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Post by Mazy on Sun Jan 19 2014, 23:54

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In Ukraine Protests Over New Laws, Sticks and Stones Meet Tear Gas
By ANDREW E. KRAMERJAN. 19, 2014


Protests in Kiev Turn Violent
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Protesters attacked the police with sticks and threw firecrackers at them, while the officers responded with tear gas during a rally in Kiev, Ukraine, on Sunday.

MOSCOW — A large rally in Kiev, Ukraine, that was called in part to protest a new set of laws cracking down on public protests turned violent on Sunday when men in balaclavas attacked the police with sticks and threw firecrackers and cobblestones at them.

The police responded with tear gas. By early evening, at least one police van was burning on a central street in the city, and witnesses said people had been injured, though it was unclear how severely.

The violence appeared to be the worst in at least a month for the continuing protest movement in Ukraine, and it signified a deepening of the political crisis in the country, the most populous former Soviet state beside Russia.

Protests began in November, after the government of President Viktor F. Yanukovich declined to sign a sweeping free-trade agreement with the European Union. He later negotiated a financial aid package from Russia.

The fighting broke out on a side street leading to the Verkhovnaya Rada, or Parliament, and near Independence Square, which has been the center of the protests.

Protesters clashed with the police near government buildings in Kiev on Sunday. Gleb Garanich/Reuters

In speeches on the square, opposition leaders denounced the participants in the melee as provocateurs and said they did not represent the aspirations of the peaceful protesters. But the leaders were also powerless to stop the fighting.

By midnight, the streets were a scene of utter mayhem. Those fighting the police struck them with lengths of pipes and sticks, and hurled cobblestones the size of soccer balls into their midst. They sent fireworks whistling and sparking into their ranks, and threw what appeared to be Molotov cocktails, blossoming into fire when they struck. The police stumbled backward, patting at their clothes as flames burned their metal shields.

The riot police sprayed from a water cannon, in spite of the freezing temperatures. Gazeta.ru, a Russian news portal, reported that 70 police officers were wounded and 40 hospitalized.

The rally against the new laws enacted on Thursday drew tens of thousands of people, a smaller crowd than at the peak of the protest movement in December but larger than on recent weekends. Since November, protesters have occupied the square and several buildings, including City Hall.

Protesters shielded themselves while launching fireworks at riot police in Kiev on Sunday. Oleg Petrasiuk/European Pressphoto Agency

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Protesters said they were angered by laws seen as circumscribing the rights of public assembly.

The laws stiffened the penalties for setting up tents and stages in public spaces. They banned wearing helmets and balaclavas, a tactic of the opposition activists to protect themselves against the police, identification or arrest.
In defiance, many demonstrators showed up wearing upside-down kitchen kettles on their heads.
For their part, the movement’s leaders have struggled to formulate a response to the laws.

Demonstrators armed with clubs tried to break through a police blockade and storm the Ukrainian Parliament on Sunday. Alexey Furman/European Pressphoto Agency

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Arseniy P. Yatsenyuk, one of the main protest organizers, announced a plan to form a shadow Parliament, government and Kiev city administration that would operate under the laws of a 2004 Constitution that Mr. Yanukovich had amended — illegally, the opposition says.

Late Sunday, Mr. Yatsenyuk, speaking from the stage on the square, said he had received a call from Mr. Yanukovich saying the government was ready for negotiations.

Vitali Klitschko, the leader of Punch, a political party, and a former heavyweight boxing champion, told the crowd that he was “announcing a snap presidential election,” though the parliamentary opposition has no legal grounds to force a vote if Mr. Yanukovich does not resign.

This inability of the leaders to force political change under the current Constitution or consolidate around a single leader in spite of clear popular support for their antigovernment agenda in the capital became a precipitating cause of the violence on Sunday.

A leader of a group of protesters who arrived in a column of cars, a movement called Auto Maidan, after the name of the square, took the stage and said the opposition should choose one leader, and if it could not, the crowd should march on Parliament.

Mr. Yatsenyuk called this speech a provocation to violence. But some in the crowd acted anyway, moving toward Parliament and clashing with riot police officers.

