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Post by Nicky80 on Sun May 04 2014, 14:13

As we have now many new threads of Amal let's start with a general thread so we can post all "not so important" articles about Amal here and about her work in the work thread. And if there is an important article about her we still can post it in a separate thread in the Amal section.

Now here another article (found on frenchies) I know people were talking about if she might have a flat in central London or not. In this article the writer confirmed she has....The article is a mix of everything



Hollywood meets human rights;

Amal Alamuddin, George Clooney’s fiancee was in Manila last year. She is the daughter of my long time friend Al-Hayat Foreign Editor Baria Alamuddin whom I met in London when I lived there in exile.

She interviewed me on television about the Edsa revolution and we became friends ever since, often traveling between the Middle East and Southeast Asia and vice versa to keep a life-long friendship.

She was the last journalist to interview Indira Gandhi. But I will not run a catalogue on Baria’s accomplishments as a journalist because there are many. Just as I was writing this column, Baria emails me to add:

“I have always been very proud of my children Ziad, Samer, Tala and Amal. They brought me and Ramzi a lot of joy and happiness, and of course I am extremely proud of Amal’s academic and professional achievements, serving justice and humanity around the world. Remember what the famous Lebanese philosopher Gubran Khalil Jubran said in his famous book the Prophet (our children are the Children of the World)). P.S. Remember I gave this book to Cory Aquino when I met her in Malacanang Palace and you where there.”

We were mothers often talking about our daughters than our careers. Amal was the daughter she would talk to me about who was studying law in Oxford as Veronica was my daughter who had been in Cambridge, later hired by CNN in Atlanta and Hong Kong and now with Al-Jazeera.

* * *

That was way before anyone of us, even her mom, had any inkling that George Clooney, the lady killer and perennial bachelor from Hollywood, was dating and courting her. As her mom put it to me, she was shocked that I would even entertain such rumors. That was last year when I joined the PAL inaugural direct flight to London in November.

When in London, I stay in their house in the suburbs, in what was once Amal’s room when she was younger.

Anyway, the long and short of this introduction is that her mom and I had to pass by her flat in Central London and I had the occasion to chat with her. It is one of those serendipitous conversations. I had just read about former President GMA’s deteriorating health and being imprisoned without bail.

She told me about her work as a lawyer. Among them were Cambodia vs Thailand, a request for interpretation of the Judgment of 15 June 1962 in the case concerning the Temple of Preah Vihear. She also represented Cambodia in inter-state territorial claim (International Court of Justice, The Hague), Prosecutor vs Senussi and Gaddafi. Representing Abdallah Al Senussi, former Libyan intelligence chief, in case of alleged crimes against humanity (International Criminal Court, The Hague), Tymoshenko vs Ukraine, Representing Yulia Tymoshenko, former Ukrainian Prime Minister, in human rights claim (European Court of Human Rights, Strasbourg), Sweden vs Assange, representing Julian Assange, head of Wikileaks, in extradition proceedings (City of Westminster Magistrates’ Court, London) and United Nations Special Envoy Kofi Annan’s advisor on Syria, and previously offered counsel into the UN’s use of drones so on and so on. I was half asleep because of jetlag but when I heard her speak on the case of the former Ukrainian Prime Minister, I jumped up and said, gosh Amal, you are heaven sent. That is what I do, she says, even political enemies have rights when I told her about Arroyo’s case and if that can be brought before the UN Court, she said yes, of course if there is reason.

* * *
I went back to Manila and dismissed the conversation until an email from her came saying she was on her way to speak at the University of Singapore and she could pass by Manila. She stayed for one day and one night and we made the rounds of people and parties that night to give her an idea of what Manila life was like.

I gave a small dinner in my home with just close friends, among them the Lebanese honorary consul and his wife, Vicky Javier, Francis Manglapus, Ambassador Alberto Encomienda and the Vietnamese political attaché Cang. She met former President Fidel Ramos at the Chinese National Day and the American ambassador Harry Thomas at the wine museum owned by the Josephs. The next day we had lunch at former Speaker Jose P. de Venecia’s place.

By the time she was on her way to London she committed to help former President Arroyo by advising her on her rights under international law. This was not about power politics but about human rights and every individual was entitled to it, she said.

* * *

Even with such high profile clients it was the announcement of her engagement to George Clooney that made big news. I emailed her and said I would write an article on “Hollywood meets Human Rights.” For that is the beauty of the engagement between Amal Alamuddin, the human rights international lawyer and George Clooney. Whatever human rights case Amal will now handle would have the built-in publicity of being engaged to the Hollywood actor.

Clooney, however is not just an actor from Hollywood. He has also taken up advocacies for peace in Sudan and Syria. That is what brought them together in the first place. He was UN special messenger of peace for six years but has now resigned the job for professional reasons and other advocacies.

