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Post by Best in Category on Sat Jul 07 2012, 14:15

would be great to talk about and comment on those, but I realise it is not possible via public site silent

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Post by it's me on Sat Jul 07 2012, 15:44

why?

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Post by Best in Category on Sun Jul 08 2012, 09:19

Why it would be great to talk about it or why it is not possible via public site?

Good stories are extremely hard to find even harder to write. As it seems like everything has been written and filmed already. Writers get ideas from the films. Scripts from the books. At the beginning somebody lived and experienced it or heard a story or invented it by using their imagination.

Now, it is interesting to see who succeeds to find next great story and turn it mega big box office hit. It has to serve masses, critics, all age groups, and ethnical, religion backgrounds, educated and less educated people. It has to be a story that everybody wants to see.

Such a story may already exist.

Such stories are not introduced in public sites. But pieces of them can circulate here, in the bit space. Story has to overpower all the content of the internet for its running time.

That’s why I find it very fascinating topic.

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Post by it's me on Sun Jul 08 2012, 09:51

well
it seems a little
but not so little
space
so no
you are right

and I guess such films
that can make everybody happy
don't exist

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Post by Best in Category on Sun Jul 08 2012, 11:51

Pardon, what I wrote was too generalizing. E.g. no one but J.K. Rowling came up with H.P. And it was and is unique. Could be that there is someone who has not heard of it…

Great books that haven’t been successful film adaptations so far could be (to name couple): Dead Souls and Taras Bulba. Hilarious books , great fun to read and not too heavy at all.

Cheap to produce (locations wise). Maybe modern day/updated version of them would work. Titanic was well known story (worn out even) and still…

Impossible to make everybody happy. But better to make them passionate, happy or very angry. Far better than indifference, unresponsiveness.

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Post by it's me on Sun Jul 08 2012, 13:39

why very angry?

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Post by silly girl on Sun Jul 08 2012, 13:39

Interesting topic....I know I get disappointed when a book does not translate to screen. One of the best adaptions I can remember is the Silence of the Lambs....the screenwriter struck a correct balance and was able to really capture the book. That being said so much of the book was left out....but the main story was incredibly accurate. As for the HP franchise....I didn't care for the first one. I felt they tried to cram everything in from the book. I think the ensuing films were able to capture the essence of the books without being too literal.

Oh and yes the HP books are great stories....but the theme of the books is universal....

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Post by Joanna on Sun Jul 08 2012, 13:52

IMO the greatest adaptation from book to film is
Gone With the Wind....the film inspired me to read the book.
I don't think I was disappointed...CRS...It was many years ago now...LOL

Maybe the important thing is to treat each medium....(is that the correct word ?) on it's own merits and enjoy both for what it is ?

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Post by Katiedot on Sun Jul 08 2012, 15:09

I'm always disappointed by film adaptations of books, to the extent that I'll try not see films of books I loved.

However, if you've seen the film and then read the book, it's almost always rewarding.

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Post by silly girl on Sun Jul 08 2012, 15:13

So true Katie.....to this day I cannot bring myself to watch "The Prince of Tides" because I loved the book so much. I do find that some classics have been done well through the years. For example: I think my favorite adaptation of Pride & Prejudice is still the one Colin Firth....

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Post by LornaDoone on Sun Jul 08 2012, 16:55

silly girl wrote:So true Katie.....to this day I cannot bring myself to watch "The Prince of Tides" because I loved the book so much. I do find that some classics have been done well through the years. For example: I think my favorite adaptation of Pride & Prejudice is still the one Colin Firth....

Ah, Pride & Prejudice now you're getting into my "favorite films of all time" category but surprisingly, I like the Knightly version more so than the Firth TV mini-series. And I think the reason is that because it was a mini-series shown over multiple nights, there was a lot of what I'll call filler. Way too many ballroom dance scenes that really didn't move the story along.

But with the Knightly version I think it had a good balance.

I also loved Emma Thompson's adaptation of Sense & Sensibility. Her dry, sly humorist style was perfect for my taste and I felt made the film very enjoyable!

