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Post by Katiedot on Thu Nov 15 2012, 11:26

Another one who can't tell when George is joking! Sigh

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Debating if they're good or bad is just old school. The male face-lift is proliferating in Hollywood -- but definitely behind closed doors.

Not everyone is George Clooney. For a variety of reasons -- not the least of which is bravery. A few years back, in an interview with Oprah, the now 51-year-old actor defiantly announced, "I had my eyes done. Can you tell? It's important to look awake."

Outside of Mickey Rourke (age 60), who had to admit to his flagrant face- and cheek-lifts meant to repair early boxing blows, virtually no male actor -- not even Rupert Everett -- has confessed to submitting to knife or needle. (Even Clooney later claimed he was joking.) The faces tell the story, though: These days, there seem to be more aging A-listers dying to hold on to not just careers and authority but looks.

Welcome to the new male face-lift trend. But guys who get surgery face challenges women do not. "It's much more pussifying for a male actor to be seen in before and after pictures," says one major producer. "They're allowed to be vain, but not act vain. It takes away from a tough-guy image." Can you imagine Harrison Ford or Dennis Quaid exchanging doctors numbers at a cocktail party? And yet, says a major casting director: "I definitely see a proliferation in men having face-lifts. Like Nicholson and Pacino, they want to keep working and can't look much older than female counterparts."

It seems impossible that men like Michael Douglas (68) and Sylvester Stallone (66) haven't had face-lifts. But the desired end result isn't as aggressive as it is with women. These days, doctors know they need to leave some reality -- i.e., wrinkles -- in the picture. "Today, a man over 50 wants to stay looking 45," says dermatologist Dr. Stuart Kaplan. "No guy wants to look 'done' or like he's trying to look 30. The end result has to be rugged, masculine, healthy." A common cry among male patients is, "Don't make me look like I did anything." And for that, it'll cost about $20,000.

Simon Cowell, 53, isn't discreet; he's famous for saying, "Botox is no more unusual than toothpaste." His American Idol co-star Ryan Seacrest once quipped, "Simon Cowell's had so much Botox, he can't scowl!"

Not only do men in the industry want to keep up with women, straight men now have to keep up with gay men, who, according to some plastic surgeons, are more likely to do fillers and face-lifts in their 40s. Their heterosexual counterparts wait longer, making for dramatic changes -- a dead giveaway. They're now learning that certain techniques such as filler face-lifts and neck lifts can make them seem to age much more gradually. "I just did a man in the business who felt like his wife looked young and he didn't," says plastic surgeon Dr. John Joseph. He felt the same way at work. " 'I hired all kids,' he told me, 'and I don't want to look like a dinosaur.' "

Going bald turns out to be two strikes against a youthful look. "If a guy has good hair," Joseph explains, "we can hide incision scars. But if he has male pattern baldness or the hair is thin near the ear, the scar will show, and you can't make it shorter -- the longer the incision, the longer the result."

Still, there are smart ways to camouflage scars on men. "When I cut their hair," says stylist Yuki Sharoni, "I leave it longer in that area to hide the scarring." Offers Beverly Hills derm Dr. Peter Kopelson, whose clientele is half male: "They can also have laser treatments to lighten the scars."

Plastic surgeon Dr. Paul Nassif says he's seen more male neck-lifts in recent years. "Men are most concerned about turkey necks. You can lipo that -- but if the neck's too loose, you can pull it together in one incision. If the man's older, he will need those incisions behind the ears." Nassif invented a technique to minimize scarring. "A good surgeon," he says, "will bring the hairline underneath the ear. If the man is bald, I do scar camouflage -- a zigzag scar. The eye won't follow it, and you won't see that much."

Appearance-educated men are more willing to do "the liquid face-lift": using fillers under eyes, near jowls and in the temples for semi-permanent lifting. It doesn't alter eye shape like surgery does. "Treating the brow slightly with Botox lifts the upper eye, which is perfect for men," says Kopelson. "But my most popular solution now is injecting the temples with Sculptra." A volumizer, not a filler, Sculptra requires an average of three treatments, once a month for three months -- and lasts two years or more. The procedure stimulates collagen, lifts the upper facial area and fills in an area where tissue starts diminishing in one's 40s. Kopelson adds: "There's no scarring, and the patient looks less bony, less drawn -- their whole face looks tauter. Men love this because it requires no downtime or recovery."

And as it turns out, doctors have a much easier time treating men. According to Joseph, "Men don't whine as much or need hand-holding. Women call every day during their recovery process. When you ask a man if it hurts, he always says: "NO! And don't give me any pain pills!"

