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Post by Way2Old4Dis on Wed Dec 10 2014, 21:19

(Didn't know whether to put this here or the other Sony thread, or start a new thread. Mods, do as you wish.)

Summary of the info from the Sony hack.

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Roughly two weeks ago, eerily adept cybercriminals hacked into Sony's computer systems, paralyzed their operations, and tapped into a trove of hypersensitive, internal information. Since that initial attack, a steady flow of revelations — including top employees' salaries, nasty Hollywood hardball emails, and illicit movie downloads — has trickled into news reports and file-sharing sites. Sony is working with multiple authorities to pinpoint who the hackers are. But for now, the relentless hackers, dubbed Guardians of Peace, have made it clear that they're not done tormenting the company — and won't stop until Sony meets their demands. The attackers have also gone as far as threatening the families of Sony employees. Here's a list — to be updated — of everything revealed by the hacks so far.
Watermarked Screeners and Forthcoming Films
Soon after Sony's systems went down, awards-season screeners of Fury, Annie, Still Alice, and Mr. Turner, as well as a cut of the 2015 film To Write Love on Her Arms, were disseminated on illegal file-sharing sites. The films immediately became early Christmas presents for piracy-site frequenters. According to Variety, Fury was downloaded more than 1 million times one day after the leaks.
Silver Linings
Trying to find some optimism amid the piracy muck, Sony told Deadline a few days after the first leaks that its computer systems were copacetic and that it was working out a deal to create a narrative feature of Tiller Russell's The Seven Five, essentially the corrupt-cop version of Goodfellas. The site also reported that Sony's social accounts — for the company and its compromised movies — surged with new subscribers. The official Sony page grabbed 1.6 million likes on Thanksgiving Day.
The $1 Million Club
Fusion sifted through the compromised internal documents and discovered an eye-opening annual rate chasm: Of the studio's 17 seven-figure U.S. earners, nearly all are white and only one of them is a woman. The data dump also included the compensation plans and personal information of more than 6,000 other Sony employees (later including Princess Beatrice of York, who earns $30,300 as an intermediate coordinating producer), as well as cheesy scripts for HR's in-house recruiting videos. Sony confirmed the veracity of the compromised assets soon after.
James Franco and Seth Rogen's Payday
Adding to a breach that exposed salaries at Deloitte Touche and a top Sony exec's credit card number, the hackers also released The Interview's budget. According to the documents, it took roughly $44 million to make the movie, with Seth Rogen receiving $8.4 million-plus and James Franco $6.5 million. The documents also catalogued the compensation rates and social security numbers for other celebrities tied to the studio, including Sylvester Stallone and Judd Apatow.
A Problem With Adam Sandler Movies
Gawker sorted through a text file called "Sony_2012_Comments" and learned that people at the studio don't like that they make so many Adam Sandler movies. (Since 2008, Sony has released six.) "There is a general 'blah-ness' to the films we produce," complained one employee. "Althought [sic] we manage to produce an innovative film once in awhile, Social Network, Moneyball, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, we continue to be saddled with the mundane, formulaic Adam Sandler films." 
Don't Forget About TV
Reporters at Mashable reviewed a number of documents, too — some having to do with Sony's television arm. They found that Sony's three-year Seinfeld syndication deal for local affiliate stations will earn the company at least $18.5 million. Pilot scripts for the 2014 TV season were also leaked — one of the juiciest was for Vince Gilligan's Battle Creek.
Top-Secret Profitability
Among the thousands of documents floating around, THR found top-secret letters that note details about production spending and ultimate profitability on some of last year's films. A slew of projects, including This Is the End ($50 million), Grown Ups 2 ($48 million), Captain Phillips ($39 million), and American Hustle ($27 million), will end up in profit, among others.
Celebrity Aliases

Fusion was able to track down a folder labeled "publicity bibles," which included cast and crew contact directories for recently released Sony films. The files blew the cover on the secret aliases some of the studio's movie stars use to do normal-people things. Fusion shared the alter egos of Tom Hanks ("Harry Lauder," "Johnny Madrid"), Jessica Alba ("Cash Money"), and Natalie Portman ("Lauren Brown"), among others.

Monetary Demands

For the first few weeks, it was unknown what the hackers wanted from Sony. Mashable, however, tracked down an extortion email sent to top studio execs three days before the attack. It reads:

We've got great damage by Sony Pictures.

The compensation for it, monetary compensation we want.

Pay the damage, or Sony Pictures will be bombarded as a whole.

You know us very well.
We never wait long.

You'd better behave wisely.

