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Post by ****** on Tue Feb 11 2014, 17:01

How can a man like George Clooney is involved with a woman like that? the pictures say it all! Unbelievable!

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Post by LornaDoone on Tue Feb 11 2014, 22:14

Deborah Reis wrote:How can a man like George Clooney is involved with a woman like that? the pictures say it all! Unbelievable!

Well yes, and then there was that - the *cough* exposed-crotch-on-a-motorcycle *cough* photo.

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Post by theminis on Wed Feb 12 2014, 00:10

Yes * cough cough * guess George likes them that way

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Post by mosaic on Wed Feb 12 2014, 01:29

Well, if he liked them that way, I would think he would still be with her, wouldn't he?

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Post by theminis on Wed Feb 12 2014, 02:27

Not necessarily, think George also likes a bit of variety too..

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Post by party animal - not! on Wed Feb 12 2014, 03:01

Yes, I think so too, and seeing him in London tonight, I get the impression that he's totally happy with the lifestyle he's chosen...

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Post by ... on Wed Feb 12 2014, 09:35

"lifestyle he's chosen" -

if you're basing on last night in London where you saw him totally happy well, maybe he's happy right now because he's single. At least, according to his publicity.  
Plus he's had the most successful film promotion campaigns in recent months, than he ever did while parading the repeat-pattern, interchangeable girlfriends.

I guess he liked these empty meaningless, dispensable flings with certain types.  Mid-life crisis issues? Or fear of commitment?
Maybe he likes women with vulgar photos of crotch exposure, pornography, lingerie wrestling, allegations of drug use by prostitutes, whatever, etc.
As teenage boys do too.

Or...as a humanitarian celebrity ....perhaps he may want to add emotional tonality for the sake of his female followers. This way, he thinks everything changes..... no depression. Chooses girls with casual faces, because exactly they are mass-consumer. Beauty is oppressive, to some people...(Out of their own insecurities   I dunno)
He may date ordinary looking women as comfort to the mass-consumer.
Except adding the shock value vulgarity common in so many of his ...variety.  And young enough to be his children. SL, EC, SK....

Just an hypothesis.
His choice & his business...But as an image-conscious public figure....well...

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Post by Boshkash on Wed Feb 12 2014, 09:41

Or THAT'S what he thinks "he DESERVES" ...our choices are who we are remember..

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Post by watching on Wed Feb 12 2014, 10:06

Ocean - just my two cents worth.

That is what he likes and has been his repeated choice for the past decade or two. The internet has just made it more obvious and reported on. I can't think that this is a midlife crisis because it would be done by now - this is want he wants, when he wants it. And if he can look himself in the eye in the mirror and be ok with his choices, then that is all that should matter. I know I would not like someone else to be the one who has control over my moral and ethically compass. I think that is for the person to decide. If he can sleep at night then he is most likely living his life to the morals, standards and beliefs that he believes in.

George's fanbase is so established that his love life is not going to hurt him professionally. Maybe if he was still trying to get the heartthrob roles or be a part of a comic book franchise. But that isn't what he seems to want to do. The women who love him as a movie star are not teenagers. They are from the ER days, the Oceans films and those who enjoyed Up in the Air (which was not a teen-centric film). Blokes of all ages still want to be him and are willing to sit through his films. If he threw a Mel Gibson or Chris Brown, he would come out of it damaged and there would be impact but that this stage - with his own career, an Oscar, directing and producing credits, his own company to make films and acting in interesting films that aren't solely about opening weekend box office - he is pretty much Teflon in the business. If Fox hasn't been able to damage him after going after him for over a decade due to his political beliefs, I think his is pretty safe unless he self-destructs or self-sabotages in a major way.

George's love life is used a punch line yet he is still working. No one in Hollywood seems to be shunning him for his personal choices romantically. He is able to get financing for the projects he wants to make. He is able to do the aid / social issues work without too much backlash. He has multi million dollar endorsements that keep getting extended. Directors are still wanting to work with him.  George is in on the joke. You can't shame someone if they are laughing along with the joke and acknowledge it.

