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Post by Joanna Sat 12 Jan 2013, 20:33

Lighterside wrote:Thanks Mel and Cindy...for the explanation of TTFN. I thought everyone would have known that abbreviation since it's fairly universal, as well as knowing it's customary to capitalize abbreviations...caps don't always indicate shouting...but I guess to each his own.


As an old Brit I knew this anyway !

From Wikie....Origin of TTFN.....

"Ta-ta for now" was brought into popular use in the UK in 1940 in the weekly radio comedy It's That Man Again by the character Mrs Mopp, who ended every scene with it.[1][2][3][4] During the second series, the show's name was shortened to ITMA, to satirize the abundance of abbreviations that were becoming common knowledge due to the ongoing war.[5]
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Post by melbert Sat 12 Jan 2013, 21:29

I'll be the one with rings on my fingers, bells on my toes and a bone in my nose - oh oh!!!! AND, I will have a vice grip attached to Mr. Clooney's ironed balls so that he can't escape me!!!! AND, there will be pics and videos and an essay!!!! But only after I regain my senses after being in the presence of himself!!!!
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Post by Joanna Sat 12 Jan 2013, 23:03

Good girl Mel... Thumbs up!
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Post by Lighterside Sat 12 Jan 2013, 23:28

@Mel...and there will be a quiz! LOL
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Post by Joanna Sun 13 Jan 2013, 00:09

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On E! From 11pm......repeated all through the night....
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Post by playfuldeb Sun 13 Jan 2013, 03:13

I thought Vera's idea for a birthday present was very sweet. Maybe she wasnt aware of the all the previous statements made by Nick. It was still a sweet thought
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Post by lucy Sun 13 Jan 2013, 05:18

Be careful melbert remember what happen when George to EC to London and she had her hand on his ass all night, it got ugly here. But have fun and let us know about size.
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Post by very vera Sun 13 Jan 2013, 06:01

playfuldeb wrote:I thought Vera's idea for a birthday present was very sweet. Maybe she wasnt aware of the all the previous statements made by Nick. It was still a sweet thought

No I wasn't aware. Thank you, Deb! Smile

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Post by Katiedot Sun 13 Jan 2013, 09:07

This came to me through a PM (yes, non-members, you can reach me through the 'contact' button at the bottom of the page)

[Contact] Just did not seem like your usual KatieDot self

I've been reading along for a few months but unwilling to join the forum (I'd waste even more time).

I'm stuck on your recent comment about "small-minded fans ". We don't have to like his companions, it is his life his choice, I completely agree.

Yes, we each have the right to date whomever we like (as long as it is legal in our country).

Unfortunately, private lives are private until we bring them out on the red carpet and put them in commercials.

Some people like his dates, some don't care, some have concerns that they are signs of a dangerous trend negatively impacting our children. Each of us gets to make up our own mind about those things and this forum is not for those on that particular soapbox.

It just didn't seem like your usual even-handed attitude to slam some of your forum posters by labeling them small-minded, as though their concerns don't matter because you disagree with them.

They don't like her because of her actions, as long as they are not ranting that he's headed to hell for dating them or going completely off the rails as abusive trolls, it seemed unlike you to publicly slam them and label them small-minded for politely sharing their opinions.

For interesting reading:

Living Dolls the Return of Sexism by Natasha Walter. "Empowerment, liberation, choice ... these terms have now been co-opted by a society that sells women an airbrushed, highly sexualised & increasingly narrow vision of femininity. While the opportunities available to women may have expanded, the ambitions of many young girls are in reality limited by a culture that sees women's sexual allure as their only passport to success."
Firstly, let me apologise to anyone I may have offended with the small-minded comment. They were words typed in haste and poorly chosen late at night. I should have done better.

Secondly, I think feminism (and the way it's just died a death) is extremely important. I think it's a crying shame that so many young women nowadays rate themselves solely on their sexual attractiveness (although I don't think this is anything new, it's just that we now give more publicity to them) and I wish that none of them felt they had to act the way they do.

However, I also think that those who abuse them, write critical, judgemental comments about them because of the way they've chosen to live their lives is also not feminism. It's misogyny with a new look logo and I simply can't support that.

In so far as we can judge other human beings, I'm more interested in knowing what kind of person someone is: their honesty - can they be trusted? Do they do harm in the world or make it a better place? Can they love? Are they kind? Do most people who meet them say they're a good person or keep tellingly stumm on the subject?