From God'sApstls

As Mashable pointed out, it has not been possible to confirm that the letter from God'sApstls was wholly related to the ensuing Guardians of Peace hack. This tweet/email makes things a little more confusing, but one thing is certain: Whether it's one group or several, a seemingly global force is pissed off at Sony.
The Steve Jobs Meltdown
Information about Aaron Sorkin's Steve Jobs film was released Tuesday in the form of some acerbic emails. Gawker posted a string of correspondences, between Sony Pictures co-chairman Amy Pascal and producer Scott Rudin, that purportedly details how Sony lost control of the project. The exchanges the site posted reveal almost a year's worth of incensed Hollywood hardball (including some Angelina Jolie-bashing and Michael Fassbender-penis-appreciating). Even David Fincher got in on the fun with an Adam Driver slam. Ars Technica got its hands on another portion of the exchanges that had Sorkin lobbying for Tom Cruise to try on the lead role.
Spider-Man Crossover
More Amy Pascal emails, the details of which were revealed by The Wall Street Journal, discussed new plans for Sony's Spidey. One email reportedly referenced a Marvel-produced trilogy, and another let loose that the comics giant wanted Spider-Man in its third Captain America movie. One of the Journal's sources said that Marvel eventually pulled out and that Sony is now going forward with its own plan. A part of said plan is an animated comedy for the superhero; it would be produced by 22 Jump Street's Chris Miller and Phil Lord.
So far the hackers have released to reporters three batches of documents, which many outlets are still sifting through. Although investigators have not presently identified the culprits, the attackers reportedly worked from a hotel in Thailand. Despite speculation that North Korea could be involved and that Sony's upcoming film The Interview was the root of the problem, the country has denied involvement, and according to Variety, Sony still plans on releasing the Rogen-Franco pic on Christmas Day.

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Post by LornaDoone on Thu Dec 11 2014, 03:57

WOW!  A whole lot of personal info was on those servers!

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Post by Donnamarie on Thu Dec 11 2014, 12:08

I guess that email exchange from Pascal and Rubin was amazing to me. The things Rubin said about Jolie. THose comments are making headlines. How do you backtrack those remarks.

Understand Amy Pascal made the top five most powerful women onThe Hollywood Reporter's Power 100 list of women. Announced just yesterday. A few years ago she was at top of that list.

This movie, The Interview, which supposedly was the reason behind the hacking may have originally done respectable at the box office. Now, I can imagine with all the press about this story that it will do gangbusters.

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Post by party animal - not! on Thu Dec 11 2014, 12:40

Lots of stuff online about his ranting (and throwing!) ways, but not a bad word about Pascal...

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Post by Donnamarie on Thu Dec 11 2014, 13:27

George must be shaking his head. He has known for a while it was only a matter of time a hacking of this magnitude was going to hit Hollywood. He obviously has been careful about what he puts in an email and probably what he texts too. Forget Twitter and Facebook. And yet so many smart people in the business have been so careless and even reckless with their words in the techno sphere.
Makes you long for the days of typewritten letters and snail mail.

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Post by Way2Old4Dis on Thu Dec 11 2014, 13:51

I think George considers Amy Pascal a friend, or at least a very close associate. I wonder what he thinks of Pascal's racially charged 'banter' with Rudin about President Obama.

Scott Rudin got his start in casting, and the word is that he was an asshole even then. He has produced some very good movies, but he is not a creative, and his skills lie in making the deals that get movies made. For him to insult as "talentless" a woman who is an Oscar winner in acting who then transitioned to successful director and producer is almost laughable -- if it wasn't so bitterly petty.

Jolie may have an outsized ego. So fucking what. She has to. She doesn't make the kinds of movies that are guaranteed moneymakers, and she's in a world teeming with men with attitudes like Rudin's, so she has to be a fighter. Rudin yells at staff and throws things when he gets mad, but he's called "intense" or "temperamental." He has some nerve.

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Post by fava on Thu Dec 11 2014, 14:23

Oh, George.  No capitalization or punctuation.  Pet peeve of mine.

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Post by LornaDoone on Thu Dec 11 2014, 14:24

double standard always.

A strong woman is called a bitch.

A strong man is called a leader.

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“A $180 million ego bath”: All the Hollywood stereotypes the leaked Sony emails confirm

From begging to threats and trash-talking, this exchange is something straight out of "Swimming With Sharks"

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While Hollywood industry stereotypes have been around as long as Hollywood itself, from the trash-talking agent to the prima donna actress, for those of us outside the bubble, it’s hard not to think that these portrayals must mostly be overblown caricatures. This is an industry where functional people collaborate on big projects with a lot of moving parts; it can’t really be a bunch of deranged, megalomaniacal brats cursing at each other and flinging their shit around, can it? Well, this morning Gawker’s Defamer posted a series of emails from the latest round of Sony leaks, and it’s safe to say, well, yeah, that’s pretty much exactly what it is.

