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Post by Katiedot on Sun Jan 16 2011, 10:52

From The Malta independent

It's long, but I think we need the whole story here. Clooney bit in bold:

The girlie story
by Noel Grima
15 January 2011

On to the other side of the sea, and Berlusconi’s woes, from La Repubblica’s summarizing of the events.

The minor detained at Police Headquarters

The new judicial storm that is hitting Silvio Berlusconi has the face of a young Moroccan girl, Karima Ruby el Mahroug, known as Ruby. She is at the centre of what the magistrates of Milan have reconstructed as a case of juvenile prostitution and abuse of office that calls into question the Premier and his by now well-known parties in Arcore.

It all begins the night between 27th and 28th May 2010. Officers attached to the Police Headquarters of Milan arrest the minor accused of theft by a female friend with whom she shares an apartment. The police officers find Ruby on the street and bring her to their offices located on Via Fatebenefratelli. They discover that she is 17½ old (her date of birth being 11 November 1992) and that no one answers at the address she has given.

It is at this point that, in these same offices, a telephone call is received from Palazzo Chigi (the prime minister’s office) asking that the girl be released and entrusted to Regional Council Member Nicole Minetti (the Premier’s former ex-dental hygienist and currently under investigation for abetting prostitution). The girl is promptly released

Things are not so simple. An investigation focuses on the phone calls made from Palazzo Chigi to obtain the ‘release’ of the girl. It thus emerges that Ruby went to Arcore several times from 14th February to early May.

On 21 December 2010, Berlusconi is entered in the register of those under investigation by the Public Prosecutor’s Office of Milan for abuse of office and in connection with juvenile prostitution. The news is made public only two days later, together with an invitation addressed to the Premier to appear before judicial authorities.

Ruby, however, denies everything, while admitting to just sporadic meetings without a sexual background. The public prosecutors, instead, when poring over the printouts of the calls made on the girl’s cell phones, discover that she was in Arcore on many weekends coinciding with the presence of Berlusconi in the villa.

It is an investigation (the hypothesised offence is abetting prostitution) where the Italian Premier is not under investigation; those being investigated are: Lele Mora, Nicole Minetti and Emilio Fede.

To the public prosecutors Ruby rules out having had sex with the head of government, just as she confesses having lied to Berlusconi. “I told him I was 24 years old and not 17. Nicole knew that I was a minor and so did Lele Mora”.

However, Ruby tells of her three visits to Arcore, of the parties at the villa and of the dozens of young women, both famous and unknown − many of them escorts − who took part in them.

The girl puts a novel expression on the court records: “bunga bunga”. This is the term referring to the host’s habit of inviting some female guests, the most willing, to an erotic after-dinner interlude. “Silvio (I call him Silvio and not Papi as he would like to be called) told me that he’d copied that expression − “bunga bunga” − from Gaddafi: it’s a rite of his African harem.”

Later, when she went to Milan, she adds: “Emilio calls me and says I’m taking you out. I don’t know where, he doesn’t tell me with whom or at whose place. He comes to pick me up with a blue car. I get in, we zoom off escorted by police car of the Carabinieri toward Arcore (Berlusconi’s house). I am introduced to Silvio. He is very polite. There are a score of girls, but as for men − just two, Silvio and Emilio (Fede).

(Ruby names the guests. The complete catalogue of the female world of Silvio Berlusconi is there: TV hostesses of greater or lesser fame, stars on the rise, some very famous, starlets on the wane, some television stage assistants, more than one escort, two female government ministers, single girls and girls apparently very much engaged. So far, no names have emerged in public.)

“We dined,” she recalls, “but I didn’t stay overnight. After supper I left. By 2:30am I was already home. With a black and white dress by Valentino and Swarovski glasses, given to me by Silvio.

“The second time I went to Arcore was the following month. Straightaway Silvio tells me that he would be pleased if I stayed there all night. Lele had already mentioned that he would ask me to. She had reassured me: ‘Don’t worry, you won’t be the object of sexual advances, nobody will embarrass you.’ And that’s the way it was. We had supper and afterwards I participated for the first time in bunga bunga.

(This onomatopoeic “game” going beyond a sense of the grotesque is described by Ruby to the appalled public prosecutors of Milan with great vividness, even with excessive material vividness. She dwells on the modalities of the sexy, male chauvinist ritual that was related by Muammar Gaddafi and imported amid laughter to Arcore. Ruby specifies what was done and who did it − a long list of famous and popular names on television or in Parliament.)

“I,” Ruby goes on, “was the only one dressed. I watched while I served a drink (a Sanbitter) to Silvio, the only man. Afterwards, they all went for a swim in the covered swimming pool; I wore white shorts and top that Silvio found for me and immersed myself in the hydromassage tub.

“The third time I went to Arcore was for a dinner, which was a much, much calmer event. When I arrived Silvio told me that he would introduce me as Mubarak’s niece. At table, she maintains, were Daniela Santaché, George Clooney and Elisabetta Canalis.