It was also reported that he had once worked to raise awareness about the displacement of millions in Darfur. How many know he was once arrested when he joined a protest in Sudan?

He co-founded the Satellite Sentinel Project, giving millions to raise awareness and document the “mass atrocities” taking place in the region.

“Retiring from his UN role will afford him the independence to move forward with this and other personal advocacy projects and activities,” a UN official said.

From Hollywood and the English tabloids the news was about her $750,000 engagement ring and the women who had been in George Clooney’s life. How does Hollywood square with human rights?

* * *

My answer: perfect. Amal will bring in the interest and the push needed in the world for human rights violations with George Clooney of Hollywood by her side.

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Post by theminis on Sun May 04 2014, 14:28

Thanks Nicky - good idea

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Post by party animal - not! on Sun May 04 2014, 15:12


I wonder if Amal has met Samantha Power yet, who's a good friend of Our Hero. My hunch is she has. Her twitter page is very interesting

@AmbassadorPower

So much on her plate. I wonder how she sleeps at night


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Post by sparkie on Sun May 04 2014, 15:33

With all the reports, stories and constant praising of Amal, two things come so very apparent.

1. It is starting to feel like that there is a almost fanatical desperation to keep    printing the stories about Amal and compare her to George's ex's, to the extent of ramming down our throats she is far superior to any of these ladies. Even alluding to her past or lack there of and at the same time insulting George's ex's, the fact is the ladies all worked regardless of what their occupation (don't get me started there). As for gold diggers, if they were, George provided the 'Mine and the Gold', a fact that seems to be missing from so many articles now.

2. Amal's mother is a journalist/reporter for the Arab Daily News with close ties, if not part of the UK Daily News. And guess which newspaper is leading the charge with these articles UK Daily News. Very interesting or am I being paranoid.

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Post by Katiedot on Sun May 04 2014, 15:48

With the best will in the world, there's nobody powerful enough to dictate the tone of an entire country's media.

This is simply slack journalism (well, let's face it, this is entertainment 'journalism' which hardly requires rigorous reporting) along an easy enough path.

When compared to George's many exes, Amal does shine. There have been so many rants on this very site about how his exes have made a living that I think it's a fairly common feeling to rate a lawyer (and she's not just any old lawyer but on her way to becoming one of the leading lawyers in the country) higher than a wrestler, waitress and so on.

It's unfair to all the women concerned, but I can kind of see where it's coming from.

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Re: Amal Alamuddin General Thread

Post by Nicky80 on Sun May 04 2014, 22:27

Clooney had better learn to mind his pleas


George Clooney is living proof that you can not only survive a strict Roman Catholic childhood but thrive. He has had more dates than the Julian calendar and the 40 or so other calendars combined. He even served as the altar boy at St Susanna School and went on to do such odd jobs as selling women's shoes (no-brainer, for him they queued around the corner) and cutting tobacco. He is the poster boy for all would-be, wannabe Rakes.


Many men live vicariously through him. His life and his successes as actor, writer, producer and political activist are ideals that thinking men should strive to follow. Every man I know could not believe his luck in pinning down WWE diva Stacy Keibler for more than three slaps of the referee's hand on the canvas. Clooney spent the best of two years with this leggy superstar wrestler. His sleeper hold is renowned to get any woman he wants.


Now George Clooney is in big trouble. He is marrying Amal Alamuddin, a practising barrister from London's Doughty Street Chambers, who has appeared in as many jurisdictions as Julian Assange has avoided. She has represented heavy-hitting clients like Enron and Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko. She practises in Europe and the US. Alamuddin is the counsel to the inquiry into the use of drones in counterterrorism operations. She advises Kofi Annan as special envoy to Syria. She has written specialist legal books on prohibited weapons. She is Lebanese. She won't buy Clooney's bullshit that he was playing cards with Matt Damon the other night when his phone ran out of battery.


Marrying a barrister with the intelligence and skills of Alamuddin will be the death of a ladies' man like Clooney. WWE wrestling is only make-believe wrestling, but appearing in criminal courts is real, and being cross-examined about your thoughts, whereabouts, alibis, platonic friends, extra phones, Google search history and "coffee stains" by a bulldog barrister with brains to burn will see Clooney back on his knees, begging to buy her shoes and giving up tobacco for good.


The life of a trial barrister such as Alamuddin is like living on the Mir space station. Everything else in the world does not matter. She will be totally focused on her case, and the only briefs Clooney to which will get close will be the ones she is reading at her work table, not in bed. She will snap his grey-haired head off if he dares interrupt her practising her opening address. Wordplay will no longer be a game of Scrabble, but a fight for ascension and power.