After the fighting began, Mr. Yatsenyuk, speaking from the stage on the square, called on protesters to refrain from violence and denounced those who were fighting the police, saying they did not represent the opposition.

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Post by chiki on Tue Jan 21 2014, 09:41

As always, months of demonstrations, peaceful demonstrations, but it's now when they get the world's attention. I've seen more news from Ukraine in the last 3 days that the last 3 years.  

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Post by Mazy on Tue Jan 21 2014, 20:37

21 January 2014 Last updated at 13:36 ET
Russia's Sergei Lavrov: Ukraine getting 'out of control'

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Protesters continued to maintain a presence at the road leading to the Ukrainian parliament after a second night of clashes

Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has warned that protests in Ukraine are "getting out of control".

He described violent clashes between anti-government protesters and police as "scary" and accused EU politicians of stirring up the situation.

Tuesday saw an uneasy standoff on the street of the capital after a second consecutive night of clashes.

Young men threw fireworks and petrol bombs at police guarding the road leading up to the Ukrainian parliament.

Police beat some protesters.

Protesters have been camped out in Kiev since late November, angered by the government's turn to Moscow and its rejection of a planned treaty with the EU.

New anti-protest laws, hastily passed by parliament last week, will come into force on Wednesday.

It is vital to note that this battle, though restricted at the moment, may only be the beginning.

The conflict could move beyond its isolated location, especially if authorities decide to crack down on the movement, as they now are threatening to do.

With the clashes - which represent not only an escalation in the protest movement, but are also the worst in Ukraine's post-Soviet history - the country's political deadlock has moved even further into uncharted waters.

Mr Lavrov's warning came after Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych on Monday said the violence threatened the country's stability.

'Indecent'
"Members of several European governments rushed to the Maidan without any invitation and took part in anti-government demonstrations," Mr Lavrov said, referring to the square in which protesters have been encamped.

"This is simply indecent."

He did not name names, but EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton and the then German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle visited the protesters in December.

Warning that the "situation is getting out of control", Mr Lavrov added: "We have information that much of this is being stimulated from abroad," and condemned the violence as a "complete violation of European standards of behaviour".

Clashes continued throughout Monday night, with police using tear gas and stun grenades against several hundred young men who ranged against them. At times, thousands of people cheered from the sidelines.

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There was a lull in the violence on Tuesday morning but fears the violence could erupt anew later in the day

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A charred bus in the city centre was an indication of the unrest of the previous nights


Eighty police have been admitted to hospital following the recent clashes, says Ukraine's interior ministry.

It says 32 protesters have been arrested, of whom 13 could face up to 15 years in jail for creating "mass disturbances", local media reported.

On Tuesday morning, lines of riot police still held the road leading up to parliament, behind burnt-out buses and barricades, reports the BBC's Daniel Sandford in Kiev.

Some people could be seen cleaning up the protest area, while others shouted and banged metal canisters.

'Paid thugs'

The violence has been restricted to a small area around Hrushevskyy Street, close to the main protest encampment at Maidan (or Independence Square), with most of the rest of the city functioning normally, say correspondents.

People standing near the fighting reported receiving a text message shortly after midnight on Tuesday, which said: "Dear subscriber, you are registered as a participant in a unsanctioned rally."

Mobile phone operator KievStar denied sending the messages and it is unclear who did.

Meanwhile, peaceful protesters have blamed a little-known far-right group, Right Sector, for carrying out the violence.

Former boxing champion and opposition figure Vitali Klitschko has also accused the government of paying thugs nicknamed "titushki" to delegitimise the protests and create a pretext for the imposition of a state of emergency.

Russia's foreign minister: Moscow does not want to "put oil on the fire"

BBC Russian spoke to several suspected "titushki" detained by the opposition activists.

One, a student called Nikolai Ignatenko, said: "We weren't told anything about what to do. We stood by the metro and waited. They gave us hammers - that's all".

Artyom Nemchenko, a college student, said he had done it for money after seeing an offer online, and that they had been instructed to "stir up trouble".