Some back story: The emails center around the long-embattled, Sorkin-penned Steve Jobs biopic (not the one with Ashton Kutcher) that has been in the works at Sony for years. The project has been plagued by drama and personnel shifts — first David Fincher and Christian Bale were in talks to direct and star, then it was Danny Boyle and DiCaprio, then DiCaprio was out, then Bale again, then Fassbender, then pretty much anyone they could get — and it was finally announced a few weeks ago that Sony Pictures had lost the film to Universal. The leaked emails take place from February to November, and are mostly between notoriously abrasive producer Scott Rudin and Sony Pictures co-chairman Amy Pascal, with the initial point of conflict being Angelina Jolie, who wanted David Fincher to direct her forthcoming “Cleopatra” film instead of  helming “Jobs.” You getting all this down?
While “Cleopatra” sounds like a nightmare and “Jobs” sounds positively cursed, it’s safe to say, we would watch a movie about this email exchange, because it has all the personalities, sassy zingers and high-drama of “Swimming With Sharks” (whose horrible boss Rudin was supposedly the inspiration for) or even a particularly good Ari-centric “Entourage” episode. From the trash-talking and threats to the bragging and begging, the emails confirms every stereotype we have about what goes on in Hollywood behind the scenes. Let us examine:
They trash-talk each other constantly, using impressively creative insults.
In an email from Rudin to Pascal: “The masturbatory call is a wank I have no time for.”


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And this from Rudin, about Angelina Jolie: “I’m not destroying my career over a minimally talented spoiled brat who thought nothing of shoving this off her plate for eighteen months so she could go direct a movie … She’s a camp event and a celebrity and that’s all and the last thing anybody needs is to make a giant bomb with her that any fool could see coming.” He also says that Jolie is “pissed because her fantasy toy-box isn’t ready for her to further toy with” and calls the movie a “$180m ego bath.”
Later, Rudin also calls Annapurna founder Megan Ellison a  ”bipolar 28 year old lunatic.”
And, no surprises, they are often very politically incorrect.
From Rudin: “Nobody needs to make a movie this badly — at least nobody in this group — to be raped in the process.”
The egos are out of control.
In an email from Pascal to a Sony colleague: “They are ours. We don’t work for these people.”
And from Rudin to Pascal: “I’ve told you exactly how I want to do this material. It’s the ONLY way I want to do this material.”
They have a ridiculously over-inflated sense of their own importance (seriously, Aaron Sorkin’s grandiose speeches have nothing on this).

Here’s an excerpt from an email that Sony marketing boss Michael Pavlic sent Pascal: “People deserve this kind of movie and in some weird way we have a responsibility to take these kinds of risks. Not to make it seem like we’re saving lives — but I actually think that. This is the kind of film that makes me thankful for movies and they’re few and far between these days.”
They are constantly threatening to ruin each other. While nobody actually says, verbatim, “You’ll never work in this town again,” it comes pretty close.
Rudin to Pascal: “YOU BETTER SHUT ANGIE DOWN BEFORE SHE MAKES IT VERY HARD FOR DAVID TO DO JOBS.”
Later: “You are about to cross a line that won’t get uncrossed after you do it. Don’t go there with me. You won’t like the result. I’m deadly serious.” And: “You’ve behaved abominably and it will be a very, very long time before I forget what you did to this movie and what you’ve put all of us through … You’ve destroyed your relationships with half the town over how you’ve behaved on this movie. If you don’t think it’s true, wait and see.
They say things like “I’ll bet my house.”
Rudin: “Let’s see the next filmmaker WME puts in business at Sony or the next piece of star talent. I’ll bet my house I’m right.”
Celebrities really are prima donnas, or are at least viewed as such by their studio handlers. (There’s no direct correspondence from Angelina here, but she sounds like a real piece of work.)
From Rudin, in one of the many correspondences about Jolie. “There is no movie of Cleopatra to be made (and how that is a bad thing given the insanity and rampaging spoiled ego of this woman and the cost of the movie is beyond me) and if you won’t tell her that you do not like the script — which let me remind you, SHE DOESNT EITHER — this will just spin even further out in Crazyland but let me tell you I have zero appetite for the indulgence of spoiled brats and I will tell her this myself if you don’t.”
Celebrities are also treated like volatile children who need their egos buttered, as this letter from WME agent Robert Newman to Leonardo DiCaprio shows:
“In the 15 years since ‘The beach’ you have both grown immeasurably in your craft and abilities …. With this text, Danny feels he’s found a script that can be as enduring a character study and portrait of our age and times as ‘Citizen Kane ‘was for a previous generation, from a writer who is the equal of Paddy Chayevsky … Steve Jobs was a man who came from nothing and nowhere to change the world, as surely as Thomas Edison did, and and there’s no better actor than you with the artistry and talent to help people understand what that must’ve been like.”
Talks of Leo’s overdue Oscar happens behind the scenes too (and is levied as a bargaining chip). 
“Just as you must surely feel great pride in helping bring Marty his Oscar on “the departed”, everyone involved in this production desperately wants to help bring you the Academy award you so richly deserve.”
Actors are generally treated like commodities to be bartered with (and even have their genitalia scrutinized). In October, still without a star actor, the Sony gang just start throwing names around. 
“Fassbender is not a star yet, but a really fine actor who is putting together a terrific body of work,” someone writes. “Shame just makes you feel bad to have normal sized male genitalia,” adds producer Michael DeLuca.
Side note: Earlier, Fincher weighed in on Adam Driver’s casting in “Star Wars,” saying “Adam Driver is a terrible idea, I’m with you.”
They throw temper-tantrums.
Rudin to Pascal: “I don’t want a producing partner. I want a studio partner … I have monumental respect for you and what you bring to the work we do together but the kum-baya part of this is a giant drag on everything for me, and I would be best left out of it as it makes me seriously ponder why I would ever want to continue doing this.” He also says that this “leaves me feeling lousy and shitty and uncared about.” (Oh, boo hoo).
… and the begging. Oh, the begging. This is from Pascal to Rudin in November, just before Sony lets the project go:
In a series of emails: “Why are u punishing me,” “You know you can do this,” “I would do this for you You should do this” and something that appears to be the word please: “Pleae.”
Industry bigwigs too, it seems, suffer with autocorrect. In our opinion, they also conduct way too much business on their (clearly very hackable) phones and via email. Is it too much to think that this could all be solved with a quick face to face?