As to another set of books - I saw the film Hunger Games before I read the books and I found that seeing the film first made it easier for me to imagine some of the locals that they discuss in the books. I am so looking forward to the next installment of the films now that I've read all three books!


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Post by Katiedot on Sun Jul 08 2012, 17:08

Oh yes, count me in for Hunger Games too. I saw the film first and then just HAD to get the books and I'm so glad I did.

I think that's the reason why film adaptations suffer so much: it's simply not possible to get as in depth in a 90-minute film as in a long book so the book is almost always going to be rewarding.

An example of a really badly made adaptation for me is Where The Wild Things Are. What were they smoking when they made that???!

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Post by Joanna on Sun Jul 08 2012, 18:10

http://www.uclan.ac.uk/news/face_of_christian_grey_revealed.php

Picture at link !



Face of Christian Grey revealed


UCLan academic publishes first image of the mysterious 50 Shades of Grey character

He’s the man on everyone’s minds – and now academics from the University of Central Lancashire (UCLan) have put together an image of Christian Grey, the dark and mysterious character at the centre of E L James’ 50 Shades of Grey novels.

Dr Faye Skelton, a lecturer in UCLan’s School of Psychology, put together an ‘e-fit’ – a computer-generated facial composite – based on descriptions from a dozen women of the mental image they have of Christian Grey.

Most of the descriptions drew comparisons with famous film stars, which may help Hollywood moguls when the inevitable film remake comes to casting.


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Post by melbert on Sun Jul 08 2012, 18:18

Do I see a little bit of Keanu Reeves in that composite? Interesting...

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Post by LornaDoone on Sun Jul 08 2012, 18:19

Has a strong resemblance to Val Kilmer around the eyes and jaw. At least to me.

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Post by melbert on Sun Jul 08 2012, 18:21

definitely not the "new" Val, but I can see a young Val. Good eye Lorna!

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Post by Best in Category on Sun Jul 08 2012, 20:02

“why very angry?”

For no reason other than that I couldn’t come up with a better word or expression. Slightly angry is too soft, angry is just angry..

I get disappointed when a book does not translate to screen too. But I really can’t remember when that has happened either.

Back to topic: would be great to see G.C. as Axel Munthe in “the story of San Michele”. Munthe was ladies man, he loved Capri (Italy and lived there), traveled a lot : Capri, Rome, Paris, London. Had an affair with the princess (later queen) of Sweden.

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Post by Joanna on Sun Jul 08 2012, 21:26

I'd like to see him in a remake of To Kill a Mocking Bird !

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Post by Lakin460 on Sun Jul 08 2012, 21:27

Joanna wrote:I'd like to see him in a remake of To Kill a Mocking Bird !

Oh YES!!! Good call, Jo!

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Post by silly girl on Sun Jul 08 2012, 21:45

Oh no To Kill a Mockingbird is one of my favorites....it is actually a great adaption....love Gregory Peck....not sure if I could see a remake.....

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Post by Lakin460 on Sun Jul 08 2012, 21:49

I think George would make a great Atticus Finch, altho I agree, Gregory Peck would be a hard one to outdo!

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Post by it's me on Sun Jul 08 2012, 23:01

Best in Category wrote:
disappointed when a book does not translate to screen

ok
understood

thanks

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Post by Best in Category on Mon Jul 09 2012, 13:23

To kill a mocking bird comment: The story takes place during three years of the Great Depression in the fictional "tired old town". Easy to relate to that as we live times of endless quantative easing (QE). People are tired and towns are tired, for sure. So maybe…

I tried to think of some masterpieces from the world literature (other than Solaris ☺ and others which have film adaptations already.) Choderlos de Laclos – Les Liaisons Dangereuses, Marquerite Yourcenar- Memoires d’Hadrien or other books could be fit for formula-happy Hollywood. But…

I got an idea, not too oblique or experimental. Title: Billionaire, Plot: Somewhere around his middle age billionaire has too much love, money and time. He is happy living in his comfort zone without any forms of violence of life affecting him, others around him have various doses. Nothing explodes or breaks (buildings, cars, houses) in this plot, besides hearts. He has a secret. No one knows. He can’t see the woman he loves, he writes her. Sometimes she answers. He could have had her a long time ago. They were never a couple, but were seeing each other random occasions over the years. Now she is married and has chosen to be with her man. It is unclear why things are like they are between them.