If he puts a foot or word wrong, he will be cross-examined to the point of exhaustion. She can have his laundry forensically examined at the snap of her highly polished fingers. Step out of line and he will know why barristers have heavy-duty hole punchers in their chambers.


The scenes in Gravity will be like a faraway dream on the night before a criminal case begins. Submissions may have meant something different when he was dating Stacy the Wrestler, but they will now mean that there will be no foreplay, one, two or three play, until these submissions are finished and filed.


She won the Jack J Katz memorial award at New York University's School of Law for entertainment law. She will be drafting his contracts from now on. Clooney will notice that his female co-stars will be getting older, plainer and fatter; that his on-set trailer will not have a bed or a card table, and a sign will be hung on the trailer door that forbids entry to anyone and everyone.


His vocabulary will start to include words like "infer", "whereas", "object" (but not as in "sexual object"), and "all-nighters" (not as a sexual romp, but its opposite: work).


Clooney's CV of dates includes every occupation listed in the Yellow Pages. He went out with part-time porn star Ginger Lynn Allen, and even, God forbid, a reality-show hostess, Sarah Larson. Clooney's work as humanitarian, activist and spokesman on human rights distinguishes him from many other Hollywood hams. He puts his considerable clout where it counts. However, in marrying Alamuddin, the question is not whether he has found a peer or an equal, but whether he has overreached and married above himself.


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Post by Joanna on Mon May 05 2014, 00:00

Charles Waterstreet must have a shiny new 
Sydney Crystal Ball to play with.

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Post by sparkie on Mon May 05 2014, 02:59

Katie you are correct, however these articles are doing Amal or George no great service at all.

However with all these stories about Amal ( I'm not lessening her accomplishments in any way) This is now becoming ' a modern day version of hanging the sheet out of the window after the wedding night'


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Post by Katiedot on Mon May 05 2014, 03:09

lol! Yup, can see where you're coming from sparkie.

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Post by party animal - not! on Mon May 05 2014, 14:07

Not sure if we have this. Don't want to duplcate



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Post by Nicky80 on Mon May 05 2014, 14:17

Thanks PAN, merged threads. 

Interesting, if you are the best friends of the mother and tell the world on twitter you will get exclusive stories that makes me wonder if you are really a friend LOL. Or she got the permission to post that who knows....

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Post by Joanna on Wed May 07 2014, 16:45

I have an enquiring mind so I have some
questions.....which I'll probably never know 
the answers to....however....

I wonder if Amal ever saw any of George's films 
before she knew him personally ?

Has she watched any of his films with him now ?
Apart from Monuments Men of course !

What would her opinion be of them ?

Would Michael Clayton be her favourite film ?

Or would she like Oh Brother best of all ?

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Post by Nicky80 on Wed May 07 2014, 17:14

Jo here the answers from a "secret source" LOL  Razz  Razz  Razz 

I wonder if Amal ever saw any of George's films 
before she knew him personally ? She saw the Ocean films

Has she watched any of his films with him now ? No too busy enjoying the vacation and talking about the wedding.
Apart from Monuments Men of course !

What would her opinion be of them ? She is giving her opinion after the wedding until all papers a signed to be on the save side 

Would Michael Clayton be her favourite film ? For sure but don't tell anyone

Or would she like Oh Brother best of all ? Still thinking about that.....

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Post by Joanna on Wed May 07 2014, 23:45

,
Nicky80 wrote:Jo here the answers from a "secret source" LOL  Razz  Razz  Razz 

I wonder if Amal ever saw any of George's films 
before she knew him personally ? She saw the Ocean films

Has she watched any of his films with him now ? No too busy enjoying the vacation and talking about the wedding.
Apart from Monuments Men of course !

What would her opinion be of them ? She is giving her opinion after the wedding until all papers a signed to be on the save side 

Would Michael Clayton be her favourite film ? For sure but don't tell anyone

Or would she like Oh Brother best of all ? Still thinking about that.....

 lol!



Oh thank you....thank you....I shall sleep well tonight now.    Thumbs up! 

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Post by jd68 on Thu May 08 2014, 10:42

I think Syriana would be her favorite film. Smile 

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Post by Joanna on Wed May 28 2014, 08:59

Thought this was a bit of fun for a dull Wednesday.