Really he isn't going to change his spots any time soon. This works for him so he does it. He is upfront and open about it. None of the women have ever really claimed ignorance on his position on marriage or long term relationships. They all pretty much speak well of him. He is living his life the way he wants. If that means some people choose to boycott his projects - so be it. Me, I prefer it to be over something more tangible than some actor with a preference for party girl types with dubious modelling careers that seem to only involve photos being taken when they are part or fully naked. I won't see a Woody Allen or Roman Polinski film due to their illegal behaviour. I am not watching the winter olypmics because of the host country's position on gay rights. Some actor with a preference for D list wannabes doesn't bleep my radar (but that is just me).

If he has become a joke to you, that's cool. It is just your personal tolerance for him has gone out the window. I feel the same way about Josh Brolin. Sometimes you just outgrow them. Doesn't mean the actor is having a midlife crisis - you have just set your personal standards to a level that they are unable to reach. There is nothing wrong with that as that is your choice in respect to your life and how you want to spend your time and who you wish to support. But Hollywood, his fanbase, endorsers, women willing to date him haven't gotten to that point yet. And they may never do. Sure he gets called out now and then but in the grand scheme of things, I don't think he is about to do a 180 and conform to a standard generic relationship for the sake of being the lead in a film. If it all stopped tomorrow, he would have enough money in the bank to do whatever and he has the skills and goodwill as a director, write & producer to always have the option to work behind the scenes if he so wanted. So I can't see an impetus for him to make any changes to his lifestyle.

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Post by Pari on Wed Feb 12 2014, 10:20

party animal - not! wrote:Yes, I think so too, and seeing him in London tonight, I get the impression that he's totally happy with the lifestyle he's chosen...

watching wrote:...

Really he isn't going to change his spots any time soon. This works for him so he does it. He is upfront and open about it.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA I didn't have to go tooo far or wait long for examples... Sorry party-animal-not; watching; ... just a few examples of George's "taunting Monsters"... YES, one can find such examples on many of George's boards... and NOPE... it is not about any of you/us as persons at all Smile... but, it is about a THEME... a "Monster" that we pump up / fleshen up / enlarge... unconsciously perhaps... and continue...

... like that Monster ought to live forever or something... Smile

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Post by Pari on Wed Feb 12 2014, 10:30

Deborah Reis wrote:How can a man like George Clooney is involved with a woman like that? the pictures say it all! Unbelievable!

"... with a woman like that?..." Smile Why Deborah... why not? A relationship can happen between any TWO PERSONS, for as long as it was REAL between them (which we don't have details about?)...

And some person is going to say that of anyone George dates... "... with a woman like that?..." Yea RIGHT!! Smile

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Post by watching on Wed Feb 12 2014, 11:13

Sorry, what is the monster connection??

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Post by party animal - not! on Wed Feb 12 2014, 11:14

Mmm, as a former PR manager, I was wondering that...........

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Post by mosaic on Wed Feb 12 2014, 11:46

Ocean wrote:"lifestyle he's chosen" -

if you're basing on last night in London where you saw him totally happy well, maybe he's happy right now because he's single. At least, according to his publicity.  
Plus he's had the most successful film promotion campaigns in recent months, than he ever did while parading the repeat-pattern, interchangeable girlfriends.

I guess he liked these empty meaningless, dispensable flings with certain types.  Mid-life crisis issues? Or fear of commitment?
Maybe he likes women with vulgar photos of crotch exposure, pornography, lingerie wrestling, allegations of drug use by prostitutes, whatever, etc.
As teenage boys do too.

Or...as a humanitarian celebrity ....perhaps he may want to add emotional tonality for the sake of his female followers. This way, he thinks everything changes..... no depression. Chooses girls with casual faces, because exactly they are mass-consumer. Beauty is oppressive, to some people...(Out of their own insecurities   I dunno)
He may date ordinary looking women as comfort to the mass-consumer.
Except adding the shock value vulgarity common in so many of his ...variety.  And young enough to be his children. SL, EC, SK....

Just an hypothesis.
His choice & his business...But as an image-conscious public figure....well...

