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George Clooney in Armenia on 23 and 24 April 2015 with System of a Down group to support the recognition of the Armenian genocide.


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Post by Joanna Wed 17 Dec 2014, 14:14

Maybe George is now going in a different direction
in his life.
Good for him I say. Thumbs up!
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Post by party animal - not! Wed 17 Dec 2014, 16:33

I think this is very interesting. Those dates are the 100th anniversary of the 1915 Armenian genocide.

And I'm wondering if a) he's been asked to lend his name to highlight it and b) whether a legal process is about to start in conjunction with it..........

Whichever, he's clearly researched it and is committed to the cause.........

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Post by PigPen Wed 17 Dec 2014, 16:52

PAN, can't get English translation of the story... can't find it on google either.  can you give a quick summary of what the initial posting reads?  Thx

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Post by Nicky80 Wed 17 Dec 2014, 17:35

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George Clooney to join SOAD for Armenia trip on Genocide centennial

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Hollywood star George Clooney will arrive in Armenia next April together with the System Of A Down, SOAD frontman Serj Tankian has confirmed on Instagram.
“There’s a rumor that George Clooney will be coming to Armenia with us next April. This is undeniable truth,” Tankian has written.
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Post by Nicky80 Wed 17 Dec 2014, 17:54

Some Informations I found online

What is the Armenian Genocide? 
The atrocities committed against the Armenian people of the Ottoman Empire during W.W.I are called the Armenian Genocide. Genocide is the organized killing of a people for the express purpose of putting an end to their collective existence. Because of its scope, genocide requires central planning and a machinery to implement it. This makes genocide the quintessential state crime as only a government has the resources to carry out such a scheme of destruction. The Armenian Genocide was centrally planned and administered by the Turkish government against the entire Armenian population of the Ottoman Empire. It was carried out during W.W.I between the years 1915 and 1918. The Armenian people were subjected to deportation, expropriation, abduction, torture, massacre, and starvation. The great bulk of the Armenian population was forcibly removed from Armenia and Anatolia to Syria, where the vast majority was sent into the desert to die of thirst and hunger. Large numbers of Armenians were methodically massacred throughout the Ottoman Empire. Women and children were abducted and horribly abused. The entire wealth of the Armenian people was expropriated. After only a little more than a year of calm at the end of W.W.I, the atrocities were renewed between 1920 and 1923, and the remaining Armenians were subjected to further massacres and expulsions. In 1915, thirty-three years before UN Genocide Convention was adopted, the Armenian Genocide was condemned by the international community as a crime against humanity.

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Armenian Genocide

In 1915, leaders of the Turkish government set in motion a plan to expel and massacre Armenians living in the Ottoman Empire. Though reports vary, most sources agree that there were about 2 million Armenians in the Ottoman Empire at the time of the massacre. By the early 1920s, when the massacres and deportations finally ended, some 1.5 million of Turkey’s Armenians were dead, with many more forcibly removed from the country. Today, most historians call this event a genocide–a premeditated and systematic campaign to exterminate an entire people. However, the Turkish government does not acknowledge the enormity or scope of these events. Despite pressure from Armenians and social justice advocates throughout the world, it is still illegal in Turkey to talk about what happened to Armenians during this era.

The Roots of Genocide: The Ottoman Empire

The Armenian people have made their home in the Caucasus region of Eurasia for some 3,000 years. For some of that time, the kingdom of Armenia was an independent entity–at the beginning of the 4th century AD, for instance, it became the first nation in the world to make Christianity its official religion–but for the most part, control of the region shifted from one empire to another. During the 15th century, Armenia was absorbed into the mighty Ottoman Empire.

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American news outlets have also been reluctant to use the word “genocide” to describe Turkey’s crimes. The phrase “Armenian genocide” did not appear in the New York Times until 2004.