Anna Silman is Salon's deputy entertainment editor. Follow her on Twitter: @annaesilman.

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Post by Joanna on Thu Dec 11 2014, 18:08

lol!


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Post by LizzyNY on Thu Dec 11 2014, 18:43

So, basically, they're just like the rest of us? Very Happy Anyone surprised?

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Post by Way2Old4Dis on Thu Dec 11 2014, 19:10

Tina Fey and Amy Poehler should have a field day with this at the Globes.

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Post by party animal - not! on Thu Dec 11 2014, 20:35

Oh, they've apologised.........

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Post by LornaDoone on Thu Dec 11 2014, 22:40

Pascal's "...it's not a reflection of who I am..."

Well then, what were your racist comments about the President? 

A momentary lapse of judgement?  Or were they a way to ingratiate yourself with the ole Jewish boy who himself is clearly a mysogynistic, racist pig?

Fuck them both.

God the egos of these assholes who run Hollywood know no bounds.

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Post by JMK on Thu Dec 11 2014, 23:39

I love this story.  Jennifer Aniston must be laughing hard, and today she got an award nomination and Angelina is getting snubbed big time over her movie she directed.
I hope more stuff is reveled, this is the real Hollywood-back biting.

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Post by premiere on Fri Dec 12 2014, 00:05

Way2Old4Dis wrote:Tina Fey and Amy Poehler should have a field day with this at the Globes.

Yeah, I've thought of this too. Can't wait to watch it now.


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Post by Way2Old4Dis on Fri Dec 12 2014, 00:39

I wonder how long Smokehouse's deal at Sony is for...

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Post by party animal - not! on Fri Dec 12 2014, 01:54

Mm, wondered that too. What a mess. Will  either of them turn up at the Globes?......the apology took way too long

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Post by Donnamarie on Fri Dec 12 2014, 03:39

Pan, "will either of them turn up at the Globes". Who are you referring to? Pascal and Rubin?

Yea it's such a mess. Can't make this stuff up. Wonder what George thinks about all of it. Would love his 2 cents.

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Post by Way2Old4Dis on Fri Dec 12 2014, 03:56

Well, considering that George went off on that Las Vegas Wynn guy for talking shit about President Obama, he almost has to take Pascal to task for her racial 'jokes' that "don't reflect her true character," doesn't he? He's in business with these people. Nick Clooney would tell them to fuck off without a second thought, if the stories about his early life are true.

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Post by Donnamarie on Fri Dec 12 2014, 04:23

Wonder if anything will come out about George? Behind the scenes trash talking of him and his movies by these studio ingrates. His movies don't make big bucks and as well respected as he might be his box office draw is not what it used to be. I'm sure there is so much more out there yet to be revealed.