Wow. I don't think George is that shallow. I think he is more compassionate than he comes across--it's not an act. He genuinely cares about the world.

I don't think he necessarily cares what people think of his love life.

As far as crotch shots, that would be on the women, wouldn't it? Unless you think George controls everything they do? Or perhaps encourages them to expose themselves? Then, yeah, that would creep me out.

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Post by Pari on Wed Feb 12 2014, 12:36

watching wrote:Sorry, what is the monster connection??

"Voices"... sorry watching+party-animal-not... I have explained it a bit on Julia Robert's thread... the recent one... they are basically voices for an unknown that we can either create / grow... Smile

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Post by theminis on Wed Feb 12 2014, 12:56

Watching - as usual, right on the money, beautifully put.

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Post by ... on Wed Feb 12 2014, 13:39

watching wrote: Sure he gets called out now and then but in the grand scheme of things, I don't think he is about to do a 180 and conform to a standard generic relationship for the sake of being the lead in a film. If it all stopped tomorrow, he would have enough money in the bank to do whatever and he has the skills and goodwill as a director, write & producer to always have the option to work behind the scenes if he so wanted. So I can't see an impetus for him to make any changes to his lifestyle.

No, God forbid there should be an impetus to change the carefully crafted public image.    affraid   Too much money at stake, the studio system & other advisors would remind him.   Still has mileage. Signed up to this; must conform....Gentle coercion...full on persuasion...he'd be constantly reminded of the onus of being a money-making commodity. He signed up to it afterall.....Domino effect.

Yes....these past decade "joke" flings are his public image types. Let's not forget the private ones too.  Oh, and the rather conservative, clean image  ex-wife.  
But now he's still rendered a middle-aged studhorse machismo joke....
Of course he wouldn't deceive the public with fake relationships which are just platonic arrangements? Never mind what Krista Allen was Tweeting about new speculation.

We're to assume virile sex symbol George is still going strong in his mid-50s.  Same ol' PR strategy.
"When you're on a win-win, stick to it," his PR & management probably advise.
Yes, they don't want him to change his spots.  Too risk averse to lose their vested interest, should any image change effect him.  Surely he'll conform willingly.

Emotional nudge constant reminder: "you signed up for this..."  Slight digression & there may be a possible disruption to profit targets...
Possible & MORE THAN LIKELY gains with an image reinvention too, but those who generate profit off brand George Clooney  are not about to gamble any earning potential losses with a drastic image change if say, hypothetically, he would want it.
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Post by Katiedot on Wed Feb 12 2014, 13:44

Ah, bullshit. George Clooney has been dating "these kind of women" for well over two decades now. Started off with strippers and porn star Ginger Lynn in the 90s.

I know how you love to imagine George is being coerced into doing what he's doing, but he's been up to it for way too long for that to have any basis in reality.

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Post by ... on Wed Feb 12 2014, 13:57

Joint decision. He & his advisory team.
But seeing how miserable he usually looked in many photos with the last two girlfriends & how much more relaxed he has been promoting Gravity & MM, it's easy to deduce that it is showbiz and NOT totally genuine.

If he's a joke about his dating, as watching wrote, how much of his legacy is taken seriously?
Can't have an interpersonal connection?
Maybe he doesn't want one. Sure.


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Post by Rachel on Wed Feb 12 2014, 14:32

Katiedot wrote:Ah, bullshit.  George Clooney has been dating "these kind of women" for well over two decades now.  Started off with strippers and porn star Ginger Lynn in the 90s.  

I know how you love to imagine George is being coerced into doing what he's doing, but he's been up to it for way too long for that to have any basis in reality.

This is a joke isn't it - I can't believe he dated Ginger Lynn. I googled her and the pictures I got are really nasty...

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Post by LornaDoone on Wed Feb 12 2014, 15:00

Didn't you find the picture of him with Ginger Lynn?  I could have sworn I saw one - once.

Anyhoo...

I can see that his PR team would want him to keep the status quo since they DO make their money off of him.

But I don't think they have the influence that you, Ocean, want to give them.  If George is dating these gals it's because he wants to date them.