The Ottoman rulers, like most of their subjects, were Muslim. They permitted religious minorities like the Armenians to maintain some autonomy, but they also subjected Armenians, who they viewed as “infidels,” to unequal and unjust treatment. Christians had to pay higher taxes than Muslims, for example, and they had very few political and legal rights.
In spite of these obstacles, the Armenian community thrived under Ottoman rule. They tended to be better educated and wealthier than their Turkish neighbors, who in turn tended to resent their success. This resentment was compounded by suspicions that the Christian Armenians would be more loyal to Christian governments (that of the Russians, for example, who shared an unstable border with Turkey) than they were to the Ottoman caliphate.
These suspicions grew more acute as the Ottoman Empire crumbled. At the end of the 19th century, the despotic Turkish Sultan Abdul Hamid II–obsessed with loyalty above all, and infuriated by the nascent Armenian campaign to win basic civil rights–declared that he would solve the “Armenian question” once and for all. “I will soon settle those Armenians,” he told a reporter in 1890. “I will give them a box on the ear which will make them…relinquish their revolutionary ambitions.”

The First Armenian Massacre

Between 1894 and 1896, this “box on the ear” took the form of a state-sanctioned pogrom. In response to large scale protests by Armenians, Turkish military officials, soldiers and ordinary men sacked Armenian villages and cities and massacred their citizens. Hundreds of thousands of Armenians were murdered.

The Rise of the Young Turks

In 1908, a new government came to power in Turkey. A group of reformers who called themselves the “Young Turks” overthrew Sultan Abdul Hamid and established a more modern constitutional government. At first, the Armenians were hopeful that they would have an equal place in this new state, but they soon learned that what the nationalistic Young Turks wanted most of all was to “Turkify” the empire. According to this way of thinking, non-Turks–and especially Christian non-Turks–were a grave threat to the new state

World War I

In 1914, the Turks entered World War I on the side of Germany and the Austro-Hungarian Empire. (At the same time, Ottoman religious authorities declared jihad, or holy war, against all Christians except their allies.) Military leaders began to argue that the Armenians were traitors: If they thought they could win independence if the Allies were victorious, this argument went, the Armenians would be eager to fight for the enemy. As the war intensified, Armenians organized volunteer battalions to help the Russian army fight against the Turks in the Caucasus region. These events, and general Turkish suspicion of the Armenian people, led the Turkish government to push for the “removal” of the Armenians from the war zones along the Eastern Front.

Genocide Begins

On April 24, 1915, the Armenian genocide began. That day, the Turkish government arrested and executed several hundred Armenian intellectuals. After that, ordinary Armenians were turned out of their homes and sent on death marches through the Mesopotamian desert without food or water. Frequently, the marchers were stripped naked and forced to walk under the scorching sun until they dropped dead. People who stopped to rest were shot.
At the same time, the Young Turks created a “Special Organization,” which in turn organized “killing squads” or “butcher battalions” to carry out, as one officer put it, “the liquidation of the Christian elements.” These killing squads were often made up of murderers and other ex-convicts. They drowned people in rivers, threw them off cliffs, crucified them and burned them alive. In short order, the Turkish countryside was littered with Armenian corpses.
Records show that during this “Turkification”campaign government squads also kidnapped children, converted them to Islam and gave them to Turkish families. In some places, they raped women and forced them to join Turkish “harems” or serve as slaves. Muslim families moved into the homes of deported Armenians and seized their property.
In 1922, when the genocide was over, there were just 388,000 Armenians remaining in the Ottoman Empire.

The Armenian Genocide Today

After the Ottomans surrendered in 1918, the leaders of the Young Turks fled to Germany, which promised not to prosecute them for the genocide. (However, a group of Armenian nationalists devised a plan, known as Operation Nemesis, to track down and assassinate the leaders of the genocide.) Ever since then, the Turkish government has denied that a genocide took place. The Armenians were an enemy force, they argue, and their slaughter was a necessary war measure. Today, Turkey is an important ally of the U.S. and other Western nations, and so their governments have likewise been reluctant to condemn the long-ago killings. In March 2010, a U.S. Congressional panel at last voted to recognize the genocide.

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The 100th anniversary of the Armenian Genocide[1] will be commemorated on April 24, 2015.