The new protest laws prescribe jail terms for anyone blockading public buildings, and ban the wearing of masks or helmets at demonstrations.

They also outlaw unauthorised tents in public areas.
Talks mooted between President Yanukovych and opposition leaders failed to materialise; instead their deputies met on Monday.

Lesya Orobets, an MP for the Fatherland opposition party, said the talks "showed almost no result", and called for a high-ranking foreign mediator to oversee the talks.

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Protesters on Monday night put together their own improvised armoured outfits in order to confront police

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A makeshift catapult built by protesters was later dismantled by police


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The protesters are demanding the resignation of President Yanukovych and early elections

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Post by ... on Thu Jan 23 2014, 00:01

More chaos. Violence escalating.
Kiev turned into a warzone. 29 photos at link.

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Post by LornaDoone on Thu Jan 23 2014, 05:00

Not to make light of a very serious situation but the guy with the colander on his head is just too surreal and even more so because I was writing a comedy sketch a few nights ago that included a person using a colander on their head to protect themselves from falling objects.

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Post by Carla97 on Thu Jan 23 2014, 12:22

Agree 100% with chiki!

Worsening by the day. Sad sight.

Aside ideology or politics and rioting.

What seems to be buried under them is a thing called economic reality. 3 key figures to illustrate a bigger picture, from a balance sheet standpoint as a fact:

The EU debt to GDP ratio 92.2%
Russia's debt to GDP ratio 9%
For the comparison, USA´s dept to GDP ratio 212 %

Guaranteed: no western politician will touch this matter when commenting situation in Ukraine. (None of them wants to remind voters about abysmal fiscal policies and broken balance sheets in their own countries).

The EU does not have the balance sheet to help Ukraine out of its problems. They offered freedom of movement for people in exchange to Ukraine´s natural resources. Russia gave Ukraine 15 bn loan (most of the money will not leave Russia. The whole operation is technical thing to convert Naftogaz debt into Ukrainian bonds).

This is the reality. Other reality is that Gazprom stock went up as this protest turned riot. This is the kind of world we live in.
(I do follow energy sector, not because I´m interested, just part of work).  Sad 

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Post by party animal - not! on Thu Jan 23 2014, 12:47

Thanks, Carla. Blimey, this is depressing. Sounds to me as if Ukraine cannot afford a morally right stand for freedom because basically they're bankrupt. Is that right?

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Post by Carla97 on Thu Jan 23 2014, 12:57

Yes, sensible route would be to have another round of negotiations with EU. And get a better deal. They are near bankrupt. Bigger problem is their complete dependance on Russia´s nuclear fuel and maintenance to their power plants, all having soviet type reactors. And all significant business sectors are tied to russia, (or china, military) also.
Who ever will be appointed next will face the same reality.

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Post by Mazy on Thu Jan 23 2014, 18:25

This seems like another heart=breaking situation that's only going to get worse before it gets better. The everyday people; like always are the ones who suffer the most.

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Post by ... on Sat Jan 25 2014, 01:01

The Ukrainian government has resorted to unethical tactics like hiring "titushki" (suspected thugs) to undermine the protesters.
Russia has a long history of monopolising the Ukraine's economy, so it's no surprise the present corrupt Ukrainian government rejected a treaty with the EU in favour of closer ties with Russia.

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Post by Carla97 on Sat Jan 25 2014, 09:04

What is it with burning tires weeks on row? I mean what an invisible threat to both people and environment in cell level. Emissions released there are highly mutagenic and toxic.


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Post by mosaic on Sat Jan 25 2014, 14:27

People standing near the fighting reported receiving a text message shortly after midnight on Tuesday, which said: "Dear subscriber, you are registered as a participant in a unsanctioned rally."

Mobile phone operator KievStar denied sending the messages and it is unclear who did.

Big Brother has arrived. This is illegal to interfere with someone's phone. It should be a head's up to people all over the world. This is why I don't want to see land lines go the way of the dinosaur--they can't mess with land lines like they apparently do with cell phones.

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Not to make light of a very serious situation but the guy with the colander on his head is just too surreal and even more so because I was writing a comedy sketch a few nights ago that included a person using a colander on their head to protect themselves from falling objects.