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Post by Nicky80 on Fri Dec 12 2014, 05:59

Yeah Right

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Post by Nicky80 on Fri Dec 12 2014, 06:33

Merged threads

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Post by Alisonfan on Fri Dec 12 2014, 10:04

fava wrote:Oh, George.  No capitalization or punctuation.  Pet peeve of mine.


It struck me too!  His style is very much like poster here  Suspect

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Post by Alisonfan on Fri Dec 12 2014, 10:06

LornaDoone wrote:Pascal's "...it's not a reflection of who I am..."

Well then, what were your racist comments about the President? 

A momentary lapse of judgement?  Or were they a way to ingratiate yourself with the ole Jewish boy who himself is clearly a mysogynistic, racist pig?

Fuck them both.

God the egos of these assholes who run Hollywood know no bounds.


Ditto LornaDoone well said!

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Post by Way2Old4Dis on Fri Dec 12 2014, 12:13

I'm sure there's a lot more to come. I don't know if the hacker group has released everything it took, but whatever the media got, I'm sure they'd go after the biggest names and most salacious communications first. So either this is the worst of it, or somebody's waiting for an opportune time... like something about George right before he gets the C B DeMille award at the Globes.

I can't see how George can't take Pascal to task about her President Obama comments. But Smokehouse has the movie deal and the new TV production deal with the studio, so his hands are kind of tied in dealing with them.

Rudin needs a good old-fashioned ass-kicking.

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Post by Way2Old4Dis on Fri Dec 12 2014, 14:26

Apologies all around, except to the President. And George is "rallying around" her.

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"I'm being proactive," the executive tells The Hollywood Reporter. "And I want to accept responsibility for these stupid, callous remarks."


Pascal said one of the first calls she made today — after a leaked email exchange between her and producer Scott Rudin became the most buzzed-about topics in town and throughout the country — was to Jackson.


"It was a very preliminary conversation, and we just talked about getting together and hoping to discuss a healing process," Pascal said. Of being labeled a racist, she added, "I know it's not true. And I know that doesn't reflect who I am or what I feel or what I've done. That certainly doesn't reflect this studio and what we've done here."
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The email exchange, which was part of documents that have been posted after a massive Sony hack, discussed how Pascal should handle a meeting with President Obama at a Jeffrey Katzenberg-hosted fundraiser in November 2013. Pascal and Rudin appeared to mock movies featuring black casts and gauge the president's possible interest in them.


"Would he like to finance some movies?" Rudin wrote, referring to the president. Pascal wrote back, "I doubt it. Should I ask him if he liked DJANGO?" Rudin responded with "12 YEARS," and Pascal volleyed back by listing other films starring African-Americans: "Or the butler. Or think like a man? [sic]." Rudin suggested that the president might especially like comedian Kevin Hart.


In the wake of the leak, speculation mounted that Pascal might be forced to step down, but she says she has the full support of her parent company, Sony Corp., and her bosses in Japan. "That is completely untrue," she said. "I still have the full support of the company."


She also has been receiving support from the community, with Aaron Sorkin and George Clooney rallying around her.


Pascal added: "I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy. You're being judged on things that you said in a 10-second frame that were stupid. And that's not my whole career and everything I've done. I'm concerned about that, but I'm also concerned about employees here who are being violated, and they're scared. They didn't do anything to deserve this. It's very unfair."
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As for Sharpton, she said he accepted her apologies. "He was very warm," she said. "I told him I'm coming to New York and will speak with him."


The relationship with Rudin appears to be salvageable. Despite emails that Pascal sent to a lieutenant demanding that Rudin be released from his contract with Sony, Pascal says he is still a producer with Sony.


"I talked to Scott [since all of these emails were leaked]," she said. "Scott feels equally bad. We both feel hideously embarrassed and disappointed in ourselves. He is still a producer at Sony. Everyone is reading through these emails and trying to decipher what's going on at the studio. I'm sure you've written emails that you wouldn't want other people trying to be figuring out."
Instead, Pascal is attempting to look forward, even if that means more damaging information is leaked. "They have a lot of info that they stole from our company," she said. "I have no idea what they will release. There's identity theft going on. It seems to have become focused on my emails. But that's hardly the most important thing that's happened. I think the conversation needs to switch to a conversation that a crime was committed, and that things have been stolen from our company that people are profiting from."


It's been more than two weeks since a group dubbed Guardians of Peace breached Sony's servers and took with them massive amounts of data. Pascal says there's no resolution in sight. She rejected the possibility of a connection between the hack and the movie The Interview, and insisted tonight's premiere would be "great."


"I don't know how close they are to solving the crime," she said. "I'm not thinking about that. I'm not talking about that. We have the right people investigating what happened. The thing I'm focusing on is the future."