7 Reasons George Clooney and Amal Alamuddin should get married in South Africa

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While many have tried and failed to tame George Clooney, it seems Amal Alamuddin – a human rights lawyer 17 years his junior – is the one who finally did it.
Details about the actual “I dos” are tough to come by, but it’s rumoured to be a September ceremony. Will it be in South Africa? No, apparently the couple are considering a wedding at Downton Abbey. But here's why we think they should consider changing their minds and coming here.
1. We’ve got no paparazzi, unlike the obvious choices in the UK, US or Italy. And, hey, we're pretty cool when it comes to celebs, too: we won't hound them or scream at their guests and line the streets. Nah… we reserve that kind of adoration for our own heros (you know, like Desmond Tutu).
2. Did someone say Desmond Tutu? How cool would it be to have your wedding officiated by the one-and-only arch?
3. It’s cheap to travel here – especially if you’re converting from Dollars, Euros and Pounds! And, let's face it, they're both going to have to haul their friends and family from all across the globe. That isn't cheap.
3. We’re super-friendly but in a nice way. (Sorry Parisians – you may have the city of love, but you’re known for being sweet). We're just, like, you know: "Morning, George!" and "Love that dress, Amal!" and then we'll move on.
4. Our legacy kind of goes with what they're all about. George has worked with Unicef, the World Food Programme, Make Poverty History and he founded a charity to stop human rights atrocities in the Darfur region of Sudan. She's a lawyer with a huge passion for human rights. And us? We're just the nation founded by Nelson Mandela, trying our best to uphold the spirit of uBuntu. Come on, guys: we're a match made in humanitarian heaven.
5. It's beautiful here. No, seriously: bea-u-ti-ful. Just watch this:



6. There are 101 venues to choose from. For top wedding destination suggestions, we turned to 94.5 KFM and TV personality Liezel van der Westhuizen. Her recommendations? Romantic and rustic, with a focus on either a beach setting or a wine farm. 
 
Groot Constantia – go Dutch at South Africa’s oldest wine farm. The oak trees in Spring are lovely.
Strandkombuis in Yzerfontein for a private beach wedding under a marquee. Dreamy!
Lanzerac Wine Estate – a Stellenbosch institution since 1962. Grand opulence on demand.
Vrede En Lust – Nestled in the foothills of the Simonsberg mountains, near historic wine area Franschhoek.
La Petite Dauphine – a 5-star wine farm, also in Franschhoek. This area is famous for both its wine and its gourmet cuisine. You will eat like kings!

Groot Constantia – go Dutch at the South Africa’s oldest wine farm.... more 
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If you want something really, really grand (and really, really out of reach of the public), may we humbly suggest renting out the top of Table Mountain?


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Table Mountain. That's for rent – right? Meh, for George Clooney it is.

7. There are loads of great honeymoon options in the area. If you want to stick around Cape Town, a tour up the Garden Route is always a winner: five-star stops in Plettenberg Bay, Knysna and Wilderness. Sigh, can we come? (Jokes. We won't bother you. Promise.)
Then there are the luxury lodges surrounding Kruger National Park. (Safari honeymoon: very sexy.) Try Thornybush (where Edith Venter got married) and Sabi Sabi’s Earth Lodge – we know you guys like your ‘green living’.

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Post by lionheart on Wed May 28 2014, 17:31

They should get married in his hometown, imo. Then reception in London and Dubai.  Wedding 

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Post by bgarabedian on Sun Jun 29 2014, 08:43

I also believe amal is a more serious type, not a real fun type, and it is hard for her to smile. I guess she is getting used to the cameras following her around and george is the funny one who likes pranks and fun. i call them the odd couple, but who knows odd couple are odd together. ha ha love you george. bg

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Post by annemarie on Sun Jun 29 2014, 11:29

I think Amal has a sense of humor , I don't feel we see her enough to know what she is like a few pictures here and there don't tell you all about someone. I do think she and George are a good match she is serious is he  at times light hearted which can be good for them both. I don't think George was in love with Stacy she was fun and they both had a good time.  I believe he met Amal at the time he was ready to marry and she ticked all the right boxes for him.

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Post by Nicky80 on Fri Jul 04 2014, 09:26

moved all posts about Amal and George and wedding to the thread below

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Post by LornaDoone on Tue Jul 08 2014, 03:15


Israel calls up reservists as rockets fly


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updated 9:11 PM EDT, Mon July 7, 2014


Jerusalem (CNN) -- Rockets flew between Israel and Hamas as tensions in the region continue their upward climb.

Hamas security sources reported at least 30 Israeli airstrikes across Gaza on Monday night into Tuesday. According to medical sources, nine people were injured.

"Operation Protective Edge is underway. Targeting #Hamas capabilities that are terrorizing #Israel," Israel Defense Forces spokesman Lt. Col. Peter Lerner tweeted.

The position of the IDF has changed, the spokesman said at an earlier news briefing. Last week they were focused on de-escalation, but now Israel is preparing for a possible deterioration of the situation, he said.
Lerner said the IDF has already called up several hundred reservists and is prepared to add 1,500 more. During the last offensive on Gaza in November 2012, 30,000 reservists were called up.

Eight Palestinian militants were killed in more than 25 Israeli airstrikes and 39 rocket attacks across Gaza on Sunday night into Monday, said Ashraf Al-Qidra, a spokesman for the Health Ministry in Gaza. At least 15 people were injured, he said.