In my experience none of those questions can be answered by knowing how many people you've had sex with ("Krista does porn"), or whether you've posed nude ("Elisabetta made sexy calendars"), or your intellect ("Stacy is dumb"), or what job you have ("Sarah is only a cocktail waitress"). You can meet all kinds or people, good and bad, in all walks of life, with all sorts of sexual histories, in all job levels.

That's what sparked the small-minded comment from me. The assumption that Stacy (or for that matter Elisabetta or Sarah or Lisa because the same thing has been said about them in the past as well) is somehow not good enough to walk next to George on a red carpet just annoyed me one step too far. And I went too far in my reply. And for that I'm sorry.
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Post by Lighterside Sun 13 Jan 2013, 14:33

Katie that must have been very hard to share with us and I applaud your openness and courage to discuss topics which are sometimes uncomfortable. I for one, completely understood your comment about "small-minded" people, but like you, I've been around for "ages" and can sometimes get caught up in the "newbies" judgmental attitudes towards his female companions.

Constructive criticism, however well meaning, generally forces us take a look at our own actions and assess whether or not an adjustment must be made in our approach to life and to interacting with other people. That is a good thing. But not all constuctive criticism, no matter how well presented, is valid.

In all the time we've been posting together and we both go back many, many years, I've never known you to be unkind or unyielding in your opinions. In fact, I would say that you go the extra mile to give others the chance to make their points and have their opinions heard and examined on this forum. If and when you do say something a little stronger, such as this situation that was privately brought to your attention, it is usually after exhaustive dialogue with whatever posters who have continued to "bash" the girlfriend in question.

Let's be honest, on any given day the criticism of George and his companions can be staggering. Sometimes I come here and wonder why I bother stopping by at all because the posting is so critical and over the top. The person who wrote this note couldn't possibly have read all those threads about Stacy, not to mention Elisabetta and then drawn the conclusion that you have ever been heavy handed in your "moderation" of this forum. Sometimes I'm embarrassed for posters because they don't have the good sense to be embarrassed by some of the things they say. For better or worse, there are some who frequent these forums who WILL NOT tolerate George with anyone...not even if she were Mother Theresa resurrected from the dead.

No one and that includes ALL of the women that have had the "audacity" to date George have every deserved the comments and treatment they receive PUBLICLY on this forum or elsewhere. I'm appalled at times as I said over some of the comments. I wonder if these people even remember they are talking about another human being.

So as I said in my opening, constructive criticism is a good thing if it makes us examine how we interact with others but in this case, in my opinion, it wasn't warranted or deserved.
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Post by it's me Sun 13 Jan 2013, 15:33

the criticism
IMO
is directly related on how he treats them
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Post by fava Sun 13 Jan 2013, 16:41

To me feminism means getting women to the point where they can make any choice they want and be respected for their right to make those choices--even thought other women may be critical of it and it may not be the choice you would make. That includes choices to be a working mom (or not), be overly concerned with your appearance (or not--although I agree our culture and media puts way too much emphasis on this especially for women--including entertainment, sports, politics, etc.), to pose in playboy or star in porn (or not) and to date someone who will never marry you (or not).

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Post by Joanna Sun 13 Jan 2013, 17:01

Thanks for your very articulated comments Lighterside, which I agree with. You always manage to express yourself so well. Thumbs up!

Don't worry about it Katie. For what it's worth, I for one understand
where you were coming from.
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Post by Lighterside Sun 13 Jan 2013, 17:41

Thanks Jo! I can't for the life of me figure out how the title changed though...LOL I noticed the change when I previewed it before posting and I thought it had to do with previewing it and would self correct once posted but apparently I was wrong. Embarassed
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Post by premiere Sun 13 Jan 2013, 17:44

I would love to know how an older, intelligent, attractive woman would be treated on this forum if she were dating George. It seems that many posters here object to the young, hot, seemingly not-too-bright girls he dates, and have mentioned someone older and more accomplished as a better choice. Would she get completely bashed and constantly criticized just because she was with him? Could it be that we don't like his women simply because he's with someone, and we're jealous?
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Post by melbert Sun 13 Jan 2013, 18:01