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Post by LizzyNY on Fri Dec 12 2014, 15:26

Way2Old - I don't think George would go public on this considering his attachment to SONY. I do think he would probably approach Pascal personally and have a conversation about why what she said was stupid and how he warned her about being hacked. Can't you just see the grin on his face when he tells her "I told you so"! Very Happy

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Post by Donnamarie on Fri Dec 12 2014, 17:29

If George and Pascal are friends then I agree with LizzyNY. He would take her aside and talk to her. At this point I think she probably has learned a valuable lesson. It sounds from her quotes above she is sincerely sorry and she wants to make amends.

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Post by Joanna on Fri Dec 12 2014, 19:42

Donnamarie wrote:Wonder if anything will come out about George? Behind the scenes trash talking of him and his movies by these studio ingrates. His movies don't make big bucks and as well respected as he might be his box office draw is not what it used to be.   I'm sure there is so much more out there yet to be revealed.


I was thinking just that DonnaMarie.
As I was skimming through the above I kept expecting
to see the word Clooney in something.
Maybe George has been very very cautious.

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Post by Donnamarie on Fri Dec 12 2014, 20:06

I agree Joanna. I think he is pretty cautious. But that wouldn't stop the trash talking within Sony.

Someone on CNN said he didn't think Amy Pascal will keep her job. I have more of an issue with Rubin than I do with Pascal. Who knows. There was also a pic of Angie with Amy taken after all this came out. It was shown on the CNN broadcast. Angie looked pretty cool towards Pascal.

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Post by LizzyNY on Fri Dec 12 2014, 20:19

I doubt anyone's going to lose their jobs over this. People in the industry know this is just business-as-usual. Everyone trash talks - it's a power thing and a way to blow off steam. At the end of the day, though, it's a business. They have to work together, so they mend fences, get over it and move on - personal feelings aside.

I think they're more worried about the fact that SONY was hacked at all, and wondering if they might be next. There are probably a lot of Hollywood big shots cleaning up their e-mail as we speak and deleting away like crazy.

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Post by Way2Old4Dis on Fri Dec 12 2014, 20:25

Besides the pettiness, racism, and misogyny, Rudin called Megan Ellison "bipolar" as if that disqualified her from being competent... if it's even true.

For those who don't know, Megan Ellison inherited a bazillion dollars from her Oracle CEO dad, and is using it to produce movies, some very good ones.

Ellison deliberately stays out of the limelight. She doesn't do interviews, or go to parties -- or when she has to, she shows her face, talks politely, and leaves early -- and generally doesn't mix in the Hollywood scene. She also doesn't have to go hat-in-hand to the studios, or put up with their shit, when she wants to make a movie. I think that pisses Rudin off no end, considering the time he's put in and the groveling he still has to do.

There was absolutely no reason for him to slam her.

What. An. Ass.

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Post by party animal - not! on Fri Dec 12 2014, 20:50

Quite.


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“I would argue, as a former FBI guy, that when a nation state says that this group who doesn’t know who we are but did this on behalf of the North Korean people … and we appreciate it…As we would say in the FBI, ‘That is a clue’,” Rogers said this morning at a Christian Science Monitor breakfast in Washington.
The North Korean government has denied responsibility for the hack, which leaked reams of internal documents and took down Sony’s computer system, but called the action a “righteous deed,” Washington newspaper The Hill reported Rogers saying at the breakfast.


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North Korea has blasted Sony for moving ahead with its comedy The Interview, a comedy about a plot to assassinate North Korean leader Kim Jong Un. Rogers said he is “fairly confident” North Korea is responsible “given the public information.”
“We want to thank Amy Pascal for having the balls to make this movie,” Seth Rogen said Thursday night at the subdued world premiere of The Interview, which has been closely associated with the company’s hack attack.
The next morning, in Washington, Rogers said the Sony attack resembled the campaign, DarkSeoul, which hit banks and media companies across South Korea last year, but added new techniques. For instance, he thinks Sony hackers have maintained a backdoor into the computer network.
“So, by the time you get it back up, they can whack you again,” Rogers said, adding, “Sony is a game changer when it comes to cyber in the United States.”
The Interview was first conceived in 2011, the year Kim Jong Un succeeded his father as North Korea’s Supreme Leader. Sony gave it the go-ahead the following spring.

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Post by LornaDoone on Sat Dec 13 2014, 21:52

Well another reason I think George may be smart to stay off social media.

And these celebs taking naked selfies would do well to stop that crap too.  Anything sent to a cloud storage is potentially hackable.

If they don't want something out there the best way to stop it is to not participate and to not take the picture or send the email.