Every year on April 24 Armenians around the world commemorate the victims of the Armenian Genocide also known as the Armenian Holocaust, the Armenian Massacres. April 24 of 1915 is the day when thousands of the Armenian community leaders of Constantinople (now Istanbul) were deported and mostly executed.

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Post by Nicky80 Wed 17 Dec 2014, 18:02

party animal - not! wrote:I think this is very interesting. Those dates are the 100th anniversary of the 1915 Armenian genocide.

And I'm wondering if a) he's been asked to lend his name to highlight it and b) whether a legal process is about to start in conjunction with it..........

Whichever, he's clearly researched it and is committed to the cause.........



mmhh I really don't understand the connection with George and this Event. I'm lost. Really wonder if this is true
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Post by Nicky80 Wed 17 Dec 2014, 18:22

I'm not sure about you but I had to Google Armenia to see where it is located hehe

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Post by Nicky80 Wed 17 Dec 2014, 18:55

Now they say 23rd April.....mmhh  

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George Clooney in Yerevan April 23, 2015 with System Of A Down?

According to Haykakan Zhamanak Armenian newspaper, actor George Clooney, known among other things for his humanitarian efforts, could accompany the famous Rock-Metal band System Of A Down to his concert on April 23 in Yerevan.

Also according to the news organization, Mr. "Nespresso" reportedly said that he married the Armenian cause for international recognition of the Armenian genocide.

The concert in Yerevan will be given by international stars met on the occasion of the centenary commemoration of the 1915 genocide is completely free.

The group of musicians of Armenian origin, with more than 31 million albums sold, has always been at the forefront for genocide recognition and repair.

System Of A Down clear that its international campaign is not directed against the people of Turkey, but on the atrocities that were committed. It "aims to establish justice, recognition, support and determination."

For this international tour, the group will perform, among others,

- April 6 at the Los Angeles Forum
- April 10 at Wembley Arena in London
- April 13 at Lanxess Arena in Cologne
- April 14 at La Halle Tony Garnier in Lyon
- April 16 at Forest National in Brussels
- April 17 at Ziggo Dome in Amsterdam
- April 20 to Olympisky in Moscow

SOAD to follow on Twitter in the campaign Take Action> #wakeupthesouls

Group composition: Daron Malakian (guitar and vocals), Serj Tankian (vocals and keyboards), Shavo Odadjian (bass) and John Dolmayan (drums). Their latest album is out. It rocks!


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Post by PigPen Wed 17 Dec 2014, 18:57

Also according to the news organization, Mr. "Nespresso" reportedly said that he married the Armenian cause for international recognition of the Armenian genocide.


thought he married Amal.  LOL

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Post by Nicky80 Wed 17 Dec 2014, 18:57

Oh got it...23rd April is the concert and from the 24th April the conference....
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Post by Nicky80 Wed 17 Dec 2014, 18:59

PigPen wrote:Also according to the news organization, Mr. "Nespresso" reportedly said that he married the Armenian cause for international recognition of the Armenian genocide.


thought he married Amal.  LOL

LOL!

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Post by Mele Wed 17 Dec 2014, 21:02

Geoffrey Robinson, head of Amal's chambers, has recently released a book on the Armenian genocide.

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Post by Nicky80 Wed 17 Dec 2014, 21:13

AH Interesting. Thanks Mele...now I see the Connection Wink


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An Inconvenient Genocide: Who Now Remembers the Armenians?

by Geoffrey Robertson



The most controversial issue left over from the First World War – was there an Armenian Genocide? – comes to a head on 24 April 2015, when Armenians throughout the world commemorate the centenary of the murder of 1.5 million – over half – of their people, at the hands of the Ottoman Turkish government. Turkey continues to deny it ever happened – or if it did, that the killings were justified.

This has become a vital international issue. Twenty national parliaments have voted to recognise the genocide, but Britain equivocates and President Obama is torn between Congress, which wants recognition, and the US military, afraid of alienating an important NATO ally. In Australia three state governments have recognised the genocide (despite threats to ban their MPs from Gallipoli), but the Abbott government has told the Turks that Australia does not.

