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Post by globalchick on Sat Sep 29 2012, 16:10

I've thought about his total inability to form a relationship and have a theory. Could it be that he has herpes? When he sticks to sleeping with the continuous neverending stream of bimbos in his life he can get away with using condoms. Probably not so in a REAL relationship where condoms aren't used. It would perhaps also explain his lack of desire for kids since this normally is a result of UNPROTECTED sex, not possible if you have herpes. (Ok I get that he could use IVF to get around this).

By the way I don't know how many of you guys here read [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] (a British newspaper with a HUGE circulation) but you can search for past articles on George and they have a VERY active comments section below the articles. Everyone has had enough of George's revolving door of bimbos. He really has become increasingly unpopular with women due to his lack of a proper girlfriend. And EVERYONE is seeing through his what they are now openly calling "contract girls".

Many posters are VERY critical of George claiming to be deep and intelligent but then going out with bimbos. Surely, they say, if George were a deep thinker he would want a similar woman to hang out with?

If George was smarter he would have found a Celine-type to marry by now purely for the sake of his public image - i.e. not a slutty type. He would be a lot more popular and bigger star now if he had done so.

I note that he is hardly giving any interviews anymore and even said he is afraid to do so because he is then confronted by questions about his "girlfriends"

What's the future for George? His father in that recent tv interview begged his son to "just think about marriage". If George were gay as has been mooted his father just wouldn't say that. Will any woman turn George around. Even Warren Beatty settled down when he was so old no women wanted to womanise with him anymore....

I used to be a big Clooney fan but went off him years ago around 2005 because of his bizarre private life because it was around then that I began to realise that there was something really wrong with him re an inability to love a woman. And IMO that's really unattractive to women. And the older he gets the more and more he is turning women who were his PRIMARY fan base off because of his weird dating behaviour. He got away with being a perennial bachelor when he was young and goodlooking but he just isn't getting away with it any more. He's just looking increasingly fraudulent and weird and the age difference between him and these circa 30 year old bimbos is getting greater and greater making him look more and more like just a dirty sleazy old man with disturbing emotional issues that prevent him from forming attachments to women.

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Post by LornaDoone on Sat Sep 29 2012, 16:17

Oh please cause he has herpes? There are a hell of a lot of people out there with herpes who have the ability to have lasting relationships.

George has not found anyone that he loves more than his wallet. Plain and simple. His first wife fucked him over with the money he barely had at the time, despite the fact that SHE had money from her parents that it made sour on marriage.

And why should he marry? He knows he can fuck just about any woman out there so why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free.

It a pretty simple concept. No deeper than that.

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Post by it's me on Sat Sep 29 2012, 17:03

his words
and behaviour in charity issues
speak loudly

he is not a superficial lighthearted man

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Post by Katiedot on Sat Sep 29 2012, 17:29

Well, it's a theory, I guess . . . but as Lorna says, herpes isn't anything that stops people from forming lasting relationships and it certainly doesn't stop people from having children.

Anyway, welcome to the forum globalchick and thanks for sharing your thoughts with us.

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Post by fava on Sat Sep 29 2012, 19:15

Have to disagree about the first wife--we don't know what happened between them. He claims he was a rotten husband and I have to accept that is probably the truth. Maybe he did some terrible things to her and she was mad and went after the money. Can't say as I blame her and George does not seem to either as he has since hired her.

As far as not doing interviews due to questions about his girlfriends, I don't think he has ever implied that he is ashamed of them. His point is that he wants to talk about his work or his causes and the interviewers want to talk girlfriends.

And I think I will repeat a point I have made before. It's primarily women that think he has emotional hangups. Men are envious and saying "Go George!" I think that is just a Mars and Venus thing and we have to remember George is a man and may not think of these things in the same terms as a woman.

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Post by LornaDoone on Sat Sep 29 2012, 19:26

fava wrote:Have to disagree about the first wife--we don't know what happened between them. He claims he was a rotten husband and I have to accept that is probably the truth. Maybe he did some terrible things to her and she was mad and went after the money. Can't say as I blame her and George does not seem to either as he has since hired her.

As far as not doing interviews due to questions about his girlfriends, I don't think he has ever implied that he is ashamed of them. His point is that he wants to talk about his work or his causes and the interviewers want to talk girlfriends.