Lorna, I believe that they are doing that because the illegal government has forbidden them to wear helmets or covering their faces.

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Post by party animal - not! on Sat Jan 25 2014, 14:39

Yep, you're right, Mosaic. When that law was passed, loads of them took to wearing other stuff e g saucepans etc, over their warm hats........great sense of humour from them despite the seriousness of the situation

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Post by Butterfly on Sat Jan 25 2014, 16:28

I feel sorry for the people living there...so much violence and desperation.   Sad 
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Post by Mazy on Tue Jan 28 2014, 06:00

27 January 2014 Last updated at 21:46 ET
Ukraine Crisis Mps To Vote On Scrapping Anti-Protest Law

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The president has agreed to an amnesty - on the condition that barricades are cleared

Ukraine's parliament is expected to vote on plans to scrap a new anti-protest law in a special session called over the ongoing unrest in the country.

President Viktor Yanukovych has offered to repeal the legislation, but it is unclear whether MPs will back him.

Opposition to the law has helped fuel deadly clashes between anti-government protesters and police.

Parliament is due to tackle other opposition demands, such as an amnesty for arrested activists.

Mr Yanukovych offered an amnesty only if protesters cleared barricades and stopped attacking government buildings. So far, there has been no sign of protesters leaving the streets.

He made the concessions during talks with the three opposition leaders on Monday.

Meanwhile, top EU diplomat Catherine Ashton has brought forward a planned visit to Ukraine by 48 hours and will now arrive on Tuesday for meetings with Mr Yanukovych and opposition leaders.

She said she was "alarmed" by reports on Monday that the government was preparing to introduce a state of emergency.

Multiple reports had suggested that the government was intending to invoke a state of emergency, but officials later said they had no such plan.

'Liability'
Activists continue to occupy Kiev's central square and government buildings in a number of Ukrainian cities, saying they will not leave until Mr Yanukovych resigns.
The president began the latest round of talks on Monday evening with Fatherland leader Arseniy Yatsenyuk, Udar (Punch) chief Vitali Klitschko, and nationalist leader Oleg Tyahnybok.

He repeated an offer to Mr Yatsenyuk to assume the post of prime minister, which Mr Yatsenyuk formally turned down.

In a statement on the presidential website, Justice Minister Olena Lukash was quoted as saying that the "liability of the government" would be discussed in parliament on Tuesday.

KEY DATES
21 Nov 2013: Ukraine announces it will not sign a deal aimed at strengthening ties with the EU
30 Nov: Riot police detain dozens of anti-government protesters in a violent crackdown in Kiev
17 Dec: Russia agrees to buy $15bn of Ukrainian government bonds and slash the price of gas it sells to the country
22 Jan 2014: Two protesters die from bullet wounds during clashes with police in Kiev; protests spread across many cities
25 Jan: President Yanukovych offers senior jobs to the opposition, including that of prime minister, but these are rejected

Correspondents say ministerial changes could be on the agenda.

Mr Yanukovych's Party of Regions dominates parliament, reports the BBC's David Stern in Kiev.

But it is still not clear whether deputies will agree to vote to revoke the anti-protest legislation, our correspondent adds.

In a call to Mr Yanukovych on Monday, US Vice President Joe Biden urged the government to repeal what he called the "anti-democratic" protest law.

Demonstrators have demanded the legislation be repealed, but they also want the president to stand down.
The law was hastily passed in parliament by Yanukovych loyalists on 16 January.

The changes included a ban on unauthorised tents in public areas, and criminal responsibility for slandering government officials.

Unrest has spread across Ukraine, even to Mr Yanukovych's Russian-speaking strongholds in the east.
Four activists have died in incidents connected with the protests in recent days.

The crisis was sparked when Mr Yanukovych pulled out of a trade deal with the EU last November in favour of a $15bn (£9bn) bailout from Russia.
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Post by party animal - not! on Thu Feb 20 2014, 22:26

Terrible news from Ukraine today, but why are we surprised when we discover something like this? The President's son has 'won' 50% of all state contracts for instance......

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