CNN originally reported nine killed but the death toll was lowered because one man believed to have been killed in a tunnel in Rafah was found to be alive and in critical condition.

"The enemy has crossed the red lines and will be made to pay the price for its crimes," Mushir Al-Masri, a Hamas leadership figure and member of the Palestinian parliament, wrote on his Facebook page. "The blood of our martyrs is precious ... and is fuel for the intifada and the resistance."

After that statement, 70 rockets were fired from Gaza into Israel, with Hamas claiming responsibility.

Israeli air raid sirens were heard near Yavne in central Israel as militants in Gaza stepped up their attacks. At least one person was wounded by shrapnel in Ashdod, according to Israeli rescuer services.

In another tweet, Lerner said that all summer camps, kindergartens and schools within a roughly 25 mile (40 kilometer) radius of Gaza have been forbidden because of the threat of rockets.

Suspects questioned
The escalation of military action comes after the slaying of a Palestinian teenager, which was perhaps an act of retaliation for the killing of three Israeli teens earlier.
Israeli police have questioned six suspects about what they did "before and during the murder" of the Palestinian teen who was abducted and burned to death, Israeli police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said.

Naftali Schwartzburger, the lawyer of one of the six suspects, said on CNN affiliate Israeli Channel 2 on Monday that Israeli police conducted re-enactments of the killing of Mohammed Abu Khedair.

The fallout from the slayings might damage Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's political future.

Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman, head of Yisrael Beiteinu party, said in a press conference Monday that he told Netanyahu of his intention to dissolve his party's joint faction with Netanyahu's Likud party, saying it was "not working." Lieberman criticized Netanyahu's handling of Gaza.

Netanyahu on Monday spoke with the father of the Palestinian teenager who was burned alive in Jerusalem last week, expressing shock at what he called an "abhorrent" murder.

As anger continues to boil over the death of 16-year-old Abu Khedair, Netanyahu talked by phone with Hussein Abu Khedair, telling him that the killers will be brought to trial and "will be dealt with to the fullest extent of the law."

Police have said there is a "strong indication" the attackers may have been motivated by a desire for revenge over the deaths of the three Israeli teenagers, whose bodies were found a week ago in a field in the West Bank.

"Israel stands thoroughly against this. We promised to investigate. We promised to bring the perpetrators of that crime to justice and guess what? We delivered. We've done exactly that," said Mark Regev, spokesman for Netanyahu.

The teen's father said later Monday that he did not recall speaking with the Prime Minister.

"I was up until 5 a.m. this morning and tried to go to sleep around then," Hussein Abu Khedair said. "Around 7 or 7:30, I started getting phone calls from many Hebrew speaking people. I was tired and could not make out what or who I spoke to. I can't recall speaking to Netanyahu."

In a region that has experienced decades of fighting and mistrust, the past week's events have still managed to shock -- and to further embitter relations between Israelis and Palestinians.

Israeli police also announced Sunday a confession in the killing of a Jewish Israeli teen a month ago. Shelly Dadon, 19, was kidnapped and stabbed to death by an Arab Israeli taxi driver, who has now provided details of the killing, according to Rosenfeld.


'Stop this disgusting cycle of violence'


Meanwhile, the Abu Khedair family is irate over the treatment by Israeli police of one of the burning victim's cousins, an American high school student.

Relatives say Tariq Abu Khdeir, a 15-year-old high school sophomore from Florida, was beaten while being detained amid protests over his cousin's death. (The American branch of the family uses a different spelling of the family surname.)

Khdeir, who was in Jerusalem to visit family during his summer vacation, was released on bail Sunday. The magistrate court ordered that he stay under house arrest for nine days at a relative's house in a different neighborhood from the family home.

"We're extremely concerned that he's under house arrest right now without really facing any legitimate charges that have been made public, and that those who beat him apparently are walking free," his family attorney said Monday, speaking from Florida.

Senior State Department officials told CNN that the United States was instrumental in securing the release of the youth.

Senior officials in the Obama administration said they were shocked at two videos in which Khdeir was seen being held down and pummeled by men in the uniform of Israeli security forces, the officials said.

The officials said they expect Tariq will be able to return home to Florida with his family in the next few weeks.

Israeli authorities say Khdeir was part of a group of youths who attacked police.
"From what I understand about the facts of the case, this is not just an innocent bystander who was pulled off of a schoolyard," Israel's ambassador to the United States, Ron Dermer, told "Fox News Sunday." "He was with six other people. They were masked. They threw petrol bombs and Molotov cocktails at our police. Three of them had knives. ... That does not excuse any excessive use of force, and our Justice Ministry is opening an investigation."

But State Department officials questioned Dermer's remarks.