And I think I will repeat a point I have made before. It's primarily women that think he has emotional hangups. Men are envious and saying "Go George!" I think that is just a Mars and Venus thing and we have to remember George is a man and may not think of these things in the same terms as a woman.

Yes she did, even though George didn't really have that much money in relation to the money she had. She became vindictive and dragged out the divorce almost longer than the marriage lasted.

Hell hath no fury? Got that right. Not to defend George in the marriage thing - it takes two to make a marriage and it takes two to break it. But my point is that if you feel you've been unfairly targeted, in relation to any transgressions you may have committed then you would be hard pressed to want to get back into that type of situation.

I think George has stated that is marriage broke up for the same reason his relationship soured with Celine - George spending so much time on his work and with the guys to the point of ignoring her.

But does that mean you rake him over the coals like she did? She didn't need the money - and it wasn't really that much in relation to what he makes now - but to him it was money he had worked really hard to get.

If men equate success with how much they earn, and women equate successful men with how rich they are - I know, I know not all do but many do and even society seems to favor a rich man over a poor man -- then taking his money could have been emasculating for him.

Just another theory to throw out there! :-)

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Post by party animal - not! on Sat Sep 29 2012, 19:34

I seem to remember an interview with Himself where he was quoted as saying one of the most frustrating things for him is that with fame he's lost the ability to get to know a girl slowly in a natural sort of way. I also think that he loves the chase and being the hunter. So in a way someone who's a friend and who's been in the same circle for a while scores. But that could also be tricky if you want to leave that person. And of course, understandably girls are falling over themselves to get to him. Who wouldn't be him?

The age thing? Well, Andy Williams has just died and left a widow thirty years younger. There's a lot of it about - my daughter included!

One of these days he's going to look across a room - and that will be it, marriage or no marriage, and if it turns out to be with someone he has loads in common with, even better!!

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Post by Best in Category on Sat Sep 29 2012, 19:57

Yes I agree theories are beginning to look odd
His behaviour is normal, he is a man. Very Happy


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Post by amaretti on Sat Sep 29 2012, 20:08

Yes I agree . He was not well known at the time , but he was a successful actor . The house , cars and money meant a lot to him , it was a measure of his hard work , I suspect .

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Post by EEOsandy on Sat Sep 29 2012, 20:28

I don't have a theory, but I recall an article (which I was unable to locate) where he stated he would never know for sure whether a woman really loved him. I think this is true of anyone with his level of fame/wealth. Although if he feels this way, you would think he would date women who are more of an equal to him and who don't need him for anything except love, romance, companionship, etc.

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Post by it's me on Sat Sep 29 2012, 21:16

George is a man and may not think of these things in the same terms as a woman


I guess so

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Post by Vi on Sat Sep 29 2012, 21:17

yep

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Post by Dior on Sun Sep 30 2012, 00:54

Usually people do what they do just because they CAN do.
My theory is he had been disappointed and hurt too much and then he locked his heart behind big, big walls.
And the longer his heart is hidden and locked, the colder it might get, because it needs warmth and LOVE.
But what I like about this theory is, that it implies if he keeps his heart for himself like a treasure, it might be a really sensitive and precious heart and this is worth so much more than all of his money.

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Post by The next mrs clooney on Sun Sep 30 2012, 01:09

I like your theory Dior. Very Happy

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Post by Emerald Berry on Sun Sep 30 2012, 06:34

I read he is worth 100 million pounds - wouldn't you be careful too?

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Post by NotAvailable on Sun Sep 30 2012, 09:00

globalchick wrote:I've thought about his total inability to form a relationship and have a theory. Could it be that he has herpes? When he sticks to sleeping with the continuous neverending stream of bimbos in his life he can get away with using condoms. Probably not so in a REAL relationship where condoms aren't used. It would perhaps also explain his lack of desire for kids since this normally is a result of UNPROTECTED sex, not possible if you have herpes. (Ok I get that he could use IVF to get around this).

By the way I don't know how many of you guys here read [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] (a British newspaper with a HUGE circulation) but you can search for past articles on George and they have a VERY active comments section below the articles. Everyone has had enough of George's revolving door of bimbos. He really has become increasingly unpopular with women due to his lack of a proper girlfriend. And EVERYONE is seeing through his what they are now openly calling "contract girls".