Premiere, I think that this was discussed before perhaps on another thread, or maybe I've just wondered in my own head. CRS!!! I think one of the first comments would be "what the hell is SHE doing with HIM????" I agree with your comment about most objecting to the "young, hot, seemingly not-too-bright girls". I think most of us want whatever makes him happy as well all love seeing a happy, smiling George, don't we? But, I think you're also right that some don't want him with anybody - jealousy? I love seeing him interact with his friends and family. And even g/f time, if he looks happy doing it. When we get downer George pics, we all assume that it's because of who he's with, and it just so happens that MOST of his downer pics seem to be with g/f? I would like to see him with someone more age-appropriate, seemingly more intellectual, someone he looks more comfortable with. Would she be picked apart too? More than likely.
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Post by cindigirl Sun 13 Jan 2013, 18:09

Even if his girlfriend was older and more accomplished of course she would be bashed and criticized premiere. Everyone has a past and probably have some skeletons in the closet and every detail would be brought up. I don't mean just us on COH but on the gossips as well. I don't think anyone has a stellar past.

I don't think any of us would be jealous of her because, as rational humans we know we'd never get to date him. She seems to be a nice enough person and maybe someone George needs right now for his own purposes.

The GG awards are on ABC tonight, 8:00 p.m. eastern time. I hope everyone enjoys them. I won't be watching because I have a hard time sloshing through the speeches and fashion nonsense.
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Post by lelacorb Sun 13 Jan 2013, 18:24


I'd like to see him satisfied and happy with a woman, any woman, even Stacy (even if between the women he has had for me she is the most "ugly" and insignificant). I have a feeling, however, that he was not looking for a woman to share his life, but a woman simply looking for it when you need him (I do not like) and do not we start with the usual question that he works hard and has a lot of activities because woman does not prevent you from working, the world is full of men who work more than him and do not go on vacation three months in the summer and during all the festivities! Jealous of him? Absolutely not!
Here we are all women with life experience makes me laugh when I think that there may be women jealous of George's gf
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Post by Joanna Sun 13 Jan 2013, 18:48

cindigirl wrote:Even if his girlfriend was older and more accomplished of course she would be bashed and criticized premiere. Everyone has a past and probably have some skeletons in the closet and every detail would be brought up. I don't mean just us on COH but on the gossips as well. I don't think anyone has a stellar past.

I don't think any of us would be jealous of her because, as rational humans we know we'd never get to date him. She seems to be a nice enough person and maybe someone George needs right now for his own purposes.

The GG awards are on ABC tonight, 8:00 p.m. eastern time. I hope everyone enjoys them. I won't be watching because I have a hard time sloshing through the speeches and fashion nonsense.


Can you not record it cindi and then whizz through the rubbish....I do that with most things
on commercial stations now....especially soaps and dramas....we're fortunate with BBC...
no adverts !
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Post by it's me Sun 13 Jan 2013, 18:52

makes me laugh when I think that there may be women jealous of George's gf

many will
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Post by Joanna Sun 13 Jan 2013, 18:53

I think an older lady with George would still get the "treatment" from some quarters....wrinkles...body fat...ego if in the Hollywood
business etc.
I don't envy any of them....but as long as he's happy...I'm happy.
I'm a simple girl at heart....and in my head some times... lol!
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Post by party animal - not! Sun 13 Jan 2013, 19:09

I agree with you, Jo - and your head's fine!

And it would follow that if he wishes to take SK to these events, he's happy to do so.....he's doing exactly what he wants to do.

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Post by Dior Sun 13 Jan 2013, 19:26

From what I read on whatever site the tenor of the comments is that his fans would love to see him (settle down) with somebody he loves, wether he wants that or not, hahaha.
And the girl (to settle down with) should not have nude or semi nude pictures all over the media and she shouldn't have a big fat famehungry ego which doesn't fit through any door anymore.
She could be a little more modest person and stay in the background.
So his fans seem to be pretty down to earth people, no hysteric teenagers and if he wouldn't provoke them all the time with his public long or short term sex affairs, I don't think anybody would take the time to critisize his girl. Not one of his latest affairs did show any self respect or respect to his fans, it seems like they do not even respect him, if you see their stupid games with the media. So why should his fans show respect to them or like them?
They are just getting a feedback of their narcissistic and self centered lifestyle which I think is just fair.


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Post by Best in Category Sun 13 Jan 2013, 19:28

I agree.
I think they complement each other. (First I didn´t think so, but now I am convinced).