Her letters and voice on a telephone would be enough to present her. Other women in this story would be present but still statistic. “storia interna” would be so powerful that scenes are just jaw dropping. Setting a new benchmark for the language of cinematographic expression.

‪Music something like: Francis Cabrel‪ - Je t'aimais, je t'aime et je t'aimerai‬, James Blunt – I really want you, Astor Piazzolla – Libertango, the Fray- heartless…
And yes this is thoroughly commercial* that with top top brands (watches, cars, clothes, you name it.) Setting and scenery: Blue, as it is in the afternoons by the lakes, winter evenings in the alps, early mornings in the Fidzi island…
Cast: G.C.!

*(Commercial is not opposite to artistic. A film can be artistic without main character being ugly, fat, unfortunate or gritty e.g. depressed character goes to toilet, 30 minutes later he flushes and critics find it meaningful and artistic )

What do you say? Very Happy

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Post by it's me on Mon Jul 09 2012, 14:07

storia interna? :-/
means???

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Post by Best in Category on Tue Jul 10 2012, 10:08

Smile That’s a million dollar question!

Michelangelo Antonioni himself could have explained it best.

One of those things you can’t google and find the answer.

I try to summarize it – later (in English) Smile

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Post by Joanna on Tue Jul 10 2012, 10:21

BiC..(.did you know there are biro pens with that name)

says..."what do you say" ?
Me thinks I've read it all before on.....

BTW...do we need a troll alert ? geek

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Post by Best in Category on Tue Jul 10 2012, 21:49

Storia interna = characters internal story is more important than external story and always has its priority. Basically it is something other than the story itself or the lines from the screenplay. Factor x that contributes (or is absent) to the film.

If someone can articulate it better - please do so... study

Supply is huge. Market is full of filters and agents, which will tell us what something is worth among 7000 thousand movies, 15 million books or 1 million paintings produced, published and made by year. These figures might seem encouraging and maybe it really doesn’t matter if the world is being overrun with all this. What makes individual work to stand out? Who buys it? And more importantly why?

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Post by Best in Category on Wed Jul 11 2012, 14:00

I like quality pens, but oftentimes I loose them. And when I need a pen all I can find is crappy ones that I have gotten for free (gas stations, hotels, insurance companies etc.)… Rare pen reminds me of the movie Mammoth…

While ago Sotheby’s announced they had found signature made with disappearing ink on one painting. Ultraviolet lightning revealed this discovery.

Troll alert? I am novice at slang, so have to stick with etymology and mythology side of a troll. Troll is a research centre in Antarctica, but I assume we are more like talking about cyclopic eyed fearsome member of a mythical race here. Something like troll of Norway, which I am apparently not.

Pen, ink, art auction, modern technology, trolls and Antarctic would make a quite a mismatch for a screenplay. Bonfire, eastern bunny and some man-sized insects should be considered too. And to squeeze G.C. somewhere in it would require extraordinary artistic leanings.

Thinking about Ice Age 4. Someone misspelled it Aids Age somewhere, but that’s a whole another story.
Writer\'s block

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Post by it's me on Thu Jul 12 2012, 00:29

thanks for your explanation :-)

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Post by it's me on Thu Jul 12 2012, 00:33

thanks for your explanation :-)

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Post by Katiedot on Thu Jul 12 2012, 04:50

Joanna wrote:BTW...do we need a troll alert ? geek
Possibly.

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Post by Best in Category on Thu Jul 12 2012, 20:53

Wow, moderator thinks I am possibly a troll!? Whaaaat?

Merci beaucoup. Tack så mycket. Basiba. Vielen dank.

CYA no one can afford the bad publicity, it is so scary even when received anonymous!

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