Many posters are VERY critical of George claiming to be deep and intelligent but then going out with bimbos. Surely, they say, if George were a deep thinker he would want a similar woman to hang out with?

If George was smarter he would have found a Celine-type to marry by now purely for the sake of his public image - i.e. not a slutty type. He would be a lot more popular and bigger star now if he had done so.

I note that he is hardly giving any interviews anymore and even said he is afraid to do so because he is then confronted by questions about his "girlfriends"

What's the future for George? His father in that recent tv interview begged his son to "just think about marriage". If George were gay as has been mooted his father just wouldn't say that. Will any woman turn George around. Even Warren Beatty settled down when he was so old no women wanted to womanise with him anymore....

I used to be a big Clooney fan but went off him years ago around 2005 because of his bizarre private life because it was around then that I began to realise that there was something really wrong with him re an inability to love a woman. And IMO that's really unattractive to women. And the older he gets the more and more he is turning women who were his PRIMARY fan base off because of his weird dating behaviour. He got away with being a perennial bachelor when he was young and goodlooking but he just isn't getting away with it any more. He's just looking increasingly fraudulent and weird and the age difference between him and these circa 30 year old bimbos is getting greater and greater making him look more and more like just a dirty sleazy old man with disturbing emotional issues that prevent him from forming attachments to women.


I have thought about what you said about possible venereal disease abd how it would make him feel.

I think it would def lower his self esteem a great deal and make him feel unworthy of a loving relationship with a good woman. Especially if he felt hugely responsible for getting it perhaps also giving it to someone else before understanding full consequences of it's nature. remember that many such things are communicable thru saliva and other fluids, if in the blood.

I have to say tho, that I could never stand in judgment of anyone living with such a condition. My compassion indeed goes out to ppl who live with such a problem. It would be almost like living in a bubble. While I would probably be unable to fall in love with someone who had it, because truthfully, I am quite human, Once in love with someone who told me they had such a problem, I could never forsake them over it.

But what if it is something he must deal with all the time. Think of the emotional damage to his ego and also how difficult it is for him even with the ladies he does date. He seems like such a sweet person, and for this to happen to someone like him, it would make me feel so bad for him. I think he would be careful that they didn't fall for him, if he could prevent it. Quick relationship, over and done before they can get too serious.

I see where this could be true, but I sure hope isn't, for his sake.

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Post by it's me on Sun Sep 30 2012, 09:41

Dior wrote:Usually people do what they do just because they CAN do.
My theory is he had been disappointed and hurt too much and then he locked his heart behind big, big walls.
And the longer his heart is hidden and locked, the colder it might get, because it needs warmth and LOVE.
But what I like about this theory is, that it implies if he keeps his heart for himself like a treasure, it might be a really sensitive and precious heart and this is worth so much more than all of his money.

I sadly have to agree with you

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Post by globalchick on Sun Sep 30 2012, 15:40

I seem to remember an interview where he was quoted as saying one of the most frustrating things for him is that with fame he's lost the ability to get to know a girl slowly in a natural sort of way. I also think that he loves the chase and being the hunter. So in a way someone who's a friend and who's been in the same circle for a while scores.
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The weird thing about George is that once he hit ER success he never dated a successful actress. This is the opposite of what most of his peers do. Many actors in Hollywood form relationships with their co-stars precisely because:

a) They are not after them for their money, it eliminates gold diggers
b) They get to know someone slowly over the duration of making a movie - so many couples have formed this way, Brad Pitt and Gwyneth Paltrow, Ben Affleck met Jennifer Garner in such a way.

And there has never been any evidence that George has ever dated a woman who's been a friend. Are these cocktail waitresses friends? I have a degree and would never want to sit down for dinner with Stacey Keibler - I can't think of anything at all that she would say that would be of any interest to me whatsoever. You have got to feel sorry for Cindy Crawford - Cindy is a VERY successful woman but has had to have many a dinner with this everchanging revolving door of bimbos.

I have always found it completely bizarre that George has never had a relationship with one of his co-stars as it stands to reason that he would get to know these women over time and a genuine friendship would be formed while filming the picture.

