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Post by macs on Wed Jul 04 2012, 16:00

ok that's basically what you could call random name droping I guess, but it's summer and the only news around are this, and boat rides...
anyway here's an article where GC is used as an example to explain something really scientific, and really complicated (not much of a scientist myself, so George's named got me to read the article, but quite frankly I don't understand everything about it... though apparently the discovery is important) anyway here it is...

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New discovery could be 'God particle' CERN scientists find new particle, probably the Higgs
By Chris Wickham and Rosalba O'Brien, Reuters

Strongest evidence yet of 'God particle'
On the hunt for the Big Bang particle


GENEVA/LONDON - Scientists at the CERN research centre have found a new subatomic particle that could be the Higgs boson, the basic building block of the universe.
“I can confirm that a particle has been discovered that is consistent with the Higgs boson theory,” said John Womersley, chief executive of Britain’s Science & Technology Facilities Council, at an event in London.
Joe Incandela, spokesman for one of the two teams hunting for the Higgs particle told an audience at CERN near Geneva: “This is a preliminary result, but we think it’s very strong and very solid.”
The Higgs particle, although crucial for understanding how the universe was formed, remains theoretical. It explains how particles clumped together to form stars, planets and even life.
Without the Higgs particle, the particles that make up the universe would have remained like a soup, the theory goes.
It is the last undiscovered piece of the Standard Model that describes the fundamental make-up of the universe. The model is for physicists what the theory of evolution is for biologists.
What scientists don’t yet know from the latest findings is whether the particle they have discovered is the Higgs boson as described by the Standard Model, a variant of the Higgs or an entirely new subatomic particle that could force a rethink on the fundamental structure of matter.
The last two possibilities are, in scientific terms, the most exciting.

The Higgs particle - what it is and what it does
Scientists at the CERN research centre near Geneva, Switzerland, on Wednesday unveiled their latest findings in their search for the Higgs boson, a subatomic particle key to the formation of stars, planets and eventually life after the Big Bang 13.7 billion years ago.

WHAT IS THE HIGGS BOSON?
The Higgs is the last missing piece of the Standard Model, the theory that describes the basic building blocks of the universe. The other 11 particles predicted by the model have been found and finding the Higgs would validate the model. Ruling it out or finding something more exotic would force a rethink on how the universe is put together.
Scientists believe that in the first billionth of a second after the Big Bang, the universe was a gigantic soup of particles racing around at the speed of light without any mass to speak of. It was through their interaction with the Higgs field that they gained mass and eventually formed the universe.
The Higgs field is a theoretical and invisible energy field that pervades the whole cosmos. Some particles, like the photons that make up light, are not affected by it and therefore have no mass. Others find it drags on them as porridge drags on a spoon.
Picture George Clooney (the particle) walking down a street with a gaggle of photographers (the Higgs field) clustered around him. An average guy on the same street (a photon) gets no attention from the paparazzi and gets on with his day. The Higgs particle is the signature of the field - an eyelash of one of the photographers.
The particle is theoretical, first posited in 1964 by six physicists, including Briton Peter Higgs.
The search for it only began in earnest in the 1980s, first in Fermilab’s now mothballed Tevatron particle collider near Chicago and later in a similar machine at CERN, but most intensively since 2010 with the start-up of the European centre’s Large Hadron Collider.

WHAT IS THE STANDARD MODEL?
The Standard Model is to physics what the theory of evolution is to biology. It is the best explanation physicists have of how the building blocks of the universe are put together. It describes 12 fundamental particles, governed by four basic forces.
But the universe is a big place and the Standard Model only explains a small part of it. Scientists have spotted a gap between what we can see and what must be out there. That gap must be filled by something we don’t fully understand, which they have dubbed ’dark matter’. Galaxies are also hurtling away from each other faster than the forces we know about suggest they should. This gap is filled by ’dark energy’. This poorly understood pair are believed to make up a whopping 96 percent of the mass and energy of the cosmos.
Confirming the Standard Model, or perhaps modifying it, would be a step towards the holy grail of physics - a ’theory of everything’ that encompasses dark matter, dark energy and the force of gravity, which the Standard Model also does not explain. It could also shed light on even more esoteric ideas, such as the possibility of parallel universes.
CERN spokesman James Gillies has said that just as Albert Einstein’s theories enveloped and built on the work of Isaac Newton, the work being done by the thousands of physicists at CERN has the potential to do the same to Einstein’s work.

WHAT IS THE LARGE HADRON COLLIDER?
The Large Hadron Collider is the world’s biggest and most powerful particle accelerator, a 27-km (17-mile) looped pipe that sits in a tunnel 100 metres underground on the Swiss/French border. It cost 3 billion euros to build.
Two beams of protons are fired in opposite directions around it before smashing into each other to create many millions of particle collisions every second in a recreation of the conditions a fraction of a second after the Big Bang, when the Higgs field is believed to have ’switched on’.
The vast amount of data produced is examined by banks of computers. Of all the trillions of collisions, very few are just right for revealing the Higgs particle. That makes the hunt for the Higgs slow, and progress incremental.

WHAT IS THE THRESHOLD FOR PROOF?
To claim a discovery, scientists have set themselves a target for certainty that they call “5 sigma”. This means that there is a probability of less than one in a million that their conclusions from the data harvested from the particle accelerator are the result of a statistical fluke.
The two teams hunting for the Higgs at CERN, called Atlas and CMS, now have twice the amount of data that allowed them to claim ’tantalising glimpses’ of the Higgs at the end of last year and this could push their results beyond that threshold.