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Re: Hacked Sony E-mails

Post by LizzyNY on Sat Dec 13 2014, 22:56

Lorna - I totally agree about posting things to the cloud that should remain private, but the Sony hack is a different animal. We're all online constantly and are bound to say something stupid once in a while. Nobody should have to be afraid that every word they post will be publicized or scrutinized and turned around to make them look bad. How can you function that way?

I'm not defending Pascal or Rudin. They're idiots. But they are paying the price of public humiliation for something they assumed, and had a right to expect, was private. If this kind of hacking isn't stopped, none of us will feel safe using social media or the net.

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Post by melbert on Sun Dec 14 2014, 01:33

Here's an interesting post from The Daily Beast.  Includes an email from George about Monument's Men.

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Exclusive: Sony Emails Slam Leonardo DiCaprio, Willow and Jaden Smith, Gush Over Ryan Gosling

A cache of emails discovered by The Daily Beast reveals Sony execs trashing DiCaprio as well as Willow and Jaden Smith, George Clooney’s apology for The Monuments Men, and more.

And the hits just keep on coming. Two weeks into the destructive Sony hack, in which a group dubbed “Guardians of Peace” breached the company’s servers and leaked tons of private documents, ranging from social security numbers to their screeners of upcoming feature films, more information has been unearthed from the hundreds of thousands of stolen emails between Sony execs, film stars, and producers that have leaked online.

The latest batch of emails unearthed by The Daily Beast concerns several of the biggest names in Hollywood, including George Clooney, Ryan Gosling, Leonardo DiCaprio, and Will Smith’s clan.



A lengthy email exchange between Amy Pascal, co-chairman of Sony Pictures Entertainment, and Ilene Feldman, a talent manager who represents Ryan Gosling, details the exec and star’s lovey-dovey relationship. In an email dated October 3, 2014, Feldman wrote to Pascal: “Ryan absolutely loved you. Said it was like speed dating because he was late after hitting every wrong gate on the lot. Not it should turn to marriage. He really wants to do something with you.”


Pascal then forwarded the email to Michael De Luca, co-president of production for Columbia Pictures, asking what project(s) Gosling is interested in, to which De Luca replies, “It’s Ghostbusters according to Ilene.”

A subsequent email from Pascal to Hannah Minghella, the other co-president of production at Columbia, about Gosling and Paul Feig’s planned all-female Ghostbusters remake says, “There is one make [male] part paul is planning. How insane would that be… He also wants jennifer [Lawrence] and Emma [Stone].”

Another email that same day (October 3) from Pascal to Feldman about re: Gosling reveals that Sony was also interested in the hunky Canadian actor for Sinister Six and their Steve Jobs biopic, Jobs. “i wanted to talk to him about sinister and jobs,” wrote Pascal. “you tell me what ehe [sic] is interested in.”



But while Pascal seemed very high on Gosling, she wasn’t impressed by the behavior of Leonardo DiCaprio. An email exchange between Mark Gordon, producer of Jobs, and Pascal from September 18, 2014, saw the two lambasting DiCaprio over his decision to pull out of the Aaron Sorkin-penned biopic of the late Apple co-founder.

“Was this about the deal… or did he just change his mind,” wrote Gordon. “The latter,” replied Pascal. Then, Gordon replied with, “Horrible behavior,” which was echoed by Pascal, who responded, “Actually despicable.”

Sony execs also took shots at Willow and Jaden Smith, despite the latter’s success for Sony with his Karate Kid remake, and his father Will Smith’s long-standing relationship with the studio, which goes back to 1997’s Men in Black, and also includes box office smashes like Hitch, The Pursuit of Happyness, and Hancock.



An email from Tom Rothman, head of TriStar productions, to Pascal dated November 18, 2014, saw the exec forwarding along a link to the Smith kids’ out-there interview with T Magazine, along with the note: “1. Read this. 2. they r home schooled: don’t let this family date your movies!!!”



On a more sympathetic note, a lengthy email correspondence between Pascal and George Clooney over The Monuments Men reveals the filmmaker’s extreme anxiety for—and lack of confidence in—the project. In an email dated January 29, 2014, with the subject line “it’s getting worse,” Clooney wrote to Pascal, “I need some protection from all the reviews. Let’s just make it a hit. I haven’t slept in 30 hours. And it’s 7 am.” Pascal replied, “we will protect you by making money… that’s the best revenge.”

The following day, Clooney replied to Pascal and wrote the following: “I adore you Amy. You are literally the only person running a studio that loves film. I fear I’ve let you all down. Not my intention. I apologize. I’ve just lost touch… Who knew? Sorry. I won’t do it again.”