I liked Ides of March but in general have not found George's movies to be any good for years. I think he's made a lot of rubbish. I know he thinks he makes very important movies but based on what I've seen, it wasn't worth sacrificing his love life for that's for sure. His movies are not as good as he thinks they are. For example I can't think of any movie he's made in the last 12 years that comes close to being as good a movie as Gladiator or A Beautiful Mind that Russell Crowe made. Gladiator will be remembered forever whereas George's movies that he's made in the last 12 years won't even be watched anymore in 10 years time.

I also don't agree that George wants to be a hunter. When you hunt cocktail waitresses when you are a millionaire movie star it's not much of a hunt since it is guaranteed you will have a 100% success rate. On the other hand trying to woo an attractive co-star who can have a number of men would definitely be a challenge. Or even a supermodel. I don't think George is a hunter at all.

However I agree with the point above, which you often see underneath the Daily Mail articles on George, that the men say good for him why should he settle with one woman whereas all the women now are saying: George Clooney has serious emotional problems.

George won't even date successful models. Leonardo di Caprio for example is the ultimate modelizer. He has a revolving door of beautiful women too - but only VERY HIGH QUALITY beautiful women. And because they are such successful models they themselves earn ALOT of money so he eliminates the kind of outright golddiggers that George will go out with. Gisele Bundchen is the highest paid model in the world now. You know that with Leonardo di Caprio the women are not 1 year contract women. The women Leonardo dates are beautiful and classy AND rich. He also seems to form genuine relationships with them although they never last longer than a year or a year and a half. I don't know why George Clooney doesn't take a leaf out of Leonardo's book I really don't. If you just want attractive women let them be beautiful models with their own substantial income. It would have been better for his public image too.

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Post by Atalante on Sun Sep 30 2012, 15:53

He's from ... Kentucky ... so ... LOL!

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Post by party animal - not! on Sun Sep 30 2012, 15:59

What do you think of Good Night and Good Luck, Globalchick?

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Post by globalchick on Sun Sep 30 2012, 16:23

I can't even remember the plot of Good Night Good Luck even though I saw it. That says it all? I vaguely remember it being about Ed Morrow or something. It wasn't a bad film it's just not a memorable film. I thought the Descendents was just awful it really was. I remember The Perfect Storm VERY well though. LOL. I liked Ides of March very much but mainly for Ryan Gosling who was quite sexy in it.

You'll never forget a Russell Crowe picture if you see one though. I'm not a huge Russell Crowe fan believe it or not, it's just that he's starred in so many damned good movies that you NEVER forget - LA Confidential, A Beautiful Mind, Gladiator, Master and Commander, Cinderella Man, The Insider so I brought him up to compare George's career to his. And guess what - Russell Crowe has a happy marriage and 2 kids and a career that is much better than George's. So much for George's idea that he wants to leave behind a great body of work so that's why he's sacrificing his personal life. It just doesn't wash. Sorry.

Two things will happen. Either George will be a late bloomer like Warren Beatty and have a meaningful relationship late in life OR he will be left all alone at 70 with a bunch of DVD's of not that great movies he's made to keep him company. I'm actually inclined to think that he will follow in Warren Beatty's footsteps and turn around and get married to a 35 year old woman at 58 and have a kid (if he hasn't had a vasectomy).

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Post by MM on Sun Sep 30 2012, 17:12

Atalante wrote:He's from ... Kentucky ... so ... LOL!

Well, so are his mom and dad...and they are wonderful people...so don't knock George.

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Post by it's me on Sun Sep 30 2012, 17:29

hi globalchick
great fan you

Thumbs up!


anyway
I agree on Russel Crowe: great actor
but I also heard
very bad things about him as a person

George Clooney is a great actor
and has also a way better character
as a person

so
G wins over R
IMO Very Happy

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Post by Atalante on Tue Oct 02 2012, 19:29

MM wrote:
Atalante wrote:He's from ... Kentucky ... so ... LOL!

Well, so are his mom and dad...and they are wonderful people...so don't knock George.