Is Ruby telling the truth? Or is she lying? That is the burning issue facing the investigators. To what extent is Ruby’s account credible?

To get to the bottom of it, the investigation must first of all demonstrate that the minor really met Silvio Berlusconi and really was at Arcore. Ruby offers what appear to be incontrovertible confirmations.

She displays the jewels received as a gift from Silvio Berlusconi: gold crosses, necklaces, earrings, diamond-studded watches (Rolex, Bulgari, Dolce&Gabbana) and ordinary watches with the inscription “It’s a good thing that Silvio is here” or with the Milan football club logo, haute couture clothing and a German car. Ruby claims to have received over €150,000 from the head of government (in cash over a three-month period) and, above all, a promise. “Silvio gave assurances that he would buy me a wellness centre and he invited me to spread the word that I was Mubarak’s niece.”

There is no doubt that something appears amiss: despite Berlusconi’s legendary generosity, so much cash, so many jewels and promises seem disproportionate to the commitment of just three meetings.

But some circumstances seem direct confirmations of Ruby’s words. On 14th February her cell phone is “positioned” on the “satellite cell” of Arcore. A pair of jewels in her possession − this is also true − were purchased by Silvio Berlusconi. Investigations also have verified what verged on the incredible, namely that the young female guests of Villa San Martino, just as some of those under investigation, use the bunga bunga slang expression of Arcore in their talks.


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Re: Berlusconi's peccadilloes - George mention

Post by melbert on Sun Jan 16 2011, 15:59

"There is no doubt that something appears amiss: despite Berlusconi’s legendary generosity, so much cash, so many jewels and promises seem disproportionate to the commitment of just three meetings."

I was born at night, but not last night! Smells pretty fishy to me!!

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Post by Atalante on Sun Jan 16 2011, 17:04

Now I didn't get the bunga bunga part. Everyone nude in the pool or something ??? Eeek!

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Post by it's me on Sun Jan 16 2011, 22:25

pole dance half naked
than strip

the lower 'half part of clothes only' were uniforms
Carabinieri, Polizia et similar

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Post by Katiedot on Mon Jan 17 2011, 02:28

I'm still amazed at claims that George and Betty were at one of these dinners. It's not clear whether this was just a dinner or a bungabunga dinner.

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Post by emeraldcity on Mon Jan 17 2011, 03:27

OK, I did some research on the term 'bunga bunga'. Turn away now if you don’t want the gory details.


Supposedly a traditional (?) North African tribal punishment/humiliation for trespassing on another tribes land. It involves the chief or leader of the offended tribe submitting the offender to anal sex, for sex read rape and possibly even gang rape.

In the form Berlusconi is using it probably means an orgy involving anal sex with multiple women as it appears to have been consensual.


Honestly I'm not surprised, nothing shocks me about this utterly disgusting man anymore.

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Post by melbert on Mon Jan 17 2011, 03:45

OMP! Thanks for the info Em. Not sure I really wanted to know. Explains some things perhaps. So this is nothing like "cowabunga dude"?

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Post by PigLove on Mon Jan 17 2011, 04:38

I wonder if our Betty was ever a Berlusconi girl...

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Post by Katiedot on Mon Jan 17 2011, 04:52

I think a lot of Betty haters would like to think so.

I think there's not enought evidence to say either way. She was a velina on a TV programme on a station that was owned by Berlusconi, but then he owns most of the media in Italy so it would be very hard for a starlet to become a celeb without being in his media one way or another.

Are we to suppose that every single Italian woman who's become known in Italy through one of his media outlets is a Berlusconi girl? I think that's a big stretch.

On the other hand, she has been linked to the drugs and prostitution scandal so she could be that kind of gal. Who knows?

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Post by PigLove on Mon Jan 17 2011, 05:30

If she were a B-girl, it may have been a matter of necessity. "That kind of gal" might just be any hot Italian woman who wants to make it in showbiz over there. If Berlusconi owns everything, he calls the shots.

That's why I really hope they find a way to get him out of office. SOON.

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Post by emeraldcity on Mon Jan 17 2011, 05:35

I forgot to mention that the time line doesn't seem to fit for the link with Clooney. Ruby said she visited Berlusconi's villa three times between February and May 2010 and on the third visit Eli and George were at the villa (which sounds like sometime in May).

George was filming in Hawaii from Mid March till the end of May. I think he then went to Mexico for his usual holiday with ‘the boys’ and spent time in LA and then back to Italy in June for some extra pickup filming on The American. It doesn't seem likely he could fit in a dinner with Berlusconi in May.

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Post by melbert on Mon Jan 17 2011, 20:05

Name-dropping for attention? Or a plant by Eli's PR team? Either way, I sincerely hope that George is NOT involved in any of that mess.

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Post by it's me on Mon Jan 17 2011, 22:34

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Post by it's me on Mon Jan 17 2011, 22:38

has berlusconi a secret fiancee?

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