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Post by Way2Old4Dis on Sun Dec 14 2014, 02:14

Awwww, I had a feeling George was depressed and worried about MM. And here it is, in his own words.

"I've just lost touch." That's so sad. It's one movie, and it did well enough for everybody, and it did a lot of good.

I hope he's not embarrassed by this. He didn't blame anyone. He thanked someone who supported him. He didn't want to let anyone down. Hell, he apologized for making a movie that was merely good but not spectacular. I think it shows his integrity, his loyalty, and his basic good character.

But I feel so bad that he felt that way.


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Post by party animal - not! on Sun Dec 14 2014, 02:34

Totally agree, Way2. Me too

When you think of all those press junkets barely a week later. Thank goodness he was surrounded by friends..........

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Post by What Would He Say on Sun Dec 14 2014, 02:35

Nice words way2....he was in the eye of a self imposed storm...just couldn't see the wood for the trees....we have all been there. The more passion you put in, the more personal persecution you get to flog yourself with.

I saw it in his face at MM premier, I said over and over....nobody heard me.
He was troubled....I saw it, and could do nothing.....

That's gone now.  Time to....

In the words of a movie...."pick yourself up, dust yourself off and start all over again" Just Like the rest of us do.

If he wants to direct/do it all again, the only person to stop him ....will be him.



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Post by Way2Old4Dis on Sun Dec 14 2014, 02:39

party animal - not! wrote:Totally agree, Way2. Me too

When you think of all those press junkets barely a week later. Thank goodness he was surrounded by friends..........


Yep, and there was Amal, making him feel better about himself...

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Post by LizzyNY on Sun Dec 14 2014, 03:31

MM didn't do too badly financially and actually was a decent, if not spectacular, movie. It wasn't panned by all the critics and some of them even really liked it. It brought a lot of attention to an issue that had been forgotten, too. I wonder if George still feels the same about the movie now.

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Post by Way2Old4Dis on Sun Dec 14 2014, 03:56

I think that, despite George's playing down the expectations, he had very high hopes for it. Maybe not financially, but artistically and critically. That's kind of the reason anyone does those kinds of movies.

It more than broke even, so nobody lost money, and it went in the profit column. That's true of pretty much all of his movies. So that's not it. It was the less-than-stellar reaction to it. And since he co-wrote, acted in, and directed it, he feels responsible for it.

I'm sure that with some contemplation, he came back to the fact that there are no guarantees with movies. But it sure sounds like he was down on himself during that particular time.

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Post by Donnamarie on Sun Dec 14 2014, 04:50

God it was so sad to read "I've just lost touch" and "I fear I've let you all down". He was doing so much last year and this was his baby. It must have been so overwhelming for him. And he did feel so responsible for MM's success. It was all on him. I wonder when he realized that the film was just not working the way he envisioned? Way2, you're right. The way he handled it and thanked Amy for her support shows his integrity, loyalty and his solid character.

I've always wondered how George handles the pressure he puts on himself to do the best job he can. I've always felt that there is a darker side of him that maybe only those who are closest to him sees.

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Post by LizzyNY on Sun Dec 14 2014, 06:00

I've always felt that "darker side" was the reason for his ambition and the reason he works so hard. It seems he believes that failure is not an option, no matter what the cost - that he has to do everything well - or else. Maybe it comes from his competitive relationship with his father.

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Post by Sevens on Sun Dec 14 2014, 07:48

Poor George....
He recently said in Empire's Tomorrowland feature that 
he had to shoot Tomorrowland in the day and do MM at night.
Never thought he would lose sleep.
Come on, man! You will get that touch back in Hack Attack.


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Post by Sevens on Sun Dec 14 2014, 08:16

Maybe Amal supported him strongly during all that difficult and busy months. And she showed up more than once at the Tomorrowland sets and he stayed in London with her for a long time doing MM's post production. She also sneaked into the London premiere. He took her to the White House screening for this film and wore that shirt 
and made that video to support her cause. 
Perhaps that's why she won his heart and he decided to travel with her,
meet her family and soon he proposed. 
That's just the woman he's been waited for this long.

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Post by lionheart on Sun Dec 14 2014, 12:21

Cant imagine how heartbroken he must have felt when Leatherheads and The Good German didnt do well.

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Post by Joanna on Sun Dec 14 2014, 12:49

lionheart wrote:Cant imagine how heartbroken he must have felt when Leatherheads and The Good German didnt do well.


I'd imagine that being at least 6 years younger it wouldn't
become a major issue.
From my own experience, hitting 50 can present certain issues
that weren't there at a younger age.
That's why I believed that his early relationship
with Amal was going to end up to being "The One"

Sorry for my garbled grammar !

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