I'm referring to the way Kentucky men date Kentucky girls, way back when he was at school. Laughing He wasn't exactly a nerd, was he now ? alien

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Post by Best in Category on Tue Oct 02 2012, 19:49

globalchick wrote:

You'll never forget a Russell Crowe picture if you see one though. I'm not a huge Russell Crowe fan believe it or not, it's just that he's starred in so many damned good movies that you NEVER forget - LA Confidential, A Beautiful Mind, Gladiator, Master and Commander, Cinderella Man, The Insider so I brought him up to compare George's career to his. And guess what - Russell Crowe has a happy marriage and 2 kids and a career that is much better than George's. So much for George's idea that he wants to leave behind a great body of work so that's why he's sacrificing his personal life. It just doesn't wash. Sorry.

Globalchick: I have to admit you just listed some movies I didnĀ“t watch till the end. His pictures don't do a thing for me either... must be something wrong with me... I dunno

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Post by Maggy on Tue Oct 02 2012, 20:14

Russell Crowe doesn't do anything for me either. I think a better example could had been Tom Hanks, but even so, I prefer Mr. Clooney over any of them. I can't ignore or forget how passionate George is about the less fortunate and how involve he is in his humanitarian work. He is the best.

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Post by cindigirl on Tue Oct 02 2012, 20:33

It's the passion George has for those who have less than him that is the most attractive thing about him. Russell Crowe is a good actor and attractive but he's not known for his compassion. In fact, I've heard some negative things about him as a person. Another actor I admire is Tom Hanks who is also known for his good deeds. Tom's married to Rita Wilson, a very classy lady.

As for George's somewhat wonky romantic life, I say if it works for him, go for it guy.

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Post by Joanna on Tue Oct 02 2012, 22:38

True Cindi ....leave the guy alone I say....LOL

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Post by pattygirl on Tue Oct 02 2012, 23:17

Globalchick: I think that you are a snob. You are critical of George's choices, not knowing the females you malign. Because they are not "famous" models or actresses, they must be stupid and "airheaded", and not worth sitting across from at a dinnertable and engage in conversation. It seems awfully judgemental of you to say this about anyone. Maybe there are people out there who know you and feel that you are not so noteworthy.

You state that Leo dates VERY HIGH QUALITY models who are very successful and therefore earn a lot of money. Does that make them better conversationalists at a dinner, or more intelligent? If these very successful models are so intelligent, how come so many of them are unintelligent enough to starve themselves so they can fit into their runway clothes? I don't claim to know any of these women, but it is obvious that they do this just so they can earn the big bucks - now ain't that smart?

Don't understand why you bother wasting your time on this forum, you obviously aren't a George Clooney fan, which you stated yourself. Just have a desire to be a "basher" and a rumor instigator, huh?

It's really sad that others in the forum are ready to join the bandwagon. You know, folks, starting rumors is a very sad commentary on our society. You don't even care if it is true or not, you just go along with it because you think "well, maybe that's the reason".

Why can't George just be living life the way he chooses? If he were John Q. Citizen, would you really question his choice of girlfriends? Would the number girlfriends really be that catastrophic? He doesn't date a different girl every night, every week, or every month, as some men do. His girlfriends last much longer than that. That he doesn't intend to remarry shouldn't be such a big deal. Not all men (or women) are meant to marry. He has his friends, his work, his charities and is probably pretty content. Whomever he chooses to spend his time with, entertain in any way he chooses is his perogative. I hope he continues to make great movies (even if globalchick doesn't agree) and that we will continue to see his smiling face for many years to come.

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Post by Maggy on Tue Oct 02 2012, 23:25

Thank you, Patty!!!


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Post by Joanna on Wed Oct 03 2012, 01:09

Good one patty. Thumbs up! ...thanks

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Post by party animal - not! on Wed Oct 03 2012, 01:24

Well said, Patty. Like it.

Oh, and as for remembering 'the plot' of Good Night, Good Luck, maybe this will help. It's a piece of American history involving a world-famous journalist and broadcaster laying bare the way Senator McCarthy tried innocents at a Senate hearing and accused them of UnAmerican Activities i e of being communists. A dramatisation of a factual event. Hope that helps

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Post by theminis on Wed Oct 03 2012, 03:03

Yes at last another voice of complete sensibility - go Pattygirl you rock!! I'm a bit too mature to be saying You Rock but it just felt right Very Happy

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Re: Theory about George's lack of commitment to women which is looking increasingly weird

Post by playfuldeb on Wed Oct 03 2012, 04:09

Maybe what Pattygirl said raises some good points, but I think name calling is something found in five year olds. Should we encourage new posters to voice their opinions, and accept that we agree to disagree? Or should we beat them up verbally and maybe they'll never post again. She was just throwing a theory out there. Jeez, pattigirl, grow up and learn to play nice

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Post by Maggy on Wed Oct 03 2012, 04:46

What GC is doing is insulting to George's hard work and accomplishments by comparing him with other actors. Second, she said Leo dates "but only VERY HIGH QUALITY beautiful women" and don't they (models) posed nude just like the rest (some) of the women George has dated? What's so high quality about that? All the women George dates are beautiful in their own way. Is the life style that most including myself here don't agree with.