I personally think he has lousy taste in that regard but that's on him.  The gal's and their crotch shots, of course, that was their decision (except if you want to believe Krista that her soft porn years were due to being controlled and coerced by the guy she was dating/seeing/married to) - can't remember the actual connection but do remember she blamed HIM for her decisions in making those films.

My issue has nothing to do with how it affects his film/Hollywood career.  My issue has always been in connection to his humanitarian work.  But I won't bore anyone with that AGAIN.

It's just something I believe.  I don't disagree that he cares, I just sometimes wonder if when these actors throw themselves into charitable efforts if part of it isn't to cleanse the sleaze parts of their image.

For example, Sean Penn.  I think he's a total sleaze and I doubt Charlize is going to change that -but hey that's her issue - I think it will be just a matter of time before she figures it out.  But I see all his efforts in Haiti (as much as they are lauded) as a way for HIM to cleanse himself either for his image or in his own mind, for all the other shit he's done in his life.  

And at times, George's participation in his humanitarian efforts smacks me as the same.

I agree, he's teflon in Hollywood, I just don't always feel comfortable with his personal choices and then his statements regarding his humanitarian work.  My expectation is for a fuller package - someone who can date just decent gals (who as I've said over and over) I can't Google and find crotch shots.

But others have said, maybe that's all he thinks he deserves and I've resigned myself to George's choices since as we all know, no one is perfect

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Post by Boshkash on Wed Feb 12 2014, 15:18

Oh GOD!! Not this circle again... Do you KNOW who CLOONEY is?? He is a two times Oscar winner, an Oscar nominations record-breaker, a messenger of peace, someone whom Obama showed up in the middle of elections to get him to be guest on Ellen, someone who was thanked by the Greek minister for a couple of words he said lately, and finally all the humanitarian work he does and all the people he got involved, to come here and read some of his so called fans thinking that the women whom he sees are what matters in the world, I am not as concerned as you are about him since I only for his work, but this is silly, really silly, I am sure that three quarters of the people who know Clooney doesn't know who he sees and who is his last girlfriend..

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Post by mosaic on Wed Feb 12 2014, 15:29

I was reeeaally hoping that you were joking, but I looked her up, too, and found this:

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It's pretty sad that she is bragging about being in the porn industry for 27 years.

I don't know what to say about George.  I would like to think that this was a long time ago and he has matured beyond the teenage boy mindset.  

And, in my view, it doesn't take away from his compassion and philanthropy---Only if he were like Bill Clinton or Woody Allen would it shed a different light.  Or a different darkness, I should say.

ocean wrote: on Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:57 am
But seeing how miserable he usually looked in many photos with the last two girlfriends & how much more relaxed he has been promoting Gravity & MM, it's easy to deduce that it is showbiz and NOT totally genuine.

He does look more relaxed and happier. Perhaps he has turned a corner....

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Post by mosaic on Wed Feb 12 2014, 15:37

...and as an afterthought thrown in--personally, I think porn, for my generation, has ruined so many relationships. I'm the same age as George and it just seems men of my age have no clue of how to be truly intimate with a woman....it is as if they learned all they needed to know about women through porn, making it impossible for them to connect on a spiritual level.

Just my two cents.

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Post by it's me on Wed Feb 12 2014, 15:57

I fear this is sadly true for today teenagers :/
less for G's age men IMO

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Post by ktsue2002 on Wed Feb 12 2014, 20:42

Did I miss something? Why are we talking about Sarah Larson. No doubt she was beautiful, but isn't she part of his ancient past now?

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Post by LornaDoone on Wed Feb 12 2014, 21:01

Boshkash wrote:Oh GOD!! Not this circle again... Do you KNOW who CLOONEY is?? He is a two times Oscar winner, an Oscar nominations record-breaker, a messenger of peace, someone whom Obama showed up in the middle of elections to get him to be guest on Ellen, someone who was thanked by the Greek minister for a couple of words he said lately, and finally all the humanitarian work he does and all the people he got involved, to come here and read some of his so called fans thinking that the women whom he sees are what matters in the world, I am not as concerned as you are about him since I only for his work, but this is silly, really silly, I am sure that three quarters of the people who know Clooney doesn't know who he sees and who is his last girlfriend..  