"They are investigating whether he was throwing rocks," another senior State Department official said. "Even if he was, the question is, was this the right response to that? Obviously we don't think so."

Regev, Netanyahu's spokesman, agreed.

"This is no excuse for this sort of behavior and we're currently investigating it. It's not the police investigating themselves. We've initiated an impartial, objective, independent inquiry into exactly what happened," he said.

'Demolish their houses'

Abu Khedair's mother, Suha, said she wants equal justice for the people who abducted him in the early morning as he was heading from his home to a mosque for prayers. He died after being burned alive and hit on the head with a blunt object, authorities say.

"If they sentence them and demolish their houses and give them life sentences, it might satisfy me a little," Suha Abu Khedair said.

The Israeli military destroyed the homes of the two main suspects in the killings of the three Israeli teenagers. Those suspects are still at large.

Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas has called on the United Nations to set up an international investigation into recent crimes against Palestinian people, including the killing of Abu Khedair, the Palestinian state news agency WAFA reported.

Officials from both sides have called for restraint amid fears that the cycle of horrific violence could continue.


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Ok this is what has had me concerned about George and his relationship with Amal.

Tensions between Israel and Hamas are escalating.  Amal is Pro Palestine.

What will be George's stance?  There's no middle ground here.  If he sides with Amal and Palestine will it affect his relationships (friendships and business wise) in Hollywood?

I have a friend who was Jewish who married a Muslim Egyptian before the first Iraq war.

When the war started the tensions in their home became so bad that her husband actually threatened to kill her father.  He became very irate and his hatred of Israel came out with a vengeance.

I'm sure there are Israelis and Jewish people in THIS country who also hate Palestinians with the same furor.

George's career (and perhaps his friendships) could seriously be affected by all this.

I know it will depend on what is said publicly but all this cannot be good.

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And I did mean to say that of course, it's much worse for those fighting, being bombed and dying. I'm not discounting that at all - but this conflict has been going on for decades and I don't see any end in sight.


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Post by Maggy on Tue Jul 08 2014, 04:24

You are right, Lorna.

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Post by Maggy on Tue Jul 08 2014, 04:26

Right about the "no end".

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Post by LizzyNY on Tue Jul 08 2014, 04:45

Lorna - Many of us share your concerns. I think George will have to tread carefully with his friends and colleagues as the Middle East/Israeli topic is very volatile - not just because of the Jewish community's affinity for Israel, but because of the terror threat towards the US (and the entire western world) that emanate from the area.

If Amal is seen as a lawyer who is trying to fix the legal systems in the area, she may get a pass but if she comes off as partisan, or seems to favor any group that is anti-US, she will be a problem for him.

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Post by jd68 on Wed Jul 09 2014, 15:38

I am sure they have plenty of other things to discuss than the Israel/Palestine conflict. One can be pro-Palestine without being pro-Hamas, as well as violence by either side. She may be a human rights lawyer but I don't think anyone really cares what her opinion is on the matter.

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Post by annemarie on Wed Jul 09 2014, 15:54

I think they are both adults with their own views , 
George has his opinion and she has hers. Just like in any other marriage they will work it out. I don't think George would marry anyone who had feelings that were to far off his own.

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Post by sparkie on Sun Jul 27 2014, 04:38

Okay I have put on my flak jacket so here goes.

Amal with all her academics achievements has no life skills (mature people will understand what I mean) she has spent almost all of her adult life educating herself an admirable quality but intelligence does not equate to common sense.

While I believe that George and Amal do genuinely care for each other I also believe that this is in part an arranged marriage Amal has led a very sheltered life and it is not out of the realm of impossibility that she would sign up for this, I was crucified months ago for stating this but I stand by what I said then arranged marriages are common in her culture and home country (don't call me racist it is a fact) and now especially in light of what has been slowly coming out about Amal and her family has done nothing to persuade me otherwise. This has and is a very calculated move by all parties on both side very very carefully stage managed and scripted.

Theminis just read in the Sunday Paper a small excerpt of 'Australia's Hardest Prison' in relation to Bilal Skaf and his brother Mahmoud and I have no doubt that if Amal was in Australia she would have defended them.

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Post by Cece42 on Sun Jul 27 2014, 05:08

I just read this and it seems to fit, "It is a thousand times better to have common sense without education than have education without common sense." Just saying.

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Post by sparkie on Sun Jul 27 2014, 05:35

Cece42 wrote:I just read this and it seems to fit, "It is a thousand times better to have common sense without education than have education without common sense." Just saying.
So true, many people equate education with intelligence and spend their whole lives studying and obtaining degrees, but most of those people would not even know how to tie their own shoe laces.