Geoffrey Robertson QC despises this mendacity. His book proves beyond reasonable doubt that the horrific events of 1915 – witnessed by Australian POWs – constituted the crime against humanity that is known today as genocide. In this book he explains how democratic countries can combat genocide denial without denying free speech, and makes a major contribution to understanding and preventing this worst of all crimes. His renowned powers of advocacy are on full display, as he condemns all those – from Sri Lanka to the Sudan, from Old Anatolia to modern Gaza - who try to justify the mass murder of children and civilians in the name of military necessity.




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Post by party animal - not! Wed 17 Dec 2014, 21:17

Ha! Got it.........!! Well done, Mele.

So he's raising the profile.....brilliant! SOAD are based in Southern California too

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Post by Silje Wed 17 Dec 2014, 21:28

This is going to upset the Turks who is a NATO member.

It still illegal in Turkey to talk about what happened to the Armenians in this era.  Since Turkey is a an important ally to the US and other Western countries the goverments in these countries have been reluctanty to condemn what happened. So the Turks got away with murdering 1,5 million   Armenians. Wonder what made George interested in this. The Armenians were killed because they were not Turks and Christian. Still a hot potato with Armenia and Azerbajdzjan (turkish speaking people)fighting over Nagorno-Karabach.
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Post by party animal - not! Wed 17 Dec 2014, 21:35

Australian POWs witnessed everything that happened, and I think a lot has been swept under the carpet nd some things haven't been addressed. Not sure Erdogan will be happy at all........

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Post by Nicky80 Wed 17 Dec 2014, 21:38

Oh no PAN imagine Erdogan vs George Shocked Shocked Shocked  That's worst then Boris (Mayor of London) via George Razz
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Post by Silje Wed 17 Dec 2014, 21:40

And of course Geoffrey Robertson is an Aussie, maybee he knew some of those POW from WWI? The Aussies lost a lot people in Turkey didn't they?
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Post by party animal - not! Wed 17 Dec 2014, 22:01

I wouldn't mind betting, Nicky, that George and Boris have already met, had a  drink or two, and a good laugh.

Not at all sure I would say that about George and Erdogan!!

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Post by ldg Wed 17 Dec 2014, 23:19

many moons ago I was a transcriptionist working for the Library of Congress on a contract job and had to transcribe several lectures/presentations about the Armenian genocide.  I found it fascinating (not in a good way of course), and considering I love history, I was amazed that I'd never heard about it.

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Post by party animal - not! Thu 18 Dec 2014, 00:37

Geoffrey Robertson with a few (horrific) facts, being interviewed about 'An Inconvenient Genocide'

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Post by melbert Thu 18 Dec 2014, 03:23

Maybe that's why the Kardashians were at the restaurant the other night when George and Amal were there.  They are Armenian.
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Post by Way2Old4Dis Thu 18 Dec 2014, 03:40

Yeah... or the LargeAssians have insiders at the restaurant who let them know the Clooneys were going to be there...

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Post by LornaDoone Thu 18 Dec 2014, 03:43

I think that would have been a co-incidence. I feel the only thing of interest to the Kardashians is their show, their popularity and their money.  I doubt they give a damn about Armenian genocide.

Now their dad when he was alive - maybe.  The kids. Doubt it.  But hey  that's just my opinion based on observation of a family of self absorbed folks.
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Post by LizzyNY Thu 18 Dec 2014, 04:11

I wonder what they hope to accomplish with the conference. Obviously, they want recognition of the genocide but what else? What is the purpose of the conference? Are they going to ask for financial reparations?

I guess I'm really wondering if Amal's chambers are going to be involved in some kind of legal actions, and if they are, will she be involved? Is that why George is getting so involved (if he really is)?

Considering the tenuous relationship Turkey has with the western powers, this issue can have all kinds of political consequences. I wonder if he's going to clear the trip with his good buddy in the White House?
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Post by Nicky80 Tue 23 Dec 2014, 08:39

I copied that article in Amal's work thread as well....I guess now we know why George got involved in this rumor....