You have your opinion and I have mine. It's all good since none of us is ever going to date him anyway. My points are just as valid as yours in the scheme of things which is they don't mean a hill of beans to him.

Your support of him and my issues with him make no difference.

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Post by LornaDoone on Wed Feb 12 2014, 21:03

Deborah Reis wrote:How can a man like George Clooney is involved with a woman like that? the pictures say it all! Unbelievable!

This is why we're talking about Sarah Larson again. Deborah opened up the can of worms. brahahaha! But hey it's made for lively discussion! :-)

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Post by it's me on Wed Feb 12 2014, 21:06

nah
his current one love is
Dujarden


look at Paris premiere pics  Shocked 

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Post by ... on Thu Feb 13 2014, 00:21

Well, DuJardin is very handsome.
Plus he beat him at the Oscars...
But, nah, his one true love is and always has been himself.
The ego....

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Post by ... on Thu Feb 13 2014, 01:17

Further to my comments & agreeing with some of LornaDoone's, I don't think people generally care who someone dates, but in the case of celebrities & public figures, they're exposed to scrutiny.
Take the scathing media remarks on Michelle Obama at the time of the Airforce One shorts photos, in 2009.  And that was pretty casual. But she still got criticized: "not fit for a First Lady."

Now any woman George Clooney is dating is also going to be observed & criticized. Obviously not so intensely like The First Lady, but general public will research her name online.

Matt Damon's wife keeps a low profile. Just a supporting role beside him. No info about her online about her past. Clean slate. She smoothly blends in the background when he's required to be photographed alone. Great teamwork.
Much more respectable.
Of course, they're in love. So it's real.

So in the case of the embarrassing, porn & sleaze plain Z-types George selects, people are force-fed exposure to these sordid, tasteless photos.  Or embarrassing stories.  Even children and teenagers! His new audiences.

It may not effect his Hollywood A-list status. Just soils his image & the public's conscious.
Viewing sleazy images that can never be concealed despite all the PR whitewashing.
Images that perhaps the public who enjoy his films & applaud his humanitarian, work would otherwise prefer to never have seen.
So, in that regard, his "choice" consistent with his carefully crafted image can be damaging & unnecessarily unpalatable.

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Post by LornaDoone on Thu Feb 13 2014, 02:20

Nah, I don't think George loves himself.

But I do think he really, really likes himself! Ha!

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Post by party animal - not! on Thu Feb 13 2014, 02:26

I think his conversation with David Letterman, starting with Letterman's 'We don't see enough of each other' said it all......

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Post by theminis on Thu Feb 13 2014, 02:30

LornaDoone wrote:Nah, I don't think George loves himself.

But I do think he really, really likes himself!  Ha!

PMSL

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Post by Katiedot on Thu Feb 13 2014, 04:47

Rachel wrote:This is a joke isn't it - I can't believe he dated Ginger Lynn. I googled her and the pictures I got are really nasty...
Nope, no joke. Although I think 'dated' might be overstating things a bit. They were together for a while way back then.

mosaic wrote: And, in my view, it doesn't take away from his compassion and philanthropy
Totally agree.

ocean wrote:But seeing how miserable he usually looked in many photos with the last two girlfriends & how much more relaxed he has been promoting Gravity & MM, it's easy to deduce that it is showbiz and NOT totally genuine.
I think you're just seeing what you want to see, same as previous fans have done. For example, the ones who hated Lisa Snowdon all also pointed out how much happier he looked on a red carpet without her than with her. You'd have to go right back to Celine Balitran in the late 90s to see pictures of George looking consistently happy with a woman on his arm but you can find pics of him looking relaxed by himself on the red carpet at all stages of his life.

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Post by Pari on Thu Feb 13 2014, 06:21

Katiedot wrote:Ah, bullshit.  George Clooney has been dating "these kind of women" for well over two decades now.  Started off with strippers and porn star Ginger Lynn in the 90s.  