They are perfect match in every way, ideal couple. This romance will last.

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Post by cindigirl Sun 13 Jan 2013, 19:45

Joanna wrote:Can you not record it cindi and then whizz through the rubbish....I do that with most things
on commercial stations now....especially soaps and dramas....we're fortunate with BBC...no adverts !

Hi Jo - I can't record it because I don't have the DVR feature on my cable package. Thanks anyway. Besides if he's just presenting for one award that would take only a few minutes - not worth watching. I'm counting on your ladies to record it and post here.
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Post by Picachu Sun 13 Jan 2013, 20:32

it will be up on you tube quick enough
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Post by Katiedot Mon 14 Jan 2013, 04:33

Joanna wrote:I think an older lady with George would still get the "treatment" from some quarters....wrinkles...body fat...ego if in the Hollywood
Exactly. Look at the awful things people say about Stacy because she's not "perfect" in some way. I can only imagine how cruel comments would get if he dated an older woman.

Dior wrote:From what I read on whatever site the tenor of the comments is that his fans would love to see him (settle down) with somebody he loves, wether he wants that or not, hahaha.
Too true!
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Post by OofOof Mon 14 Jan 2013, 05:38

Wow! What a discussion! From reading the comments on other sites about almost every actress and female celebrity, sadly, I think anyone he dated would be eviscerated, just as almost every woman on Celibitchy,and other gossip sites is on a daily basis, and usually by other women.

More mature actresses are attacked on those sites for looking " old" or for trying not to look old. Younger actresses and celebs are picked apart for being "fat" or too thin or dating the wrong guys.

I am not old enough to know what it was like before feminism began giving me and my friends the right to be our best selves but I really think we are going backwards of late. Women are overly sexualized at least here in the U S in every field. Girls today want to be sexy over anything else. My nieces pose on Facebook just like the celebs they see on gossip sites.

I must be honest and say I'm not a Stacy fan but I do think the comments about her physical appearance are out of line.
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Post by Best in Category Mon 14 Jan 2013, 05:54

Yes comment about her physical appearance are out of line and simply not true.

I think she has already shrink few inches just due all the positive comments here.

I can only admire her, what must be whole department of stylists, work.
Her appearance is so stunning it is nearly unnecessary for G to go with her.

G is trying to lean away so that he can bounce back and people would see he is there too. She outshadows averyone including G. True beauty inside out in an amazing package, personality, grace and style...

Behind every successful man there is a woman. And G has the best and most of it.

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Post by madsky Mon 14 Jan 2013, 11:42

Oof Oof, you are right what an interesting discussion. Still, I hate to think that the discussion on these gossip sites about "celebrities" who voluntarily put themselves out there to increase their fame could make anyone feel that women are going backwards in any way. Just look at the Globes tonight, two women comedians hosting superbly. The television show Girls and Lena Dunham wins big with an actress and creator who isn't your typical Hollywood skinny image. Just a few of the amazing women inspiring moments.

I think some people have always been unfairly critical of appearances, and I also mean personal image too. Now people have the anonymity of the web, and don't have to face the scrutiny of what they say.

This is one reason why I think we should give George a lot of credit. With the exception of Sarah, lately, it appears that he is picking women to publicly be with who are well aware of the deal and in some ways they want the attention. (A lot believe any publicity is good) Even though Stacy left the wrestling world, that fandom can be rough, to say the least. She is well versed and doesn't let the crazy comments bother her. There are always haters no matter who you are.

I don't think Stacy and George are this great love affair, but he does appear to enjoy being with her, at least at these events, the only things we really see them at. This probably works for a man who claims he doesn't want to marry again. Who knows he still might find a great love this way, but I am not holding my breath.

I guess I am an optimist, and I would like to think that if George changed his M.O. and picked a more mature established woman who wasn't trying to be a more famous "celebrity" she wouldn't get as much gossip abuse. I know my criticism of Stacy stems from her the appearance that she is using her connection with George to boost her celebrity career. I am not jealous of this. I just think a lot of women in particular who fight for their achievements get a bit snarky when it seems like someone just jumps ahead through a sexual connection.




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Post by lelacorb Mon 14 Jan 2013, 12:56

Being the woman of George is to have media attention but does not seem to give a job perspective? Stacy that work is being done? That important work he did in a year and a half? I do not think a job to be guests of events because they are a charity not give you a dollar!
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Post by Cynisca Mon 14 Jan 2013, 14:06

Exactly. Look at the awful things people say about Stacy because she's not "perfect" in some way. I can only imagine how cruel comments would get if he dated an older woman.

