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Is Brad Pitt beating George at his own game?

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Is Brad Pitt beating George at his own game?

Post by Katiedot on Thu Oct 13 2011, 08:59

Thanks Henway for the link:

From LA Times

Is Brad Pitt beating George Clooney at his own game?

October 12, 2011

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Let's play a Hollywood parlor game. Imagine you were an actor and had all the clout in the world. You could get any movie made, at any (reasonable) budget, with pretty much any director you chose. Let's say you had this power for four years. What would you do? Make a blockbuster? Option your dream book? Work with that brilliant but enigmatic auteur?

Brad Pitt and George Clooney live that parlor game because they're, well, Brad Pitt and George Clooney.

They also each have two movies out this year, both awards contenders, and have generally been throwing their weight around to get all sorts of difficult movies made in the last few years. Never has it been harder to get passion projects through the narrow studio pipeline. And perhaps not for a long time have two leading men had the influence and the desire to make the push.

That they're both playing the game is what they have in common. What they don't have in common is who's winning it: Pitt, by a surprisingly wide margin.

Taking their last half-dozen movies (We won’t include the voice work, and we won’t include Clooney’s “The Descendants,” which has been seen on the festival circuit but hasn’t yet been released), Pitt beats Clooney in almost every category.

That's true by box-office standards (Pitt has outgrossed Clooney $393 million to $251 million, even with specialized projects such as "The Tree of Life" and "The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford" tossed in there).

That's true from a critical one (average Rotten Tomatoes score over those films is 86% to 69% in favor of Pitt).

And that's true from a general, just-take-a-look-at-what-they've-churned-out standpoint.

Arguably, Pitt's three best movies in that span have been “Moneyball,” "The Tree of Life” and “Inglourious Basterds." One is deeply enjoyable, one is deeply ambitious and one is both.

In that same span, Clooney has had "Up in the Air," which certainly rivals those films. And then..."The Ides of March"? "Leatherheads"? "The American”?

In fact, you could argue that Clooney' second best movie in this period, "Burn After Reading," doesn't even rate in Pitt's top five. And Pitt was better than Clooney in "Burn."

Plus Clooney made "The Men Who Stare at Goats," which should knock off a few points right there.

It was all supposed to go down differently. Earlier in their careers, Pitt was the good-looking one, the shallow one, the mimbo who might stumble into a good role but wouldn't know it if it hit him right across his pretty little head. (Watch the Chad Palomino/Pitt character in the Tom DiCillo cult classic "Living in Oblivion" for a sense of his standing with directors early on.)

Clooney, for all his looks, was the cerebral one, the son of a journalist who transitioned from television with enough serious-mindedness and influence to change the game. He made good on that promise with such movies as "Good Night, and Good Luck" and "Michael Clayton.” But that was a pre-“Leatherheads” Clooney, a time before, perhaps, pet interests got in the way of what's interesting.

It's not too late to turn it around and match your "Ocean's" co-star, George. You still have the clout, and the hair. But you like to go your own way. That’s fine, and good. But every once in a while, it may also not be a bad idea to take a look at what that other A-lister is doing.

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Re: Is Brad Pitt beating George at his own game?

Post by fava on Thu Oct 13 2011, 15:27

I think it boils down to the projects George chooses. Some may be a little self-indulgent IMO.

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Re: Is Brad Pitt beating George at his own game?

Post by melbert on Fri Oct 14 2011, 05:16

Brad's in it for the money, George is in it for the game!

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Re: Is Brad Pitt beating George at his own game?

Post by davidarochelle on Fri Oct 14 2011, 06:40

I HATE it when people talk about how successful a movie is by how much it makes. FALSE. Success = $made - cost (and if it's an expensive publicity campaign that needs to be subtracted from the $success) Also is Brad Pitt a director on any of his films? G helps direct films he is acting in, even if he is not credited as the director, because that is what he enjoys. He is very smart to start out directing passion projects rather than blockbusters, even if it means "on paper" his films make less. How about comparing the "kudos" and $$ on international commercials between Brad and G? It is more important to G to be famous world-wide so that he can make an impact. Davida-Rochelle

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Re: Is Brad Pitt beating George at his own game?

Post by Katiedot on Fri Oct 14 2011, 06:45

I think in some ways the article got it right. In both terms of box office AND critical reviews, Brad Pitt has been more successful.

I'm not sure if that means Brad has picked better or just been luckier in his projects.

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Re: Is Brad Pitt beating George at his own game?

Post by it's me on Fri Oct 14 2011, 15:38

the answer is in the time
I guess

in 10/20 yrs
which films will we remember?
quality one
or big blockbuster?

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Re: Is Brad Pitt beating George at his own game?

Post by pattygirl on Fri Oct 14 2011, 16:53

You know what they say, "you can't compare apples and oranges". How can there be a comparison?
Brad is more of a commercial success than George, without a doubt. He doesn't "invest" himself in his movies to the extent that George does. I don't think he spends as much time in his production company office as George. He doesn't direct or write. Don't think he does too much "hands on" producing either.
George did IOM with a $12M budget and came in under budget and finished ahead of schedule. Brad's latest (which he's producing) has a $100M budget which he's already exceeded and is running way behind schedule.
So, to answer the question "Is Brad Pitt beating George at his own game?' THE ANSWER IS A BIG FAT NO[i]!

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Re: Is Brad Pitt beating George at his own game?

Post by dakota007 on Fri Oct 14 2011, 17:07

also Brad works in big movies with big names which will work with him or without him...just like Dicaprio..,George is special actor as Al Pacino said he makes deffirent movies than others..and if you pay much attention to what critics says you will know what i mean..they all said that george was the main great thing about IC,TA,TGG..i think i made my point Smile

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