I know how you love to imagine George is being coerced into doing what he's doing, but he's been up to it for way too long for that to have any basis in reality.

Oh WOW!!  Another example of the "taunting Monster"... Na Katie not YOU... but that Monster that we use!! Smile The Monster of his past... "He has been doing that for the last 20 years... like a leopard, he cannot change his spots!"... or some such thing... George's past that easily gets pulled out to be plastered all over him, especially WHEN he wants change from that... It is almost like saying... "Na!! George cannot change from that to DIFFERENT!"... "He is NAILED there!"... "Na... it is better to be on the SAFE SIDE and... put him back into the reality that IS his past!" Smile

I hope you are reading me right dear people... the worst danger will be to hurt his Team and PR especially as his new movie is out... NOPE!!  That is NOT my intention... and I apologize for any "hard/wrong/rough feelings" already Smile

Redemption!!  THAT is what we must be after... which means then, that we've got to HOPE for change... WORK for that change... support/believe that that change is possible... and cajole the first steps towards that... even a small one, as has happened with "The Monuments Men" ought to be praised... It has been good... the all men's parade has been so... refreshing Smile

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Post by Pari on Thu Feb 13 2014, 06:43

Ocean wrote:...

Now any woman George Clooney is dating is also going to be observed & criticized. ...

Matt Damon's wife keeps a low profile. Just a supporting role beside him. No info about her online about her past. Clean slate. She smoothly blends in the background when he's required to be photographed alone. Great teamwork.
Much more respectable.
Of course, they're in love. So it's real.
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It may not effect his Hollywood A-list status. Just soils his image & the public's conscious.
Viewing sleazy images that can never be concealed despite all the PR whitewashing.
Images that perhaps the public who enjoy his films & applaud his humanitarian, work would otherwise prefer to never have seen.
So, in that regard, his "choice" consistent with his carefully crafted image can be damaging & unnecessarily unpalatable.

Ha Ocean... FEAR about George's image more than substance, is more like it!  George HAS SUBSTANCE too... if only he believed! Smile Matt sure loves his wife (Oh yes, he MARRIED her, loves her, honours her, protects her... all visible too) That he relies on his substance as a person/artiste is something that is ALSO fairly readable from his public outings... His image has been grown/moulded very differently from George's... and cannot be compared... George's moulding began from different grounds, the output is where we are now... but again, sometimes we are left with NO TIME to go back to change the foundation... as much as either rebuild or re-work on the structure over it...

IF George's image was not "carefully crafted"... there will really be NO FEAR about it falling like a bunch of cards... Na? Smile IF George relied more on his substance and less on his fears... Ha ideal!! Smile It is the crafting that needs more crafting  I love you

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Post by Pari on Thu Feb 13 2014, 06:51

Ocean wrote:...
So, in that regard, his "choice" consistent with his carefully crafted image can be damaging & unnecessarily unpalatable.

That is a "taunting Monster" too Ocean... Smile

Oh and WHY CAN'T George's spousal-partner be DIFFERENT from the moulds that already exist?? Smile... because OF HIS FEAR / Team's fears (??!!)... that she COULD be "damaging and unnecessarily unpalatable" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA because George being with her is for his fans / for his Team / for "all of THEM" / for "all THE OTHERS"... not for himself?! Smile Perhaps that is the difference that SHOWS ultimately... Smile Matt / Brad / Grant / scores of them... and George...? Na? Smile

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Post by Pari on Thu Feb 13 2014, 07:01

LornaDoone wrote:Nah, I don't think George loves himself.

But I do think he really, really likes himself!  Ha!

He most probably has an image of himself that he loves... Smile
(There!! I became one "taunting Monster" HAHAHAHAHAHA)


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Post by Pari on Thu Feb 13 2014, 07:17

mosaic wrote:...and as an afterthought thrown in--personally, I think porn, for my generation, has ruined so many relationships.  I'm the same age as George and it just seems men of my age have no clue of how to be truly intimate with a woman....it is as if they learned all they needed to know about women through porn, making it impossible for them to connect on a spiritual level.