Not necessarily, KatieDot. A woman who is chronologically older but biologically looks much younger & is beautiful, elegant, intelligent, demure, would generally be admired. They would complement each other as a couple.
With Stacey, he appears to be a joke. It's ridicule especially because of the seedy & violent images of her wrestling 10 year career. Plus she's certainly not model material. Nor ever was one.

Perhaps he fell in love with her.
I do not find Stacey the least bit attractive, nor interesting. Cindy Crawford is 13 years older & looks younger & gorgeous.

So, no, people will scoff & ridicule where it's due.

And if he loves his woman, & they seem to be happy with each other, people would get used to her (as they did with Matt Damon's wife) & they'd show respect, no matter who she is. His happiness is what matters to him, so people would accept it. His private life. His business.

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Post by fava Mon 14 Jan 2013, 15:58

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Exactly. Look at the awful things people say about Stacy because she's not "perfect" in some way. I can only imagine how cruel comments would get if he dated an older woman.

Not necessarily, KatieDot. A woman who is chronologically older but biologically looks much younger & is beautiful, elegant, intelligent, demure, would generally be admired. They would complement each other as a couple.
With Stacey, he appears to be a joke. It's ridicule especially because of the seedy & violent images of her wrestling 10 year career. Plus she's certainly not model material. Nor ever was one.

OK-- Do you see what a tall order your list is? She needs to look younger than she is. What if she looks her age? What if she in not beautiful? What if she is not elegant? For example, I think Tina Fey is beautiful (but not "model material"), yet somewhat gawky and has questionable dress sense. So even though she is age-appropriate, has no nude photos that I know of, is talented and has a career in her own right--I think many George fans would still rake her over the coals if he dated her (hypothetically).

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Post by Cynisca Mon 14 Jan 2013, 17:17

Fava, no it's not a "tall order." I'm directly addressing KatieDot's remark that
I can only imagine how cruel comments would get if he dated an older woman.
whereby I explain an older woman can physically look much younger.
Secondly, an older woman can be physically beautiful, even if she doesn't look younger.
If anything, people would generally admire or envy that. Who would comment on a beautiful woman like Cindy Crawford or Monica Bellucci, if they married George Clooney? Or even some unknown woman of that caliber?

If he seems happy & in love with his partner, and it proves to be a serious relationship, then I'm certain people would accept his choice. As long as she was decent, supportive, had no offensive or lurid past, was confidant & polite, people would most definitely show respect.
And age appropriate seems much more compatible to most.
It's repulsive to date someone who is a generation older & reminds you of a parent.

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Post by Katiedot Mon 14 Jan 2013, 17:44

But most women don't look 20 years younger than they really are (apart from that dodgy advert on the internet). If he dated a woman who was age-appropriate for him, she'd be in her late 40s. She may look early 40s or perhaps late 30s but she won't look young. Unless of course she's face-lifted and botoxed to hell but you already know what the response to that would be. [read what some people here say about Cindy Crawford having done way too much to her face already - she doesn't get complimentary comments on this forum all the time either]

Besides, I object to the insistence thatonly a stunningly beautiful woman can date George. Firstly beauty is in the eye of the beholder and while you may not find Stacy attractive, many men do. Presumably that includes George.

Secondly there are many great women out there who while not ugly also aren't stunningly beautiful - Tina Fey was a great example. Do you really want to say that they're not good enough for him? And that based only on looks?

You're right, it's not a tall order: it's a fairy tale.
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Post by Joanna Mon 14 Jan 2013, 17:49

"It's repulsive to date someone who is a generation older & reminds
you of a parent".

I disagree with that statement 100%.
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Post by very vera Mon 14 Jan 2013, 17:50

i will be 44 in march and everyone thinks i am in my late twenties. when i was in my twenties i hated being told i look young but now approaching 44 i LOVE it when people tell me i look 28 or so. i just LOVE it. i can put up a pic of me I am not shy at all

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Post by Dior Mon 14 Jan 2013, 18:01

It is not even a fairy tale, it is just blah blah, because he will never change.
For a change he would have to learn to follow his heart and not only his little friend down below.
And he would have to learn to trust A WOMAN, how's this, hahahaha.
I have the impression, he decides everything with his "ratio", but this is not how LOVE works.
Love makes its own development, it does not wait for George to catch up thinking about this and that and if it fits into his business plans.
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Post by fava Mon 14 Jan 2013, 18:40

What if he dated Elizabeth McGovern? She is 2 months younger than G. If they were dating I bet the internet would be abuzz with folks telling her she needed to get lots of work done. Yet she is a beautiful, talented woman.