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Post by melbert on Sun Jul 27 2014, 05:53

That's why they invented Velcro Sparkie so the intelligent people don't need to learn how to tie their own shoes.  hahahahaha

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Post by sparkie on Sun Jul 27 2014, 06:31

melbert wrote:That's why they invented Velcro Sparkie so the intelligent people don't need to learn how to tie their own shoes.  hahahahaha
So when Amal stepped out a few weeks ago with no shoe laces or velcro she was either

A.   Intelligent
B.   Genius
C.   Lazy
D.   Stupid

All or none of the above

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Post by Cece42 on Sun Jul 27 2014, 06:48

Isn't it a shame that they would have to depend on VELCRO instead of being able to tie their own shoelaces, not saying much for them.

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Post by Nicky80 on Sun Jul 27 2014, 10:41

What is VELCRO?

Is it this?

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Post by sparkie on Sun Jul 27 2014, 11:46

Nicky80 wrote:What is VELCRO?

Is it this?

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Post by sparkie on Sun Jul 27 2014, 11:47

Nicky80 wrote:What is VELCRO?

Is it this?

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Post by sparkie on Sun Jul 27 2014, 11:49

oops

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Post by / on Sun Jul 27 2014, 14:25

I've haven't followed the whole conversation but Sparkie, what do you mean by arranged? Aren't arranged marriages normally within the religious community? And how do you know Amal has led a sheltered life?

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Post by fava on Sun Jul 27 2014, 17:59

sparkie wrote:Okay I have put on my flak jacket so here goes.

Amal with all her academics achievements has no life skills (mature people will understand what I mean) she has spent almost all of her adult life educating herself an admirable quality but intelligence does not equate to common sense.

While I believe that George and Amal do genuinely care for each other I also believe that this is in part an arranged marriage Amal has led a very sheltered life and it is not out of the realm of impossibility that she would sign up for this, I was crucified months ago for stating this but I stand by what I said then arranged marriages are common in her culture and home country (don't call me racist it is a fact) and now especially in light of what has been slowly coming out about Amal and her family has done nothing to persuade me otherwise. This has and is a very calculated move by all parties on both side very very carefully stage managed and scripted.

Theminis just read in the Sunday Paper a small excerpt of 'Australia's Hardest Prison' in relation to Bilal Skaf and his brother Mahmoud and I have no doubt that if Amal was in Australia she would have defended them.
Are you seriously saying that the practice of law (including a clerkship with a judge and several years at a top tier US law firm) leaves her with no life skills?  How about negotiating, writing, analysis of facts and law, interviewing, public speaking and advocacy, etc. etc.   Also, if you think being an associate at Sullivan & Cromwell is "sheltered" I invite you to visit that cut throat world and it does not surprise me she did not stay there.  Most don't.  

If by "life skills" you mean other than professional skills, I do not believe we know if she can cook, do her own laundry, set up her own computer,ride a bicycle, drive, baby sit, or anything else.  I do not know why you assume the negative without any evidence. 

I think you (or any of us) have no way of knowing if she has  any common sense.  Law degrees and an extended education do not preclude having common sense.  Being a cashier, or a stay at home mom or any other profession do not mean you are blessed with common sense either.

I do not know if arranged marriages are common in Amal's culture as you claim. Since her dad apparently married out of his faith, it does not seem to me her parents marriage was "arranged." And Amal is only 1/2 of the equation.  I don't think George is from a culture where arranged marriages are common.  What is in it for him under your scenario?

I have no desire to be an apologist for Amal. I don't know enough about her to like her or dislike her.  Having a great education seems to me to speak well of her rather than the opposite.  But I think there are a lot of assumptions out there that have no basis in anything but speculation and a seeming desire to portray her in the negative for no real reason (with the possible exception of objections to some of her clients) other than that she has George Clooney.

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Post by party animal - not! on Sun Jul 27 2014, 18:50

Well said, Fava.

Oh, and just in case anyone wasn't aware, Doughty Street Chambers are unusual in that half of the cases they take on are supported by legal aid i e the defendants in many cases do not have any money, but if this particular Chambers thinks that their case is justified, they will take their case without payment. They take on more than most...........unusual for a Chambers of this high standing.....

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Post by LornaDoone on Sun Jul 27 2014, 22:43

A college education tells employers that you are trainable.

I've seen "educated" people who have no common sense and I've seen non-educated people also with no common sense and vice versa.

If I have a choice, I'd take an uneducated person with common sense over an educated one without because too often I have found common sense more important to get through day-to-day life.

That being said, I've also gotten the impression that Amal has led a sheltered life. 

I don't know it's just how it seems to me.  It might be erroneous since as fava pointed out we really don't know that much about her.

She seems like a nice girl, who has studied a lot and has spent most of her time in more cerebral pursuits.  It's not like we've seen tons of pictures of her out partying or hitting the clubs.  And I doubt she has had to deal with many negatives in her life.