Just my two cents.

Thanks for that video with Ginger Lynn mosaic... sure yes, there will always be different forms of entertainment... and it ideally depends on where one is, to vouch for the right / wrong path or even recommend it for the others... Ginger and a whole world out there, believe that they are right! Smile That they have contributed in some way to the upliftment of mankind from sadness... in their own ways, with their own reasoning etc... and then we have from them a big fat industry with lot many $$$ supporting/living out of them... where many might even term them as a "success" / "legend" etc... You are saying, "generations ruined?... relationships ruined?" Na... it is the $$$ that count for some...  Sad   Sad   Sad

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Post by watching on Thu Feb 13 2014, 08:35

Ocean wrote:Joint decision. He & his advisory team.
But seeing how miserable he usually looked in many photos with the last two girlfriends & how much more relaxed he has been promoting Gravity & MM, it's easy to deduce that it is showbiz and NOT totally genuine.

If he's a joke about his dating, as watching wrote, how much of his legacy is taken seriously?
Can't have an interpersonal connection?
Maybe he doesn't want one. Sure.


I don't know if he is more miserable with the girls than when he is single. I think when he is flying solo at events he can be Mr Hollywood and everyone's buddy for the night. When he has a steady, there would be a certain amount of responsible on his shoulders to ensure they are ok, not harassed by fans or press and also not behaving in a way that may make paint him in a negative light. I would assume to attend one of these events on the arm of one of the most recognisable men on the planet would be stressful and it isn't like these women were in similar situations before him or have prior experience with this level of attention and demand. I would hope any decent man (scratch that - person) would be protective of someone they chose to being to their event and would ensure they were ok.

Maybe that is why is why he looks the way he does when there is a girl on his arm - he isn't the type to dump them off on Stan once he has gotten all the PR out of them that he can. I would think he would take their welfare due to his celebrity reasonably seriously. The difference is that it requires that he think not just about himself for that event but someone else. He can't just go off and do as he pleases  with whoever.

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Post by LornaDoone on Thu Feb 13 2014, 08:54

Pari wrote:
Katiedot wrote:Ah, bullshit.  George Clooney has been dating "these kind of women" for well over two decades now.  Started off with strippers and porn star Ginger Lynn in the 90s.  

I know how you love to imagine George is being coerced into doing what he's doing, but he's been up to it for way too long for that to have any basis in reality.

Oh WOW!!  Another example of the "taunting Monster"... Na Katie not YOU... but that Monster that we use!! Smile The Monster of his past... "He has been doing that for the last 20 years... like a leopard, he cannot change his spots!"... or some such thing... George's past that easily gets pulled out to be plastered all over him, especially WHEN he wants change from that... It is almost like saying... "Na!! George cannot change from that to DIFFERENT!"... "He is NAILED there!"... "Na... it is better to be on the SAFE SIDE and... put him back into the reality that IS his past!" Smile

Pari you constant optimist you....

George has been making the same choice, over and over for years. I am of the opinion that he does NOT want to change. Why should he? Bottom line it works for him no matter what any of us think.

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Post by theminis on Thu Feb 13 2014, 10:52

To semi quote Dr Phil - the best predictor of future behaviour is to look at the past -

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Post by ... on Thu Feb 13 2014, 10:53

lornadoone wrote:Pari you constant optimist you....

George has been making the same choice, over and over for years.  I am of the opinion that he does NOT want to change.  Why should he?  Bottom line it works for him no matter what any of us think.
Ah, but Pari's beliefs may sound idealistic, but there are beautiful sentiments in them.

"George has been making the same choice for 12 years (slave to studio system?? Or own volition)". sarcasm 

You'd think he & his advisory team would realize it's wise to STEER THE IMAGE IN A MORE POSITIVE LIVING PATH at 53.  Instead of looking miserable & unbalanced standing beside sleaze factor sordid image women.  BORING THE PUBLIC'S CONSCIENCE AND RENDERING HIM A JOKE while he tries to appear that he's serious about his SSP & other philanthropic work.  Or not taking his films seriously.
Evening Standard yesterday even called MM a comedy.... Rolling Eyes 

A WORN OUT REPETITIVE PUBLIC IMAGE...
His advisors must be really desperately  trying to "gently" persuade him to continue the bullshit PR fauxmances. Employing all kinds of cohersion....