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Re: From GC to how the universe was was created

Post by Joanna on Wed Jul 04 2012, 16:47

Oh right....yes of course...thanks macs !
Got it...not LOL

Now going over to look at nice people on a boat
to relax my brain Superdupercool

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Re: From GC to how the universe was was created

Post by LornaDoone on Wed Jul 04 2012, 17:05

Ah hell why didn't they just say it out right? George is the center of the universe.

Nuff said.

Brahahahaha

No seriously, the example does make sense. If they are talking about an entity of energy that pulls particles toward it then it builds a body with mass. Maybe picturing a magnet surrounded by a bunch of slivers of metal would make it easier to understand.

If you put the magnet in the middle of the slivers all the metal slivers would be drawn to it making a much larger clump. If there were slivers of plastic for instance in the pile, they would not be attracted to the magnet. That's what the photons are - i.e. unaffected by the pull of the magnet so although they are in the same area, they don't form the body that is made up of all the metal that is attracted to the magnet.

I'm not a physicist by any means and maybe I'm over simplifying it but I take it to mean that a god particle is that one thing that draws other energy to it thereby forming the universe.

As to using George's name - well everyone else does, why not capitalize on it. Frankly, though, they could have used Justin Beiber's name and drawn one heck of a lot more views of their article.


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Re: From GC to how the universe was was created

Post by Joanna on Wed Jul 04 2012, 17:14

Good one Lorna... Thumbs up!

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Re: From GC to how the universe was was created

Post by lelacorb on Wed Jul 04 2012, 18:13

Who discovered the Higgs?
"We tested the existence of the Higgs boson"
And 'the particle at the origin of the Universe


THE DISCOVERY - After fifty years the Milanese Fabiola Gianotti and American Joe Incandela, spokesman for the respective experiments, have shown this morning in front of the scientific community of CERN their findings last phase of investigations started in December last year when , still here at CERN, had presented the first evidence of the existence of the fateful particle. The uncertainties of the past are definitely falling. But with a double surprise. "The Higgs boson - explains Guido Tonelli, CMS spokesperson for the experiment until a few months ago - not only now we have before our eyes but also has opened a new physics.

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Re: From GC to how the universe was was created

Post by macs on Wed Jul 04 2012, 18:33

LornaDoone wrote:Ah hell why didn't they just say it out right? George is the center of the universe.

Nuff said.

Brahahahaha

No seriously, the example does make sense. If they are talking about an entity of energy that pulls particles toward it then it builds a body with mass. Maybe picturing a magnet surrounded by a bunch of slivers of metal would make it easier to understand.

If you put the magnet in the middle of the slivers all the metal slivers would be drawn to it making a much larger clump. If there were slivers of plastic for instance in the pile, they would not be attracted to the magnet. That's what the photons are - i.e. unaffected by the pull of the magnet so although they are in the same area, they don't form the body that is made up of all the metal that is attracted to the magnet.

I'm not a physicist by any means and maybe I'm over simplifying it but I take it to mean that a god particle is that one thing that draws other energy to it thereby forming the universe.

As to using George's name - well everyone else does, why not capitalize on it. Frankly, though, they could have used Justin Beiber's name and drawn one heck of a lot more views of their article.


cheers to your explanation, I certainly wouldn't have been able to talk about it so well ; )
it's the stuff about an eyeash of the photographer that totally lost me LOL
and Justin Bieber is the center of the universe just doesn't the same to me affraid

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Re: From GC to how the universe was was created

Post by Katiedot on Wed Jul 04 2012, 18:44

Thank you for that Lorna.

My only ever encounter with a Higgs Bosun particle was in Solaris. It's something that Viola Davis' character suggests as a way to get rid of the 'visitors' to the ship.

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Re: From GC to how the universe was was created

Post by macs on Wed Jul 04 2012, 18:48

Double reference ? then it's not a coincidence, it's proof !

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"Way too Long Story "made shorter?

Post by Guest on Fri Jul 06 2012, 19:24


The Higgs field is a theoretical and invisible energy field that pervades the whole cosmos. Some particles, like the photons that make up light, are not affected by it and therefore have no mass. Others find it drags on them as porridge drags on a spoon.
Picture George Clooney (the particle) walking down a street with a gaggle of photographers (the Higgs field) clustered around him. An average guy on the same street (a photon) gets no attention from the paparazzi and gets on with his day. The Higgs particle is the signature of the field - an eyelash of one of the photographers.


Say wha?
This "report" and the way it is written is exactly why most people can be intimidated by "Science." Yeah Right The little metaphor using George is good, but it is not clear. I read this article 3 times. I have no idea what is being discussed. My final interpretation is like this:

1. A Higgs Particle is in a field alone Whistle

2. Along comes a "Super-powered" Photon Halo which "heats up" (so to speak)
in bed the unknowing Higgs particle. (Please note: The clueless Higgs particle
forgets to "leave the money on the dresser" for that awesome, non-fame seeking
Photon.) loser2

3. The Higgs Particle after getting properly "heated up" then is able to transform into
the Elusive yet Powerful Higgs Boson particle. Yahooooo

I don't know if it is right,Einstein, but now it makes sense to me. asskiss1


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