So in that sense I do think she is less worldly than George.  What I mean by that is that although she has probably dealt with dregs of the earth in her legal work I just don't see her as having had any hardships or hard knocks herself.

George on the other hand had done drugs, hard drugs, fucked just about anything he wanted, partied hard, had successes, had failures and had a childhood that at times was comfortable but often times was not.

His parents comments about moving before the rent was due tells me a lot about George's life.  Amal seems to have gone to upper crust schools and never had to worry about whether the rent would get paid.  So that's how I'm looking at her to describe her being sheltered.

My impression of her is that she's never wanted for anything and I often wonder about people like that should the going get tough, how she would react.

But that's really George's problem right?

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Post by party animal - not! on Mon Jul 28 2014, 00:00

Yep, Lorna.

Definltely agree about his folks, although they had Rosemary's experience and contacts, which gave her nephew to a start.

Amal didn't exactly go to an upper crust or fee paying school, but her parents wisely bought a house in an area where the state schools were of a high standard, (we all try to do that) and the school she got into was an academic girls high school with a limited number of places. And given that her father and grandmother are/were academics it's not surprising she went that way too. But I understand that that could seen as sheltered and less worldly.

I think they'll both learn a lot!

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Post by Cece42 on Mon Jul 28 2014, 00:58

@ Lorna  I have to agree with you on every thing you said on this topic.

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Post by Alisonfan on Mon Jul 28 2014, 01:43

We simply don't know what her life was like before George,  she may be more street smart than you imagine.
Her mother worked in the media/pr, I doubt she had a sheltered life.
Amal had a large twitter following 30k plus, which she took down a few days after the Berners Tavern photo's.  Was that love or confidence. (BTW, Berners, where an onlooker described her as flirting madly with him).  
I am getting the feeling that she is not a wallflower, or sheltered.

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Post by party animal - not! on Mon Jul 28 2014, 02:26

Well whoever it was being quoted about the flirting didn't know that this wasn't their first meeting, did they? According to most reports this all started in September, and some say it was when she was travelling with Kofi Annan.........

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Post by melbert on Mon Jul 28 2014, 02:32

I said a long time ago that they probably met when George hosted Kofi at Como.  I remember Elisabetta saying she was thrilled to meet him.

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Post by party animal - not! on Mon Jul 28 2014, 02:39

Can you remember which year that was, Mel? I'm not sure Amal was working as his legal council then.......got the impression it might have been in New York and something to do with the Syrian situation.

Worth noting maybe that Annan was in Vancouver last October.......

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Post by melbert on Mon Jul 28 2014, 03:39

Could be PAN.  I just remember Elisabetta making that comment.  I don't know when Amal worked for Mr. Annan.

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Post by LizzyNY on Mon Jul 28 2014, 03:40

Guys, does it really matter at this point when they met? It's a done deal, however it happened.

I think some of you are basing your opinion of her "sheltered" life on when she was much younger. She's 36 for pete's sake - not a child. She lived in NY while going to NYU, and that will grow you up really fast. Since then she's been working and traveling all over the world, meeting all kinds of people. I seriously doubt that she's in any way naive or sheltered now, no matter how she may have been raised.

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Post by sparkie on Mon Jul 28 2014, 05:32

E.C. wrote:I've haven't followed the whole conversation but Sparkie, what do you mean by arranged? Aren't arranged marriages normally within the religious community? And how do you know Amal has led a sheltered life?
Arranged Marriages can cover many aspects:

Reasons for Arranged Marriages

Cultural
Religion
Financial
Political
Heirs
Credibility
Family
Debt
Sold

I am not saying that it is an arranged marriage I said was it so far out of the realm on possibility that she would accept an arrangement of some sort. And that they would/could both benefit from it.

Amal           International Recognition for her work, Prestige, Fame and Money

George        No more wash rinse repeat jokes, stops the question When Are You Getting Married Again George something which                    seemed to irk him no end. Rumours.

On a side note just to pacify a few with their knickers in a knot. From everything that I have heard about arranged marriages they have a higher percentage of success rate than non arranged ones.

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Post by LornaDoone on Mon Jul 28 2014, 05:39

LizzyNY wrote:Guys, does it really matter at this point when they met? It's a done deal, however it happened.

I think some of you are basing your opinion of her "sheltered" life on when she was much younger. She's 36 for pete's sake - not a child. She lived in NY while going to NYU, and that will grow you up really fast. Since then she's been working and traveling all over the world, meeting all kinds of people. I seriously doubt that she's in any way naive or sheltered now, no matter how she may have been raised.

Again, this is all conjecture neither you nor I know her personally and we're basing our opinions on observation.  so what I say may not be fact but please Lizzy what you say may not be fact either.

Just because she lived in NYC doesn't mean she wasn't sheltered even then so as sparkie says, no need to get your knickers in a twist.

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