HAVE THEY OR HAVEN'T THEY?
Arnold Schwarzenegger, 65, has denied using Botox or surgery, saying his face "is the real thing."
Mickey Rourke's plastic surgery has been documented in photos online.
Sylvester Stallone hasn't admitted to surgery, but the action star continues to look youthful.
John Travolta The 58-year-old's more chiseled-looking face of late has rumors flying.
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Re: The secret world of male face lifts - George Clooney plastic surgery mention

Post by melbert on Thu Nov 15 2012, 13:13

I still don't think George has had anything done.

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Post by Maggy on Thu Nov 15 2012, 16:19

Me too, and if he did I don't think it was something major.

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Post by Katiedot on Thu Nov 15 2012, 16:51

He hasn't had his eyes done, that's for sure. If he has, he ought to sue the quack who did it!

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Post by silly girl on Thu Nov 15 2012, 17:03

The most I could tell is that he had his teeth fixed....but I think the eye thing was a joke.

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Post by OofOof on Thu Nov 15 2012, 18:26

George definitely has veneers. His teeth probably cost $30,000. He looks like he had a full mouth done by a cosmetic dentist.

That producer in the article who said he did it because his wife looked younger...maybe because she IS younger? If they didn't just hook up with 20 year old VS models, maybe they wouldn't feel the need?

The thing I find really irritating is that Clint Eastwood, Jack N and yes, our George are all still able to play romantic leads in their 50's, 60's and, in Clint and Jack's case, even in their 70's. But women in Hollywood in their 30's are considered too old. I remember when the Thomas Crowne Affair came out with Pierce Brosnan and Rene Russo. A huge deal was made out of the fact she was 44 and playing a sexy, romantic lead.

There are few women who continue to be leads beyond their 40's. Meryl Streep and Helen Mirren are two of the few who seem to keep finding great roles. And, the Judy Dench's who continue to defy the odds are out there but they tend to play character parts which are more interesting but I do find it funny that Hollywood seems to think men in their 50's and up continue to have sex but women don't!

And I don't know what photos the writer of this piece has been looking at but Sly doesn't look younger or good. His face frightens me!

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Post by NotAvailable on Thu Nov 15 2012, 23:21

I really like George's face and I really don't care how he keeps it that way! I like it!!! I like it!!! Love4

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Post by Katiedot on Fri Nov 16 2012, 03:27

Haha! Tell us what you really think, Joanie!

OofOof: I know what you mean. The first time I really noticed it was when Harrison Ford was paired with Anne Heche (I think it was her) in Six Days Seven Nights. It was a stupid film anyway, but seeing his leathered, wrinkled old face next to her fresh and young one actually repulsed me. And I'm a big fan of his.

I can never figure out why they're so scared to partner male actors with romantic leads that are more or less their age.

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Post by theminis on Fri Nov 16 2012, 03:38

Did any of you see Somethings Gotta Give with Diane Keaton, Jack Nicholson, that movie had some of the best lines re older men dating younger women - hilarious

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Post by OofOof on Fri Nov 16 2012, 06:15

theminis, I LOVED that movie (Somethings Gotta Give) and my Mom loved it and my niece loved it--it really appealed to all ages I think be cause it wasn't forced. Diane and Jack were in the same age group.

I know age shouldn't make a difference but I am a little tired of they way women are considered old in their mid to late 30's and men like Harrison Ford are still starring in action films, well beyond their prime!

And, it seems like every rich, powerful man in the developed world is either boinking a much younger model or model wannabe or even married to them and having children in their 60's and 70's, or God help us, even their 80's. I mean does Alec Baldwin, Kelsey Grammar, Donald Trump and yes, George, really think their significant others are with them because they just can't live without them?

Sorry for the rant tonight ladies! Just got back from what has to be the worst first date in my life! Set up by well meaning friends and OMG, this guy...I could use my own rich, sugar daddy!

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Post by Katiedot on Fri Nov 16 2012, 08:31

Oh my! Sometimes you have to wonder what your friends really think of you when they set up disastrous dates! Let us know how it went on the chitchat thread!

I think I can answer one question for you, and that's no, the men really don't realise it. I live in Asia where it's very common to see middle-aged men with girlfriends in their 20s on their arms. If you talk to the man about it, he'll tell you that of course he's well aware that there are golddiggers just looking for a foreign passport and a way out of her miserable life, but his girlfriend is different; she loves him for himself.

To his credit, I think George is smarter than that. I think he's aware that a big part of his appeal is his wallet, fame and lifestyle but I don't think it bothers him all that much. IMO he's enjoying the ride as much as his girlfriend du jour is.

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