What is her objective here if she dislikes everything about George?


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Re: Theory about George's lack of commitment to women which is looking increasingly weird

Post by Katiedot on Wed Oct 03 2012, 06:08

OK, Globalchick is allowed to state her opinions and if she doesn't like his films or girlfriends (and she's hardly the only one here in that respect), then so be it.

Likewise, we're allowed to respond to, agree and disagree with her opinions. That's the whole point of a forum.

All I ask is that we do it politely. Calling others snobs or telling each other to grow up and play nice is verging on the edge of not that polite IMO. And what happens then is if one or two let loose a little, everyone else feels like they can jump on the bandwagon too and it degenerates from that point, so let's try to reign that in a bit and carry on the conversation?

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Post by NotAvailable on Wed Oct 03 2012, 07:46

I quite agree Katie. We are all ladies who have interests in stars, namely George here, and it behooves us all to be polite enough to each other, tho we may disagree with something said. Its keeps the hearts warmer and the forum nicer. And I'd like to think, there are some friendships formed at times in a place like this... Lots of happy

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Post by Best in Category on Wed Oct 03 2012, 08:05

Did I already post something here? (rhetoric question)
Well a new day, a new "theory"...
Maybe there is no lack of commitment hmmmm.... Wink

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Post by pattygirl on Wed Oct 03 2012, 13:21

I don't feel I was "name calling" when I called GC a snob. I don't feel that any person isn't worth engaging in conversation while at a dinner table. Everyone's opinions are worth exploring. To feel that one is "too good" or "righteous" to engage in my book is snobbish. We are all capable of interesting conversations.

I'm sorry if my comments offended anyone. I couldn't find another word for someone who looks down on a person who "isn't famous" in the same way as the VERY HIGH QUALITY models that Leo dates.

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Post by EEOsandy on Wed Oct 03 2012, 15:16

I think it is helpful to focus on the opinion that you disagree with and not the individual who expressed the opinion. As Harry Callahan (Dirty Harry) said, everyone has an opinion.

PS - that was just my opinion.

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Post by Katiedot on Wed Oct 03 2012, 15:44

Thanks Patty for your post. Just to clarify, I didn't think anyone actually was rude, but we were starting to head down that route.

I'm really happy you posted. I always grit my teeth whenever I read comments dismissing women as being somehow worthless simply because of the job they do so I'm glad you spoke up.

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Re: Theory about George's lack of commitment to women which is looking increasingly weird

Post by Ello on Wed Oct 03 2012, 20:38

Well I think his relationship choices are weird. He's a smart guy, he makes smart movies, has deeply felt social and political views and is very well informed. He has smart friends and surrounds himself with interesting people who make an impact on the world. The one glaring exception to all this is his choice of girlfriend. He does have pretty much a free choice and he always goes for women with nothing at all to say.

I have no problem with waitresses but I do have a problem with the Kardashians and Hiltons of this world, and their wannabe acolytes, whose only desire is for celebrity and whose malign influence destroys the ambitions of little girls everywhere before they can even dream them up. And this is the type of woman George chooses to date? Face it girls, it's weird.

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Post by The next mrs clooney on Wed Oct 03 2012, 21:51

I think we are thinking about this as women and what we really need to do is think of it as men. He goes for young hot girls in a mans view there's nothing wrong with it.

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Post by Ello on Thu Oct 04 2012, 00:42

No, Future Mrs C, there isn't anything wrong with it and, yes, men go for hot young girls. George is not the only movie star in the world. Most A-Listers, who could do what he does, don't. Most of them are not as smart as he is either. Yet he is the one still with women half his age, whose relative maturity and experience must make them significantly less interesting to him than his usual acquaintance. These are not one night stands, he keeps them around, yet does not want to talk with them. Only to them, presumably.