Sassounian: Amal Clooney to Represent Armenia in European Court


Here is a surprising news item being disclosed for the first time in this column—Amal Ramzi Alamuddin, wife of prominent actor and human rights activist George Clooney, will be one of the attorneys representing Armenia next month at the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR).
Mrs. Clooney is a highly regarded attorney specializing in international law, criminal law, human rights, and extradition. She has been involved in several major lawsuits such as return of the Elgin Marbles from Great Britain to Greece, and defending Julian Assange of WikiLeaks and former Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko. She has also worked with the Prosecutor of the UN Special Tribunal for Lebanon, and the International Criminal Tribunal for former Yugoslavia.
Amal was born in Lebanon to a Druze father and Sunni Muslim mother in 1978. At the age of two, her family moved to the United Kingdom. She received her law degree from New York University School of Law and clerked at the International Court of Justice (World Court). After returning to London in 2010, she became a barrister at the Doughty Street Chambers. She served as advisor to Kofi Annan, UN Special Envoy on Syria, and as Counsel to the 2013 UN Drone Inquiry team. She is fluent in English, French and Arabic. Her marriage to George Clooney in September 2014 made worldwide headlines.
With such impeccable credentials, Mrs. Clooney will be a great asset to Armenia’s legal team in Strasbourg, in the appeal of Perincek vs. Switzerland before the Grand Chamber of the European Court of Human Rights on January 28.
The case involves the conviction by Swiss courts of Dogu Perincek, a minor Turkish political party leader, who had travelled to Switzerland in 2005 with the explicit intent of denying the truth of the Armenian Genocide. In 2008, Perincek appealed the Swiss ruling to the European Court of Human Rights. A majority of five out of seven ECHR judges ruled on Dec. 17, 2013 that Switzerland had violated Perincek’s right to free expression.
This ruling was an unfair and unacceptable double standard, as the court considered denial of the Jewish Holocaust a crime, but Armenian Genocide denial an infringement on free speech. The five judges who ruled against Switzerland made countless judgmental and factual errors, misrepresenting Perincek’s allegations, misinterpreting Switzerland’s laws and court rulings, lacking basic knowledge of the Armenian Genocide, and repeatedly contradicting themselves. Two of the seven judges disagreed with the majority’s ruling and submitted a comprehensive 19-page report on the Armenian Genocide, siding with the Swiss court.
On March 17, 2014, Switzerland decided to appeal the ruling to ECHR’s 17-judge Grand Chamber, to defend the integrity of its laws and the country’s legal system. Specifically, the Swiss government challenged the court’s decision on three grounds:
1) ECHR had never before dealt with the juridical qualification of genocide and the scope of freedom of expression;
2) The undue restriction of “the margin of appreciation” available to Switzerland under ECHR’s jurisprudence;
3) The establishment of ‘artificial distinctions’ — in the absence of an international verdict, ECHR should have considered the Turkish Court’s 1919 guilty verdicts against the masterminds of the Armenian Genocide as evidence related to World Court’s jurisprudence.
Last year, when ECHR’s lower court was considering Perincek’s case, Armenia did not participate. Turkey, however, intervened by submitting extensive documentation questioning the veracity of the Armenian Genocide. This time around Armenia will take part with a strong legal team, which includes Geoffrey Robertson QC, a preeminent international lawyer and author of the remarkable book, “An Inconvenient Genocide: Who Now Remembers the Armenians?” Robertson will be joined in court by his associate Amal Clooney, and two Armenian government representatives Gevorg Kostanyan and Emil Babayan.
It is imperative that on the eve of the Armenian Genocide’s Centennial in 2015, ECHR’s Grand Chamber reverse the lower court’s flawed ruling, restoring the integrity of Swiss laws and preventing Turkey and Perincek from exporting their genocide denialism to Europe and beyond!


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Great find, Nicky.........

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Post by PigPen Tue 23 Dec 2014, 14:40

Nicky80 wrote:I copied that article in Amal's work thread as well....I guess now we know why George got involved in this rumor....



