypt on Greste's behalf THREE times and this ultimately led to his release. The Australian government was on top of this and secured Greste's freedom. The Canadian PM has done nothing. And the Canadian government has just dragged its feet. So now Fahmy is facing a re-trial and they are trying to do the leg work themselves knocking on the doors of the prosecutor, foreign minister, and President of Egypt because the Canadian government is not doing anything for him. This is why Amal is trying to get meetings with President Sisi and other officials because they've basically been abandoned by the Canadian government at this point. 

Apparently she talked to the Canadian ambassador last night for over an hour and was given reassurances that Fahmy would be freed. And then today Egypt announced the re-trial. I think the Canadian government has been complete shit in this scenario. And as a Canadian I'm just ashamed of the way they handled it. Fahmy's brother was adament that the government have done very little diplomatically to help Mohamed Fahmy.

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Post by party animal - not! on Mon Feb 09 2015, 02:53

Thanks very much for this, Kat. 

In a way you could sort of read between the lines that this was the case. John Baird didn't give me the impression that a lot was being done diplomatically, or if it was it felt like too little too late.

Do you know the reasons (or can you surmise?) for his hasty resignation?

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