There are plenty of hot young girls with brains and careers and dreams (other than to have their own reality show) that he could date. He meets lots of them, and he consciously and consistently picks shallow, celebrity obsessed women. Given who he is, and the choices available to him, that is weird.

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Post by EEOsandy on Thu Oct 04 2012, 01:11

Ello wrote:No,
There are plenty of hot young girls with brains and careers and dreams (other than to have their own reality show) that he could date. He meets lots of them, and he consciously and consistently picks shallow, celebrity obsessed women. Given who he is, and the choices available to him, that is weird.

But do you think that a "hot young girl" who has her own career, brains, and money would want to be with George? Yes, I and probably most of you, think he's handsome, but he and I are close to the same age. I agree that fame and money might make just about anyone handsome, but when I was 35 or less I would not have found him attractive and even with his fame and money, I would not have considered a relationship with him. As much talk as there has been about him liking Stacy because she is independent, blah, blah, blah, I think we all know that he calls the shot in this relationship and every other one he had. This wouldn't be so with a woman who has her own career, brains, and money. Consider Eva Longoria for example - I would have loved to see her and George hook up, but girlfriend has herself a much younger hot stud football player. Go Eva, Go Eva!!!!

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Post by The next mrs clooney on Thu Oct 04 2012, 01:19

He also wants someone that can be around when he wants them to be an work around his schedule. If he dated girls that had a successful career then they wouldnt be as available to him as the others. I'm sure he gets his fill of stimulating and intellectual conversation from may other people that he doesnt need it from the girls.

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Post by Missa on Thu Oct 04 2012, 01:32

I've always thought he dates these particular girls to keep from ever having to reconsider his position on marriage. While all of his girlfriends may be very nice women, these are not women he would ever have a long term relationship (more than a couple of years), for the very reasons we've already discussed. I think he could fall for the right girl, he knows he could, and he doesn't think it's a good time for that (if it ever will be). So he simply avoids dating the "right" type of women, chooses to spend time with those who are a little more expendable, and he never has to make the choice between his career and his personal life. No one gets hurt. Well, at least he doesn't.

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Post by it's me on Thu Oct 04 2012, 06:47

maybe there is another weird reason
that maybe no one will know
ever

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Re: Theory about George's lack of commitment to women which is looking increasingly weird

Post by LornaDoone on Thu Oct 04 2012, 07:37

Jack Nicolson, Clint Eastwood, Humphrey Bogart, Spencer Tracy, Michale Douglas, Warren Beatty - just some of the famous A-listers who dated, had children with or married much younger women.

I think the difference is that most of those above married the much younger woman or had a long-term relationship with them even if they were initially considered "players." Also, most of the women would not be considered bimbos - if anything - most are far from that!

I think that may be the gist of why we seem to have such an issue with whom he dates.

I just had a weird thought.

Given how much George storyboards his films, I wonder if he storyboards his relationships?


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Post by NotAvailable on Thu Oct 04 2012, 08:03

After having read a lot of his interviews and watched some personal ones on video, I sort of feel like he got burnt emotional in a way he had a long time recovering from. What I consistently get is that, and the few he seemed to have been pretty smitten with, have made him very hesitant to run very fast into an emotional commitment. I think he may even want to find one who will be more devoted to him, his likes and wants and love him for real. Think he doubts that he can find a woman like that. Who would love him just for him and not what he is, his money or fame. But him. Most of us prolly think we could easily do that.

But think just for a moment. If he wasn't famous or as rich(I think he would have been pretty rich, no matter what he would have chosen for a career, because of his drive and ambition to succeed), but just the ordinary sort of rich guy, how well would most of you feel about him. That is, you wouldn't have been seeing his face all the time to hero worship, and you only knew some minimal info to go with your possibility of being with him, like the average middle income ppl today.

How many sort of rich guys do you come across in your everyday life? Prolly not that many right? So if he was one of those types, how many would have been as interested? That says something important to George. He KNOWS that most women want someTHING or other from him, other than just to really love him. There are of course women who actually could love him without even considering his bank account or fame, but as with finding the "perfect" guy for you is a difficult matter, its even harder for him to find that "one" because of his FAME and FORTUNE.

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