An balanced image that reflects his altruistic benevolent beliefs & one that would actually make him look & feel genuinely happy, would be ideal.

Maybe mosaic is right, "he's turned a new corner." Hence mega successful premiere campaigns: Gravity & MM.

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Post by theminis on Thu Feb 13 2014, 11:13

Ocean - re your quote below - what kind of coercion  do you think that his advisors are employing here - you can't be serious.  

A WORN OUT REPETITIVE PUBLIC IMAGE...
His advisors must be really desperately  trying to "gently" persuade him to continue the bullshit PR fauxmances. Employing all kinds of cohersion....
Oh, the fear of living his life altruistically.

One that would actually make him look happy & feel genuinely happy. You have no clue how George feels - really

Maybe mosaic is right, "he's turned a new corner." Hence mega successful premiere campaigns: Gravity & MM.

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Post by Pari on Thu Feb 13 2014, 11:26

Aaaaaw thanks Lorna; Ocean; watching; theminis; Katie... ALL you ladies/gentlemen (if there are any)...  I love you  ... so there goes Smile I throw my hands up... curl in a corner... sing my heart and soul out... right UPTO HIM, my Creator and yours... so every one, including George and Teams, will all have a sweet+loving, beautiful+miraculous VALENTINES...  santa hugs


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Post by ... on Thu Feb 13 2014, 11:27

I'd say his advisors suggest more exposure of his supposed romantic life.
Given the amount of ridiculous stories in the gossip tabloids and mind-stimulating shows like TMZ, etc that were bombarding the public in the last 5-6 years, it's so obvious that there is a desperate PR network feeding baloney about George's private life.
Almost as if it's a side business.

So the coercion factor would be an obvious assumption given the desperate gossip media stories frequency in recent years.

Looking miserable??? Most photo-ops seemingly appearing casual paparazzi intrusions (oh, how tactfully, strategically planned) show him looking glum next to the "girlfriends." Tolerant at best. Laughing genuinely with the boys (his buddies). Even Amy Poehler got more action in terms of affection at last year's Academy Awards than Stacy Keibler or EC did during their two year stints.

People aren't stupid & buying fake.   They may not mostly pay attention, but most detect bullshit PR stunts. Hence the gay innuendo.

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Post by ... on Thu Feb 13 2014, 11:46

IMO, George Clooney has never really intensely loved any woman romantically. Not like Matt loves his wife.

George projects the aging playboy image. The worn out cliche. Maybe he feels it's like a security blanket for fear of strong bonds & connections that come with emotional maturity.

His PR team must really want to preserve that.
George may never have found a woman he loves enough. Or he decided to let her go. Sacrifice it. No trust...etc

If so, he would feel inner pain at times because people cannot control these feelings.

Anyway, he may fantasize about a true love. I dunno
I guess his PR  would allow him to indulge the fantasy during his "unattached" periods.
Then they'd apply the pressure to have his romantic life on public display for the sake of BRAND GEORGE CLOONEY...they would advise.

Hence, if a non-existent love life due to no serious relationship, they would find a temporary void filler as a public relationship. And hope he can tolerate her.
So predictably transparent...

Perhaps they're searching & shortlisting desperately at present for someone to propose to him.
In due course...

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Post by theminis on Thu Feb 13 2014, 11:51

Sorry Ocean I just can't listen to that same old broken record anymore about George's publicists controlling his very happiness - in my opinion since you shared yours, its not plausible to the extent that you think.

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Post by ... on Thu Feb 13 2014, 12:05

The broken record is the repeat pattern, boring mendacity of his public dating.
The  sleaze where young children or respectable adults Google who Mr Clooney is dating, only to regurgitate their last meal exposed to trashy images of porn or simulated violence. Children exposed to porn.
Might be a more suitable PR image for a young whippersnapper like Justin Bieber to try....lol!

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