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Post by Cynisca Mon 14 Jan 2013, 19:15

Well, I just looked at Elizabeth McGovern's profile on imdB. She's much more beautiful & looks younger than Stacey. Piercing blue velvet eyes. Plus, she's no plastic bimbo. But even if you think EM is not sexy, if he loved her, then people would accept his choice, sooner or later.

I think it would highly impress the general public if he finally found true love & stopped projecting the image of a sleazy middle-aged man. It also would reinvent his cliche image that's become the butt of bad jokes synonymous with sleaze.

Finally, there would be balance in his legacy of respectable work in film & humanitarian activism & in his private life. People would take him more seriously & admire him & his partner. Especially someone who complements him & is age appropriate. After all, he's old enough to be the father of the current Sexiest Man Alive title holder.


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Post by Katiedot Mon 14 Jan 2013, 19:38

Cynisca wrote:I think it would highly impress the general public if he finally found true love & stopped projecting the image of a sleazy middle-aged man. It also would reinvent his cliche image that's become the butt of bad jokes synonymous with sleaze.
I agree, but firstly you can't just snap your fingers and demand true love to come to you (ohh, if only that were possible) and secondly you're ignoring what George wants from his life - which may not be true love, marriage and a monogamous relationship for the rest of his life.

Finally, even George makes fun of his cliche image - he's the butt of his own jokes in Nespresso, the Norwegian bank thing and now his tequila ads.
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Post by Cynisca Mon 14 Jan 2013, 19:39

Joanna wrote:"It's repulsive to date someone who is a generation older & reminds
you of a parent".

I disagree with that statement 100%.

Well, you're welcome to disagree by all means..lol

There is an abundance of material on the internet in scientific journals where psychologists state that in their evaluation, the most compatible & happiest age difference between couples is 3 to 7 years age difference, the man usually being the older partner. The reasons are multifold.

Generation older men do conjure up images of father figures. It repulses me. The older they are, the worse it is. No 20 or early 30s-something would want to be with a much older man or woman.

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Post by Cynisca Mon 14 Jan 2013, 20:02

Katiedot wrote:But most women don't look 20 years younger than they really are (apart from that dodgy advert on the internet). If he dated a woman who was age-appropriate for him, she'd be in her late 40s. She may look early 40s or perhaps late 30s but she won't look young. Unless of course she's face-lifted and botoxed to hell but you already know what the response to that would be. [read what some people here say about Cindy Crawford having done way too much to her face already - she doesn't get complimentary comments on this forum all the time either]

Besides, I object to the insistence thatonly a stunningly beautiful woman can date George. Firstly beauty is in the eye of the beholder and while you may not find Stacy attractive, many men do. Presumably that includes George.

Secondly there are many great women out there who while not ugly also aren't stunningly beautiful - Tina Fey was a great example. Do you really want to say that they're not good enough for him? And that based only on looks?

You're right, it's not a tall order: it's a fairy tale.

It's a fairy tale in your mind, KatieDot. Do YOU know what is in George Clooney's mind or heart?

He may not have found someone to love yet. (I just addressed all this in the POLL thread: Could You Live the life if a GC gf?)
He may have other priorities, but when & if he does fall in love, it may be accidental when he least expects it.

Aww, I'm sorry you have a generalized opinion that women in their 40s look either their age or have had too many procedures. There are natural exceptions. It does stem from genes. Yes, Cindy Crawford has had Botox, but so has Stacey, which looks so obvious on both.
There are many women who look decades younger without cosmetic procedures.

And obviously yes, George is practical and rebounded with Stacey Keibler on July 8-9, 2011, from a thread I read. A month after he officially broke up with his previous girlfriend. He celebrated South Sudan's Independence officially that weekend in Como, with the ex-wrestler/ now serious longterm spouse in the making... She must mean the world to him for such an honor for the cause he championed....