Sassounian: Amal Clooney to Represent Armenia in European Court


Here is a surprising news item being disclosed for the first time in this column—Amal Ramzi Alamuddin, wife of prominent actor and human rights activist George Clooney, will be one of the attorneys representing Armenia next month at the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR).
Mrs. Clooney is a highly regarded attorney specializing in international law, criminal law, human rights, and extradition. She has been involved in several major lawsuits such as return of the Elgin Marbles from Great Britain to Greece, and defending Julian Assange of WikiLeaks and former Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko. She has also worked with the Prosecutor of the UN Special Tribunal for Lebanon, and the International Criminal Tribunal for former Yugoslavia.
Amal was born in Lebanon to a Druze father and Sunni Muslim mother in 1978. At the age of two, her family moved to the United Kingdom. She received her law degree from New York University School of Law and clerked at the International Court of Justice (World Court). After returning to London in 2010, she became a barrister at the Doughty Street Chambers. She served as advisor to Kofi Annan, UN Special Envoy on Syria, and as Counsel to the 2013 UN Drone Inquiry team. She is fluent in English, French and Arabic. Her marriage to George Clooney in September 2014 made worldwide headlines.
With such impeccable credentials, Mrs. Clooney will be a great asset to Armenia’s legal team in Strasbourg, in the appeal of Perincek vs. Switzerland before the Grand Chamber of the European Court of Human Rights on January 28.
The case involves the conviction by Swiss courts of Dogu Perincek, a minor Turkish political party leader, who had travelled to Switzerland in 2005 with the explicit intent of denying the truth of the Armenian Genocide. In 2008, Perincek appealed the Swiss ruling to the European Court of Human Rights. A majority of five out of seven ECHR judges ruled on Dec. 17, 2013 that Switzerland had violated Perincek’s right to free expression.
This ruling was an unfair and unacceptable double standard, as the court considered denial of the Jewish Holocaust a crime, but Armenian Genocide denial an infringement on free speech. The five judges who ruled against Switzerland made countless judgmental and factual errors, misrepresenting Perincek’s allegations, misinterpreting Switzerland’s laws and court rulings, lacking basic knowledge of the Armenian Genocide, and repeatedly contradicting themselves. Two of the seven judges disagreed with the majority’s ruling and submitted a comprehensive 19-page report on the Armenian Genocide, siding with the Swiss court.
On March 17, 2014, Switzerland decided to appeal the ruling to ECHR’s 17-judge Grand Chamber, to defend the integrity of its laws and the country’s legal system. Specifically, the Swiss government challenged the court’s decision on three grounds:
1) ECHR had never before dealt with the juridical qualification of genocide and the scope of freedom of expression;
2) The undue restriction of “the margin of appreciation” available to Switzerland under ECHR’s jurisprudence;
3) The establishment of ‘artificial distinctions’ — in the absence of an international verdict, ECHR should have considered the Turkish Court’s 1919 guilty verdicts against the masterminds of the Armenian Genocide as evidence related to World Court’s jurisprudence.
Last year, when ECHR’s lower court was considering Perincek’s case, Armenia did not participate. Turkey, however, intervened by submitting extensive documentation questioning the veracity of the Armenian Genocide. This time around Armenia will take part with a strong legal team, which includes Geoffrey Robertson QC, a preeminent international lawyer and author of the remarkable book, “An Inconvenient Genocide: Who Now Remembers the Armenians?” Robertson will be joined in court by his associate Amal Clooney, and two Armenian government representatives Gevorg Kostanyan and Emil Babayan.
It is imperative that on the eve of the Armenian Genocide’s Centennial in 2015, ECHR’s Grand Chamber reverse the lower court’s flawed ruling, restoring the integrity of Swiss laws and preventing Turkey and Perincek from exporting their genocide denialism to Europe and beyond!


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Would confirm weak rumors that they want to be humanitarian power couple. I suspect we'll see more stories/rumors of him getting involved in more of her projects.

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