As for "many men" who find Stacey Kiebler attractive, I've only read it from her wrestling past fanbase who enjoyed the titillation of violent, sleaze factor & her heavily photoshopped photos online. Presumably George does too...lol

Beauty radiates from within, as well as externally.
George Clooney should be with any woman he loves to feel completely happy. Age & appearance are not an issue. Decency should be...

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Post by Dior Mon 14 Jan 2013, 20:10

If he would date a respectable woman, his fans would admire him for that.
His fans are no hysterical teenagers who would pick on every girlfriend without a reason.
The reason why his past and current sex affairs get so much negative criticism is simply that there is so much to critisize!
Of course there will always be a few stalkers and nutcases, but those are perhaps 2 % of 100.


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Post by Cynisca Mon 14 Jan 2013, 20:21

KatieDot wrote: secondly you're ignoring what George wants from his life - which may not be true love, marriage and a monogamous relationship for the rest of his life.

Finally, even George makes fun of his cliche image - he's the butt of his own jokes in Nespresso, the Norwegian bank thing and now his tequila ads.


Indeed, as I wrote in the Love Poll thread, pure love comes organically & naturally. And it's rare & the most dynamic feeling if both partners feel it simultaneously.

And, really, how do you know what George Clooney wants from his life that only means empty short term flings & work? Doubt he confides in you...LOL. Or anyone...As lelacorb wrote above, many successful, powerful men have fulfilled, happy marriages & the wives do not interfere or jeopordize them.

Oh, and the Norwegian Bank & Nespresso ads, are not cliches of his private "ridiculed life" but parodies of George Clooney, the actor/ brand in various comical situations.


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Post by fava Mon 14 Jan 2013, 21:00

Cynisca wrote:
Katiedot wrote:But most women don't look 20 years younger than they really are (apart from that dodgy advert on the internet). If he dated a woman who was age-appropriate for him, she'd be in her late 40s. She may look early 40s or perhaps late 30s but she won't look young. Unless of course she's face-lifted and botoxed to hell but you already know what the response to that would be. [read what some people here say about Cindy Crawford having done way too much to her face already - she doesn't get complimentary comments on this forum all the time either]


Aww, I'm sorry you have a generalized opinion that women in their 40s look either their age or have had too many procedures. There are natural exceptions. It does stem from genes. Yes, Cindy Crawford has had Botox, but so has Stacey, which looks so obvious on both.
There are many women who look decades younger without cosmetic procedures.

And obviously yes, George is practical and rebounded with Stacey Keibler on July 8-9, 2011, from a thread I read. A month after he officially broke up with his previous girlfriend. He celebrated South Sudan's Independence officially that weekend in Como, with the ex-wrestler/ now serious longterm spouse in the making... She must mean the world to him for such an honor for the cause he championed....

As for "many men" who find Stacey Kiebler attractive, I've only read it from her wrestling past fanbase who enjoyed the titillation of violent, sleaze factor & her heavily photoshopped photos online. Presumably George does too...lol

Beauty radiates from within, as well as externally.
George Clooney should be with any woman he loves to feel completely happy. Age & appearance are not an issue. Decency should be...

You seem to be saying the woman needs be a certain age but look younger --through good genetics apparently and be of a certain "caliber. " My point is that she can look her age (or even older--seem people think George does)--there is nothing wrong with that. Life happens and our bodies and faces reflect that. Our culture is youth obsessed. Wonder if that will change when the demographics start skewing heavily retirement age.

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Post by Cynisca Mon 14 Jan 2013, 21:14

Fava
Please do not misconstrue what I wrote.
I addressed KatieDot's biased generalization that women in their 40s cannot look one to two decades younger & that those who do undergo cosmetic procedures.
I stated no provisos regarding genetics & physical appearance.

Secondly, my last paragraph states he can be with whoever he loves & they're genuinely happy. Read it. study

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Post by Joanna Mon 14 Jan 2013, 21:27

Cynisca...oh the iPad predicted text came up with cynic then.....Lol

Have you met George ?
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Post by Cynisca Mon 14 Jan 2013, 21:33

Joanna,

"cynic" did it? Oh, dear... lol!
Well given the spelling it would now, wouldn't it?
Elementary, my dear Watson!
lol!



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Post by Joanna Mon 14 Jan 2013, 22:06

Yes.... lol!.... indeed Cynisca.

But my question remains unanswered ? confused


Pretty avatar...anyone we should know ?
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